in my opinion 16bit and 24bit , 24bit sounds more clear in the lows less saturated you get more clarity but yea some ppl cant hear a difference

nice to see you back mate!

and how about recording perspective? processing, recording, latency on recording/live monitoring? for enduser it really doesnt matter, but the "other side of sceene"?

I can tell the difference but it is usually when streaming music from apps. Qobuz streaming way better than Tidal or Spotify. But listening from hardware is roughly the same with some exceptions here and there.

I had my cochlea custom plated with 24 kt gold. Best money I ever spent!

...the equivalent of 30 megapixel phones.

24BITMAN😂

Yes mor3 videos like this one.

High resolution must be standard. It does not matter that sound engineer cannot maximize the capability of high resolution recording media. Just like CD audio in the early days that sound engineer did loudness war. Storage is cheap now. With 24 bits and 192 kHz (minimum) it can have lower distortion in high frequency. If you have better media as cheap as the worse media, although you cannot maximize it now, you should use the better. Then ecosystem will learn how to maximize it.

blah blah blah. Music I listen to on KZbin sounds as good as the CD studio album.

24 bit does sound better than 16 bit music. Dont listen to this guy lol.

I have returned many CDs to the shop that to my ears sounded distorted and have never been refused a refund, do retail sold CDs have to be made to some sort of a standard level of sound quality ?

I do agree with the hi res audio labelling marketing Bs since is being slabbed on any equipment to justify a higher price tag. But i do notice that recording in 32 bits or 24 bits 88,2 khz and then down sample it provides a nore smooth recording at lower threshold. Ideally keeping the peaks at around 0.6 instead of trying to max it to 1.0 16 bits 44,1 khz is ideal if you have a prestine recording quality...but if not 24 bits 96 khz can help mitigate the quality and play with filters while recording. Even if a sound card says it can record in 32 bits 192 khz....it's technically impossible to use it's full range, however to that which it can record will be impecable.

Hmmmm.... firstly I am happy to concede that I can't tell the difference between 16 bit and 24 bit. I understand there has been research that shows that SOME people can discern a difference up to just over 19 bit. The only reason for recording in 24 bit would be for archiving purposes. (Who knows what might be possible in the future.) Where I do take issue is with your conclusions about sampling rate. I have taken part in tests where I can discern a difference between a 44.1/48mbps copy and a 96 reasonably (but not absolutely) reliably. I could NOT reliably discern any difference with 192 files. As for the reasons for this - I don't know. Speculation might include: - 1) Sample timing. 2) Effects of filtering. 3) There has been some research to show that although we can't hear a tone above 20khz (14.5khz in my case!!) we can tell when a high frequency tone is present or not present in music - even though we cannot actually hear the tone! My feeling, therefore, is that we should record in 96/24. People should be able to buy in whatever quality suits their needs or the fidelity of their playback system.

As long as everyone understands that Spotify still compresses their music to shit, lol. Pretty much any other streaming service or physical medium is plenty hi-res.

Nicely put!

You said it! Enjoy the music, so many are listening to the equipment, not the music. Thanks for the excellent and simple explanation.

At the moment, I use my Android phone Xiaomi Redmi as a transport by connecting it via USB-type C - type C wire to the new product, the Fiio K11 R2R DAC. I chose a player with bit perfect technology, USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO (UAPP) The player is paid, it is not expensive, about $ 8. The advantage of this player on android is the direct transmission of a digital signal to a USB DAC. Another advantage is that it supports HiRes streaming services Tidal and Qubus. I am very pleased with the sound quality. I recommend.

The only lossless audio which exist truly is raw data, all others aren't really lossless! Furthermore use again said elsewhere professional tool to really understand what your saying! MP3 192 isn't lossless at all, nor 320kpbs sound as good as an original CD! The less harming to audio if i had to choose between Loisy and lossless would be those false lossless format (Flac, etc) Anyway obsolete video, high res isn't distribute in Loisy format...

So wrong as this theoretical explanation sound right! Their are tons of video like this! Well the most funny was that he couldn't find any differences! First lesson: Don't think that theory is exact in practice! Second lesson: Use studio and Professional equipment when trying this kind of video! Third lesson: Don't thing that industry try to trick you every times, invest a lot for building those dac, furthermore democratize high res just for money! Fourth Lesson: Audiophile aren't bad guys, they pushing the limit of casual people like here! Yes high res is and sound better no doubt about this, and this is explainable in the same way he did to demonstrate the contrary! Mush more important it's safer for your ears and brain! My, my, i can't anymore listen to low resolution without having an urge need of real time converting everything to high res before having an headache and i'm not an audiophile, but a professional, with experiences and professional equipment! Don't trust just search youtube for more clever channel The most hilarious was that he admit quantization at lower than 16bit, but magically 16bit which is just 65K, has zero quantization!!! But he is happy with a old dead cd format for every young, pro, audiophile, , when professional try to make dac that could compete with analog standards, everyone going back to analog, even those audiophile which in fact don't know who he refers to, cause at my knowledge, there seeking more master reel copy today, than poor high res which everyone can have just using any ..... ....!

Jokes on you, I managed to score just about in the 5%tile 😂. At any rate, the difference it is small to me, I'm often fine in listening to a 320kbits audio since I normally do other stuff while listening. Only instance where I like to have lossless is the few instances where I only want to enjoy the music and nothing else. It is also probable that in a decade or so I won't be able to tell the difference anymore (and I'm still in my 20s...)

The only advantage I found in using 24 bit files over 16 bit files was listening at lower or higher volumes it maintained the detail in sound better other than that they were nearly similar but some recordings of songs that have a richer instrumentation do benefit with a bit better separation between them but again minuscule differences so at the end of day the biggest advantage is you can listen to music at higher volumes with less distortion

Apparently the FLAC decoder algorithm was seriously considered for building into CD players to double the play time, however because at that stage CD sales were sadly on permanent decline, at the time, it was dropped. Great vid and spot on. Studied Nyquist Theorem. at uni and was demonstrated using 2 points at 20kH showing the need to sample at greater than 40kH in order to reconstrct that frequency. Cheers.

For the record, I only skipped through half of the video, but I think I know where you go wrong, which is why high Res audio DOES make a difference. I agree with everything you said about Nyquist theorem. And you are right that CD quality holds all information. However, in order to reconstruct an analogue signal, the dac will in almost all cases upsample the 44.1khz stream to something much higher. Why does it do this? Because in the process of converting to analogue, noise is created. If you use a higher sampling rate, this noise is further up in the inaudible spectrum, leaving the audible spectrum with less (but never no) noise. Now that we know why a dac upsamples (converting to higher sampling frequency), we can ask the questions: which ways can we upsample and is there a quality difference between these ways? The answers are yes and yes. There are many upsampling techniques and some or easier to compute than others. None are perfect. Typically, if you do the upsampling somewhere else than the dac, the sound gets better, for example your laptop. This is because your laptop has much more computing power and because the noise a cpu will create will not affect the external dac so much. Another way is, you guessed it, using hires audio, which is already a high sampling frequency. So thats the reason why people like hires. Not because there is more information in the audio, but because it saves the dac from having to do upsampling to push the noise from the reconstruction filter into the inaudible spectrum. And that does make an audible difference. For those interested in what this difference sounds like: sounds become a bit more crisp and forward. You hear it mostly in the highs and mids. Besides that, thanks for educating people about the fundamentals of Nyquist theorem 😊

Bravo, excellent explanation, now explain why no one of these crooks from high end hi fi magazines and industry does not use blind tests anymore they will be caught cheating, regards

You should do an updated version of this video.

I found the, Zen dac& Zen can stack, $100.00 A piece it's how you shop. I have the ifi hip dac 2, heard it sounds like the, Zen can??!.

for production, 24 bit has an edge, because you deal with several stems and you should stay away from 0 db to have some headroom. for consumers room treatment and room correction is far more important than counting bits and frequencies on the recording.

Excellent reality check! Recommended. 🙏👍😎 (Sound Engineer😛)

"This is one of those subjects that gets a lot of people foaming at the mouth" I couldn't agree more, mate. FWIW I enjoy them both❤

I was lucky; I purchased a lifetime subscription in 2019 for $499. It has more than paid for itself. It is like marmite; I love it, some people hate it. I have both a Tidal and a Qobuz subscription. Two sources on my HiFi, a Roon Endpoint, a Topping D90LE DAC, and a Pink Triangle Anniversary turntable, the latter sounding a little better with older vinyl.

Back when digital recording was in it's infancy, I remember buying one of the first vinyl albums that was recorded digitally (Ry Cooder Bop 'til You Drop) and was blown away by how much better this record sounded compared to others in my collection.

Could you do an explanation of one of the new microphones that advertise 32bit "floating point" recording....I'm told that the advantage is that you don't have to worry about setting the recording level with this as it somehow keeps the signal from clipping and distorting?

High resolution audio? I have No idea what that is. I know different formats and length. And I can hear if it feels good or bad the sound.

Thanks that was the best explanation on this subject on you tube. I have been confused all my life about the difference between bit depth and sample rate. I ended up here because i was looking for advice on hi res streaming devices so you have also saved me money!

If you want bats to listen to your 96 khz music then 96 khz worth you 😀😁😂

I totally sympathize with your position. I have done the recommended tests and could distinguish the difference, though that was extremely subtle. I have many years of experience with this, however, and coworkers called me the man with golden ears. Thus, I think I am a subtle exception to the rule.

Thank you so much! This was the clearest and most honest explanation I have heard of this matter.

Disagree. CD's are great. still use them. You are trying to use math when math has Nothing to do with human hearing. yes we might be limited to 15 to 20K give or take. but you can hear differences between 44/16 and 24/192 etc its like this. On monitors the human eye "can't see above 30fps. So then why do they make 240Hz monitors. because it is very obviously better than 30 fps. Use math all you want, there is a reason some people think Vinyl sounds better than CD. How does math explain that? People say it has more "air" is has more "depth". Vocals are more present etc etc etc Sorry. But I have seen blind test where the high res files were so immediately identified it wasn't even a blind test really, SOME people can't hear the difference. Many can. Why did they come out with SACD's if they had no sonic improvement over standard Red book? Sorry, not trying to be rude, but new audiophiles getting into the hobby of being an Audiophile, don't need to has a bunch of misinformation out there.

Dsd sounds better than 44.1. If you can’t hear it, it’s either your equipment(speakers or headphones)or your ears. I buy cd’s and copy them to my computer. Using db poweramp. I also do lossless to apple. If play them in my car. I’m good. Do what I do. If you can get your favorite music on dsd. Do so. You can hear the difference.

I personally can hear a big difference in this Hi-Resolution Releases and in the end it comes down to only this question alone, IMHO. Certainly not all of us are able to pick this up but that doesn't disqualify HD-Audio for everybody else.

I used to listen CDs on Technics system and now i listen Spotify 320kpbs, i feel the difference. I’d say it’s more sharp on CD. Maybe Flac is pointless idk.

i would think you get great errors as frequency increases. just capturing the frequency is not enough. you need to capture amplitude. so the higher the sampling rate, the better.

I agree with your opinion, and if I can add some informations, I would say that the timeless are more transparents compared to the S846, there is a bigger difference with balanced cable for the timeless than the S846. And, they are more transparent from the amp/dac than my old beloved s846 that I used for years. Timeless scales better they are insane imho.

What you say is true a poorly recorded cd is going to sound lousy no mater what equipment u use to hear it im an audiophile and i have a highly modified sony stereo equipment and i have some cds that sound awsome and i have some other cds that no matter how much i tweek the equalizer the bass or the speakers i just dont get good sound out of them

Can raspberry Pi be Roon core?

At home I have Roon endpoint devices such as WiiM pro plus or Raspberry Pi but do I need to have another PC turned on? Is there a “web Roon core”? Think about it, many AI services are online, why not Roon? At home I use cds, vinyl, not ripped to hard drives, and on the go dap with downloaded music. So to have an online Roon at home with Qobuz organized makes me more sense than to depend on an always turned on PC.

Suppose you downloaded from web such as Rutracker, YES, Rutracker, files that have metadata but no cover. Can Roon add the right cover art if it is not in the music file?

I don't know at what point in my life I started to listen to "gear" instead of listening to music.

It's all about airspace