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@waltercox3474 19 күн бұрын

Just watched the video, and if you research how Gaston Glock originally designed the magazines for the Glock he designed them not to drop free what changed the design was the Is competition shooters so before knocking the magazines please research how, and why. Think you.

@P3Tactical 15 күн бұрын

Can't really imagine why I would care what Gaston Glock thought but thanks for your input.

@Papidaddyzaddy 2 ай бұрын

What are those magazine holders? Where can i get them?

@1977Yakko 2 ай бұрын

I just got a Glock 47 a couple months ago. Great firearm which came with three 17 rd. mags. From Magpul, I've added ten 17 rd mags and five 21 rd. mags and they run flawlessly in my Glock and my Henry Homesteader PCC. They're generally more affordable and cheaper than factory mags. Also from Magpul, I got five 17 rd mags for my Sig P320 which is a huge cost difference as Sig mag are ridiculously overpriced. Plus multiple mags for my AR15, AKM and my Ruger 308 bolt action which has a Magpul stock (the American Hunter). If they ever make 1911 mags, I'd probably add those for my Kimber Custom, especially if they'd be more affordable and just as reliable as the Wilson Combat mags I got for it.

@Skyfall-sv8df 3 ай бұрын

Good. Video, do you still stand behind what you said in this video?Now that it's a couple years later thanks

@jrodificator1 3 ай бұрын

that's the best looking water bottle I've ever seen

@nmbr2544 5 ай бұрын

I got mine for $635 brand new. Couldn't pass up the opportunity.

@fabriziozdrilich7204 5 ай бұрын

In Italy you have to be willing to spend 3000€ 😅😅😅

@michaelhamby8469 6 ай бұрын

Competition is good for the consumer. Running Pmags for a year now.

@robertoortiz85 6 ай бұрын

I smooth out the outside of the mags with 5000 grip sandpaper then i coat them with dry lube wipe them off they stay smooth smooth

@kauaifishingtales 8 ай бұрын

I shot my first match this past weekend and had tons of fun. I never knew about that classification calculator until this popped up so I used it and with that one classsifier the match had would put me in B class. I’m friggin pumped on that but the competitive nature has me wanting GM haha. Love your other channel but glad I found this one as well 🤙🏽

@benjaminbrewer1504 9 ай бұрын

What kind of mag extension are you running that is compatible with the ZEV mag well? And is the OZ9 compatible with all Glock holsters?

@JustinV911 10 ай бұрын

This aged well

@keithridlen7122 11 ай бұрын

So we're just going to skip over how awesome the magazine pouches are??? I've never seen those, where can I get them?

@P3Tactical 10 ай бұрын

those are from vertx

@Blakehenry11 11 ай бұрын

Beautiful gun, love mine and I have to say the beavertail and grip angle is my favorite part.

@fotofavoloso267 11 ай бұрын

This is the best analysis I have seen to date. Great job!!

@jtonyf4978 Жыл бұрын

Good explanations, discussion, and observations. Two things I often think about… 1 If you shoot a major and there are 3 GMs in the match and they each shoot 90% or better then your match % gets used as part of your classification. So this adds to your classification %. In my opinion it should have more weight since like you said, the classifiers are not real/typical stages. 2 When one signs up for a match they can put in any grade they supposedly have in that division. I know of a few folks who put in one grade lower or put U when signing up for matches so that their grade is less advertised and does not mess with their head as much.

@IkeStarnes40 10 ай бұрын

Their class will get updated by the MD when the scores are posted to USPSA.

@rytacarms Жыл бұрын

almost 2024 and still having issues. just picked up the hyper comp and it wouldn't feed properly... now I have two other zevs that are built by triarc and those have thousands of rounds without issue but at the same time they go through and prep them properly

@allenw969 Жыл бұрын

It is much simpler to open carry.

@Aim2Loose Жыл бұрын

Hey what IWB holster is that you have? And what basepad is that? Share please! Thank you

@edsweeney6843 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Any thoughts on ETS mags vs PMags? FYI, Cain Arms makes a mag sleeve for the 21 round PMag to fill the space in either a G19 or G17/G45. Comes in multiple colors too.

@gregorydamario7977 Жыл бұрын

I know what a Glock is, I don't know what a Zev is. It is not a Glock, but the parts are Glock compatible. I know what that means, but why should I care? It is cut for an R&R. Happy to know that. What's an R&R? And THANK GOD it is a patterned for an R&R and obviously an SRO. What the hell are you talking about hillbilly? Your review sucks. It is incomprehensible. You sound like a fast talking scam artist timeshare salesman. I am sure I could afford to buy 40 or 50 of these should I so desire. But based upon your snake oil sales presentation, I am disinclined to do so. Therefore, either slow down and speak English and explain what you are talking about or at the beginning of your presentation warn gun owners who want your evaluation but are not gun nerds with intimate knowledge of multiple pistol manufacturers and esoteric acronyms, that your video will be worthless as a source of useful information. You seem to know what your are talking about, a master trait of snake oil salesmen, but you lack verifiable communication skills. Therefore, I shall go elsewhere to find out if I want to buy this sucker.

@TheAxe4Ever Жыл бұрын

I get how a beginner can have trouble finding the dot. They still have to develop the fundamentals of the draw and presentation. But I’ve talked to so many guys that claim “they’ve been shooting for decades” with irons, and they can’t seem to find the dot upon presentation. All I can think is they may have been shooting “for decades” with piss poor fundamentals and bad habits. Maybe they were never taught. I literally just started with a red dot after over 4 decades of iron sight shooting. Not even a week on the dot yet. I installed it and took it right to the range to dial it in. I saw the dot right off the bat. I have some clean up work to do with it. But I always see it.

@danielthompson6511 Жыл бұрын

Awesome great build

@murrayjthompson1893 Жыл бұрын

Here is a historical tidbit regarding Glock mags. Originally, Glock produced guns for the military and issued 2 mags with each gun. The mags were polymer and expanded in the mag well by design. The military did not want soldiers to lose the mags. DEA started carrying the Glocks early on with the poly mags. They operate in many overseas countries and may have used the same logic as the military. The FBI rejected Glocks for the agents based partly on the magazines not freely ejecting when empty or full. Glock began to use a metal liner, but the liner still needed to be thick enough to prevent the bulging. Glock increased the thickness of the metal liner and the FBI accepted the Glock for trials. Each gun leaving the gun vault (Bureau or personally owned/Bureau approved) has each mag checked for freely dropping from that gun. The Gun Vault has massive boxes of mags that are used to replace any mag not falling freely from the gun under test. Oddly, the same mag that does not drop freely from one firearm may be acceptable in another gun. I only run factory Glock mags in my DR920P with zero issues. The P-mags may be fine but experience has taught me that Murphy's Law will always prevail at the worst possible moment in time. So, I keep the P-mags just for practice and run Glock factory mags for real situations.

@NineteenEighty-Four 8 ай бұрын

Do you have issues with pmags during practice?

@murrayjthompson1893 8 ай бұрын

Addendum to the original comment - PMags run smoother in my XR920P than Glock mags. No FTF or FTE either mag type, but the PMags drop easier than Glock mags when empty. My PMags are running Apex metal base plates which add more weight to the empty mag.

@Curveball Жыл бұрын

You went from an M&P to a glock? Man, you take training seriously.....going to an inferior pistol to make your training better. lol

@adamzoubi7018 Жыл бұрын

What conceal holster are you wearing? PLEASE !!!

@P3Tactical Жыл бұрын

I assume this was a Phlster floodlight. That and the Tier 1 Concealed MSP are great options for the OZ9!

@adamzoubi7018 Жыл бұрын

@@P3Tactical thank you so much.

@rey830 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget handcuffs. Once a suspect is subdued, or surrenders you need to be able to secure them.

@P3Tactical Жыл бұрын

Check your local laws on that. NC for instance has zero provision for a citizen's arrest under any circumstances.

@seancssu Жыл бұрын

Magpul all day for stockpile and on the range, gonna still carry oem mags 😂

@fotofavoloso267 Жыл бұрын

Glad I found your channel. Subscribed. You make a lot of sense. Would love to hear you talk about what practical means.....and how the sport has pretty much moved away from its origins....IMHO

@P3Tactical Жыл бұрын

Not sure I would agree that it has. Bottom line, this is a game, it will never be a gunfight. Pretending that it is honestly makes it less practical instead of more. Take IDPA as an example, their ruleset is designed to make things as "defensive" as possible, but just results in everybody running around in fishing vests. The bottom line is that the purpose of the game is to test practical shooting SKILLS, not scenarios. Those skills include speed, accuracy, transitions, and movement, and USPSA tests those better than anything else out there.

@robertthomas497 Жыл бұрын

I happened to look at your Carry Optics classifiers and something stood out to me. You have shot a 49 different classifier stages a total of 89 times. 20 times you shot the same classifier a 2nd time. At least 3 times the second time shooting the same classifier was within a month. 11 times you shot the same classifier a 3rd time. 5 times you shot the same classifier a 4th time. 2 times you shot the same classifier a 5th time. 2 times you shot the same classifier a 6th time. Basically almost half the classifiers you shot were duplicated, and half of your best classifiers were shot 2-4 times. You practiced a lot apparently. Early on it appears when you shot the same classifier, your percentage score approximately doubled. Later on your percentage score dropped considerably. My guess is that you were trying to improve early on by "focused effort" (trying to improve while staying within what you felt was your ability level). While later on you were trying to see if you could "burn down" the stage, since you had nothing to lose if you "crashed and burned" as you already had a "solid" score listed. Looking at your percentages from matches that counted as classifiers, you were in the high B to low A class range. Given this covers multiple stages shot, it would seem more accurate of your overall ability than your classifier stage scores alone. That said, the USPSA Classification system seems to be a good benchmark in general. Of course it can be manipulated by individuals in order to effect it's accuracy. As evidenced by "sandbaggers" and "grandbaggers".

@P3Tactical Жыл бұрын

Hey man, not exactly certain what your point is on the repeat classifier stuff. I’m not an MD and have zero control over what stages I shoot, it’s just that there are only so many of them and certain ones tend to be way more popular than others. I do certainly agree that shooting more matches makes it easier to move up if that’s what you’re saying. Couple things on majors. 1. I never shot a major before making M and have only been in the sport for a few years. I certainly still have things to learn about shooting majors but definitely did on the first few. Mainly I was plagued by gear issues on the early ones which majorly impacted scores. But regardless I think your logic might be a little flawed. The classification system does a pretty good of predicting what group you place in but certainly can’t predict what percentage you will shoot. If you think only the top 5% in match points at a major should be GM then CO nats for example would have had only 5 GM’s instead of like 30 if memory serves. At that match I got popper f’d on three separate stages and still placed 86% with the GM’s. My point if somebody shoots 83% at a major but every shooter above them is a GM that isn’t an A-class result, it just means the dude at top had an incredible performance and inflated 100%. My last match NC section I would have won if not for three bad rounds of the factory match ammo I was shooting, but even with 3 malfunctions placed 97% against some solid GM’s.

@robertthomas497 Жыл бұрын

@@P3Tactical it is not meant to be a personal attack, but a comment on practice. As you suggested, it is the responsibility of the MD to decide what classifier stage(s) they setup. The USPSA Classification System works well, but like most any system it can be "gamed" by individuals. This is probably why the terms "Sandbagger", "Paper GM", and "Grandbagger" came about. I have known individuals that would find out what classifier(s) were going to be at matches in order to practice them as much as they could before shooting them at the match. several made GM this way, but often could not come close to that ability level and finishing amongst the C & B class competitors at best. On the other end of the spectrum I have seen individuals intentionally (and a few times admit) that they would shoot poorly on classifiers in order to win first in a lower classifications in level 2 matches. They would (for instance) have a B classification but consistently finish among the M and GM competitors. Basically the classification system is only as good as those who use it.

@redghost1994 Жыл бұрын

Very helpful and to the point. Thank you for the info!! Keep up the great work

@matheoperez6298 Жыл бұрын

Solid vid and info!

@blazability3469 Жыл бұрын

all the ppl that say they ONLY run OEM, are the same ppl who use all sorts of cheap aftermarket base that cause all sorts of problems lol

@rtaggs8178 Жыл бұрын

I'm kind of caught in between. Have a Glock Gen 5 45 and 17 . Had PMAGS in the past and never had problems. Have one gunsmith in the family (Son in Law) and one up and coming in the future (My son ) especially my son preaches to stay with OEM Glock magazines, probably being a car guy I tell him to stick with OEM on cars and trucks.

@denniskettinger9876 Жыл бұрын

Or practice drawing and presentation in completely dark room.

@michaelarmenta8289 Жыл бұрын

I just got one for Christmas, and looking for ideas. Nice set up you have, thanks.

@Kyle_gallegher 2 жыл бұрын

I've stuffed 5.45 in gen m2 or w2 whatever and some emags with no problems and it fed my 5.45 AR no problem, I dont doubt a magpul mag man

@raulhernandez2970 2 жыл бұрын

I use the pmag 21s for my Glocks and they run great not one issue so far thankfully

@BonoMalumSuperate 2 жыл бұрын

I never ever practice catching my empty magazine, because muscle memory will make you do that in a gunfight and get yourself killed

@Vernonu9 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a 12rnd pmag for g26. It was a Jammy Davis Jr. I was hoping to carry that 12rnd mag....

@Hank-ch5qr 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a glock 20, sent it to atei in Michigan for stipling, trigger guard undercut,slide milling and trijicon rnr red dot , put a flat trigger on it. It's never jammed and shits all over that gun

@P3Tactical 2 жыл бұрын

That's so cool! This one shot a 1.33 bill drill (all alpha, 7 yards) at USPSA nationals. What can yours do?

@Hank-ch5qr 2 жыл бұрын

@@P3Tactical so it didn't jam that time?

@P3Tactical 2 жыл бұрын

@@Hank-ch5qr Nah man it got through those 6 rounds no problem. Kinda like the last 20k I put through that gun. It also reminded me a bit of the 30k I've put through my practice gun. It was pretty cool.

@Hank-ch5qr 2 жыл бұрын

@@P3Tactical I hear alot of problems with those guns

@PalmettoPrecision 2 жыл бұрын

@@Hank-ch5qr hear or experience? Any videos?

@Hank-ch5qr 2 жыл бұрын

These guns are not dependable and that is what glocks are known for

@PalmettoPrecision 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of talk for an empty channel 😁 Show us that Glock 20; how about a video of you shooting a bill drill with it? I’ll Venmo you 1000$ if you shoot sub 1.5 clean. Like, ever. 40 years from now.

@Hank-ch5qr 2 жыл бұрын

@@PalmettoPrecision I see alot of videos with people having problems with those guns

@PalmettoPrecision 2 жыл бұрын

@@Hank-ch5qr People are more likely to complain than praise online - 100 to 1 rule brotato chip

@Hank-ch5qr 2 жыл бұрын

@@PalmettoPrecision true

@spencercupit Жыл бұрын

500 rounds so far and 0 issues, so for on my compact combat. Now, building a standard size.

@Adam_B_Shooting 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t treat the Magpul GL9 mags well at all and they have yet to give me any problems

@Erik007 2 жыл бұрын

How about for people that are left-handed?

@mnuncio8793 2 жыл бұрын

Zev and Shadow System use Magpul magazines. After buying a Shadow System and it had them and the owner having a video on why they use them and then being tested. I accepted the magazine myself. And now I have mostly PL9 magazines the 12, 15, 17, 17 - 21 with extension and the 27 rd.

@redeye8526 10 ай бұрын

the feed lips wear down and dont hold the mag open eventually still function 100% just annoying to pull the trigger and hear click on an empty chamber

@mnuncio8793 10 ай бұрын

@@redeye8526 I have never had the issue before but I have been told the lips have spread open on older ones. But have been using them in my duty pistols for years. I don’t mind using them or the oem. But I have used the those ETS ones and that magazine shot my ammo so I know what you mean.

@sydewayzmo3905 2 жыл бұрын

All my P mags for Glock have expanded and no longer drop. I left them loaded and in the heat for a couple hours. Almost $300 of useless mags now.

@Masta_E Жыл бұрын

They are bad mags. All mine have died and I am not some hardcore dude, I shoot twice a month at an indoor range. No reason my GL9s are dying and being unreliable.