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@sabaro24 4 күн бұрын
ai thumbnails, yikes
@CompellingBytes 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I hope you do so on more of my videos.
@getoverit-y7z 5 күн бұрын
I appreciate the video. However brother....lol...it looks like it's time for a Mac. Lol. I'm a Linux guy. For a decade or more I've jumped through hoops to install libraries and drivers to make software work. Compile from source, configure, make, make install...blah blah. Sometimes you get tired of it and don't want to have to go through a whole course just to get something up and working.
@CompellingBytes 2 күн бұрын
This is a Linux channel, you're free to make your own mac channel. Also, I don't recall building anything from source in this video.
@getoverit-y7z 2 күн бұрын
@@CompellingBytes My apologies if I wasn't clear. I fully understand that this is a Linux channel. The point I was making is that one of the unfortunate drawbacks of Linux environments is that many popular apps are not built to work with ease on them. On Linux machines, you often have to perform extra steps like installing libraries, drivers, or compiling the application from source. I'm an avid Linux user with Linux sys admin experience. Sometimes you just don't want to have to go through all of those steps on your personal machine to get software working. This is all I was saying.
@humantofu 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I was thinking about switching over to Linux later in 2025 due to Windows 10 discontinuing free security updates soon, and so far things don't seem to be that bad on this card. Not perfect either, but the A770 wasn't a perfect card even on Windows, and it gets the job done for me just fine.
@CompellingBytes 6 күн бұрын
Hopefully the a770 continues to get support
@MegaManNeo 11 күн бұрын
I want Battlemage to be good. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed still is on 6.11.8 but I'd really like to give BM a try. If nothing goes, I could still use it for a secondary PC that runs Windows just to tinker around with it (would love to try gpu-passthrough too again but my mobo is ITX, so only one PCIe slot is available). Thanks for testing the A770 under Linux, there's way to few people testing ARC with Linux on KZbin.
@CompellingBytes 9 күн бұрын
Wait a couple of months at the least for Mesa 25.0 and Kernel 6.13/6.14 comes out. 6.14, iirc is when passthrough and SR-IOV will begin to be supported. No rush, and there might be more clarity regarding the B770/B780 status.
@etielrincon 13 күн бұрын
would you recommend the b580 over the a770?
@CompellingBytes 13 күн бұрын
Don’t buy either right now if youre using Linux. Maybe the b580 in a couple of months
@fiqkyakbar115 15 күн бұрын
can you help making workaround to lower the arc a770 idle wattage? mine around 40-50 watt :(
@CompellingBytes 14 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I don't have the skills to do that sort of thing, especially on my own. Have you tried enabling ASPM in your BIOS (technically UEFI) to achieve lower idle wattage? Also, I've read that you can lower idle usage by turning off your monitor(s), assuming you don't ever turn your computer off.
@TimothyDuran 15 күн бұрын
I kept reading in the kernel patch dev notes for 6.13 and saw how there's a fix coming through for the memory efficiency for the a series of intel arc gpus, along with the retirement of the i915 driver and replacement with the Xe driver. I'm desperately hoping that the memory controller improvement provides a major uplift in Intel's emulation of double-precision floating point performance on the arc series. I'm pretty convinced that this is one of the true weak points of the a series and what feels like is holding my a770 back from performing past the b580 right now. I have a lot of games where I can't make use of the full vram module and will have a lot of nasty 1% lows, both on Windows 11 24h2 and on Fedora 41 - kernel 6.12.5. I'm hoping they pull through on the a series architecture and don't abandon it because of the ground-up redesign they did with Xe2 and battlemage. I see there being a lot of potential for testing for later drivers and later architecture left on the table if they abandon the a series. They're still good right now, but have the potential to age like fine wine in my eyes with that 16 gb of gddr6 ram and a 256 bit bus. Considering Nvidia has already announced that their next AI trick is going to focus on compressing data output to smooth out the inconsistencies from low clock speeds or knee-capped vram buffers in their "budget" tier cards, the gap has narrowed within two gens. Intel and AMD will likely have their answer to that software trick in the coming months, closing the gap and leaving the hardware and stability/performance development of the drivers as what's left on the table. Nvidia has kneecapped their hardware offerings yet again, and AMD announced that they're not going to release a competitor to the 5090. AMD is capable of doing better, but own the entire home and pc handheld market demand for APUs. They're likely avoiding a monopoly case like the ones Nvidia is facing by holding back (especially considering their gpu they produced for the Mac Pro machine years ago nearly beat out the 3090 ti at the time. Intel entering the gpu space with a solid price to performance offering and continuing to advance and develop their drivers and software needs to happen. Intel's enthusiast cpus have fallen behind AMD for yet another gen. Their gpus having such a good response should send a signal back to Intel's failing commercial end; they need to change, and these gpus have the potential to save their commercial interest. But that's enough of my yapping. Great video! I hope that the arc a770 ages well like I'm anticipating and will pull through with a performance jump on the new drivers and memory control update like they claim is happening.
@CompellingBytes 14 күн бұрын
Hmm, in what context are the devs saying that the i915 will be retired? i915 isn't a driver for what became and obscure platform like Itanium, it's the driver for many generations of igpus that are in use countless systems today, it's kind of the backbone of why machines like old thinkpads are preferred for linux users of all levels of experience, not to mention homelabbers and people with media servers. Xe will only be supporting Tigerlake and forward. Have you taken a look at the Xe - Merge Acceptance Plan on kernel dot org slash next? They don't give a definitive timeline but it doesn't seem the devs necessarily plan on abandoning Alchemist soon, though this is a bit of a reason why I made this video. I see these updates as a sign that they will be continuing working on support for Alchemist, but I could be wrong, and will continue to check in on this in case they don't make an explicit announcement. I don't know if you've seen some of the interviews a higher up at AMD had with, iirc, Tom's Hardware regarding UDNA and the future of compute on consumer GPUs... I was considering talking about that in the Mac Studio video I published about a month ago but thought the video would be too long. Maybe I'll make a separate video on the topic. Don't call this 'yapping,' I appreciate the thoughtful comment, I just don't know if youtube comments is the ideal place to post these long responses 😁
@TimothyDuran 14 күн бұрын
Btw, is it just me or is gaming and a lot of hardware issues on Intel Arc's A series just kind of non-existent on Linux? I've had far less issues with Arc on Linux than I've had on Windows. I've had graphic artifacting bugs, bugs that made games impossible to play, and bugs that would just crash my programs if there was a memory controller issue on Windows 11. On Linux? The only bugs I have are usually on my laptop's boot hardware. My desktop that houses the A770 almost never has issues on Linux. The majority of my Linux issues are with Discord and other software devs and their slow implementation of Wayland. Arc is leagues and bounds better on Linux imo.
@CompellingBytes 14 күн бұрын
@@TimothyDuran It depends on what you're doing/playing with your Arc card. Games with certain features (DX12/Unreal Engine 5 in most cases) that don't even seem to start. Maybe (hopefully) that's changed with Battlemage.
@TimothyDuran 10 күн бұрын
@@CompellingBytes only features for me that don't work are related to XeSS not being supported on Linux yet. Apparently that and a lot of other support goodies are coming in 6.13. Definitely excited for Q1 of 2025.
@Fesovika 4 күн бұрын
@@TimothyDuranmost of the games work better on Linux than they do on Linux for me (mostly dx11 titles) For instance my wife loves house flipper 1&2 . On windows it's unplayable mess, on Linux it's a fucking rocket
@15placekd 15 күн бұрын
im pessimistic about the a770, thinking about selling my bifrost a770 and getting a 7600xt or 7700xt depending on how much it costs in my country
@CompellingBytes 15 күн бұрын
You’re free to feel as you like. I’m just sharing my opinion and while I hope this video informs, at the end of the day, what matters most is what you get out of what you have. The timeframe definitely has been a long one compared to the gaming experience you can get on a radeon card, though make sure to do further research and look up how the 7000 series is performing on linux. I’ve been surprised seeing how long it took for drivers to support them, but its been months since I’ve checked in on that and things might’ve improved. Thanks for watching and commenting
@15placekd 15 күн бұрын
@@CompellingBytes Yes, ive done my research. Im kinda getting tired of the waiting game and not really much hope coming from intel on alchemist cards as quoting a guy working in intel, "It won't ever get media support (xe driver) because of their refusal to implement the jank of how firmware is loaded on Alchemist." I really would like to abstain from getting something like the 7600xt, since its just a 7600 with 16gb's of vram after all. Would be losing the bus width and some theoritical performance, whatever that means. I cant get a 7700xt since its too expensive! (even used..) I guess i'll just live with it for now, and see if battlemage proves itself on linux. Best hopes.
@CompellingBytes 15 күн бұрын
@15placekdwell i wish I had my b580 in hand to work on a video to help you make a more informed decision but I’m not scheduled to receive it til Monday. The other comment in this thread is claiming that i915 is being retired next kernel release else, and that’s pretty concerning to me, because I won’t be able to easily record this content using alchemist. I’ve read documentation, though I don’t remember which document it was at the moment (I’ve been meaning to make a community post on the issue), that stated that i915 would be receiving updates parallel to Xe for the near future. I actually used i915 for this video, and I kinda regret I didn’t mention that in this video now. Though Xe is supposed to be default with 6.12, in the two instances I’ve upgraded to Kernel 6.12 with my A770 has defaulted to i915, and I had to blacklist i915 to get Xe to work. Remember theres a Xe portion to the Mesa Driver and has been the default since this summer or so and there doesnt appear to be an issue using it with the i915 kernel driver, assuming thats whats being used when I run things. Could I ask if there are any games you’d like to see tested on the B580? I can’t guarantee I’ll have all or any of them but I’ll see what I can do, especially since the game sales start soon.
@Fesovika 15 күн бұрын
@@CompellingByteshow to set xe permanently ? I have i915 in use as well on 6.12😢
@CompellingBytes 14 күн бұрын
@@Fesovika You have to blacklist i915 and then it seems you have to add the new firmware stuff from the Linux kernel site to get an Alchemist card to work with Xe on 6.12. Its the same performance, and you lose the encode/decode functionality of the card so I don't think all the extra work isn't worth it for an Alchemist card. What's worth trying is seeing about updating Mesa, but take heed to the warning I made in the video. What you see in the video is me using the newest Mesa, at least the newest Mesa up until December 7th.
@stinkinstinkus 29 күн бұрын
how much better will the the gameplay be with rebar?
@CompellingBytes 28 күн бұрын
I haven’t really tested without rebar, but it seems that theres a slim selection of distros (Zorin) that even start on older systems that don’t have rebar as a bios option. That might’ve changed in the last 6 months, maybe.
@YoureAverageKJV-v3n 29 күн бұрын
It's pretty awful, and it doesn't work on GPU's other than Intel.
@CompellingBytes 28 күн бұрын
Ah you're talking about the music I generated? Its not great. It seems the model can handle some prompts better than others... This tool works on CPU's, I'm not using a GPU in this video, though if I remember correctly from using this tool with my Arc card, the card generates the music a bit faster.
@MT-nu8ox Ай бұрын
This one is probably the coolest out of this series so far. Noise suppression would be more intresting if it would be live (so that if you play multiplayer games other people can understand you) like with noise torch but I don't that noise torch uses the gpu
@CompellingBytes 29 күн бұрын
Just to be clear, I'm using the CPU (i5 12500) for all of these demos. With that said, if the noise suppression tool could be converted to real time, it would be quite the app on Linux. I use it much more often for my voice overs than I do the music separation, but I can see how this tool can potentially be very useful for people producing music. Thank you for watching through the series!
@LivingLinux Ай бұрын
That is a way better result than I got with python-audio-separator and demucs.
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
Yeah, the people who put these plugins together at Intel did a really good job polishing things, it seems. The build process for Linux (which is a bit involved) is in the description if you're interested. This works with Intel processors for sure, and should work with AMD processors too, and Arc Graphics give them a good boost in a lot of cases.
@QuincasMoreira Ай бұрын
very cool! I didn't know Audacity could do this!
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
Yep! I assume you aren't much of a Linux user. The plugins are also available for Windows and Linux. I'll put the links in the description.
@tonystorcke Ай бұрын
They need a Flatpsk for me to even consider uding this.
@CompellingBytes 28 күн бұрын
I dunno, if it works it works for me. It would seem that by using flatpak, things would need to work through flatseal. Also, when using the flatpak version of kdenlive, the seeming latency introduced to audio when you apply modifications makes it pretty unusable. I’ve been wondering if bundling something like Resolve for something like Bottles would make things easy for Resolve’s devs.
@MT-nu8ox Ай бұрын
Hey. Do you know how to get qemu virtual machines with opengl through virtio working on intel arc? I've tried and always get a corrupted picture even before the OS (Ubuntu on the VM) boots.
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
There's an ongoing thread on the Level1Tech's Forum about SR-IOV, though I imagine you want to pass your whole card to one VM. Later in the thread there's a discussion more towards general passthrough and how the i915 driver hasn't gotten it yet. Earlier in the thread, iirc, people talked about there being a bit of a hack. I may not remember it totally, but if I recall, you have to do something like keep your monitor off as you boot. You should be able to find it by googling "Level1Techs + Intel Arc SR-IOV “hack”?" I recommend you check that out.
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
After watching, do you have a use case for this tool? If so, what?
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
Do you have a N100 based minipc? What do you use it for?
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
Was the music I generated in the latter half of the video actually good "industrial music," or was it just not good industrial music for Borderlands the Pre-Sequel?😁
@CrazyProcess-9999 Ай бұрын
Simply: N100 > Pi 5
@brandonrodriguez6 Ай бұрын
Idk what I’m doing wrong I can’t get ipex to work for automatic 1111 or vlad 1111 Openvino working tho. Is that okay?
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
Are you saying you're getting the openVINO implementation of Automatic1111 working? That should be the case. Ipex can be a bit iffy. Vladmandic is also a bit iffy and I've gotten it to work and not work between installed instances on the same machine. If you want to try the ipex route, you might want to try pytorch, which just got initial support for Intel GPUs in version 2.5. It works on Windows, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. I hope this helps.
@Seb_O Ай бұрын
omg
@nonetrix3066 Ай бұрын
At this rate I'm betting drivers might be on par at the tail end of Battlemage maybe hopefully
@MrTheNintroller Ай бұрын
Will you be testing your Arc gpu with the new 6.12 kernel?
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
I'm waiting for 6.12 to reach Mainline. I'll evaluate it and if there is a big jump in performance, I might make a video. I'm working on a number of videos so I think I'll put up a community post to see if there's a lot of interest in this.
@thaedleinad Ай бұрын
SC2k is a pretty hard game, all the SC that came after it were easy next to it. Or maybe I just got older and learned how to deal better with budget, who knows.
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure I figured out the game 15+ years ago, but I also haven’t played it in about that long. Iirc SC3 and SC4 is a bit easier.
@MT-nu8ox Ай бұрын
Is the voice AI generated?
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
If it makes you sleep better at night, sure
@Winnetou17 Ай бұрын
I had a feeling this was going to be about Strix Halo, and I'm happy I guessed it. Strix Halo is also interesting to me as it's the first x86 laptop that I know of that will have 4 memory channels, not the meager 2 channels that even 14900K, 9950X and 285K have. Of course, having about 4 times the normal iGPU cores does require a hefty memory bandwidth to feed them appropriately. And this should help for AI stuff too. Though on this front, the M chips go to 16 (yes, sixteen, 1024 bits) channels on the ultra chips (8 on max, if I'm not mistaken). So they might still have an advantage. While I'm generally rooting for Intel nowadays, I also hope that Strix Halo knocks it out of the park, as I want to see more on that front.
@CompellingBytes Ай бұрын
Yes, competition is generally good, and what you’re saying about innovations AMD seems to be making with memory channels (and as a result, the speed of said memory) is evidence of this. Thanks for watching, and your thoughtful comments are always appreciated.
@judewestburner 2 ай бұрын
Thanks man.
@AlexeyRiched 2 ай бұрын
Games from steam on my Arc 770 don't see graphics adapter, kernel 6.11((( in system use i915, you have test only native games?
@CompellingBytes 2 ай бұрын
Nope, I avoid native versions of games entirely.
@AlexeyRiched 2 ай бұрын
Games from steam on my Arc 770 don't see graphics adapter, kernel 6.11((( in system use i915, you have test only native games?
@yoyosan999 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video! I have been looking for information about using an intel gpu for davinci reaolve on Linux and finally found your channel. Thank you so much. I am considering switching from an Rtx 3060 to an Arc A770. If the Intel gpu works fine with davinci resolve studio on Ubuntu 22.04 then i am going to buy it. How is the timeline performance?
@CompellingBytes 2 ай бұрын
I'd say hold off for Battlemage... it should be going on sale early next year. The 3060, especially the 12GB version, is a great card. At the very least, wait until the holiday season to see how low Arc Alchemist prices will go.
@yoyosan999 2 ай бұрын
@@CompellingBytes Thanks for the suggestion. I am using the 3060 12GB version. For video editing it's been great but I want some extra performance for gaming at 1440P and the A770 should be a nice upgrade regarding gaming. The only thing that concerns me is the Linux compatibility, especially Davinci Resolve. It's not an urgent thing so I can just wait a few more months as suggested.
@CompellingBytes 2 ай бұрын
@@yoyosan999 Definitely wait a few months. As far as games running at all, DX12 games are a mixed bag, and Unreal 5 games don't start at all.
@pinheaddomi3353 2 ай бұрын
Huh, interesting to see Resolve working relatively well! On an unrelated note, have you by any chance noticed any driver improvements regarding performance on linux with intel arc? Especially compared to some of your older videos
@CompellingBytes 2 ай бұрын
Yes! I’ve seen improvements in a number of games including Borderlands 3 (in DX11 mode), Satisfactory, Bioshock Infinite, the Halo games (shader issues seems to be fixed), and Grand Theft Auto IV. Those have been the games I’ve checked up on recently. Dx12, Unreal 5, and Raytracing are still pain points though.
@therpp9183 2 ай бұрын
dont suppose anyone knows how to manually set the arc a770 fan speed in linux...
@CompellingBytes 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, this isn't supported yet, and being able to access the temperature of the gpu is being introduced in the next kernel release 😕.
@daviusikse1486 2 ай бұрын
Big error: Rocm WORK on 6700XT on Linux. No problem. And DaVinci works. I use it with 6700 10gb. It also should work with a RX580, an 5000 series with hardware encoder. The first ROCm card for 6000 series is the 6600. Others doesn't have hardware encoder. For other cards, you can use AMD legacy OpenCL version that should also work.
@CompellingBytes 2 ай бұрын
Great! I look forward to your video tutorial on the subject!
@Emiliano-r5r1h 3 ай бұрын
should i install fedora?
@CompellingBytes 3 ай бұрын
@@Emiliano-r5r1h You can. I just haven’t had the chance to really use arc on Fedora. From what I briefly gleaned from info about Fedora packages, these packages are available, but I don’t remember if they share the same names as github, openSUSE, or Ubuntu based distros.
@Emiliano-r5r1h 3 ай бұрын
do all these apply for fedora as well?