My 2025 F1 Driver Bias
25:01
14 күн бұрын
2024 F1 Driver Ranking
27:13
Ай бұрын
2024 Mid-Season F1 Driver Ranking
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@piastristan
@piastristan Күн бұрын
It would be cool to see a new rivalry for a championship that doesnt involve Max/Lewis.
@garethsmith8855
@garethsmith8855 7 күн бұрын
I think I agree with you that Lando probably wins unless Max has a chance at it, in which case Charles has a shot, but if Max has enough of a chance at it for that I think he probably wins. In descending order of likelihood to win I guess i'd go: Lando, Max, Charles, Lewis, Oscar, George Max will probably win if Lawson is top 5/6 (unless Mclaren are way ahead of the field) But who knows how the cars will turn out. Hope one of the mid/bad teams does surprisingly well.
@formularobyn
@formularobyn 6 күн бұрын
There are so many scenarios!
@MadmonkeyOz
@MadmonkeyOz 8 күн бұрын
What is Newey's actual influence, i.e. will the RB season updates be +/-. McLaren car and development are better than Ferrari, but 16/44 are better drivers, plus Schrödinger's Mercedes. Too many personnel changes (drivers, car specialists) to all teams to figure anything out. Between 4/33/16 for the WDC and 44 if he acclimatises early. 81's form left him late last year, so not sure about season consistency.
@piastristan
@piastristan 14 күн бұрын
1. Piastri 2. Piastri 3. Piastri 4. Piastri 5. Piastri 6. Piastri 7. Piastri 8. Piastri 9. Piastri 10. Piastri 11. Piastri 12. Piastri 13. Piastri 14. Piastri 15. Piastri 16. Piastri 17. Piastri 18. Piastri 19. Everyone else 20. Stroll
@formularobyn
@formularobyn 13 күн бұрын
Valid
@MadmonkeyOz
@MadmonkeyOz 14 күн бұрын
I went for the "Who I like" vibe rather than who would win. Also, why isn't there a "I dislike both" button? At least Lawson and Hadjar are at the bottom of my list. Why is the off-season soooooo slow ☹️
@formularobyn
@formularobyn 13 күн бұрын
I’m so boredddd
@garethsmith8855
@garethsmith8855 15 күн бұрын
My much less knowledgeable weird vibesy list, same bottom 3 though. 1 Nico Hülkenberg (UUULLLKENBERRRG) 2 Max Verstappen 3 Oscar Piastri 4 Fernando Alonso 5 Charles Leclerc 6 Yuki Tsunoda 7 Lando Norris 8 Gabriel Bortoleto (I like the surname) 9 Lewis Hamilton 10 Liam Lawson 11 Jack Doohan 12 Carlos Sainz 13 Oliver Bearman 14 Alex Albon 15 Kimi Antonelli 16 Pierre Gasly (biased against 2023 alpine drivers because my coworker friend left then to join Alpine!) 17 Esteban Ocon (same) 18 Lance Stroll 19 George Russell 20 Isack Hadjar
@formularobyn
@formularobyn 14 күн бұрын
Iiiiinteresting. What is it about Hulkenberg?
@garethsmith8855
@garethsmith8855 14 күн бұрын
If he (magically) got a podium he would likely drop down. I always think of Danny Ric saying his name like that. Have to root for someone who was (mostly) out of F1 and came back. He has the good grace to be older than me (if I had realised Sainz also was he might have been up slightly). I like that he won Le Mans. I'd rather see lots of people win a championship (lol) over him, but a single race win/podium i'd pick him.
@piastristan
@piastristan 14 күн бұрын
​@garethsmith8855 you forgot about Pierre GASLYYYYYYYYYYYYY
@lindaijland4759
@lindaijland4759 19 күн бұрын
Red flag after Norris en Piastry finished
@robertnowac8094
@robertnowac8094 20 күн бұрын
it's curious that we heared "Poor Lewis" a lot in the 2024 season but rarely a "Poor George". Hmmm, I wonder why that is...?
@Richardtv1968
@Richardtv1968 20 күн бұрын
It wasn’t McLaren’s fault, Lando again decided to come in himself,he was already asking some times for new tyres …… he isn’t able to read the race. Max has much more processing power whilst driving
@atharvsingh1380
@atharvsingh1380 28 күн бұрын
23:16 wasn't pietro fittipaldi the last brazilian to race an f1 car (substitute ik)
@formularobyn
@formularobyn 27 күн бұрын
Oh you're probably right! I forget about him 😅
@ishanrukshan6431
@ishanrukshan6431 Ай бұрын
I mean Charles is better than lando by lot but he is not good compare to max. 😂 I mean if max and Charles have in a championship fight max will destroy Charles just like back in 2022 or even 2019 . Charles can't even compete with max way back in 2018,2019 seasons with faster Farris.
@MadmonkeyOz
@MadmonkeyOz Ай бұрын
I was going to put Max ahead of Charles, but your weakness/mistakes arguments were valid. Ollie is a Standout behind Hulk. I won't hold Brazil against him. Other seasoned drivers crashed too. Hulk ahead of Oscar due to his consistency. Oscar last third of '24 was way off compared to Lando. Kevin ahead of Daniel - he helped Hulk many times. Bottas, I waver between Get Out and Inconsistent. Happy New Year.
@heino7033
@heino7033 Ай бұрын
It's a reasonable tier list and fun listening to your perceptions. A suggestion I'd like to throw in, perhaps an extra catagory: Get in (stay), for drivers that participated in max 25% (6 weekends) in the season. So one can be evaluated on those few performances as in Get out or Get in. The seasons are getting longer and maybe we'll see more stand in talents doing a full weekend. Just a thought 😄
@formularobyn
@formularobyn Ай бұрын
I like that! Usually for my start of year ranking I’ll have a “need to prove something” category so something similar for end of year might work too 🙂
@bjs7442
@bjs7442 Ай бұрын
I actually agreed with almost all your decisions and thats a rare thing for me. It was well considered. The main area of conflict would be Charles, Max, Lando but even though I am a Lando fan all three I believe are unbelievably talented and very fast and its pointless arguing just sit back and enjoy the racing. I dont believe George is at that level yet , well not consistently as he does make mistakes. You mentioned Lando making mistakes at the start I would rather say he is cautious born out of four years of driving a noncompetitive car but earning lots of points. In the last few races of 2024 he had very good starts especially AbuDhabi.
@ishanrukshan6431
@ishanrukshan6431 Ай бұрын
Ahh not really lando had 8 pole potion only converted 2 into wins .that horrible for potential world champion .I don't think he can compete with max if max had a good car
@bjs7442
@bjs7442 Ай бұрын
@@ishanrukshan6431 Charles had three poles and converted just one. George had three and converted one. So Lando is in good company.
@ishanrukshan6431
@ishanrukshan6431 Ай бұрын
@@bjs7442 so you are comparing Charles and George 1/3 to landos 2/8+ fastest car on the weekend. that horrible. you can't compete with max fumbling that hard
@bjs7442
@bjs7442 Ай бұрын
@@ishanrukshan6431 he didnt have the fastest car at the majority of tracks only some. It was track dependent . Which is true of all of the cars. The only person who had a spell of dominance was max at the start of the year.
@ishanrukshan6431
@ishanrukshan6431 Ай бұрын
@@bjs7442 omg plz stop😂 you can't take 8 poles and say lando didn't have fastest car .sure like vages didn't have the fastest but max still finished ahead. Specially race's like sao polo is like embarrassing for lando.
@Leo_nabil
@Leo_nabil Ай бұрын
Really Lecleec better than max? Is not a bit of a fangirl influenced call? 😊
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 Ай бұрын
They are very, very close. Charles made next to no mistakes all year, and was more consistent. Remove the first 5 races where the RB was 2023 dominant, it isnt even a contreversal take
@ishanrukshan6431
@ishanrukshan6431 Ай бұрын
​@@dylanburston7453bro Charles is in the same level as Carlos 😂. Charles had chance to challenge max in 2022 and he fumble hard. Not Charles fan girls think he can compete with Max next championship 😂
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 Ай бұрын
@@ishanrukshan6431 In 2022 he won Bahrain, Australia and Austria. He had his engine blow up TWICE from 20+ second leads in Spain and Baku. He was 30 seconds ahead of the RB in Monaco, and clearly the favourite to win in both Silverstone and Hungary, before strategy errors. The car was good before the summer break, where a technical directive + the lack of upgrades (they only had one major upgrade in 2022) started the RB dominance era, and meant the parkinsons riddled merc neatly caught up. Out of 13 races where the car was competitve, Charles Won/Would have won 8 of them. He went toe to toe with Max in a further 2 . The only races he wasnt a factor was Canada, where he had a engine pen, Imola where he spun, and the race that shall not be named. In 10/13 races where the car was good, he was better, or at least as good as max. And yes, he made mistakes, but less than Max. He spun in Imola , and was extremley unlucky in France (max and Carlos had nearly identical spins in spain, but they got to hit gravel, and recover, not the migrane inducing turbo pad that launches you at a wall like in paul ricard) Charles spun in Imola, Crahsed in France, and cut the chicane in Suzuka. Max spun in Spain and Hungary (won anyway due to Ferrari incompetence) Locked up massivly in singapore, and went wide damaging his floor in silverstone. And, this year, Charles had the best average finishing position post summer break, scored the most points, had the best tyre management on average over the year, and made the least mistakes. If we give Charles 10 points (5 place, his minimim normal finishing position) in the races where the car shat the bed, he is within 40 points of Max in the standings And thats the minimum, in a car that wasnt dominant for 5 races like Maxs was
@ishanrukshan6431
@ishanrukshan6431 Ай бұрын
@@dylanburston7453 are you serious bro even in karting day max beat Charles .I know you talking about consistency but Charles crash a lot in previous years . That's why some people call him Charles latifi for long time .but I give to you this is the best year of his carrier. But you can't compare him with a guy who won his championship with 3 rd fastest car after first 7 races.charles is consistent.but he is not max And please don't make everything" team error , strategy,or favourite to win ,or car was bad, like so many excuses. You didn't even mention technical errors max had beginning of the 2022 season. Charles Leclerc's pole to win percentage in Formula 1 is 19.23%, which is the worst of any driver with 20 or more poles in formula 1 history. Leclerc has 26 pole positions and has won five races, only four of which came from his pole positions. and this is worst than lando. Max Verstappen has an 80% pole to win ratio in Formula 1 Are you sure Charles can compete with Max
@Bassie1977
@Bassie1977 Ай бұрын
Max showed only weakness in Hungary. This was the only race where Max should have finished higher (3rd) but due to bad strategy and his own mistakes he only finished sixth. In AD McLaren was the fatest car, Max was already champion and had nothing to lose. It was Piastri and McLaren that had everything to lose that race. In Mexico it was a calculated battle. If Max had let Lando pass, Lando would probably have won that race. By not letting Lando pass, Max managed to limit his loss despite his rightful pen.
@kwanzafrank2902
@kwanzafrank2902 Ай бұрын
Don't let the recency bias win, the most consistent seasons of all time are Max in 21(top 2 every finish), Max 23 or Schumacher 2002, these are statistically almost unbeatable if it's on consistency
@formularobyn
@formularobyn Ай бұрын
They all also had the best car though by a country mile. The Ferrari was between 1st-4th fastest and Charles still put it top 5 every time (apart from the dip in the middle). I’d be curious to see what he would do if he did have a dominant car.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 Ай бұрын
Charles finished top 5 in all races he finished bar 2. And in those 2, he was sideswiped in t1 in austria, and had a +100 sec strat in silverstone. And whats mad is that hes been on this top 5 run since Belgium 2023
@ishanrukshan6431
@ishanrukshan6431 Ай бұрын
​@@formularobynCharles didn't even win a race in 2023 while his teammate won the only race that max didn't win in 2023
@MadmonkeyOz
@MadmonkeyOz Ай бұрын
Drivers - Ferrari #1 (depends on Lewis), McLaren #2 (Oscar had a big drop off at the end). Max is Toto's white whale and still upset he was a Merc junior and left. Kimi is the surrogate. Yuki being a Honda junior & not RB counted against him, plus Marko talks about his mental issues. Alpha Tauri radio is going to be fire, & I expect Prost/Senna style. RB drivers recruiting has been in panic mode since Ricciardo left 2018. With 6 rookies it's hard to gauge rankings. You have good drivers in bad cars and inexperienced drivers in good cars. IMO Haas have a good pairing & their car could improve even more.
@darraghroche4913
@darraghroche4913 Ай бұрын
Lindblad will replace Yuki for 2026 imo.
@darraghroche4913
@darraghroche4913 Ай бұрын
Marko was the one who vouced for Yuki, Horner hates him for some reason probably because he's from Asia.
@gabemc9762
@gabemc9762 Ай бұрын
Oliver Bearman did in fact race 3 times this year as a substitute driver once for Ferrari and twice for Haas, Carlos had Appendicitis in Saudi Arabia, then Kevin got a race ban for Azerbaijan and then had Food Poisoning in Brazil
@ssadonnelly
@ssadonnelly Ай бұрын
I think Mercedes are making a mistake that I hope I am proved wrong about namely Kimi Antonelli. I think part of Toto's decision making is heart ruling head. Firstly he does not want to miss out on another potential Verstapoen again. Secondly it's a ****ing contest with Fred Vasseur "we poached all your key people well we have a young Italian " Next year looking forward to the 2026 rule changes the budget will be under pressure and there will be little room for lots of expensive carbon fibre based learning. In F2 I saw islands of special in a vast sea of not very special at all. (Mind you prema were not big shakes this year) He does seem a very level headed young guy who is mature beyond his years but I am really worried they are bringing him on too quickly
@formularobyn
@formularobyn Ай бұрын
They are going to have to be as patient with him as Red Bull were with max, but it’s going to be tough doing it at the big team… I think Williams would have been a better spot for him but I’m glad that Vowles is separating them from Merc
@Maglin21
@Maglin21 Ай бұрын
Yeah qualifying is alaways close here 0.03 is like 1 tenth around here The only reason it's exciting it's because it's close, but you know it's normal for this track , so the exciting ends there
@MadmonkeyOz
@MadmonkeyOz Ай бұрын
A unhinged reaction for an unhinged season. We all underestimated Ayao's Haas, better than AM & Alpine; Ferrari's Spain update cost the team any chance of the WDC & WCC; Merc & Red Bull teams made too many mistakes especially strategy. I think your driver/constructors predictions weren't too bad given unforeseen stuff. You should have "first driver to be sacked." RB with Draco Malfoy, Yuki, Isack, Cryptkeeper will be interesting in 25.🎄🦘 Congrats on getting 1K subscribers before the end of 2024
@ssadonnelly
@ssadonnelly Ай бұрын
The "unpodiumable" Nico Hulkenberg :)
@justsomenormalgirlwithanorm
@justsomenormalgirlwithanorm Ай бұрын
22:06 That is actually Lewis his worst championship finish he has had in F1. The worst before this year, was 2022 (6th) and 2009/2011 (5th)
@nixxol
@nixxol Ай бұрын
Yep im in
@kyroseven
@kyroseven Ай бұрын
Your predictions were honestly good for the drivers, Ricciardo hopium and Haas low expectations let you down a bit lol.
@MadmonkeyOz
@MadmonkeyOz Ай бұрын
Hey Robyn, thanks again for another year of insight, swearing, and sarcasm. I hope you reach 1K soon. This has been one of the better seasons on track and crazy off. Danny's curse continued to the end. Feel the same about Kiwi Draco Malfoy and Hadjar, and Yuki got shafted. Charles 1st lap was one of the best. Ayao made me like Haas since Romain 😊
@formularobyn
@formularobyn Ай бұрын
Gotta keep bringing the popcorn to Red Bull’s downfall
@T0mPickles
@T0mPickles Ай бұрын
Looks like I missed this season, but love your vibe! Can't wait for next season!! PAPAYA ON TOP!
@David_C_83
@David_C_83 Ай бұрын
Yup, another anticlimatic finale, I accidentally slept through the first half and turns out I didn't miss a whole lot aside lap 1. 😅As for tv commentary, I think all channels have a bias in some form or another. Next year, aside for some improvements, it should be more of the same so I definitely see the same battles between McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes, and Red Bull depending on the tracks and who will come on top might simply depend on those random opportunities. I can see Red Bull mainly concentrating on 2026 because of all the changes and them probably not being in contention. McLaren and Ferrari might be the ones to battle for the top spot, I'm not sure Mercedes has had enough consistency at the top to be there, similar to Red Bull.
@heino7033
@heino7033 Ай бұрын
Thanks Robyn for another season, keep it up. I enjoy the content, your insight and you seem to be more comfortable and relaxed. And F1 TV commentary for sure! Here's to a bonkers 2025 🥂
@AajasAhmed
@AajasAhmed Ай бұрын
Really love your reaction videos ❤, you deserves a lot more subscribers. Hope you'll continue to post reaction videos
@AajasAhmed
@AajasAhmed Ай бұрын
Max said : Forza Ferrari 💥💥🎉🎉
@HAYDNBBH
@HAYDNBBH Ай бұрын
The f1 feed is the sky feed from what I can tell there is no difference... I have them. Both up at the same time incase one drops out and other than the voices the pictjre is the same
@este.bahn92
@este.bahn92 Ай бұрын
Daniel is pretty far from geniune for me. I feel, like he feels, that he has to smile all the time... The rizz clouds your judgement!
@formularobyn
@formularobyn Ай бұрын
That's fair and I agree to an extent. My point is more that his media persona matches who he actually is more than for some other people.
@MasterCardinho
@MasterCardinho Ай бұрын
It's been nice knowing your channel this season, Robin. Loved your reactions throughout the year! What are your thoughts on the rookies? Specially Gabriel Borboleto since i'm brazilian lol
@formularobyn
@formularobyn Ай бұрын
I love Ollie. Been following him since F3. Kimi I think is really talented but I’m worried they are promoting him too quickly. Jack is such a fun dude, but I’m not sure about his talent level. Isack I’m not a huge fan of. He just seems grumpy all the time whether he is driving or not. Gabi I am super impressed with. He was just really consistent in a way Isack and Paul Aron were not. Glad to have a Brazilian on the grid again.
@MadmonkeyOz
@MadmonkeyOz Ай бұрын
The only reason your video had recording issues was that it saw how boring the race was. If it wasn't for FIA racing direction incompetence, 5000 penalties, Zoints, Max/George beef, beavers, and Daniel voodoo, I would have fallen asleep. I think Max is disingenuous railing at George while wanting Lando penalised. IMO, Dutch are blunt, the British aren't, culture clash. Lando's penalty was justified. Other drivers have got the same penalty in the past like Goatifi and Mazespin. You cannot nuance safety issues in hindsight to downplay the infraction.
@DanHelmlingerMedia
@DanHelmlingerMedia Ай бұрын
The difference in max and George are max on the radio called out lando appealing to the stewards for a penalty, George acted fine about qualifying until they were in the stewards, max was mad about George being two faced not the penalty.
@ssadonnelly
@ssadonnelly Ай бұрын
My comments have been archived for a few weeks lol 1. As Planet F1 said, these days races need a Charlie Whiting more than ever. The lack of professionalism of the FIA/Race Direction is very worrying going forward. Giving the mirror a good staring at and hoping it went away for 4 laps. 2. I am more into bike racing these days, and the main reason is they don't have radios (alas, coming), so we don't get the constant telling tales in class and trying to throw each other under a bus. It's the biggest thing that is putting me off F1 just now.
@formularobyn
@formularobyn Ай бұрын
See I’m opposite to you 😂 Radios are one of the best things about F1 for me. I wish we got them in other sports (you’ll occasionally get the like “miked up moments” but those are heavily edited after the fact and usually not played live)
@MadmonkeyOz
@MadmonkeyOz Ай бұрын
Almost 1K! While I agree Carlos isn't a team player, I don't believe Charles wanted Carlos out. They get on well, but on track is an issue. Ferrari need to go to the next level and if you have a 7x WDC out of contract. The non Sainz penalty was because the pitlane criteria wasn't in the racing director's circuit notes. See what happens when MBS sacks competent people. Also, Daniel's voodoo is going strong.
@MeSUBHASHIS
@MeSUBHASHIS Ай бұрын
GOAT 10 wins 😂
@Richardtv1968
@Richardtv1968 2 ай бұрын
As Adrian Newey said Verstappen has a mental capacity surplus ….. he can drive under pressure and still make the correct tactical decisions, thinking about the best team strategy etc
@Richardtv1968
@Richardtv1968 2 ай бұрын
In the rain the car isn’t that important anymore, it is all driver skills ….. so Verstappen,Ocon, Gasly and Leclerc showed they are great drivers!
@Richardtv1968
@Richardtv1968 2 ай бұрын
Ocon went so fast because of clear sight, the rest had massive sprays
@abdurrehmanali7
@abdurrehmanali7 2 ай бұрын
24:52 Max DEFINITELY deserved it
@mavadelo
@mavadelo 2 ай бұрын
Come on, 35 of you unsubscribed lurkers.. hit that button. It's funny how wthey complain in America about the smell of weed and not in the Netherlands lol
@robvoncken2565
@robvoncken2565 2 ай бұрын
Max just had one thing on his mind Keep lando behind you. the rest could pass
@mavadelo
@mavadelo 2 ай бұрын
Hamilton, Sainz, Leclerc: Thou shalt pass... Norris: THOU SHALT NOT PASS!!!
@robvoncken2565
@robvoncken2565 2 ай бұрын
@@mavadelo Max the Orange lol