It would y work because electroduplicate says at the beginning of the endstepsacrifice this token. So you would get to keep the token for 1 more turn but on that opponents endstep it would still sacrifice.

@@EDH_on_a_Budget That is how I thought it would work originally as well, maybe it does, but this is how I understand it now. When it enters, the trigger essentially attaches to the 'next' end step, so if that doesn't occur, it doesn't get sacrificed. Even though the following end step would be the 'next end step' in reality, the trigger doesn't know that. I could be wrong, I did think it worked the way you were saying.

Yes but electroduolicate doesn’t have the word next. It says at the end step

I use wizards oracle text to help with rules clarifications, updated changes to cards and etc. it states that cards that state until next endstep will trigger on the opponents end Tate because that becomes the next endstep. It is a very complicated card for sure

@EDH_on_a_Budget Ah, see that is how I thought it would work originally and was informed I was wrong than too, bah!

Thanks for the feedback

When there is a cool $40 card I get it’s hard to get the card. But when you see the prices of these cards it makes me want to get multiple copies.

I included some that you can use because they exile target players graveyard or opponents graveyards. Giving yourself hexproof will protect yourself from some of the biggest graveyard threats.

That is so much life gained. It could definitely keep you in the game an extra turn or two if played late game. Very nice how it’s instant speed. I like that one too.

Instant cards are so rough for graveyard decks because reanimation is typically at sorcery speed and you can’t see it coming. How much life do you typically get from this card? I’m thinking you easily get 8-10 life?

@@TimIce-s4n It depends. I played against a Muldrotha deck that was pouring creatures into his graveyard. I popped it off on turn eight or so and exiled over twenty in his alone. I thought he was going to cry. Sometimes I'll just cast it in response to a spore frog, for example. Average ten or so, though.

That’s so true. Maybe you could rule zero it?

That's a great idea to use them with Lurking Chupacabra!

@@EDH_on_a_Budget Francisco in particular is quite flexible with Partner. Deadeye Tracker is another great card for such a deck (repeatable gravehate that also explores).

It flickering itself is pretty cool and unique I say considering how easy it is to discard a card.

It will be so satisfying. It’s very selective in a madness deck. Almost like toxic deluge that way.

Thanks for watching and commenting. That is a strong commander. So many options for it.

Wow with allys they all give benefits to each other upon ETB. That would be nuts. Worth tapping out for.

I have a vadrik deck it doesn’t focus enough on treasures to make that a good win con for me. It’s a combo burn deck.

Vadrik really should be running red pump spells and rummage to win with a card like crackle with power.

No problem. There will be atleast another video or two on finishers.

Maybe you were winning too much.

@EDH_on_a_Budget haha, usually not a problem sadly

I agree but I never see it. Red keeps getting more and more ways to make copies of creatures

With the new junk tokens it would be hilarious to win by turning all the junk k into 4/4 creatures. Plus it can have huge plus 1/1 synergies.

@@EDH_on_a_Budget With Farid you can turn scrap artifact tokens (that do nothing) into solid finishers!

That’s a fair point but blue also has tutor for artifact cards and I like that the army can be created at instant speed right before your turn.

Just one person? I know so many players that play so few basics it’s a nice land to hate on nonbasic land cards

@@EDH_on_a_Budget Ha, yeah, I know plenty, there is one in particular I would like to use that against. He's the 'that guy' in the pod.

Thanks I will fix that next episode.

It only had 1 printing so I’m sure supply is limited.

@EDH_on_a_Budget ah, that would do it

Thanks. It’s a learning process. I have no computer or editing background so I imagine these videos editing has improved some since the original videos.

Depending how many plus 1/1 counters are on the creatures you control you may also benefit from a certain green sorcery that changes your creatures into 6/4 base power. I don’t remember if it was in my finishers video part 1 or two.

Just depends what colors you splash it with. White and green easily have and make fliers. It also gets nuts with reds instant speed double strike spells. See one will get through give it double strike. Reds extra combat spells would be crazy too.

I believe we are right and which would mean he would be incredibly resilient with a sac outlet.

3 counters the turn he comes out and potentially 3 more in the rotation that’s 6 counters for the first full rotation. There is so much you can do with that.

@@EDH_on_a_Budget Especially with that color combination, it gives you a lot of great options.

Thanks. Scale up is a little unknown. Especially with how it works with static pumps and plus 1/1 counters.

Interesting card. It doesn’t give any pump to power but gets power through. I also like Vivien’s stampede but it may not finish the job.

Overwhelming stamped risk is if your biggest creature gets removed the buff is smaller. Wildspeaker is good mid game or late for the card draw. And the pumping unblocked creatures is quite strong. Yes they won’t get around chump blockers if they have enough of them. But green also gives trample so easily. I can think of 10 cards that give all your creatures trample.

On arena is so good. I can only imagine it gets much better in a 4 player pod.

@@EDH_on_a_Budget A solid pick for sure, easy to build around with extra damage effects as well. Just taking out opponents' creatures and drawing cards all game!

Appreciate it. I play this commander on arena and the card draw is so good.