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@CatherineBradstreet-um9bq
@CatherineBradstreet-um9bq 3 сағат бұрын
She didn't kill because if u look at the timeline only Celeste died in the house
@dodgingbullets3503
@dodgingbullets3503 16 сағат бұрын
🪔I think NK drugged and killed the girls and CW did the same to SW...jmo
@Dol-pk2nn
@Dol-pk2nn 20 сағат бұрын
Shananne and her babies were murdered mercilessly ! What else do you want from them ?
@CatherineBradstreet-um9bq
@CatherineBradstreet-um9bq Күн бұрын
I think dieter knows
@CatherineBradstreet-um9bq
@CatherineBradstreet-um9bq Күн бұрын
Should have got divorced not very bright she had BPD secondary gain. Wanting to gsin attention by hurting kids she is not very smart
@florida995
@florida995 Күн бұрын
Easily she had a personality disorder. Her texts were horrific.
@TruusvanEs
@TruusvanEs Күн бұрын
That woman terrorised the whole family. Especially the elder child was treated so bad by this evil mother. There is enough evidence of this when you hear her talk and see her act in the videos. No doubt about it. She did everything she could not to spend time or give love to the children. The father didn't do anything to stop it and snapped. I do think that the children were killed by the mother and she did it after he told her he wanted a divorce. Then he killed her. They were both crazy. Poor children.
@nicolerachelle4234
@nicolerachelle4234 Күн бұрын
Rourke will answer to this someday....
@nicolerachelle4234
@nicolerachelle4234 Күн бұрын
I told dr.phil he wasnt a narsisist..he didnt comment back..inwas raised by one.back then we called them assholes.
@nicolerachelle4234
@nicolerachelle4234 Күн бұрын
Autism ,aspergers.. chris refuses to get tested for it. Id say cuz of his guilty feelings about the whole insident
@nicolerachelle4234
@nicolerachelle4234 Күн бұрын
I alqays suspected autism ..aspergers...chris refuses to get teated fkr it...would account for expressionlis ..looking unefected..i believe trauma as well...
@nicolerachelle4234
@nicolerachelle4234 Күн бұрын
Built 2 Doll houses to live in..
@nicolerachelle4234
@nicolerachelle4234 Күн бұрын
Both their mental illness clashed with eachother.
@nicolerachelle4234
@nicolerachelle4234 Күн бұрын
Shannan gas lighted everyone in that house.
@tlajj5
@tlajj5 4 күн бұрын
Her parents coming from another state moving in with them always seemed so odd. Why were they there? The fact she got alerts to every purchase he made is crazy! Literally acting like his mother rather than his wife!
@incaseofrapture6989
@incaseofrapture6989 4 күн бұрын
Actually, dude, we do know who killed the kids because he admitted it. There is also overwhelming evidence . As a mental health professional, I urge you to stay in your lane. I’m sure legal professionals would tell you the same. Just because you have an interest in something doesn’t mean you should be making KZbin videos on it. I do believe she did have a mental health condition, but but your secondhand psycho evaluation is not it. Furthermore, you’re not very articulate, compelling or interesting to listen to. I just think you might want to find another hobby… making content like this is not for everyone. And please, leave “diagnosing” people to the professionals.
@missysmuses
@missysmuses 6 күн бұрын
Yourr diaggnosis is way off. the problem here is that she wasnt aa great salesperson. Sh bought the products using her husbands money. SHe embzzeled it. SHe embezzled money for her first house too, which her dad worked off to save her prom prosecution. She caused her home to go into foreclosure by not paying the mortgage, instead, she bought product to make her appear successful. She was not. SHe was having an affair while on thhoes 'business; trrips. Thhe baaby was a result of that affair . THhis maan would have been her next victim since she was about to get caught hhavaing misused Chris's money. She waaas extremely neglectful to her girls. Chris was the one who gave them love and attention, and food. TTHey were locked down for HOURS every day, not allowed to see each other, play, use the bathroom or eat. Her parents moved in with them to protect her as they did when she embezzelled from the other guy. She was forced to eat those thrive things , one on each arm. Hee didn't eataa or sleep for many hours, then he had NK bewitching him. SHe was into some kind of satanic rituals. She and Jim were 'buddies' in that and brought Chris into it. He was having an affair, but so was shannon. SHe even changed her name so as not to be found by the ones she emzzeledd from. NA was her moms friends who was asked to make sure Chris didn't get the mail whhilee SW was out of town so that CHris couldn't find out about the foreclosure and HOA law suit. She was rejected by here lover because he was married and had two kids at home. Said he was not going to leave his family for her. THis is why she was not feeling well at the last trip. She planned to leave Chris and the girls but that plan faialedd during that trip. ALl of this is based on stories Ive read and fair use is in use here. Please rerdiaagnose based on this new finding of her and CHis. He should be retried. I believe NK was involve din the murdder of the girls but I also believe NA and here son were involveddd. I don't believe NA brought her home that night. THat video of her coming home was not thee video from. that night. SHow me a video from the neighbor where she walked from NAs car to the house as it shows him walking back and forth to/from his truck. THere isn't one. She never for home. I believe one of the girls were murdered at home and placed into the freezer in the basement. I believe they were taken out the back of the house and put into NKs SUV and taken away. I doubt Chris saw them again after that. CHeeck it out. Reevaluate.
@mirapavlovic1960
@mirapavlovic1960 7 күн бұрын
What are you on about....? Chris Watts admitted he killed the two girls,!
@thedadyouneverhadchannel3544
@thedadyouneverhadchannel3544 8 күн бұрын
Excellent. Nice to hear someone using their intellect so little of it around.
@just.joolie
@just.joolie 8 күн бұрын
It would be nice to see snippets of video that support your statements.
@baneoftoilets
@baneoftoilets 9 күн бұрын
I believe Chris was a walking cocktail of codependency, obsession, and lack of identity. His mother was likely controlling and punishing him while he was an introverted child and he grew up being submissive toward controlling women. This may have developed a level of subconscious anger and longing for approval. He was devoted to Shannan because she showed interest in him but later became personal disconnected from her and the child. Shannan may have unknowingly relapsed his toxic sense of boyhood and hatred. Combined with his obsession with a new woman as well as pressure from his family, Chris believed he can reset his life by killing his family, thus not feeling trapped anymore.
@ladadog3977
@ladadog3977 12 күн бұрын
During the pre-confession interview of Chris, it was revealed that Shannan went online at 02:30am to order hair care products, and her credit card was denied. Since she probably had a co-pay due at her appointment, and perhaps a payment to the Primrose Pre-School the next morning, it seems likely that she either confronted Chris, or perhaps he challenged her about finances. This may have opened up the subject of his spending on his mistress. In this case, it may have been a rageful episode, rather than a devious scheme as is generally believed.
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw 12 күн бұрын
@@ladadog3977 Not in Chris’s nature to confront.
@maid_in_cornwall
@maid_in_cornwall 13 күн бұрын
One detail that struck me was the house was pristine apart from the office … I think the lazy dog meal was the reason she got home , tired and feeling unwell and fuming over a $60 meal and the office looked ransacked but they were arguing over the actual paperwork .. maybe Chris found one piece of mail and hunted for more only to discover they were about to face financial ruin and homelessness .. and the house was in his name not hers … I wonder if the office was where the argument started ..
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw 12 күн бұрын
@@maid_in_cornwall Possibly, but the confession story from the initial full confession was emotionally congruent, so I’m inclined to believe it was truthful about the basic what where when how why.
@maid_in_cornwall
@maid_in_cornwall 12 күн бұрын
@@jordanhenshaw I find the initial interviews most interesting because the info presented by family and friends was raw and later interviews would not reflect the flux that appeared to exist between Shanann and Chris . She’s almost become saintly and I’m not hating on her .. just that the many videos , posts , messages and letters contained in the discovery docs indicate she was a challenging character and only surrounded herself with enablers … she reminded me very much of my mother and unless it’s experienced first hand it’s difficult to grasp how exhausting it is to live in someone’s firing line … many of her behaviours seem transparent to me. Wanting photos of the girls when she was away … she didn’t ask the day care for photographic updates , she asked Chris for photos because she wanted to know where he was and how much housework was done and make sure the kiddos stuck to routine … little details that ring alarm bells and to live with that kind of stress and hyper alertness is agony ..
@nancywilson6002
@nancywilson6002 13 күн бұрын
Sorry. I watched your whole program. You just don't like her. Strange indeed. It colors your diagnosis
@christineaudet1307
@christineaudet1307 13 күн бұрын
Its sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that Shanann killed the children because you're a woman hater...
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw 13 күн бұрын
@@christineaudet1307 🚽
@jesuspasamonte9379
@jesuspasamonte9379 16 күн бұрын
Don’t blame the wife. The husband is a monster, period.
@staceyleigh2121
@staceyleigh2121 18 күн бұрын
100 percent Shannan did NOT kill her kids! 100 percent Chris watts DID! 100 percent he is a mental monster to do this!
@GW42329
@GW42329 18 күн бұрын
I’m so glad to a found a number of videos on this topic. I wondered if I was the only one who found SW to be off putting.
@emmywestberry9914
@emmywestberry9914 18 күн бұрын
WOW!!! You are basically blaming the victim! You are a horrible human being
@terilee3662
@terilee3662 20 күн бұрын
I understand the house was in Chris’s name but SW made him sign it over to her in a quick claim deed. If that’s true then the house was hers but the debt belonged to Chris. She could have kicked him out and moved her friends and/or family in and collected child support and alimony to get by until she figured out her next step.
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw 20 күн бұрын
@@terilee3662 A little bit of paragraph break goes a long way.
@deecee901
@deecee901 20 күн бұрын
Oh please........
@courtneyhester9343
@courtneyhester9343 22 күн бұрын
What an idiot,just as crazy as CW I'd hate to be your wife cause you are probably just as dangerous as CW if you believe he is innocent,and that little girlfriend's NK is guilty too it's just a matter of time before he gets tired of sitting in there for life before he squeals on her,I gotta go puke now because it's so sickening for people to talk about the dead in such ways 🤢🤮
@sideshow4212
@sideshow4212 23 күн бұрын
LMFAO Chris Watts? Innocent? That's the hill you're choosing to die on? You are cooked bro😂
@nikkijones8428
@nikkijones8428 24 күн бұрын
This is very interesting and done with Respect… It’s a sensitive subject.. She always said I’m so excited 😬😬in all her opening videos. At times watching CW did not want to be on camera .. you have one in the marriage who’s extremely happy to be on camera daily and one who does not want a thing to do with the camera .. Watching the Santa video was uncomfortable how CW was numb .. not at all being comfortable playing Santa to his kids, but at the same time the kids were not feeling it .. CW says see you next year 😳.. He was programmed in his mind it seemed … The cheating part is a death emotion itself, I’ve been there myself. She was pregnant with emotions and on top of knowing Chris is detaching at the time added emotions of abandonment. Maybe her hoping for a boy would subconsciously keep him happy.. but in reality it did NOT even matter at this point in the relationship.. The video announcing the pregnancy, Chris walking towards her was fake smile STIFF walking to her and his words WOW. He was beyond fake and for a wife to NOT SEE that tells me there is no good bond with this marriage . It was odd for me ..maybe off camera she confronted his actions but to post his behavior so Fake as he said WOW was sad to me ,for the innocent unborn. Chris clearly at that WOW moment was probably saying to himself no way can this be happening with my affair and with expenses out of control … I think he just snapped and unfortunately had he talked or opened up to his family members he could had been given the proper guidance to get a divorce the way it should had been handled.. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@righterreeder
@righterreeder 24 күн бұрын
Chris is an unresponsive sociopath.
@maxinenickolls1065
@maxinenickolls1065 25 күн бұрын
I'm sorry for what I'm about to write but I see a lot of harm coming to her children from both parents imagine if the murders never happened those children had no boundaries and were far to spoilt and mean especially cece she did things to bella that warranted discipline yes they both needed discipline imagine what they would be like with other children they both were being brought up entitled and spoilt with no boundaries cece spitting on her father and smacking his head whilst he's saying stop it no cece shannon is laughing and encouraging her to carry on my dad would smack me if I did that and all that money on private nursery they were behind their speech was bad for their ages especially bella why didn't the nursery push for speech therapy the nursery was lazy quick enough to take the money from the watts but doesn't bother educating them properly those children had real issues and it would have gotten out of hand cece was the favored child she was always wanting what bella chose yet you can see clearly cece should of been disciplined for it eg. The dish incident in the kitchen and bella had that over exaggerated cry to the point she would choke at times clearly both were basically brats who needed boundaries and over spoiled with toys that the watts couldn't really have afforded the little chairs were a whip around from CW work mates SW did believe she was better than anyone else and cleverly manipulative and played the victim even though she caused most of it Chris was being chipped away but killing his family was a big no no he became emotionally messed up a toxic family basically
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw 25 күн бұрын
@@maxinenickolls1065 An occasional paragraph break here and there goes a long way for readability.
@francesmartel7948
@francesmartel7948 25 күн бұрын
I’m not a trained Psychologist but Shannan certainly seemed to be addicted to FaceBook, and a little with “reality”-way too much personal info on the internet. It will sound mean, but when she forces the kid to sing “My Daddy is a Hero” was really corny to me (like she’d lost touch with reality).
@erikmolnar6585
@erikmolnar6585 27 күн бұрын
Instead of taking responsibility for the dx, your gonna take a guess... go
@godsgirl2224
@godsgirl2224 28 күн бұрын
Chris was strung out on high doses of caffeine and other stimulants! And he was a cheating disgusting pig.
@eija8042
@eija8042 28 күн бұрын
Chris had swallow to much thrue the year that he snapped with Shannan. But why go thrue with the innocent kids?? Its a tragic...
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw 28 күн бұрын
He didn't kill his kids.
@taytum22.O
@taytum22.O 21 күн бұрын
@@jordanhenshaw?
@HamzaStallion
@HamzaStallion 29 күн бұрын
She did a live stream boasting about herself saying how she worked her ass off to buy her house to then later sell for a profit, but the fact is she sold it for less than what she paid for it. I do wonder what her friends and family thought of all of this at the time ?
@HamzaStallion
@HamzaStallion 29 күн бұрын
That photo of her and Chris on the plane with the caption saying ‘we love to travel the world’ really bugged me. Why lie like that ? She was on an hour flight, and had never left the country
@BiblePsychology68
@BiblePsychology68 29 күн бұрын
Nichole Kessinger didn't cover for Shan'ann but, she covered for herself and Chris.
@joannecarson7173
@joannecarson7173 29 күн бұрын
Shannann Watts had no "friends." She only had MLM suckers.
@helenallen4825
@helenallen4825 Ай бұрын
If Chris watts was not guilty of killing the children why would he dump their bodies in an oil tank to hide the evidence 🤷‍♀️
@verusi509
@verusi509 Ай бұрын
I dont know about the high emotional intelligence. Watching her videos with kids shows she has no emotional intelligence whatsoever.
@randyjohnson5426
@randyjohnson5426 Ай бұрын
Finally!!! Someone focusing on the narcissistic wife who livestreamed just about every single aspect of their lives for the world to see. Shanann berated her husband on multiple video's and used him as a prop! She never considered his feelings about the whole livestream thing as it was obvious he wasn't pleased to participate in many of the videos.
@AnitaHolland-oz9iq
@AnitaHolland-oz9iq Ай бұрын
There are so many things that are left out when documentaries are made, especially in cases like this. Ive watched every video made about this case and i saw this in Shanann right off the bat. I could see that Chris had been broken down by his wife. He looked uncomfortable in his own home as if he was about to get in trouble like a child. It was obvious that she spoke to him in a negative tone when the cameras werent rolling. I noticed the tone of her voice in a few different videos that was a red flag. Chris was very wrong for doing what he did, but a person can only take so much before they snap. I believe that he suffered 8 years of financial, emotional,mental,and psychological abuse that finally ended in the murder of his wife and children. He snapped and killed his wife then panicked and killed his children. I might catch a lot of flack for saying this but I can totally understand why he was having an affair. Divorcing her would have been a complete nightmare because of the type of person she was. She would have drug him through the mud. after dragging him for the last eight years through the mud. She would have tried to keep him from seeing the kids although he was a great father. She would have been the type that used the children to hang over his head even when it had nothing to do with him being a father. Financial abuse is against the law. Chris was such a docile person that he let her run all over him. After years of this silent abuse, he snapped. He handled himself in the worst way but people need to look at the whole picture. NO ONE deserved to lose their lives. Chris Watts was the very first victim in all of this and thats what people seem to look over .
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw Ай бұрын
In the story you're telling there, it's the controlling wife who "snaps" and does something drastic once she loses control. The abuse victim isn't the one who snaps and kills kids. That's not how that works.
@thedrugthatkilled
@thedrugthatkilled Ай бұрын
This unfortunate man seems to be in love with Chris Watts. Man, he would use you, kill you, and bury you ass-up in a shallow grave, why are you defending him?
@leannd9072
@leannd9072 Ай бұрын
I couldn't finish watching your video for several reasons. The title, for one, seems to vilify the victim. Many men are in controlling relationships with assertive or "bossy" wives, yet they don't murder their families. By most accounts Shannan was bossy, even controlling but very assertive, labelling her as a narcissist goes too far. A mentally unstable narcissist doesn't beg their spouse to attend therapy, read self-help books, and genuinely try to improve the relationship. Narcissists simply don’t behave that way. Shannan was who she was before they married; Were his children also "bossy narcissists"? Of course not. You're in no position to diagnose her when you've never had the chance to sit down with her personally. If you're looking to lay blame, perhaps you should also consider Chris's upbringing. He was raised and more heavily influenced by his controlling mother than by his wife. But would it be fair to place the blame on his mother? Was Chris a quiet man who was pushed too far and controlled too much? Possibly. However, it was his affair that altered his behaviour. His mistress knew all about his wife, his children, and his wife’s pregnancy-and she knew that Shannan was unaware of the "separation." Chris changed, not Shannan. The changes we saw in Shannan were those of a wife willing to try therapy, to look within herself-things a narcissist would never do. She was blindsided, and Chris admitted to this. Chris Watts was, by all appearances, a normal person in a functioning society who ultimately annihilated his family. Are we really to believe that this tragedy happened simply because his wife was "bossy"?