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@Halcon_Sierreno 4 сағат бұрын
RAM is the number 1 priority for me on any PC build.
@ProceuTech 4 сағат бұрын
Your GPU, CPU, NVMe SSD, Power Supply, and a variety of other electrical and computational components beg to differ…
@Halcon_Sierreno 4 сағат бұрын
@ProceuTech Nope, I can skimp on all other components EXCEPT RAM.
@stuartthurstan 6 сағат бұрын
8gb isn't even enough for a graphics card. Definitely need 16gb system ram these days if you're running windows 10 or 11 and want to run a variety of software and play games.
@jonathont5570 12 сағат бұрын
Shitty programmers and bloated software is the root cause of this garbage.
@DaAlphaDawg 13 сағат бұрын
I have 8gb of ram and it's not enough.
@godnyx117 17 сағат бұрын
In Gayrece, A580 costs about 203€. The B580 hasn't launched yet (not to my knowledge at least) but it's safe to think that it will be priced around 300€. On Linux (recent benchmarks were made on Phoronix), B580 has a very slight advantage over A580 who, not only performs surprisingly well but, it's even better on Linux than on Losedows (at least on the banchmark that were used). At least for Vulkan on Linux, battlemage sucks hard!
@APerson-14 19 сағат бұрын
tbh i'm gonna go for 64gb anyways i wanna do some stupid stuff that required alot of ram.
@ProceuTech 19 сағат бұрын
Same, those memory leaks aren’t gonna fix themselves
@roqeyt3566 Күн бұрын
I think it should've been phrased the other way around: Did the a750 survive long enough for battlemage to arrive? o7 to the heroes who bought and used alchemist, so that we can see the b580 make a timely entry into the GPU space
@Omarock Күн бұрын
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle: Hold my 100% cpu usage...
@twoperrin Күн бұрын
Lmao the Benchmarks look great to me compared to cards costing 2 - 3x as much, which is ridiculous!!
@flaw885 2 күн бұрын
I'm still rocking a 1060 6g. I just picked up a Titan X pascal for $120. Not new tech but a HUGE jump in power and performance for very little money. I guess sticking with my 1060 for so long has it's advantages.
@Hamentsios10 3 күн бұрын
Credit Card? MW2? Do you mean MW22 ? Theres one MW2 and its released in 2009. The new one is fake.
@ProceuTech 2 күн бұрын
Hard to disagree with MW2 2009
@AntCrazyy 3 күн бұрын
You should redo this video or see if there’s any new improvements, bo6 recommended me to update my driver
@ProceuTech 2 күн бұрын
Been casually retesting on the A770 the past week, but put that on hold as another project has my attention. Will probably get around to it around the new year, giving intel more time
@AntCrazyy 3 күн бұрын
6 days later- yea no it ain’t surviving.
@benrobinson9533 3 күн бұрын
what is the best gpu I can run with the i7 9700k as I am thinking of a new pc if a new Gpu will bottleneck???
@GUCFan 4 күн бұрын
And somehow is the best GPU one can buy if you're building an overkill Windows XP machine that can also serve as a high end Windows 7 machine
@gamerjc3877 4 күн бұрын
I did the math based off Jays 2 cents FPS data on the B580 and here are the results. For the A750 get 33% improvement in 1080P for 32% increase in cost. For 1440P gaming you get 35% improvement. For A770 you get 24% improvement for 9% cost increase in 1080P. In 1440P its a 20% improvement. This puts the A770 in a hard spot even though it has 16GB memory. I can see price cuts coming. These costs are based off the lowest A750 and A770 I could find on Amazon and Newegg.
@ScriptureswithShane 7 күн бұрын
Im rocking a 5700x3d with a 6600. Is the a770 going to be a big upgrade?
@ProceuTech 7 күн бұрын
Could be depending on what you plan to do with it!
@ScriptureswithShane 7 күн бұрын
@ProceuTech just gaming. Currently, it is just 1080p but wanting consistent 80-100+ fps on like ultra settings on about all games. And get into 1440p gaming
@ProceuTech 7 күн бұрын
@Shanes_Stang the A770 would be an upgrade, but a pretty small one to be frank if you’re coming from a base 6600. If you get it for the right price it might be worth looking at!
@kennethwilson8236 7 күн бұрын
no, I would pick up a B580 to replace it. really nice upgrade.
@GameslordXY 8 күн бұрын
Did you call Cyberpunk a Cyberbug in the second half of the video?😂
@mikeclardy5689 9 күн бұрын
i just clicked on this video to answer the question: no. and thats a good thing for once. A series SUCKED. thats why no one uses it or stuck with it. its a sad truth because it otherwise is a decent piece of hardware. Best guess is they needed to prove they could make a gpu before being granted a full wing of people dedicated to it. Thats why alchemist has little to none DX support so older games and software wouldnt run or just wouldnt play nicely. On what it is properly configured to work with, its between a 3060ti-3070+ in performance which is very nice! it just has crap for support. Battlemage is supposed to have a performance uplift AND the proper support from the start. so it should be actually viable for more user-scenarios, while having better and newer features that you wont be able to just ignore. the two leaked lower end cards look like a perfect match for my mobile pc build. when it launches, if its close to what its hyped up to be i'll probably buy one for that very purpose. And as much as i love AMD, i dont wanna see intel fail. last thing we need is only competition between nvidia and AMD. that would be hell. Im hoping they have a reasonably steady launch and their cards come competitively between 4060-4070 in performance but obviously way cheaper. That would help the pc gaming community soooooo much. Gamers just need acess to decent hardware at a reasonable price. they havent had that in like 6 years.
@Alakazam551 9 күн бұрын
B580 is 24% faster than the A750 btw.
@kasadam85 6 күн бұрын
Imagine the B750
@janwitkowsky8787 9 күн бұрын
Just snagged one for about $150. (1100 DKK). My RX6650XT is having VRAM issues and is being RMA'd in a couple of days.
@pbd6488 9 күн бұрын
Alchemist 750/770 GPUS will still be supported with new drivers, XESS 2, XESS frame gen and XESS LL. Why does everyone think they’re just gonna EOL alchemist. No one from Intel has stated this
@kaithong8482 10 күн бұрын
Your opening script is so true and it’s what I always tell ppl when considering Arc. On some UE5 games or dx11 games, they felt terrible most of the time with inconsistent performance in high fidelity areas compared to a more less detailed area.
@mike13foxtrot79 10 күн бұрын
Picked up the A380 for 75 bucks, new built a PC for my Niece, she home schools and mild games. Got the A750 OC 3 fan for 249 in a build that is just stored for now as I upgraded my own desktop before replacing. Grabbed the A580 for 189, just to have a spare GPU for desktop. All from my Local MicroCenter. I don't game on the Desk, I got a separate Gaming rig I built in Feb 2020 in an old Corsair Vengeance case. It has been upgraded and AMD 7500XT 15GB GPU now. The 7500 in the desktop. Have another build in plastic with the AMD 5500XT will probably grab the Battlemage card for that one later.
@ItsThicc 10 күн бұрын
Asking Honda to be a Ferrari is wild. First gen cards from intel are the setup for the B580 and beyond.
@mach389 10 күн бұрын
3:54 lmao.. It sounded like you said 183 fps.. I had to go back and watch because I was just listening. I was gonna say how the f?? Good video tho 👍👍
@ProceuTech 10 күн бұрын
Should’ve said “100 along with 83”
@Funeral_Tango 10 күн бұрын
Remember REBAR is extremely important for Arc cards. I wonder if REBAR will be important for their battlemage cards?
@ProceuTech 10 күн бұрын
Based on what we’ve seen from other techfluencers, it seems like it’s still a big deal with at least the B580. This makes the pcie by 8 connection even more sweat inducing
@TestingWithIntelArcGPU 10 күн бұрын
Yes. ReBar is a must for Arc B580.
@NZRanger 10 күн бұрын
Tom Peterson says Yes - there are some interviews with him out there now
@S1eeperServ1ce 9 күн бұрын
Got no rebar on my ARC770 and I’m using it with a I74970k. No problem and I’ve yet to buy a game that supports/depends upon rebar. Native 1440p space marine 2 60fps with ultra and high settings excluding volumetric which I set to low. Ready or not almost maxed out everything and get 60fps. Goes faster but I locked frames after a few weeks of tweeking. Dakar desert rally runs in high setting with textures maxed and returns 80fps. I’m going to forget about rebar and upgrade motherboard to enable over clocking of cpu and ram.
@kennethwilson8236 7 күн бұрын
all the cards use rebar, even the Nvidia ones
@frankwong9486 10 күн бұрын
Watch whole video only see a750 benchmark and like 10% of video length was actual compare to battlemage (based on spec numbers) Maybe I come back later after you posted new compare / benchmarks of battlemage
@marekpiatek447 10 күн бұрын
i have a750 mine stuggles on train imgetting stutters adn big fps drops but overall i say its okay gpu
@sun29981 10 күн бұрын
They still upgrading driver everyday. You should report your problem to see if it's solved
@PixelatedWolf2077 11 күн бұрын
I hope the B770 comes out. i'd love to buy it as a replacement for my RTX 2080
@MarkHyde 11 күн бұрын
Guines pig approves this message lol :) Yeah I hope Intel are able to manufacture B580s at scale to challenge AMD. Drivers have improved markedly since this and A770 have launched but they both still lag behind newer generation cards from AMD (and ofc NVIDIA) I have a A770 in my media PC here and it is amazing with my emulated Plex server via pass through.
@GroundGame. 11 күн бұрын
Good work as always Proceu! One day I hope to make a novelty build with a 12500 and B580
@paulboyce8537 11 күн бұрын
4k and A770 16gb does have a good playable entry level performance. A750 8gb is not enough for 4k needs more VRAM and clock speed being a bit lower leaves it to 1440p. B580 24% faster than A750. It puts the performance on A770 level with a difference that it can't do 4k. 192 vs 256 bus making the difference. I do have to say that I'm very interested what is the performance difference between PCIe 4.0 (REBAR) vs PCIe 5.0 (direct access). So far INTEL gave PCIe 4.0 results with i9-14900k. Point to make is Arrow Lake architecture seems to be tailor made for the ARC with strong E Cores. Also Z890 board and PCIe 5.0 with direct access to CPU and CUDIMM that is needed for high speed and optimal pairing still seems to be idle and not utilized. Where is B770/B780 that in all INTEL system could challenge 5080? It seems like lost opportunity when there is huge interest on these high tier cards. Looking at the presentation of INTEL for B580 and Peter saying 150 games for XeSS when it is over 200 makes me think these cards were ready at least 6 months ago already. Is this why the CEO "retired"? None of the less I'm happy about XeSS2 and it is backwards compatible for the Alchemist. A770 already had doubled it performance and now add XeSS2 with XeSS FG and XeLL. The performance is doubling again. And what about APO in all INTEL system having a huge potential. And overclocking on top. 2786MHz at 1.16V at 271W. Base is 2100MHz (2400MHz) 225W. I'm running A770/i7-13700k for 4k. It works good on almost everything. Aging like fine wine just getting better and better. There is no driver gaps anymore to AMD/Nvidia. All the problems are the same. There are AMD sponsored games and Nvidia sponsored games and INTEL is doing well on both. Sometimes from launch it might take a week or two to optimize but so does AMD and Nvidia trying to run the competition games. I wish all this driver talk would die down already as it has been good for last year already if not better taking in count the architectural differences.
@kennethwilson8236 7 күн бұрын
all on point, I have the A750 and A770, both on 12600ks with different motherboards (asus and MSI). My A750 lags just due to VRAM at 8GB issues. The A770 for me runs 4k without many issues except for specific games. Starfield is a great example, but most of that was the games problem not the card. Starfield really was not playable until they released a huge patch and has repeatedly needed patches, basically it released in a beta state. Hogwarts legacy is the other game, uses up the vram really quickly on the A750, but no issues on the A770, but I play it at 1440p. Would Like a B770 to replace the A770 and move my A770 to that PC with the A750. Then use the A750 for a 3rd build to mostly be used for a secondary setup used for my server testing. A 265K and a B770 on new build would be optimal for shifting things around.
@paulboyce8537 7 күн бұрын
@@kennethwilson8236 With XeSS2 it might double the performance again. This is wild. A770 has just got stronger in time. It is great to hear from user testimonies that differ from testing that clearly are BIAS. With PCIe 5.0 it might improve again. But yes I'm also waiting for the B770/B780.
@ProceuTech 7 күн бұрын
Took me time to process what you were saying, but I couldn’t agree more with your original comment!
@paulboyce8537 7 күн бұрын
@@ProceuTech With XeSS FG and XeLL that are backwards compatible you get a good boost. REBAR vs PCIe 5.0 direct access also should give a good boost that leads to CUDIMM and Arrow Lake boosting the CPU side speed that has a direct effect to GPU. How much is anyone's guess but it should noticeable. Yet no one is talking about APO in all INTEL system that has a promise for 10-50% gains. There is lot more than is talked about.
@satanhell1917 13 күн бұрын
4 series has frame generation and that's literally a game changer.
@Felix_Chipz-p4r2 14 күн бұрын
I have 8gb of ddr5. Soon im gonna upgrade to 32 gigs
@ieatass4226 14 күн бұрын
Last year I upgraded from Skylake to i7 9700f I found on Facebook marketplace for 90 bucks to pair with my $200 Dell rtx 3060ti (eBay crypto miner even sent me two by mistake). Overall hella cheap upgrade as I got to keep my incompatible skylake h170 motherboard using the electrical tape trick. Only issue is crashing with high fps gaming. So to anyone out there, give it a try.
@Blitzeskopya 14 күн бұрын
I also own an A750. While playing Apex Legends, my FPS values are not the same as in your test. When looking at wide areas (like from the plane), I get 60 FPS. On average, I get 100 FPS. What could be the reason for this? 7500f 1080p test
@ProceuTech 14 күн бұрын
I’m actually working on an A750 update because Apex migrated to DX12. I actually found performance has gotten better on DX12 in testing. What api are you using?
@Blitzeskopya 14 күн бұрын
@ im using DX12 but the FPS values are similar on both DX11 and DX12. While in the plane or looking at wide areas (places with a lot of textures), it drops to 60 FPS.
@patrickc4381 15 күн бұрын
Deciding between a Sparkle a770 or if I should pay $100 more for a asus tuff nvidia 4060ti 8gb. Asking mainly from a gaming performance perspective
@ProceuTech 14 күн бұрын
The 4060ti will perform better in games. Probably worth more but $100 more is really up to whether or not you’re willing to pay that. The base 4060 would out perform the A770 in most titles and that’s about $30 more in a best case scenerio
@patrickc4381 14 күн бұрын
@ got it. Now I’m just picking between the 4060ti 8gb founders edition and the msi ventus 3x 4060ti OC 8gb. I’m not sure if one is better than the other for me. Currently using a 1080ti
@ProceuTech 14 күн бұрын
The ventus will run cooler but both are great choices. I’d personally go with whichever one is cheaper but that’s me
@Sage33444 15 күн бұрын
Can this processor be paired with h310 motherboard 😅
@potatoleon 13 күн бұрын
Yes. Don't worry it fit. Mine using h310m within i7 9700kf
@AlbandAquino 15 күн бұрын
Just got a new PC with an Arc A770. Couldn't be happier. Decent card, nice memory size and fair price. Very happy with it.
@jmanpro2599 16 күн бұрын
8 billion 😭
@mwoods5166 16 күн бұрын
Ive been running 9700k for years now. I have it paired with a 308012gb and it still slaps
@Realmadridnewstt 17 күн бұрын
I am using A770 it's editing god😅
@зиадамини 18 күн бұрын
actually rdr2 doesn't run well on 8gb , it crashes either on launch or in game
@ProceuTech 18 күн бұрын
Should have stated that in the short but didn’t have the time, just showed the numbers from a single benchmark I got to run on it
@зиадамини 17 күн бұрын
@ProceuTech yeah it is an important note tbh . it should count as 0 FPS as far as i am concerned XD . i helped a friend buy a Laptop which had 8GB of single lane Ram and it doesn't launch except if every other application is closed . and still it crashes during gameplay since it require more than 8gb of ram in game . some games even go above 16Gb of ram . maybe it's an idea for future videos 👌🏻
@ProceuTech 17 күн бұрын
Interesting, rdr2 I wouldn’t have expected to act like that because on the Xbox one and ps4 it’s still really playable, and those consoles had 8GB of memory total, with only about 5GB available for games
@зиадамини 17 күн бұрын
@@ProceuTech console optimization is a thing haha
@ProceuTech 17 күн бұрын
True, but the data still has to be loaded and stored somewhere. Console optimization usually nets to defining a set of models, lods, textures, etc as “the game”, where as PC has a bunch more options and bells and whistles. I’m gonna look more into this though!
@nickas222 18 күн бұрын
Testing red dead 2 and cyberpunk LOL those games are older games. Lets test STALKER 2 and then see how that goes
@DrBojanglez105 19 күн бұрын
Just upgraded my i5 8400 to i7 9700k for $110.
@ProceuTech 19 күн бұрын
A decent upgrade since you’ve got the platform already!
@barbarianzg8826 19 күн бұрын
i'm currently using i7 4790 and i'm really happy w itit's really good cpu but i think time has come to upgrade it so i was thinking about i7 11700kf,but before any oc i need to do that someone did w this i7 4790somebody did undervolting it,cause it works overclocked up to 4ghz without problem and iddling at 32c and under load not over 55cseeing your rewiew of i7 11700 makes me think i need to undervolt him tooand due to lower price of this 11th gen gem looks like good deal. What do you think? Manny ppl said to me go for amd but,i love something about Intel that preventing me from shifting.
@ProceuTech 19 күн бұрын
If you’re going to be building a new system and the new parts are available to you, then a Ryzen 5 5600x would provide a similar experience, but not everyone has am4 boards available in their region. If you’ve got a good deal for an 11700k and have everything else (like the motherboard and the ram), then it’s a great chip. But if you need to buy everything still, then I’d just go with the newer parts from AMD or even 12th gen Intel if they are available
@barbarianzg8826 18 күн бұрын
@ProceuTech i7 11700 is the last cpu without e cores,which are mostly uselles and just a bloat..12th gen is more than double the price of 11th gen..amd still looks like a huge uplift from intel,bit why am i forcing my self for intel i really don't know.
@alvaroj9509 21 күн бұрын
What a cool fucking idea and brilliant explanation man. You were clear and thourough. I especially loved your implementation with C++. Really solidifies these concepts so they don't just feel like floating abstractions that you just learn and accept
@ProceuTech 20 күн бұрын
My more recent video has a much better programming tutorial portion if you’re interested!
@arnoldn2017 21 күн бұрын
In think that AVX612 is overrated for floating point ops The code overhead that is required to shuffle data around in the ZMM registers absorbes as lot of the efficiency gain for the actual _mm512 intrinsia. Against an optimized C++ program ai squeeze out 15% speed gain at most writing in assembly, using intrinsics this gain is slightly less
@ProceuTech 20 күн бұрын
It’s very hard to disagree- most compilers are good enough in 2024 to use these intrinsics without needing to use them in your code, they’re a flag you can turn on and off in the config/settings.