Ironically none of the reviewers mentioned the true scale of the safety hazard and cleaning requirements to have one of these. In previous work Ive seen sls printer areas and even with "turnkey" million dollar systems with dust extractors and downdraft tables and cleaning staff you can still find a thin film of powder always that you just keep cleaning off constantly.

You have to remember micronics wants to sell as many as possible so... Safety who cares about sufficient local exhaust. Also they gave all the KZbinrs kn95 masks that likely are not fit tested so they all got a bit of cancer dust that will be in all their studios long term since every sifter bin leaked basically. If I was a KZbinr that trusted their instructions and read about the actual hazards I would actually take them to small claims court.

They probably used a different bin and called that "tested"

The mfg is still downplaying the safety and did admit to asking for a delay and then lying on why they did that. They are being unethical people will get lung cancer from this it's insane. All the reviewers got the same kn95 looking mask yet now they say n95. And their engineering controls and fume extractor are woefully janky.

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Micronics is very unprofessional, they need a PR team not the founder on screen talking about this

@@Cosmicfude bro what? you dont need a pr team, especially not for a startup. hearing things from the founder is way more professional than having someone else deal with your problems

That is insane the printer didn't work out of the box the safety hazards are still being downplayed people are literally going to get lung cancer from this laizefair attitude the mfg is doing the bare minimum in their minds which is way below actual safety.

I mean he probably didn't want to post private communications. However it seems that the Micronics guys had their feelings hurt and it shows in their communication. They are a company and they need to act professionally. My issue is that just because you worked real hard on a project for years doesn't mean that someone who had issues with your product, means their opinion is invalid because of it. Micronics needs to hire a PR team and learn to correctly address problems when they arise. Hell they didn't even address Scotty's issues until the end of the video. I get it it's only a couple of people working on this project but you can't let personal feelings get in the way when you represent a company that is trying to bring a product to market. Also in the screenshot I saw on their video are not professional at all, and asking a reviewer to delay a "bad" review is always going to look bad on the company IMO.

He does well on drama. I've noticed that about older videos.

The mfg is being non transparent they say the powder can't explode or catch fire and you read formlabs sls printer which uses essentially the same powder and they have a totally integrated cleaning station and still say a fire or explosion can occur if you don't follow the extremely detailed documentation properly. Miconics doesn't seem to think it's even dangerous in any way.

@@avaviel true.. this is the only reason I watched the video, to see if the accusations where real.. and look at us now.. engaging! praise the algorithm!!

"They are a company and they need to act professionally." They are also, 2 guys. 2 very real and briliant guys doing their best. at their scale, a review like that could kill their whole operation which is directly aimed at making a industry grade quality product for the consumer market at a _consumer market_ price tag. So far, to me it looks they did all they could to fix the problems caused by shipping and got a killing bad review for something that is only tangentially on their control. I hope they get to find a way to inprove their shipping process because the product is good when not damaged!

um... he definitely did a fair review of this machine... you and micronics are too emotional for serious business.

@@TouchofDepth Based

They sent it to him so it was their choice.

The product is dangerous the mfg doesn't make it clear enough that inert powders are still hazardous. People will get lung cancer using this long term it's insanely unethical marketing they are pushing on their KZbin. I think the product is a good idea but they are being very non transparent and are still downplaying safety issues.

Such a way with words.

They have not been. They literally said the powder is safe the fan is ""hepa"" while neglecting the fact it is all very poorly designed for dust containment and people will get lung cancer or give everyone some cancer by trying to wash the parts in water instead of getting a sandblaster.

The micronics product is not safe the dust handling system is beyond jank and will cause lung cancer. Inert powders cause cancer because your body can't digest inert powders. The nylon is also flammable unlike what they claim.

Couldn't agree more. Kickstarter has always been a shithole of products that take decades to come to market.

Scott's concern isn't invalid, he might have approached it with a bit more patience but overall it was a healthy exchange.

@@jamess5872 it seems to me as though he had pre-existing stresses and this unfortunately compounded on top of them - which lead to his misinterpretation of microtronics' intentions

@@jamess5872 That depends on which concern. His concerns regarding the kickstarter were entirely invalid, because he is incorrectly implying that releasing his video after the beginning of the kickstarter would be meaningfully harmful to people backing the project. He also treats the unit he received like it's meant to be a fully complete product when it is very clearly an early pre-production unit meant for testing purposes. Micronics even says in their campaign video that they just finished their R&D phase and are ready to move towards production, which is exactly where reliability or logistics issues like are usually worked out

@@jamess5872 I've just realised that my response from earlier has been removed. It roughly read "it seems as though he had pre-existing stresses which were unfortunately compounded by this - explaining his potential misunderstanding of microtronics' intentions"; the fact that my comment was removed speaks volumes.

Definitely lost some respect for him after watching the response video

I don't think less experienced users dependent on highly polished products are the target market for this printer. Given that it currently has an msrp of over 4k USD, this is very much within the range of prosumers to small businesses. The issues this printer has also aren't all that uncommon for SLS printers that cost more than ten times as much, so people should really be tempering their expectations according to what is standard for SLS, not what they are used to with FDM and Resin. Micronics has said themselves that this isn't supposed to be a bambu you can stick in your bedroom and run next to you. Much like printing with PEEK or carbon fiber, SLS is an industrial process that requires working with hazardous materials. Anyone who buys this printer without aware of this has nobody to blame but themselves for failing to do any research on what they were investing in

Not prepared? The addressed all of it in their most recent video

Theyre a kickstarter... ofcourse theyre not ready. Thats the point of sending test units

It's a beta test. Not released

@@MrSirclint I'm aware.

They actually did. Try watching their response video. Scotty did them dirty and failed to mention they were trying to get him replacement parts and he has since ghosted them.

@@Gearshock obviously not since you made this post.

@@MrSirclint Whatever you have to convince yourself of. idc

I was in your boat when I watched this video, but Micronics has now released a response video addressing this situation and showing conversations that occurred between the two of them. I would recommend watching that and seeing it from their perspective too. I think they are acting appropriately and Scotty was rather unfair to them with in this video.

@@Tynted they did an ok response but they are still being dodgy .. read the whole conversation that they shared, it starts off with them apologizing for getting emotional.. if thats how they handle business, things will not go well

​@@Tyntedthey are openly lying in their response video about factual things like nylon powder is flammable and dust explosion hazard. So they can't be trusted at all. Users will get lung cancer long after they run away into the wind.

You should check out Microns video they made today

​@@semibbcyeah their video just painted them in the let's bend the truth and lie department about powder safety and n95 being overkill. People are going to get lung cancer from this. Micro plastic pollution will jump in waste water from misuse of the powder.

You should check out Microns video they made today

@@semibbc I mean I read their responses to Scotty and it still seems like they were not fully acting professional toward him. I get it they have sunk a lot of time into this project but asking a person who they sent a "beta unit" to test, then asking him to delay a negative review of the unit is always in my eyes a bad look. They seemed very butt hurt still and need to hire a PR team to deal with issues like this. Any company I see that asks a reviewer to delay or postpone a review due to bad feedback will always look bad in my eyes. I'm am glad they are fixing the issues but they didn't even address the "drama" until the end of the video. I still feel that all parties could have handled this better IMO.

Micronics made a response to this video sharing their side of the story, I'd recommend watching that. Scotty was a kinda unfair to them IMO

its obvious its not done... its a kickstarter. The whole point is to get more investments to MAKE it better

Micronics made a response to this video showing their side of the story, I'd recommend watching it. I think Scotty was kinda unfair to them TBH

@@Tynted A video response or a comment? Not sure it will change my mind at all but I will watch/read it through. I have been following the project for a while and still think they are rushing it. They need to be not like everyone else and put out a product that isn’t finished and promised to finish it later. it would be nice for once if somebody would do a polished product that was ready for the market and consumers. I understand there will always be outliers.