Munitorum Points UPDATE! Which Factions Will DOMINATE 40K Now? Odyssey40K podcast Ep: 5

[@peterpedersen3753]

You mention that knights and Custode is hard to balance. Most people point to the 2+/4++ being the problem, but how come grey knights aren't in the same boat? They are a 2+ across with a lot of 2+/4++. If Custode didn't exist wouldn't grey knight fill the slot, and if Grey Knights didn't exist wouldn't DA fill it. So people don't like the tanky terminator profile?

[@Odyssey40k]

I think all those factions are on a knifes edge, if they are costed too aggressive, they get spammed and aren't fun to play against. but if they are costed too cautiously, they aren't fun to play with. it's not the durability perse that is the problem, it's how many bodies of that durability you can muster in your list.

[@jfm.d5180]

Anyone here after worlds? Well well welll

[@davidjones4772]

Don’t know how tau go from a sub 50% win rate mid table for event wins to 3rd best faction. Nids have also been on the rise and are now 8th overall for win rate and been taking some events, reckon they could be A tier.

[@Odyssey40k]

yeah I had a practice gsme against crusher since recording and they are quite strong I think. might have to do a recap 1 month in and see how close the list was.

[@seththemaddok8750]

If orks arent top dog by the end of this video I am going to have to get vengeance the next time I see Hayden. Just Hayden though

[@runeh3022]

I think youre under.estimating the potency granted by 3 of the Ultramarines characters in this update tbh. Not saying they're A tier, but I'd argue a C tier for "generic" SM as a whole based on Ultramarines alone.

[@Odyssey40k]

Absolutely could be the case. UM Vanguard looks like it could be making a resurgence, as well as Gladius with roboute guillaman.

[@druwhite1388]

Give Codex marines reroll wounds and different points than the rest of the codex complaints

[@Odyssey40k]

Yeah, old oath might be too much, but I'm ready for it! bring on vanilla marines Meta!

[@runeh3022]

I hope they instead does something like "I Epic Character X is your Warlord and all other Epic characters in the army have the same chapter keyword, then you get army benefit Y".

[@Odyssey40k]

@@runeh3022 What about getting point reductions on the specific chapter units? White scars get mobile elements cheaper, Ravenguard get Phobos for cheaper? Seems elegant and easily re-balanced if points are too cheap?

[@runeh3022]

@@Odyssey40k personalu I'd rather see some units gain some value for some chapters, rather than a decrease in points. Like White Scars taking someMounted units as Battleline for example. This would make the codex comliant chapters more unique and interesting, beyond just saving some points somewhere.