Ox should get it

As a Scot, I always liked to see Farrell, Cole and Marler among the enemy ranks. Same with Borthwick - can't you just let him muddle along and provide entertaining rugby... for the rest of us?

You're dreaming if you think he'll make that many changes, especially straight from the A team. He's been coaching the squad for the last month and he'll pick mostly from them - he needs a win!

Sleightholme and Pollock would replace IFB (as hes probably going to be injured again and we know how good he is) and Dombrandt (who is a great player, but Pollock deserves a cap).

Interesting comments of Santiago Gomez Cora about Dupont nomination as 7s player of the year "I don't agree with anything. Now I understand a lot of things that I already suspected, that it was this. The show rules and what France did with Dupont. He played two stages of the World Circuit and one as a substitute. He played 12 minutes in total in Vancouver, and they put him in the ideal team. We were suspicious from there. In Los Angeles, he plays more time and then is named Best Player of the tournament and so on... Then the ideal team and now Best Player of the year. I think it's too much and it's disrespectful. We (the coaches) used to vote. For the past two years, we haven't been voting anymore. Maybe they need to stop asking the coaches, because they might vote for a kid who's not marketable. Maybe France was the organizer of the Olympic tournament, and it suited them to fill the stadium. Who knows what happened there. You can doubt who you like more or less, but I used to vote and today I am not voting."

How about dropping Borthwick?

PSDT for me.

"They look as physical, as athletic as they ever were." Great pharmacy support. Multivitamins and cod liver oil.

I agree re Dombrandt, he’s a great player at Quins but looks some way off being effective at International level.

As a South African - I think Sittiti for sure, but as for player of the year, to close to call between the three South Africans - All 4 nominees deserved

Itoje, needs to be dropped and should have been years ago. He gives away too many penalties and jumps into tackles and made to look stupid by the Bok defenders. He was also less than average in the lineout. There are other locks available that are better - Where is Chissum?

I like the selection But Borthwick will not select half of those and Feyi Webosa is injured. Murley on the bench

Honestly, Ox has been immense in the scrum, far beyond anyone else the last 18 months or so. He's also really worked hard in the other areas of his game. Tackling, carries, support, everything has gone up. It's a real shame that he's not nominated. From the list though, Eben and Sittiti.

I don't see the point of picking Spencer at 31 on the bench against Japan, I think we gain more playing Porter who combines with M. Smith... For me, Dombrandt doesn't come off the bench well but CCS does for Quins... I'd replace Dombrandt & Earl on the bench with CCS & either Pollock or Pearson. Finally, with Furbank at 15, you have cover for 10, so I would replace F. Smith on the bench with either Roebuck or Carpenter and if Lawrence doesn't deliver anything in the first 20 mins, I'd pull him off and replace him with Northmore

Borthwick is generally a conservative man and will be desperate for a win over anything else, so I dont expect a lot of changes other than to put fresh legs in after 3 tough games. I expect Davison, Coles and Hill might see involvement on the bench and possibly Northmore for Slade and Furbank back in.

Kolbe and Du Toit should share it !!!!!

Well Englands confidence is very low at moment they should win but it's not looking good for Borthwick in next year's six nations moral must be low after losing so many test matches as proud Englishman i don't like to see England sink so low 🏉🏉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🌹🧐

I hope we see players like Ted hill, nothmore, murley given a chance to show up. This autumn series just highlights how important Mitchell is and that he's the best scrumhalf England has by a long distance.

Eben and Satiti

So disappointed that the Ox is not there.

If you wanted to try some new players isn't it better to do so against strong teams

I do feel he has to go as he sticks with his favourites and out of form players and he hasn't been picking upcoming talented youngsters and sticking with old guard and he picked mates for coaching team as well. Our defence been shocking we only look good in attack when marcus smith is at his best

Justice 4 Ox 🍰 🍴

PSDT for me.. absolute machine

PSDT no doubt!

South Africans we have so many great players, we lose by default.

Finally. After all the pundits choices I am seeing Eben nominated. No Doubt deserved winner this year.

For me it's Pieter-Steph Du Toit and Wallace Sititi 👍.

I'm going for Etzebeth for POTY. Just a complete freak. Wallace Sititi should be breakthrough player of the year. IFW best of the rest but has missed a little too much rugby to win it, same story with SFM. Exciting times with so many top class young players coming through.

I suspect Borthwick will keep Ford on the bench and George starting, hope I'm wrong, suspect I'm not. Isn't Feyi-Waboso injured still?

My 23 XV: 1. Fin Baxter 2. Theo Dan 3. Dan Cole 4. Itoje (c) 5. Nick Isiekwe 6. Ted Hill 7. Sam Underhill 8. Alex Dombrandt 9. JVP 10. Fin Smith 11. Tom Roebuck 12. Alex Lozowski 13. Ollie Lawrence 14. Ollie Slightholme 15. Freddie Steward 16. J George 17. AOF 18. Trevor Davison 19. Alex Coles 20. Ben Curry 21. Ben Spencer 22. George Ford 23. Tommy Freeman

Ox should hv been there

PSDT deserves it as does Cheslin and Ox Nche, Eben should have won last year if Eben wins it this year it will be for his body of work not his last years contribution

4 very deserving nominees there for 15s player of the year. I think PSDT should take it though. He has truly been immense day in and day out. However, the lack of Ox Nche is truly a travesty. It's an embarrassment. What more can a prop do to earn a nomination? By not even nominating him, they've essentially stated that no prop can ever win the title.

The breakout player of the year is a coin toss between Sacha FM, and Wallace Sititi, with just the tiniest of leans towards the latter. The other two are a notch below, especially Osborne, who is really a token nominee and is the fourth pick by a considerable distance.

Why is Doris in that group? Coz the other 3 have 2 rwc each!!!

Dombrandt just isn't an international player, he's been given a shot and not stepped up

Dupont has no business being nominated for a World Player of the Year in 2024. This is not a popularity contest, or a media hype contest. He hasn’t done enough in 2024 to warrant a PotY nomination. Personally I’d drop Eben (who has been together with Ardie Savea and Antoine Dupont the best rugby player between 2020 and 2023), and would nominate Ox Nche, and Angus Bell. But they will, of course, never be nominated, because World Rugby hates scrums (and therefore hates rugby union, because a scrum is rugby’s most elaborate set-piece) and hates loosehead props. This is no slander, but an empirical fact. The only position not to EVER be nominated for a PotY is a loosehead prop. The winner in my eyes should be a coin toss between Kolbe and du Toit. The other two are just to complete the quartet and are already honored by the nomination.

Irish fan here ox should have been there.

I agree with you on this selection! I think Borthwick will have to make some calls about some senior squad members who aren't up to it. Too old, too tired or not enough hungry or overrated as simple as that! Just imagine if the RFU change their rule of selection you would have two important players plying their trade in France: Jack Willis and Henry Aundell! Willis ahead of Dombrandt and Arundell and Sleightholme ahead of Furbank. By the end of 2025 I would like England to look like the following: Opoku-Fordjour (Baxter), Dan (Oghre), Stuart (Heyes), Hill, Martin, J Willis (CCS), Underhill, T Willis, Mitchell (JVP), M Smith (F Smith), Sleightholme (Ibitoye), Earl, Lawrence, Feyi-Waboso (Roebuck) and Arundell!

My heart wants Eben to win however i think they might go with PSTD or Kolbe

As good as Doris and Etzebeth are, just don’t think they can compete with PSDT and Kolbe this year. I’d probably edge PSDT but happy with either!

I need to flip a coin on this one

Kolbe should be nowhere near it. Has been poor in Japan and has only had a couple of good games internationally this year.

As an Irish fan, still got to go with PSDT and Sittiti in my opinion, but hey what do I know. If eben wins or Cheslin no matter,all great players.

Etzebeth during the rugby championship is only 31...just turned 32...remember we had a world cup player during 2023 wc...Deon Gourie that was...I speak under correction 37...Eben, Stephen and Kolbe will still be around in 2027...Cheslin just turned 31 in October

I think Slightholme might feel a bit hard done by to be dropped after scoring 3 in 2. Would love to see Ibitoye though! Hey Rich, did you hear that England are going to try to get Junior Kopoku back to England by offering him an enhanced player contract? They should offer the same deal to Dom Young to get him into Union - launch him from fullback, all 6ft 7 of him - you get a devastating line breaker with the high ball ability of Steward but with less falling over. While your at it you might as well get Herbie Farnworth too and make him play 12.

Kolbe

ox should be there

You probably put more analysis into this lineup than England will...