Scoring Star Trek SABBATICAL '24
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A Very Tribble Christmas
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Shh! The Mugatu Attack - "Tacet"
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Star Trek Ep 39 CUE: Meet Marlena
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@cornfilledscreamer614
@cornfilledscreamer614 Күн бұрын
Barney Kessel, eh? Cool. Oddly, I'm watching Amok Time for the 3, 392nd time. Heavy reverb on the bass. I honestly figured it was Carol Kaye. I thought that they tended to over-use some of the AT tracks in Season 2. I always thought they had some great clips in Season 1, but they totally abandonded a lot of them for both the second and third seasons, but that's just me. Season 3 didn't have a whole lot to brag on. I've always liked the music in the first season the most. I almost wonder if that might have had a little to do with ST's demise, along with the story lines kind of deteriorating as well. Anyways, thanks for answer my prime question.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 4 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I'm now working on the season three scores, and in final post production now for "The Paradise Syndrome" by Gerald Fried, who also gave us Amok Time. He quotes some memorable passages, and I think it's just terrific music overall. Stay tuned
@DRath-r6s
@DRath-r6s 7 күн бұрын
The overlay with Bing is great. :)
@rafaelvargas3259
@rafaelvargas3259 9 күн бұрын
Love the mash up!!!!
@johnscull7873
@johnscull7873 11 күн бұрын
Great job! Thanks!
@xkot6431
@xkot6431 13 күн бұрын
I just discovered your channel, and am greatly enjoying your insights into the music of Star Trek. I've always loved Mullendore's score for the underrated "Conscience," though I recognize that his style is perhaps a little old fashioned? for the show. One note: Mullendore wrote one of my absolute favorite cues for the series, a library piece titled "Impension," which is basically a minor key treatment of the Trek theme (I know nothing about music; I'm assuming it's a minor key treatment 🙂). It is heard when Kirk and crew are running toward the gunshots Sulu fires in "Shore Leave" and is only heard in the series just this one time. It's great "urgent running music."
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment! Yes, I agree "Impension" is an awesome cue, and amazing it never saw the light of day elsewhere. I recently did a video on the "other" music that wasn't created for a specific episode "Musica Aggiuntiva" (Riley singing "... Kathleen" etc) and I have a couple more ideas, including those great library cues. So .. some day I will be looking into that!
@xkot6431
@xkot6431 10 күн бұрын
@@davidpage9355 I'm slowly making my way through your backlog of videos, savoring each one in chronological order. I know I'll enjoy "Musica Aggiuntiva" when I get there, as I do love the tracks that aren't strictly scoring cues on the ST box set of music that was released 10 or 12 years ago (what an enormous gift to fans that was!). If you haven't already done so, please think about exploring the unused tracks that appear on that set, if you will.
@unumintusDominus
@unumintusDominus 13 күн бұрын
Television shows of the nineteen sixties understood the importance of incidental, background music. Music sets the tone, the pace for the entire epic and, creates a state of apprehension. It grips you, when it is combined with beautiful acting precisely timed for the moment as each scene in this video displays. From Captain Kirk confronting his inner dark self in engineering, to the climax facing the GORN with the makeshift gunpowder cannon, to the crew escaping primates in the Galileo-7 shuttle craft, etc. It's music like this I would listen to as a child while writing and drawing my own comics and science fiction and 'playing Star Trek' with my two brothers. Music can take you back, make a song in your heart to uplift spirits, as so many here already commented! 👍
@johnspooner1403
@johnspooner1403 Ай бұрын
That was great except for the end. Wrong clef symbol.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 Ай бұрын
😄 Dohh!
@3rdalbum
@3rdalbum Ай бұрын
No way Spock plays a 6-string solid body bass. He's more of a 4-string Höfner Violin Bass kind of guy.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 Ай бұрын
Ehh, maybe so. Mid-60's and McCartney on the rise!
@RichardEKranz
@RichardEKranz Ай бұрын
The thing about Moody Blues "Day of Future Past" is that all the orchestral recordings were reported missing. Maybe you can do a review on that album and it's orchestral pieces. Just a suggestion.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 Ай бұрын
When I was just getting to know my scoring platform (MuseScore) back in 2020, at the height of the COVID pandemic when many of us had a lot of time on our hands, I took on scoring "Nights In White Satin" just because I love it, and the richness of the orchestration. That was a significant set of lessons on both how to use the technology, and how to listen and transcribe music. I wasn't aware those original recordings were missing. Interesting. I might take a look at NIWS again.. that was four years ago. I think I've improved since then!
@RichardEKranz
@RichardEKranz Ай бұрын
@@davidpage9355 That is interesting. Well I hope you can lead the way maybe to find out what happened to those tracks. They were composed by (I think) Howard Blake who went on to do Flash Gordon's incidental music from that 1980's movie.
@dressinggownsessions7296
@dressinggownsessions7296 Ай бұрын
Haha, very random! Actually it puts me in mind of something from Fried's most celebrated episode and score, Amok Time. Having finally completed my collection of the soundtrack reissues (yay!), I noticed something in Fried's score for Amok Time that I'd never noticed before. The bass guitar is the instrument that represents Spock as you said in your video for that episode, and what I noticed it, at the start of act 4, right before Kirk & Spock actually start fighting, in the music that sets the scene in preparation, there's a little flourish on the bass guitar that sends out the message, Spock is ready for this!
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 Ай бұрын
Fried wouldn't miss a detail like that!
@dressinggownsessions7296
@dressinggownsessions7296 Ай бұрын
@@davidpage9355 hearing the soundtracks in isolation has been a real eye-opener in how much new stuff I've learned about the music. I've wanted to have this music on CD for over 25yrs, and now I do have it all, it feels weird! (Plus it enabled me to finally identify what all the tracked credits should have been!)
@Xandara
@Xandara Ай бұрын
Hahaha, that's adorable!
@assignmentearth2899
@assignmentearth2899 Ай бұрын
That was the thing about that instrument. I always thought it was capable of more than a harp sound. It's like a synthesizer.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 Ай бұрын
They probably didn't want to over-use it, so it saw limited screen time. When Spock "accompanies" Uhura singing "Where My Heart Is", the audio track has Hammond organ swelling in behind the actual harp part. Just as you're saying, there's more than just a harp/lyre to that instrument. And it's well beyond MIDI too, I would guess..
@RichardEKranz
@RichardEKranz Ай бұрын
All of a sudden Spock starts singing Nights in White Satin.
@historybuff66
@historybuff66 Ай бұрын
“Sub space messages I’ve written….never meaning to send…”
@RichardEKranz
@RichardEKranz Ай бұрын
@@historybuff66 LOL!
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 Ай бұрын
Ha ha! Good one.
@dressinggownsessions7296
@dressinggownsessions7296 Ай бұрын
Spock & McCoy arguing, now that is what I call Moody Blues!
@RichardEKranz
@RichardEKranz Ай бұрын
@@dressinggownsessions7296 which leads to the ultimate slice with Spock saying: "Tell Doctor McCoy, he should have wished me luck."
@pipedreamfretworks
@pipedreamfretworks Ай бұрын
Brahahahahaha
@alanisaac2677
@alanisaac2677 Ай бұрын
😊
@MarvinFalz
@MarvinFalz Ай бұрын
Funny!
@Matthew-pq4sy
@Matthew-pq4sy Ай бұрын
The music in this episode is beautiful.
@DRath-r6s
@DRath-r6s Ай бұрын
Thank you, Mr. Page, for turning the spotlight to this often under-appreciated and great composer.
@mratoz
@mratoz Ай бұрын
Many thanks for this compilation of musical comfort food!
@ewaf88
@ewaf88 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the video, I loved Star Trek when it came to Great Britain in 1969, although I often missed episodes because of choir practice. Over the years, I've come to realise that it was also the music I loved as well. Your technical explanations are excellent, so I have learnt so much
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 Ай бұрын
Really appreciate your comments, thanks. And I missed a lot due to choir practices, too! But eventually, I made it to the UK in summer of '72 as part of the Phoenix (AZ) Boys Choir!
@ewaf88
@ewaf88 Ай бұрын
@davidpage9355 I hope the tour went well. Unfortunately, my voice broke in 1972 and I lost all my range, but that's life. I'm currently working on a large project of my own making, and with regards to the music required, your videos are invaluable.
@ewaf88
@ewaf88 Ай бұрын
A sensational score, one of my favourite scores out of all television, and cinema scores
@ewaf88
@ewaf88 Ай бұрын
This wonderful score also highlights just how poor some of the music on shows like ST: Strange New Worlds is, which sound dull and listless, and arexsimply not efited properly to match the action.
@ewaf88
@ewaf88 Ай бұрын
I wrote that this score resembled Jaws about 14 years ago. I even started editing it into the Jaws finale
@JonathanCarterSchall
@JonathanCarterSchall 2 ай бұрын
Actually, this is not one of my favorite Star Trek scores. Pardon me, for my question is a little off-topic. I prefer the emphasis on simple melodic structure and texture of the first two seasons. Much like the difference between Star Wars A New Hope and the Empire Strikes Back. A New Hope has a smaller orchestra, stronger melodies and rhythm, and the instruments sound close mic’d. Whereas Empire is both more harmonically complex, yet smoother with less texture, and sounds far mic’d. To my ear the first and second season recording quality is more preferable than the third season. Have you done any research on the gear used? To my ear, it seems the first and second seasons were using the same gear, but for the third season one or more things seem to have changed. Was it the recording studio? Microphones? Mixing board? Engineer? Producer? I definitely hear a difference- how about you?
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting observation. Glad you mentioned it, because I hadn't really noticed before. Of course, I'm not privy to the details of room, gear, effects, etc. I believe they were using the same Desilu sound stage as in the first two seasons. I did read that Fred Steiner had made significant changes in orchestra set up for his sessions that would better utilize the room characteristics - the tympani had been set up in a spot where there was high ceiling, but the strings were in an area with a lower ceiling, or something like that. Just by looking he could tell the strings would sound much better where the tympani were, and the tympani would be fine anywhere - maybe even better under the lower ceiling.. that kind of thing, and my ear can really detect a difference in his "sound". As far as season three specifically all I can suggest is that budget was a major factor across the board, and perhaps this presented some issues relating to poorer sound quality. I may come across something more firm.. and will let you know! Thanks
@rmccombs66
@rmccombs66 2 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your channel. I'm not a musician but can read music. I just found your channel a few weeks ago. I have wondered what it would have been like to be in the studio when they record the music and this give me an idea how it would have been.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Cool! Glad you found it. Thanks! I have been in many recording situations, but none like what these cats did. Just walk in, sight unseen, and play the music which, in most cases, was quite complex. Just amazing musicianship! Appreciate the comment. 🖖
@raymondregis6219
@raymondregis6219 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this series. It strikes such a deep emotional place as I was such a trekkie for so many years.
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 ай бұрын
Ruth seemed a little mature. I just learned the actress Shirley Bonne who played Ruth was 32 to William Shatner's 35 in 1966. So if she hadn't aged in 15 years, as Kirk claimed, then Kirk at 20 was having a relationship with a 32-year-old. Some people interpreted his stunned disbelief to the character having died, though back on Earth she'd be 47, which could explain it. I guess she's from whom he learned poetry, romance and other things. I loved the theme "Ruth" used when Mr. Spock breaks up with Leila in "This Side of Paradise." She said they couldn't have anything together six years ago on Earth or anywhere. The following season we would learn Vulcans go into Pon Farr every seven years, so that would also line up with his time on Earth with Leila. What's also interesting is the "Ruth" theme seems to change after 50 seconds (where your presentation ends and "Shore Leave" cuts to commercial) to something a little different in "This Side of Paradise" before returning to the former at the 2 minute mark. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ61p6GsicyGbbc
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Very thoughtful. Hmm ... I always took that the person representing Ruth, or indeed Finnegan, were not actually the real Ruth or Finnegan. Rather, these had been manufactured by the planet, as the Black Knight had been. This would explain - in the case of Ruth and Finnegan - why they weren't any older. Seems to me, anyway. But Leila and Spock - that's the real deal!
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 ай бұрын
@@davidpage9355 Yes. But Kirk didn't know they were robots.
@Ubik1999
@Ubik1999 2 ай бұрын
Outstanding and informative video! Thank you so much for the care and effort you put into this. (P.S. I wonder if you have heard the Tony Bremner recording done in the late 80s? I thought it was very well done.)
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
I have not heard it. True confession - your mention is the first I've heard of Mr. Bremner. Will have to check him out! Thank you.
@CaptainHarris-ip2kg
@CaptainHarris-ip2kg 2 ай бұрын
Two quick facts; 1) the Sheriff sign is in the Star Trek font ;) 2) sorry, if this has been mentioned, but DeForest Kelly played Doc Holliday in a 65mm western about the OK corral.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Great observation on the sign font. I had to go back and look. The "S" and "H" don't adhere to the slanted cross-member so much, but the rest sure does! Cool. I did a side-by-side collage.. now if I can just figure out how to post a .jpg image : - /
@Marvelous_Oz_Machinima
@Marvelous_Oz_Machinima 2 ай бұрын
Good to have you back! This episode was my first encounter with the tale of Tombstone. Yup, I also thought the real life good guys were the bad guys too!
@historybuff66
@historybuff66 2 ай бұрын
David, your labor of love was, to this crazed TV music fan, a splendid massage for ear and psyche! Very edifying and engrossing commentary here-I thoroughly enjoyed every minute, which flew by as fast as a Melkot clock, by the way… I’m very much looking forward to more learned discourse with your next video focusing on “The Paradise Syndrome”. Any chance you may one day in the future break down the various scores written for “The Twilight Zone” (F. Steiner, Jerry Goldsmith, Bernard Herrmann) and “The Outer Limits” (Dominic Frontiere)?
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Well, I suppose at some point we will exhaust the music from Trek and start to look elsewhere. Those are both very good suggestions 👌🖖
@JonathanCarterSchall
@JonathanCarterSchall 2 ай бұрын
@@davidpage9355-Yes, I’d really appreciate a Bernard Herrmann analysis!
@Ubik1999
@Ubik1999 2 ай бұрын
Never in a million years would I have guessed that the Tribble motif was played by trombones! It’s amazing how much there is still to learn from this old series. “Trek” seemed to have brought out a lot of creativity in its composers.
@semuhphor
@semuhphor 2 ай бұрын
hi .. very enjoyable. Nice detective work Mr. Hill. (Get the reference?)
@semuhphor
@semuhphor 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@dennismason3740
@dennismason3740 2 ай бұрын
Huh. Reminds me of the Jaws theme, released 7 years after this episode premiered. What a coincidence.
@pdlagasse
@pdlagasse 2 ай бұрын
I never noticed until now, but when the Earps and Doc Holliday vanish, the horse in the left background remains!
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
The horse was getting double SAG scale... Ha ha!
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 2 ай бұрын
Gene Coon originally wrote this as more of a comedy, which the third season executive producer didn’t much care for in the context of science fiction. (There was a scene where Kirk and Co. attempt to ride horses out of the OK Corral. The horses make it through the Melkotian force field, but not our heroes, leading Spock to point out, logically, that Kirk is not a horse, ergo. . .) Not my favorite show, but it has its own weirdly unique, surreal vibe, that makes it a guilty pleasure.
@williamcurry4868
@williamcurry4868 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I was pleasant pleased to find this video here, and like so many others of yours, this was just a great one to see. Cheers!
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@marscrumbs
@marscrumbs 2 ай бұрын
I once dated Jerry Fielding’s daughter. Knew her for years without knowing her father was a studio composer. Learning that he wrote the Trimble theme was the coolest.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Wow cool story!
@pdlagasse
@pdlagasse 2 ай бұрын
HE’S BAAAACK!!!
@KevinBalch-dt8ot
@KevinBalch-dt8ot 2 ай бұрын
We had music education in primary school. It bored me to death and I had absolutely no interest. After years of instruction, I couldn’t tell a half note from a whole note. But to see how it was used to underscore one of my favorite TOS episodes was fascinating!
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Love it. Makes this all worthwhile. Thank you.
@lukaskendall
@lukaskendall 2 ай бұрын
In cue M22 at 17:50, confirming the celli play B and E in bar 3? Not Bb and Eb per the trombone?
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Ooh you're good! I listened to that over and over, and I truly hear a dissonance in that range. Maybe one of the cellists was a bit sharp on the tremolo, unintentional dissonance, and they let it slide. But that's how I hear it, for sure. Great catch Lukas! Of course I have no way of knowing what was on the real score. But I wouldn't put it past Fielding to do something like that. Thanks for watching.
@lukaskendall
@lukaskendall 2 ай бұрын
@@davidpage9355 Thank you for all your videos. I helped produce the La-La Land CD releases. Truly impressive that you are doing this all by ear. I was able to look at the actual scores at CBS when researching for our album production but didn't have time to do more than check the cue titles and things like that.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
@@lukaskendall You, Neil and Jeff have certainly been a huge help. I couldn't imagine seeing the actuals as a course of study - like, where would you start?? OMG. But I love the challenge and process, and have learned a lot from these guys! Thank you Lukas 🖖It would be fun to compare my stuff to the real thing and see if I'm even close!
@ScottMartin1701
@ScottMartin1701 2 ай бұрын
Have to say, I've always enjoyed Spectre's score, but, as usual, after your video, I respect and marvel at it even more! Can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to The Paradise Syndrome - my single favorite Trek score of any era!
@kylebeatty7643
@kylebeatty7643 2 ай бұрын
My take is that Jerry Fielding got a plum assignment. I think it's pretty generous to call the visual approach stylized. As a kid I found the mileu pretty silly, even now I think it's a bit of a head scratcher, aesthetics wise.
@kylebeatty7643
@kylebeatty7643 2 ай бұрын
The score is front and center, and is carrying a lot of the dramatic load. Of the episodes that involve overpowered aliens, I think this one is the least interesting, mostly because the aliens don't have much of a presence. Anyway, it's better than a fistful of datas!
@kylebeatty7643
@kylebeatty7643 2 ай бұрын
16:03 harmonium, maybe?
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Could be. The credits don't specify accordion or harmonium. But the pianist, John Latimer, could have played either, I suppose.
@gsr4535
@gsr4535 2 ай бұрын
Your history of the OK Corral "incident" is accurate. 👍 Yes, "Spectre" is one of the best of the 3rd season. Has a slight Twilight Zone feel to it.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
Agreed! "A dimension of sight. A dimension of mind." A signpost ahead - "The Tombstone Zone". Ha!
@stephengennarelli1808
@stephengennarelli1808 2 ай бұрын
Thank you David. George Duning was a remarkable composer and he is one of those almost forgotten contributors to "Star Trek" that made it so different and so outstanding.
@markpekrul4393
@markpekrul4393 2 ай бұрын
Excellent - in some ways, Spectre of the gun is one of my favorites, and the music is part of the reason why.
@arlineabdalian8974
@arlineabdalian8974 2 ай бұрын
Many thanks for another brilliant analysis. I envy your command of both music and Star Trek. Looking forward to your next video. Best of health to you and yours.
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
So kind. Many thanks!
@arlineabdalian8974
@arlineabdalian8974 2 ай бұрын
@@davidpage9355 You deserve praise. Many thanks again.
@theartsig
@theartsig 2 ай бұрын
I like your intro. But you don't need the toothpick gag. The pencil on paper is funnier, anyway. 🙃
@davidpage9355
@davidpage9355 2 ай бұрын
LoL - we left out the third option - drawing water out of a pail...