NetworkSound Here: We traced the issue to assembly tech grabbing the wrong solder spool by mistake (Kester - Water soluble) for this batch of boards. Back to the normal solder and flux cleanup remover, the splitter is working well. The affected small batch of boards have been isolated/recalled. All other issues are also addressed to the customer satisfaction.
@bassobalalaikka6363 күн бұрын
H i guess i the black thing in the 4:21 position is a precision voltage divider to scale down 10V to 100mV it might consist of a 199880 Ohm and a 20Ohm vesistor , that are very well matched in tempco and value to give the 100:1 attenuation
@LazyTek-jg4qk7 күн бұрын
Iam a noob at electronics but always willing to learn, i read the esx/emx have a debug connector, i immagine the ER1 ETC. dont have such a thing since you desplser the whole memory chip and put it in a reader, my ER1 is working but has some strange parameter like bug, hard to understand if it is a hardware problem wich you would guess is most likley, but everything else works perfectly and i'm almost convinced it could be some kinda of software bag within the firmware or something, so i was hoping for a way to reflash the firmware or something.
@feedback-loop7 күн бұрын
Update: people form NetworkSound watched this and worked with my friends to fix the problem for them. They also said that they will fix the production process.
@tokrqui28129 күн бұрын
Thank you very much. I ran into the same problem. The speaker wouldn't turn on, and when turned off, the display backlight was blinking. Inside, I didn't see any signs of damage, all components were intact, including capacitors. I checked the voltages - there was actually 4V on the 5V bus, the other buses were fine. I started looking for information and found your video. I checked the capacitor that you replaced. Mine was also damaged - the capacitance was 90 μF instead of 1000 μF, although it looked fine visually. After replacing the capacitor and checking the voltage on all buses, everything was OK. Now it works.
@rfrf10779 күн бұрын
坏点是什么功能实现?
@mikedouble386410 күн бұрын
What is substitution for IC CL2106OH ? KRK ROKIT 5 G4 power supply. Can't find datasheet. Thank you.
@ChrisFotopoulos12 күн бұрын
Very good video ! If you can help me, I have a problem with my Amp. Same model. After a source change from my daughter with max volume the soft clipping which it was on is failed. What can I do/check in order to fix it by myself. The amp is working perfectly after than incident but the soft clipping is not activated led is off !
@drillgirl71813 күн бұрын
the older version is 16-bit which is why it sounded so good unlike the 24-bit which is more high quality but not as gritty and tough
@MalikEmmanuel13 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the rack version can record 32/64 channels if you connect it to a daw. It's only 2 channels if you are recording directly to the SD card slot.
@feedback-loop13 күн бұрын
of course. but mixing boards of this line can record 34/64+2 to SD card. I would love to have that in rack versions
@PapasDino15 күн бұрын
For sure I'd contact the manufacturer (if possible) and just point them to this video...very disappointing and ever more so frustrating!
@EriksElectronicsWorkbench15 күн бұрын
It looks like defective or poor quality PCB material, or perhaps the PCB material was contaminated with something conductive during manufacture. In my line of work I came across circular multi-pin connectors from a well known manufacture that had defective/conductive rubber grommets, in the few megohms to tens of megohms like your PCBs. The rubber had a manufacturing defect so such things can happen. I like the idea of making replacement PCBs, there must be many more units out there that need this repair. Your point to point wiring turned out nicely but no doubt time consuming.
@ZlayaCo6aka15 күн бұрын
Actual experience: Equipment was used at a seaside location with humid salty air, and salt laden moisture was absorbed into the PCB. Cleanings had some effect, soaking and baking had more effect, but the only permanent solution was to replace the PCBs and apply conformal coating. The PCB material was that tan porous "consumer electronics" junk though.
@andymouse15 күн бұрын
Wow! makes me think of carbon loaded plastics, like all this black around, but you tested the PCB with nothing else connected I think (will run it again) so these huge resistances are an artifact of the PCB manufacture. Can you stick a bare PCB in the oven 100 C overnight and bake it ? But again the big change with the wired version was the black connectors so I dunno....but personally I would hit Kicad and get one made ! surely less painful than wiring that lot up.
@pa1wbu15 күн бұрын
If you have a scrap board available: remove the solder resist on a channel and see what happens. Looks a bit like some bozo put a can of 'anti-static' paint in the machine that applied the solder resist?
@klassichd1015 күн бұрын
Some PCBs show an effect called "Conductive Anodic Filament" (CAF) which reduces the isolation resistance. But it is observed especially at higher voltages. Maybe the PCB contains some impurities leading to a migration of copper ions.
@JYelton10 күн бұрын
I too was going to suggest possible CAF.
@larbikamla854115 күн бұрын
We missed your meticulous investigation on fixing electronic test equipments.
@PeterCut6216 күн бұрын
PCB moisture contamination => Put the PCB into ventilated oven and test. If wrong change PCB
@cjay216 күн бұрын
Hate to say it, but you get what you pay for. Tell them to buy hand-wired boxes that work, instead of these 'modern' failures-in-waiting.
@udokampfinger637416 күн бұрын
My guess is that there is moisture in the circuit board.Try to remove all connectors and cook it in an oven at like 140c see if that works ,I've never seen this one before Good find.
@micronetwork16 күн бұрын
Make your own box and call it FeedbackNoLoop 😁
@MrKrishabang7 күн бұрын
Was just thinking about buying this thing and came across this video. I’d be your first customer if you’d make this :D (i’d like XLR male connectors instead of female).
@TheDefpom16 күн бұрын
Make new PCBs, once you’ve got them you can repair as many as you need in very little time, maybe even just make your own and not bother with that junk at all.
@gammarayflash117016 күн бұрын
I would not try to dry the PCBs in an oven because it is quite likely that the problem will reoccur. In my opinion, there are two solutions: replace the PCBs completely with wire connections or have new, high quality PCBs made.
@soulrobotics16 күн бұрын
I would try to unsolder everything, then a bath of pure acetone, preferably with ultrasound, then a bath of pure alcohol, and let it dry in the oven at 60ºC for 2 hours.If this fix it, after resolder everything, put some uv top coat.
@perhansson671816 күн бұрын
Maybe the flux wicked up the conductors and is on the other side of the PCB as well and was protected during your cleaning by the connectors? I would try cleaning the board you removed the connectors from again with regular soap and water, if that does not fix it I'd try acetone and if that does not fix it maybe put it in an oven for 24 hours and if that still does not work I'd design new PCB's, very interesting video :)
@navidnasiri138416 күн бұрын
The damper pedal in my piano with this model is a bit stiff. Is there an adjustment screw that I can loosen a bit?
@DrFrank-xj9bc16 күн бұрын
Tough soldering job - well done! I guess they used cheap PCB material, might be low quality / bad CEM 3.
@ScottDotDot16 күн бұрын
My first thought was bad vias without proper clearance to the ground plane. It looks like almost every trace goes through a via (on the back of the board anyhow). Really poor PCB quality at any rate. If you do end up redesigning the PCBs and post the files online, it may help out some other people that have those same devices. Because with three bad examples on your bench alone, there a probably thousands (?) of faulty units out there. Either way, glad to see you posting a lot of videos recently. Longtime fan of the channel!
@ScottDotDot16 күн бұрын
Or maybe a poor quality substrate that absorbed moisture? I.e. if you stuck one of the boards in your oven at like 80-90°C for an hour (or left it in a bag with desiccant for a few days), would the inter-trace resistance go down.
@Groove102416 күн бұрын
i think to design a PCB for them is a good idea as they are garbage and the used market is probably going to be flooded of that model used but almost brand new not working so your friend if he need more can get them for almost nothing plus the price of the repair
@mikemaki984116 күн бұрын
Maybe take the unpopulated pcb's and put them in a oven for a while and see if it dries out any moisture in them
@MrDubje16 күн бұрын
My first hypothesis was hygroscopic flux as well, as I've had it happen before in my multimeter. But this issue must be the related to the boards themselves. PCBs do absorb moisture as well. At the assembler where I work we dry PCBs before reflow soldering if the package has been open for too long. Obviously these boards are just wave soldered, but the same moisture absorption can happen over time, I guess. I've never seen a device fail because of conductive boards before, though. Suggestion: Put them in a small, temperature controlled oven at 60-70C (140-158F) for 24 hrs. See if it makes a difference.
@k1mgy16 күн бұрын
"PCBs do absorb moisture as well." CHINA.
@MrDubje16 күн бұрын
@k1mgy Most, if not all PCB manufacturers are located in China. If we order from a company in our own country, they are just a middleman. PCBs that are made for the commercial market get vaccuum packed with a humidity indicator, just like SMT part that have a MSL. Due to the reflow process any moisure in a component or PCB can rapidly expand and destroy it. PCBs can delaminate. As I said I 've never heard of a finished product with boards becoming so conductive. It is the only theory here, though.
@vdivanov16 күн бұрын
Perhaps contact the manufacturer or go with another one. This is not acceptable.
@SidneyCritic16 күн бұрын
I have had a LED dimly lit for no reason, but after a PCB wash it fixed it. Don't know why your wash didn't work, unless it's something insolvent with what you washed it with, or the PCB is maybe porous and absorbed something - maybe possible on the edges, but not very likely in the centre -.
@RambozoClown16 күн бұрын
Were they made by Tom Evans? 🤡
@feedback-loop16 күн бұрын
If they were, we wouldn't be able to afford them :)
@vadimbellous831316 күн бұрын
The problem could be in an inner layer if it's a multi-layer board. It would be interesting to see it x-rayed.
@feedback-loop15 күн бұрын
no inner layers here. simple 2-layer board
@andybonneau920916 күн бұрын
Incredibly poor PCB quality. I think that is the cheapest and easiest way to go. Probably not the quickest however.
@amirb71516 күн бұрын
maybe the PCB's absorbed moisture somehow? Depending on what kind of material they were made of, I suppose it could be a possibility. If you put them in oven to get the moisture out then....
@gorak900016 күн бұрын
oven would be my first attempt. Second would be scan and re-draw them in kicad, and get new ones made
@laoluu16 күн бұрын
Or use a hairdryer, at least to see the if it changes anything. Maybe your "free wiring method" is the way to go, on a cold winter night. Happy New Year!
@FlyingShotsman15 күн бұрын
Good point. I'd try drying them in an oven and if that fixes the problem, then I'd spray them with heavy coats of conformal coating to keep them dry permanently.
@gorak900015 күн бұрын
@@laoluu I'm not sure that a hairdryer would do much. I'd follow the procedure for bake drying surface mount chips before reflow soldering to prevent them from popcorning (where moisture in the epoxy package turns to steam during reflow and blows a chunk out) - usually it requires baking for several hours at temps over 100C to drive all the moisture out.
@DeadKoby16 күн бұрын
PCB's becoming conductive is such a frustration. I like your point to point fix, but it is a TON of work. Historically, that's the way it once was done, and worked for decades.
@richardballinger51716 күн бұрын
Are you seeing the same resistances across a dismantled bare board? Maybe better make your own boards? You can get xlr type rck cases, maybe make your own?
@MerlinMerlinL16 күн бұрын
Bad PCB process. this is not repair. This is REMAKE!!!
@ickipoo16 күн бұрын
If the PCBs in the breakout boxes are bad, what about the PCBs in the mixer itself?
@sjfriedl16 күн бұрын
Can this be described as anything other than shoddy design and manufacturer?
@dpyles939616 күн бұрын
Replacement PCBs
@billspencer854016 күн бұрын
Once we used a _no clean_ Flux on a job that required high reliability. It was a nightmare. OC insisted the no clean Flux needed not to be cleaned. It turned out this specific Flux likes to soak up humidity, and then it becomes quite conductive. We measured on unrelated signal trace resistance as low a one kilo Ohm. Try again cleaning the boards, perhaps with Isopropyl in an ultrasonic bath.
@SuperLefty7917 күн бұрын
My G4 rokit 7 LCD has gone blank but the speaker still powers on and works?? Could it possibly be the same issue and capacitor i wonder...
@teclairedikoume726619 күн бұрын
Nice video
@정태용-w2x25 күн бұрын
몇년전 우연한 기회에 입수한 QSC 1400, 분해해 보고 나의 설계철학에 가장 부합한 1PCB에 입,출력, 전원만 투입하면 동작하는 가장 이상적인 설계, 호기심에 상위기종 1310, 입수, 결론은 신호경로 최소화로 음이 깨끗하고 순수한음, PCB와 일부부품 고급화만 이루어 진다면, 대출력, 내구성, 가격등 빈자의 마크레빈슨에 전혀 손색없는 최고의 AMP,
@alaingingras722425 күн бұрын
Only a Genius can figure trhis out ...Bravo !
@8290Wgu26 күн бұрын
replacement for fluke tools is very difficulty, sometimes asking them they are not respond, they want customer througvto the bin and order new one, very disappointed this brand