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@christinasavannah7992
@christinasavannah7992 Ай бұрын
He was not a good person he had mental issues however ......Raditch should have never allowed Rick back into degrassi
@HieiDaHellSpawn94
@HieiDaHellSpawn94 Ай бұрын
I have a feeling that rick was Autistic
@natashawilliams5535
@natashawilliams5535 Ай бұрын
FIRST🦷
@natashawilliams5535
@natashawilliams5535 Ай бұрын
Boost🫦
@natashawilliams5535
@natashawilliams5535 Ай бұрын
Girl you need some VIEWS😘💋
@natashawilliams5535
@natashawilliams5535 Ай бұрын
Boost🐴
@mindofapisces
@mindofapisces 2 ай бұрын
Omg yess I love Glee but they def had some issues
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 2 ай бұрын
Adored this show, hell still do! But I always say it’s a show of it’s time because some of the mess they got away with while it was airing would not be easily overlooked if it were airing today lol
@genesiselaine
@genesiselaine 3 ай бұрын
1. i have to disagree with toby ever taking his relationship with liberty seriously. they were grieving and that’s his dead best friends true love aka her dead baby daddy, that’s some tubi shi cmon toby 😭 2. agree that claire could’ve ended up with either guy and been in hell. she should’ve slapped eli after that “really claire” moment. stayed single, been besties with drew, and went on to not be tied down by her toxic high school sweetheart. sis couldn’t stay away
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 3 ай бұрын
Lmaooo aye I can’t even disagree there 😭 I was against them hooking up period but aye I understood them both grieving and taking comfort in each other. And literally!!! Like the options wasn’t much of a good deal to begin with 😭😭😭 and that’s the ending Clare really deserved!
@genesiselaine
@genesiselaine 3 ай бұрын
before even starting the video, i think degrassi is amazing at showing all of their characters as victims and villains at some point in their arc. even tho i didn’t watch it until i was like 16, it helped shed light simply on the complexity of human nature. especially when it’s teenagers! such a valuable lesson
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 3 ай бұрын
I def agree, I feel like most were more flawed as opposed to villains, but even with villian characters (i.e. Jay, Alex, Rick, Johnny) they weren’t just 100% bad despite joining the show as antagonists, so just like you said
@doe.dearest
@doe.dearest 4 ай бұрын
i have a lot of sympathy for esme. she shows traits of what i think is maybe bpd. i just finished watching next class for the like 5th time and i was really upset at the end because i felt like it further stigmatized mental illness in a way. when they showed all the social media posts of the characters' happy endings going off to college, etc., but they did not include one for esme, i literally started sobbing for her. i was also upset about how awful all the other characters talked about her and the only sympathetic thing said about her in the end was maya saying esme needs the kind of help that i did. i feel like that's just how people treat mentally ill people in crisis irl tho. like instead of seeing someone clearly needing help or acceptance, people tend to demonize those people. they immediately write them off as inherently bad.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 3 ай бұрын
I completely agree, even in times when I didn’t care for Esme the other characters still treated her terribly like when Zig and his friends tried slut shaming her, and oh how I wish that the show would’ve had another season to have Esme enter her redemption arc/seeking help and us getting to see the process for that, and I agree it’s sad the lack of sympathy the other characters had for her, now granted I can understand considering a lot of them had been done wrong by her and also the fact that they were most likely ignorant on the type of disorders she could be struggling with hence her “odd” behavior, but still I can def see how the show ending her storyline like that comes across as slightly demonizing her and her mental illnesses/disorders
@doe.dearest
@doe.dearest 3 ай бұрын
@ShaneTheCreative ugh, the slut shaming was awful. another moment that made me feel for her, is when she tried to fit in at the beginning of the camping episode, and no one would give her a chance and made it awkward. you're so right, though. esme did some terrible things, but it would've been amazing to see her character development and an inspiration for viewers to see that everyone deserves a chance at redemption.
@Shaylovespopeye
@Shaylovespopeye 4 ай бұрын
Shane, let me tell you something a kiss is different than sex so whoa whoa wow I think that he should have every right to be mad. I don’t like that he called her that word but I don’t think that she should’ve done what she did a kiss as well, not as worse than a sex, sex is way worse worse than anything that you can do to somebody that is too far. I love them and I always will but as far that’s way too far.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 3 ай бұрын
Having sex and kissing is different yes, but kissing someone outside of your monogamous relationship is still cheating, they both cheated Eli just did it first, and he can be mad but calling Clare out of her name to purposely disrespect her and hurt her was foul as hell 💀 I’m sorry but there’s no justifying Eli doing that for me 😭
@Shaylovespopeye
@Shaylovespopeye 3 ай бұрын
@@ShaneTheCreative i know but I love them I am glad they end up together
@dionneking8
@dionneking8 4 ай бұрын
Never really thought about Chante till now and your right
@dionneking8
@dionneking8 4 ай бұрын
Liberty was hot she glowed up for her and for terri❤❤❤ liberty was also 11 and a freshman
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 4 ай бұрын
Link to my Degrassi’s Neglect Of Black Girls video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5bYpKV6r5l2hKMsi=8dfaW2G7F3lfxWfE And also the link to the original Degrassi tweet in case y’all wanna check out the replies & QTs too: x.com/degrassichats/status/1750163213814054955?s=46&t=1aqK-qBpBRPryBU8WzDaUA
@netta911
@netta911 4 ай бұрын
@amytrapani4452
@amytrapani4452 5 ай бұрын
They tried to explain this issue with liberty but she still became a bit of a glorified extra.The degrassi producers also tried to explain racism with lucy and blt,but they ended up getting less sceen time to.Degrassi still handles tough issues like racism better than American shows.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 4 ай бұрын
Very much on the “glorified extra” part, in my newest video I talk about Liberty and had did some looking back at her time on the show and I came to realize that they didn’t do her charater any justice either really. And degrassi was really ahead of its time with some of the issues they covered, just not in regards to misogynoir and neglecting their Black girl characters 😩😭
@amytrapani4452
@amytrapani4452 5 ай бұрын
Great deep dive video.i was just thinking about this issue when watching the reality show southern charm which features mostly white blonde females who look exactly the same.i work occasionally as an extra in Atlanta tv and film.i actually feel bad that black females get treated like glorified extras.cant feel good,if you have trained so hard to be a working actor,then get upgraded to cast ,only to get one line in an episode.ive seen extras randomly given.a few lines hopefully this issue will improve since the strike and with networks like abc adding workshops for minorities that supposedly help them find opportunities in Hollywood.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! ♥️ And yeah this an issue that goes even just beyond scripted teen dramas and it’s sad & disgusting honestly, literally like you said. I truly hope a change is coming where Black women, especially darker skinned Black women, are getting casted for main roles. Also I’m in Atlanta too and I’ve literally been considering looking into doing extra work too, I just thought this was a cute coincidence lol 🫶🏿
@leifchalouhi5601
@leifchalouhi5601 5 ай бұрын
I would say he was both a victim and a villain. He became a villain because of what the other people did to him but I agree with the others that you know you shouldn’t miss treat your girlfriend and all that other stuff you know that’s wrong him shooting up the school was wrong.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 4 ай бұрын
Yeah we can acknowledge the wrongs done to him while also holding him accountable for his bad actions as well
@ashleyburchettajleefanlove4683
@ashleyburchettajleefanlove4683 8 ай бұрын
To me personally I am a huge Degrassi fan I love Degrassi what Rick did to Terrie was awful but people bullying him because of what he did wasn’t right Toby , Emma and Jimmy all trying to be his friend was just nice to see that maybe he isn’t all bad I would say he’s both
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s either good or bad, he has both good and bad traits, made good and bad actions, I like to liken Rick to being a deeply flawed character who had potential for a redemption but as we know he didn’t get the chance to
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 8 ай бұрын
Link to Cheyenne Lin’s video that I mentioned as being the inspiration behind me wanting to discuss Rick’s arc within the show: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6XQZHeEp9GVjJYsi=sYsBNvKnb4pvdL-j A great watch, highly recommend
@dimentioo
@dimentioo 8 ай бұрын
the fact that Chantay was on the show for 7 seasons and was rarely ever prominent is crazy.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 8 ай бұрын
Real crazy, like the way they could’ve easily given her some main plots to actually utilize her character instead of just having her in the background for one liners but just refused to is terrible
@bougie-nel362
@bougie-nel362 8 ай бұрын
I loved Hazel and Chantay. But never knew their backstory or even parents. They were typical "best friend carriers". I also noticed whenever the boys were closeted gay or trying to make their girls jealous they would date Marisol or Chantay or when none of the white girls wanted Jimmy, Moe 😅 (Hazel & Marisol).
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative 8 ай бұрын
I’m dead cuz why that’s lowkey the truth lmaoooo 😭😩😭
@PakkuUnalaqJeongJeongKuvira
@PakkuUnalaqJeongJeongKuvira Жыл бұрын
I love Liberty and Drake they are great characters
@FinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnN
@FinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnN Жыл бұрын
Technically none of the cast was white they were Canadian
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Race and nationality is not the same thing. White Canadians exist, Black Canadians exist, along with Asian Canadians, etc etc. their race is still White
@FinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnN
@FinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnN 11 ай бұрын
@@ShaneTheCreative says who excatly u don’t know there family tree
@Nharmon1
@Nharmon1 Жыл бұрын
Following based on this video and I’m not even half through it yet lol, I grew up watching degrassi idk how old you are but I’m 26 and even first seeing drake after Degrassi for the first time, the first thing I said was “isn’t that jimmy from Degrassi” lol but will be watching your other videos now
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that 🥹♥️ and I’m 25! So I def get where you’re coming from lol and I grew up on Degrassi but heavily got into it during like my middle & high school years
@TTCandlevibe
@TTCandlevibe Жыл бұрын
I always felt like Ashley was biracial to me just passing.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Rewatching now I can def see why, but back in the day younger me just thought she was a White person with a natural tan 💀😭
@Embndeath
@Embndeath 5 ай бұрын
S A M E
@dionneking8
@dionneking8 4 ай бұрын
She is bi racial did u also no she was on a rap version of American idol on upn 9 created by Missy Elliott
@user-zt4kj1go2d
@user-zt4kj1go2d Жыл бұрын
Its weird because Lucy from Degrassi Jr. High/High was SO developed and had solid roles in multiple plot points in the 80s/90s… but then the 2000s happens and they are like…black people WHO? 😂😂😂
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Right!?!? It’s so wild 😭 idk maybe she was the token black character that they actually wanted to invest time and energy in, I wouldn’t put it pass them that her being biracial played a part chile
@allisonfunk-mq9ew
@allisonfunk-mq9ew Жыл бұрын
I hate how women of color were treated on this show. The black women were extras who had a line or two, the number of asian women in the degrassi black hole is ridiculous, and we didn't really get any other women of color until Next Class (even then, you had one of the few women of color written as the "crazy" girl).
@azzz7279
@azzz7279 Жыл бұрын
it seems like Shay was Keisha’s replacement in Next Class. It’s like they couldn’t have 2 black girls on the show
@bestabothworldz2766
@bestabothworldz2766 Жыл бұрын
One of the better characters of this show was Trinity . Ps i dont even know Kesha or heard of her.
@sevenstarred77
@sevenstarred77 Жыл бұрын
I hate mia, she is such a brat😮😊
@elizabethchint2391
@elizabethchint2391 Жыл бұрын
They would either make the black characters a token, follower or a complete dork with terrible storylines.
@azazelgrigori9244
@azazelgrigori9244 Жыл бұрын
In all honesty, I preferred Cartoon Network at the time. When I was on Disney, I wanted to see Dave the Barbarian (my name is Dave). For me, Proud Family was just something that was on. I watched it, but I never got into it. As an adult, I tend to prefer shows that were meant to entertain over shows that were meant to teach lessons or morals. Those that are supposed to teach (preach), in my opinion, typically handle their topics in a rushed or shallow manner that can potentially do more harm than good. Like in the episode about bullying where Penny's answer to dealing with the gross sisters was to work for them. Or how one or two episodes prior, Trudy let them into the house and guilted Penny into accepting them. I was bullied by some of the girls in my class, so I didn't appreciate either episode. I actually just got into South Park, and I think they handle race better than Proud Family ever could. The Big Fix in season 25 taught that you should get to know someone before you try to "Help" them. Stan tried to "Help" Tolkien, and the guy was heavily embarrassed. At least that's how I interpret the episode. As for, say, the Juneteenth episode of Louder and Prouder, it felt like the creators were trying to catch up with political fads from 2020. All in all, I think they suck at what they do.
@criticalhit009
@criticalhit009 Жыл бұрын
cool vid!
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Thank you I appreciate it ♥️🫶🏿
@scottmcneely1927
@scottmcneely1927 Жыл бұрын
White privilege? Shawn was also white. He was just poor while Peter was a rich kid.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Yes, even poor white people have/benefit from white privilege. Granted, Peter had more privileges over Sean with being a rich white male, but Sean was still a white male. White privilege doesn’t mean your don’t have struggles and isn’t effected by other oppressing factors (i.e. white women, having white privilege but still facing sexism) and then race and class are two different things
@Guren94
@Guren94 Жыл бұрын
About the Gross Sisters. They're way underrated and just like with LaCienega people focus on the negative and knit pick reasons to be offended so they can have something to complain about and their voices be heard. The Gross Sisters are bullies but they actually break stereotypes about female characters being soft and girly and chasing after boys and what not. Two the Gross Sisters were shown to have moved up out of the hood and decided to pursue a career in music. I know what they say about black people using rap to get out of the hood, but the Gross Sisters waited until they got out of the hood to start rapping. Also after they met Lou Rawls in the original series, he was the one who suggested they should pursue a career in music after they showed they were really talented singers but declined because they felt there were too many CROOKS in the music business. Also the Gross Sisters (or at least Nubia) are actually quite intelligent. they Gross Sisters are business savvy. They formed their own record company and have advanced accounting knowledge for their age. Also they work hard everyday because their parents are tough on them and they instill the importance of having a work ethic which works against another stereotype that black people are lazy. They also know not to cross certain lines as well.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
I see the point you’re making, even though I’ve got my issues with the gross sisters and their designs and whatnot but like some of what you said they were eventually shown to have some good qualities. But I will also say they could’ve showcase them not being “soft and girly” without making them the antagonists/villains of the show too
@Guren94
@Guren94 11 ай бұрын
@@ShaneTheCreative Yeah that is true...
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Some of the artists/animators of Louder & Prouder that I discovered and mentioned in the video: •Phillip Light (Instagram @philliplight - instagram.com/philliplight?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= ) •Umaimah (Instagram @coloured_braids - instagram.com/coloured_braids?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= ) •Eastwood Wong (Instagram @eastwoodwong - instagram.com/eastwoodwong?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= ) Also the link to my video “Our Problematic Fave: The Proud Family” = kzbin.info/www/bejne/foHFf6lsm5Z6qLs
@lionelplayerone
@lionelplayerone Жыл бұрын
Penny's friends are still fake and worse than before in this revival.
@muno8123
@muno8123 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen season 2 yet
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
You def should check it out soon! It’s better than season 1 imo
@muno8123
@muno8123 Жыл бұрын
Michael’s new looks😍
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
He really be serving with every lewk 😌
@tiffanyvalentine8597
@tiffanyvalentine8597 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t care 4 eclair either due to claire being super whiny n Eli reminding me of a school 🔫🔫 but when he pulled up w the horse n carriage for prom I was like how can you hate this man 😂😂😂
@melaniemitchell9419
@melaniemitchell9419 Жыл бұрын
18 minutes in and you haven't said a thing I disagree with yet!
@scottmcneely1927
@scottmcneely1927 Жыл бұрын
Liberty, while annoying, did get plenty of plots and plenty of development.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s why i didn’t focus or discuss her too much in the video, after Lucy from Degrassi JH/High Liberty is the only black female character to get proper main character treatment, even tho a lot of her storylines began to revolved around JT
@illumi9044
@illumi9044 Жыл бұрын
Imagine having the nerve to tag your show Lgbt, after all of that. Smh. They took it down, but still…
@mindofapisces
@mindofapisces Жыл бұрын
I really didn’t care for the Emma and Spinner situation, but after twisting and racking my brain enough, it kiiinnnddaa makes sense. They both been through some traumatic stuff and really value simple things. They both knew each other so they’re comfortable- and don’t like change. So maybe?? I don’t know. It should have been Spemma. 😩
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
The “It kiiiinnnndddaaa makes sense”made me scream 💀😭😭
@scottmcneely1927
@scottmcneely1927 Жыл бұрын
There were hooked up on the show because they were a couple in real life. It was that simple.
@Dreadpoolz3977
@Dreadpoolz3977 Жыл бұрын
At least you got multiple black girls with actual lines after Jimmy/Drake left we had maybe 1 black guy who actually had something to say and he didn't last long.
@nataliachan5904
@nataliachan5904 Жыл бұрын
nah, there was Tiny and Dallas
@dookie69
@dookie69 Жыл бұрын
@@nataliachan5904 also damian,dave,and danny (weird all their names start with d)
@FinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnN
@FinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnN Жыл бұрын
Atleast there was black character there was no Hispanic or native Americans why complain u saw black people I didn’t see none of my people
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
@Kennedy-yy7qo Babe, the show clearly was lacking in actual diversity, including showcasing other POC too. I would’ve loved to have more Hispanic and Native American characters, but you getting mad at me for calling out their lack of care towards black(female) characters isn’t going to help with you getting those other POC characters. Maybe try calling that out, instead taking issue with me calling this out. Also, just having black characters to be the sidekicks of white characters and to stand in the background isn’t something I’m going to be happy and grateful for, we shouldn’t have to settle for the bare minimum when they could easily do more and do better
@FinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnN
@FinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnN 11 ай бұрын
@@ShaneTheCreative there was no white character there Canadian
@pinkish410
@pinkish410 Жыл бұрын
So sad listening to you talk about Grand Army now that it's cancelled. ugh it was so good!
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Yeah imma have to run Netflix a fade for that mess 😤😭
@blackpanda7298
@blackpanda7298 Жыл бұрын
All white writers
@dashaslaughter1655
@dashaslaughter1655 Жыл бұрын
Why are some black people so angry about this stuff? The show was made twenty years ago. The majority in the country, Canada, is the majority of the cast. If you don't like shows with a lot of white people don't watch them. Simple as that.
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
Because it’s blatant racism & anti blackness to have black characters just to appear diverse yet giving them no real character development, proper writing, etc. This is something that’s been an issue within film and television for years now, and 20 years later it’s still an issue. And the most recent version of Degrassi is Next Class which last aired in 2017 which was only 6 years ago, learn how to do math. And there’s plenty of POC Canadians, which includes Black Canadians, which they show clearly showed by casting them but then not bothering to write or progress their characters like white counterparts. And I love Degrassi, I can also critique it and not be bias to ignore blatant reoccurring issues that could easily be fixed and that should be addressed. Now did I answer all your questions in the most simplified way so you can fully understand since you clearly lack sense?
@ShaneTheCreative
@ShaneTheCreative Жыл бұрын
And if your only response to my comment is “I’m not reading all that” then don’t even bother lol. Since you more than likely ain’t want no real answer and just wanted to be loud with your ignorant way of thinking and lack of understanding
@thatguysstuff15
@thatguysstuff15 Жыл бұрын
The closest thing they did was the black girl who was not black . Hasal. A short story line. They skipped the blacks and focused on the Indians . This show suffered from the 90210 no black people in it . Liberty was realy white . Whiter then emma . Why they made emme the number 1 go to girl is beyond me ....she was annoying intill she finally got some balls and stripped for purple dragon . But black girls got mad ignored in degrassi . Was hoping the reboot would have taken place in Africa . So they can focus on the blacks more then the whites . And im white. Degrassi Africa. Step up to 2022 degrassi !!!!!!! ID BE SO DOWN FOR A DEGRASSI AFRICA AND A DEGRASSI NEY YORK !!!!!! WHY DOSE IT HAVE TO STAY IN CANADA ?!?!?!?