It kind of reminds me of training Dolphin's, and Seals, upon doing an act, they get fed a fish.

Unfortunately I still see too many horse trainers on KZbin who use sticks & whips as a punishment tool. Where is the line between negative reinforcement & moving into a positive punishment on quadrant seems lost on many of the trainers.

People and dogs are really good at voice commands. Because of this it is almost impossible for most people to accept that horses are not good at voice commands. I have never seen a horse respond to voice alone in any significant way.

I wish you had shown a horse and rider going through the grid to exhibit your points

I dated a horse girl and the bedroom routine was wierd, cluck cluck, kiss kiss then easy followed by stay, then off we would go again. and she always wanted me to wear a metal bar in my mouth. wierd girl.

Brilliant video thankyou x

What about the teeth 😢

Omg that’s so handy to know the optimum rhythm for walk in a test!!! I never knew this and really like numbers, so THANKS for the app and Bpm tip!!

I miss my mom Bobbie. She used a similar whip on me butt naked for two hours running laps in my room. Was 2-5 CAVS guide on carrier/ fastest runner. 11:30 2 mile. Miss mom. Face, legs, balls, stomach, etc.

Fabulous video. Genius and well explained. Thank you❤

We had a Quarter horse who used to crip a lot. He seemed to colic a bit more easily than the other horses did, so we kept a close eye on him. Come to think of it, he was a more high-strung creature.

Ok exelente...y las medidas, las distancias???

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Andrew McLean, thank you for sharing your amazing knowledge with us, and for improving equine welfare. Dear Corina below, I respectfully think that you have slightly misinterpreted what Dr McLean says and it is just a semantic or language issue that prevents you from agreeing. In the video he says that horses have a wonderful memory, probably as good as an elephant, but that their ability to rationalise/ reason is not as well developed as in humans due to the fact that the horse has no prefrontal cortex. Janet Jones Phd, also explains very well the difference between the horse brain and the human brain in her book that makes the comparison. In my humble opinion I don’t actually think that either would strongly disagree with what you are saying to some extent. As an example though from another perspective, you sometimes cannot reason with a child or teenager either as their prefrontal cortex is not yet fully developed, and this is something I think we can all agree on. Horses have survived by bypassing our methods of reasoning and going straight into flight mode. They have a very sensitive and large amygdala and this combined with no prefrontal cortex “ screams” just run first, do not stop to reason. Their strong memory as you mention, also plays a role in their survival as a species. I think one of the most dangerous misconceptions in the equine industry, is that horses are capable of plotting revenge etc, and that we as humans, unless educated in understanding how the horses brain works, believe it works just like ours.

Thank you for this video is very useful

I found this so helpful. Thank you

Thanks Manuela Chiara will be counting her strides to nail that centre line on Iggy…Looking forward to some more posts!

I am a great admirer of all your work. I am a relatively new horse owner and know I have found the guidance I am looking for in you and Professor McGreevy. I have devoured your books and feel you give me comfort and support with your incredible knowledge and for this I am very grateful to you both. Thank you for your dedicated approach to equine welfare. Please know you make such a difference in this world. My dream would be to one day do the ESI diploma.

Collection is the horse assembling it's muscles to execute the requested manauver In balance with suppleness and increasing speed and accuracy.......

beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)

priceless information :D i appreciate it.

fascinating!

very helpful! thank you for providing this information :D

Your horse looks like he wants attention

Thank you for your contribution to helping horses. Listened to a podcast from Clan of the Horses. You have totally changed my way of thinking. Thank you.

Is this still available?

I agree with your statement that delayed punishment has no value. Positive reaction to things well done are much better, anyway. I don't agree with your statement about the horse not being able to look back and forward. Looking back is having memories, and looking forward is reasoning. For the horse this means to avoid danger (or perceived danger). I'm working with horses for 50 years, and they prooved to be able to remember and reason very well. In fact, my entire training philosophy is based on teaching horses by having them learn by reasoning. The results are amazing.

I love your videos and insight. But I have to say that you are ignoring a lot of the very bad physical consequences of cribbing on the horse. First, the upper teeth can be worn down to the point where they are nubs or nonexistent. I've known two horses like this. It makes it difficult for them to eat hay and impossible for them to graze on a pasture. Second, it can cause muscular imbalances and vertebrae problems in the neck esp. where the neck meets the head.

Horses suck

What about what it does to their teeth? I’m all for making my horse happy but I also want to keep him from harm if that makes sense. I worry about his teeth and weight.

I think the strangest thing about this video is the way you say "perseverance"

Education for horse and rider. Thankyou

I use the word 'Baton' rather than whip since what I am doing is similar to conducting. It helps remind me to think in terms of rhythm and dancing.

YEARS AGO (ABOUT 50), I TRAINED MY HORSE TO VOICE COMMANDS AND ALSO BODY CUES. I WAS IN THE SHOW RING AND THEY WERE HAVING ENGLISH IN ON RING AND WESTERN IN THE RING NEXT TO IT. WE WERE TROTTING IN THE ENGLISH RING WHEN THE ANNOUNCER FOR THE WESTERN RING CALLED OUT "WALK" WHICH MY HORSE WAS LISTENING TO. SHE BROKE HER STRIDE AND I SAID DON'T LISTEN TO HIM, LISTEN TO ME! I SAW THE JUDGE WHO HEARD WHAT I SAID TO SASSY, AND HE HAD A CHUCKLE OVER IT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS UNUSUAL! SHE WAS GREAT THE REST OF THE DAY. I FOUND IT SWEET THAT SHE LISTENED TO SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE SHE TREATED ME LIKE I WAS THE MOM. WHAT A HORSE!! I MISS HER SO MUCH. MY VET USED TO WATCH SASSY AND I. HE SAID THE HORSE LOVED ME. HE USED TO LAUGH AT HOW SHE AND I GOT ALONG. HE SAID THAT SASSY LIVED FOR ME. GREAT VET.

You didn't actually explain what windsucking and cribbing is. You didn't answer your own question in the KZbin title.

I wish more people in the horse world actually wanted to know what makes a horse tick. But just like with dogs, most of the world just never thinks about how each animal, or species, lives in their natural environment, and how to replicate this in their domesticated lives. Full disclosure: I was guilty of this, until I got a dog, and of course by then, people like the Dog Whisperer became popular, and taught us.

Sounds like you watched the Olympics as Annika beat the crap out of her horse for not jumping. Good advice, hopefully it's heeded in the "professional" world too.

Thanks for this! I have been using this, and my horse actually did "punch me in the chest with his withers." I wasn't sure how to feel about that but now I see it means he's using his body well.

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I smoke,,,,. And food, box, company, rider's demands,. Under, overstimulated

Is there specific reason why the cantle is so high? Everything I’ve studied about saddle fitting warns against that so it seems odd that it is clearly super high (pushing the rider towards the pommel and creating imbalance in weight distribution).

voh.fyi brilliant

Lovely take on cribbing! I have a cribbing mare, too, and for her it was most likely a whole list of things that caused it before we bought her. Stressful weaning process, being kept in a stall, not being able to socialize, wrong (too little) feeding. A year ago we also found out she has ulcers, which can be a reason as well. I was quite embarassed of her cribbing for a long time and we always tried to keep her from cribbing (never used a collar though!). Then I realized that preventing her from cribbing is a huge stress factor and that is not something I willingly want to put her through. She is a highly intelligent horse with a phenomenal personality, and I think it's sad that cribbers are viewed as "less" than other horses.

My ex wife does this, but she sucks out all my money.

Great description, thank you.

I’ve just acquired a windsucking mare. Apparently it was starved as a young horse and developed the habit through that. When I got her she went into a large grassy paddock and didn’t seem to windsuck very much. Now that I’ve moved her into my home paddock, of new timber post and rails, she is worse. There is still plenty of grass to eat. A collar hasn’t fixed it, and my gelding, who never even showed signs of chewing, appears to be picking up the habit, and he is the happiest he has ever been. I can’t afford one, let alone two, to destroy my fencing, and my gelding is hard to keep weight on at the best of times. So the mare has to go.

I have been using a metronome app to train under saddle, for example to make sure the beat stays constant while lengthening or shortening strides with minimal aids and continued relaxation of the horse and while riding pirouettes. Most helpful and educational for myself too! One more tool to really get into your cocoon of concentration during training.

Most horses, at time 3:00 in the video, would have sniffed the reflector, causing it to move, and they would have spooked back at that movement. All the warmblood did was violently raise his head. But a hot horse would have scooted backward at maximum velocity, reinforcing his fear. It would be helpful to show this strategy with a more reactive horse.

I expressed concern to a dressage trainer that she was cranking my horse's noseband way too tight. I told her that I kept 2 fingers width in the noseband of my horse. She had tightened the noseband so it was actually pressing into the skin on his muzzle. She wedged her finger into the groove between the mandibles of the horse, on the bottom of his head, and said, "See! I can still fit a finger in there." I explained that you would have to break his jaw not to have that groove, and that you actually measure the space on top, but it made no difference. The trainers don't just ride their own horses like that; they insist that their students bridle their hoses like this for lessons. It's getting to the point that if you want to avoid nerve and other damage to your horse's face, you feel like you can't take a dressage lesson at all. This is not the reputation that the sport should want. This fad of squashing horses' mouths shut as tightly as possible is going to lead to more rule changes if they won't quit it. How can you say your horse accepts contact if he can't even move his mouth? I am disappointed that more judges aren't responding.

You do realize that cribbing can lead to a gas colic, right?