Are the current leaderboards cheated? There's a lot of names I don't even recognize from people that don't even stream?
@riboiman40052 ай бұрын
Shit, guess Wizzrobe is beyond computers
@hakesho2 ай бұрын
25:28-25:31 cool slide thing
@succubuscherry88453 ай бұрын
can smashbot run in adventure mode?
@Magikarp-4ever3 ай бұрын
I believed this dude when he said this because client side desync is a bad excuse for saying cheating isn't possible lol
@byoders_3 ай бұрын
he's just really good at doing that trust me guys
@NIGHT-GAURD4 ай бұрын
Dont let hax fine out or he will make a new faulty Mechanic video ( I love hax no hate to him)
@Bailzsz4 ай бұрын
can you post a tut on how to install smash bot?
@Memerath5 ай бұрын
1:33 me when i'm trying to play melee but my pet earthworm keeps having seizures on the analog stick
@kevincho12955 ай бұрын
the year is 20xx
@buttonmash24455 ай бұрын
It’s just a smash BOXX
@madlink34955 ай бұрын
hi, thank-you for this great video! is it possible to script it to play in adventure mode?
@1harlo5 ай бұрын
“Welcome to melee, u should play the game it’s actually a lot of fun” NOT IF UR NEW TO MELEE 💀
@1harlo5 ай бұрын
Alt has millennial verbal humor which I usually don’t like as it gets repetitive fast but alt plz don’t change it works so well w ur personality it’s actually funny and u should make more videos
@robert-zr1kx5 ай бұрын
Do videos like this not help cheaters adjust? I.e., tuning the macro to only give 35-ish inputs VS 60
@fastenysb5 ай бұрын
gurvan qui tape les combos malgré la di de zinzin🤌
@dadadadadada52886 ай бұрын
maybe those kind on speed are achievable on MK without a macro
@dadadadadada52886 ай бұрын
fast osu player can do 30/40 imput s
@michaelstoll61677 ай бұрын
very informative, thank you. some of the code is deprecated but still easy enough to gather through context
@A_K1ra_x7 ай бұрын
I feel like if aMSa went up against this thing, he’d figure it out as he’s the king melee jank
@lounowell41717 ай бұрын
That people are even paranoid of things like this, regardless of whether they are real or not, is a inherent downside of software modding.
@sparkmelee7 ай бұрын
I've noticed that I've been missing dash forwards (walk occurs instead) equally as often as dashbacks on the new UCF, and I have two possible theories -- assuming I'm not crazy. Please at least consider that what I'm saying might be true. 1. With a character like Sheik, because you want to "flick" the stick rather than "holding out" the input when you dashdance in order to perform her foxtrot dashdance without entering run, I've experienced issues that many other players wouldn't have happen to them, and maybe the new UCF has changed this from the previous version in some way, or that the 1.0 "clamping" code has messed with this in some way 2. The 1f buffer for executing a dash out of lag has possibly been removed or compromised in some way. I've been entering walk very often especially when trying to act out of lag, and it's possible that my previous muscle memory is producing different results. I've experienced this dashing issue on Dolphin and CRT with 0.84, and with the input integrity adapter I've ensured that visually my netplay setup's latency is extremely close to that of a CRT setup (within 2ms). I've also used various controllers (PhobGCC, OEM), with different stickbox springs in new-condition stickboxes as well as ensured the health of their potentiometers (for the PhobGCC, replicated the waveforms to that of a healthy OEM), yet still have had issues dashing. Some other various things I've felt have been off: Shielddropping, especially when using the buffer for doing so, seems to cause a spotdodge instead, especially when done out of shieldstun. Several other top players (Zain, Ginger, Krudo) have corroborated this, but obviously it's just our opinion. When trying to shield tilt, I've found that I've been rolling instead. Perhaps the old version of UCF made it easier to do so, and I've developed muscle memory according to that. Even if all of this is placebo and I'm completely wrong about everything, I would say it is extremely unwise and downright rude to enforce and switch to a new software right before the biggest tournament of the year, and have Slippi Dolphin adopt it only 2(?) days before said event. Even at Mango's Genesis bootcamp, all of the setups except the main stream setup were on UCF 0.8, not 0.84. Everyone has been practicing on a different game. Changing the game right before the biggest tournament in the world is extremely rude in my opinion. I know 0.84 was said to have been beta tested by the public at regional events for the past year, but let's be real -- 99% of players would not think to blame the software if they missed a few things. I also am the world's most-traveled Melee player. I went to ~30 tournaments all across the world in 2023, and all of them used UCF 0.8, not 0.84.
@pablopa_SSBM7 ай бұрын
Have you tested all these things in UCF 0.8 using the same setup (same controller, same console, pc, etc)? having said that, I agree that it was whack to have slippi/UCF updated a few days before genesis
@2600AltF47 ай бұрын
Hey Spark! I DM'd you on Twitter. But you can reach me on Discord as well if you prefer. I'd love to dig into it further, but not back and forth on social media :)
@pablopa_SSBM7 ай бұрын
@sparkmelee @2600AltF4 soo...anything new about this?
@BrawlerMKP5 ай бұрын
Something definitely feels off about 0.84 and I don’t like it
@Peikotus917 ай бұрын
Nice vid! Technically, controllers send unsigned bytes for stick values, which are converted to signed ingame. I.e. values from 0 - 255, 128 corresponding to signed 0 ingame (if controller is exactly center calibrated).
@CarloVaccariPlus7 ай бұрын
To be more precise, a barely-missed dashback doesn't give a slow turnaround, it gives a few frames of slow turnaround and then dash. It's harder to see but still very impactful.
@JonnyGamble7 ай бұрын
This is true! Also even in “reubicar Meele, you have two frames to buffer a true 1F-turnaround dashback out of many lag animations such as throws. In vanilla/regular, dashback was inconsistent out of stand and aerial landing lag (with the latter being significant in my opinion).
@JonnyGamble7 ай бұрын
*regular Melee
@monorail08 ай бұрын
All your videos are great :)
@ivymuncher8 ай бұрын
babe wake up new alt f4 video dropped
@Spunney8 ай бұрын
Hey cool video! I'm curious; what cards are those in the background?
@2600AltF48 ай бұрын
Mostly modern decks that are half assembled. And I think one of them is Legacy Hogaak?
@gusgarrison92118 ай бұрын
I appreciate the proof that 0.84 dashbacks are working as intended via the stated definition, but I slightly disagree with your methodology. Imo you should have included a tournament using a prior version of UCF in the testing as an additional (and granted, redundant) control. Additionally, the claim by people seems to be that "0.84 dashbacks are giving slow turnarounds more often than older versions." In my opinion, the best way to falsify this statement would be by comparing the rate of slow turnarounds rather than successful dashbacks. It's possible an older version may have been giving dashbacks when it should have been giving turnarounds. I'd be interested in seeing someone break down how many slow turnarounds happened in this same recent 0.84 major, listing what 3-frame series of analog inputs led to that, searching for those same permutations in an older major, and comparing the outputs. Love the work you do! Stay hydrated!
@2600AltF48 ай бұрын
Alas, there's only so much I can cover before the video becomes an hour long. One thing I considered covering but didn't was the chain of events your inputs take until being consumed by the game. The point there would be that UCF has nothing to do with the creation of the raw inputs, as read by the game. If the allegation is that your RAW inputs are suddenly different, then that really has nothing to do with UCF. Still, it might be interesting to see a slow turn / fast turn ratio across different majors. Perhaps I'll look at it.
@gjisahappytoad94088 ай бұрын
Should have used Melee 1.03 but bunch of sheep flocked together as usual cause haxbad
@leodexe6 ай бұрын
1.03 god, all Hail Hax$
@TylerClibbon8 ай бұрын
we should fix polling instead of changing frame data
@roundupssbm8 ай бұрын
Lmao do you even understand what polling is But sure, I'll bite. How would we fix polling?
@TylerClibbon8 ай бұрын
@@roundupssbm dan salvato found a way to align polling with the frames or something a long time ago but we ended up using a different polling fix for slippi, idk, but its definitely possible
@roundupssbm8 ай бұрын
That's polling drift fix, which is already being used on slippi and slippi nintendont. Doesn't eliminate the problem of polling because it's impossible to circumvent by nature. Polling drift fix =! Unlucky polling on 1f windows
@TylerClibbon8 ай бұрын
@@roundupssbm the version used on slippi is the same one from faster melee years ago, it was chosen to reduce lag but dan salvatos would have fixed the 1f windows afaik
@Fizzi367 ай бұрын
@@TylerClibbon Dan Salvato's fix does nothing about unlucky polling for 1f windows. It's more of a physical phenomenon than a software thing. It's not possible to fix unless you change how certain actions are actually handled in the game.
@ExplodingImplosion8 ай бұрын
I heckin love these vids! They’re always in good faith, super informative, and well put together to where you can learn stuff that goes beyond melee, too!
@xanderkirk78728 ай бұрын
Vanilla is good idk why it gets hate, fucked up
@ExplodingImplosion8 ай бұрын
I thought default was just called vanilla because it’s common… didn’t realize ppl were hating on a solid ass flavor
@vurj8 ай бұрын
Does the physical "wiggle room" of a controller have any impact on the games deadzone? I thought it was purely a mechanical degradation in the stickbox. Isn't the distance from the center, as read by the potentiometers, still the only thing that affects the deadzone? If you used brand new potentiometers with a loose stickbox it would still have no pode and worst vanilla dash back right?
@FishamanP8 ай бұрын
_as read by the potentiometers_ is the key point here. Potentiometers are reading 0 within the entire wiggle zone. It's unintended hardware deadzone. Very few controllers use optical control sticks, but a very notable one that does is the N64 stick. Indeed, a very loose 64 stick flopping around will send input to the game.
@tamaya66808 ай бұрын
sick arasaka shirtt
@MannyDorado8 ай бұрын
Awesome thanks for the video!
@lanielas8 ай бұрын
Betteridge's law of headlines
@Nightcaat8 ай бұрын
Glad there’s no issue 🙏
@TheInfernoJesus8 ай бұрын
Slow turnaround is actually the intended behaviour. 1 frame dashback is the bug so really we arguably should've just removed dashback entirely.
@300PIVOTMASTER8 ай бұрын
troll posting this early eh?
@Cmanorange8 ай бұрын
yes, instead of making the game better we should have made the game worse. you have a career in government my friend
@TheInfernoJesus8 ай бұрын
@@Cmanorange In a lot of ways it would actually make the game better. 1frame dashback is really broken for characters like marth and fox. It would also get rid of tech like dash back out of crouch and smash turnaround bair which are really annoying to execute and very strong.
@vurj8 ай бұрын
what makes you think slow turnaround is intended and 1 frame dashback is the bug? I would argue starting a slow turn around animation (that's also when you tilt the stick slowly) then cancelling it after a few frames into a dash is the more strange and buggy outcome than just dashing backwards on the frame you input it like dashing forward
@LukeTextbook8 ай бұрын
Source? Evidence? etc? You are just guessing about what is a bug and what is intended.
@jtrtx8 ай бұрын
look its cody schwab
@TheHookemhornman8 ай бұрын
“Hit the right button” 😅
@jebusdiabetis9 ай бұрын
First time watching channel, love the lands
@Koamoments9 ай бұрын
ngl the only thing i disagree with the most here is baby, baby is insanely hard to master due to how unique he is, no other character has real ki blasts loop like that unless you count krillin and his bs.
@Samuel_628829 ай бұрын
FRENCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@CountDoucheula9 ай бұрын
*Say the name, cameramonkey...*
@senorbuen09 ай бұрын
Bro that's a cool ecorp shirt AND you look like mr robot
@keceti960610 ай бұрын
the fact that a french person was right keeps me up at night
@TDRR_Gamez10 ай бұрын
1:53 One byte? Don't you mean two?
@marioisawesome821810 ай бұрын
P2 is the big brother
@Bradyy.11 ай бұрын
lmao imagine cheating in a 20 year old game
@ShadenXa11 ай бұрын
Hi I know this is an older video but I don’t understand any code. Could you release a easy start to play melee ai to play against that learns over time