what about introskill? should I be leveling those or can I leave them at lvl7?
@jpupper428Сағат бұрын
AND HER NAME IS JON HSINA
@WastedTalent83Сағат бұрын
i do both.. i max everything or lvl what's needed, based on how much i like that character AND if their normal attack do decent damage or are used a lot in their rotation
@charlescarnegie9380Сағат бұрын
i'm in the camp of, if you arn't pulling for dupes, ever bit of DPS counts. i'm in the prossess of leveling all my DPSs skills to level 10. next patch i'll probably focus of my Sub DPSs. then later i'l do my supports. that way, once i know these characters are at 100% (aside from echo min maxing) i can pick and choose who i wanna level between patches. i have almost every 4* at S6 and some do great dmg and are fun to play. I eventually want to get it to be where i am only leveling the new characters and have a very wide roster to have fun with.
@varas29052 сағат бұрын
I disagree. At least for xiangli yao and rover. If u have a good ER stat + right rotation, u should never be inside normal state for both of them. Rover case, if u spend 2 intro on her, + a reso skill, u should have umbra up to max already and while in dark surge stat, everything except liberation scale with forte. In Xiangli Yao case, with enough ER, right rotation with an outtro, an intro + memphis u should be able to ult immediately without downtime, u only benefits the heavy attack u have to weave in somewhere just to activate void thunder set. In both these cases, non of them want to be in normal state because it would be a dps loss. And both of them has their counter strike and basic scale with other stuff rather than basic attack. However, this only apply to rover and xiangli yao. I do not have changli or other dps to voice my opinion about. But seeing changli have to weave in basic a lot to get her stack, it probably worth it? Oh and Jinhsi also another good example, she never wants to be in normal state as she want to get intro skill to activate her celestial set and immediately get into incarnation form. Every attack in her incarnation form scale with her forte (and for the activation of incarnation form, it scale with her reso skill). So, at least for these 3 popular dpses, I see no point in leveling basic as they never uses basic except overworld. Even their intro or outro is worth more than it if u really want to maximize their dmg.
@vinny95003 сағат бұрын
I only level what is needed most, but I do tend to level the basic and intro skills to lv7. With resources being as limited as they are and the higher SOL3 ranks not providing any uplift in those resources, I do not feel it is worth the investment. 1.4 Spoiler below . . . . . However, if a character focuses on basic attacks like Encore or especially Camellya. Then yes I will be maxing her basic attack over her other skills.
@Byrvurra3 сағат бұрын
I give every character I build a 6,7,8,9,10 treatment in terms of skill levels. Highest priority skill gets leveled to 10, lowest 6. Usually basic attack comes in at 7. Eventually I will max them out, once rate at which I desire to acquire new characters slows down. The main bottleneck tends to be weekly boss resources which I have yet to collect any surplus of.
@wildcrown3404 сағат бұрын
Honestly, for solo or duo-only play, yes, basic attacks and dodge counters are very important, more than everything else, especially if the character has a transformation-like ultimate, which often have tight damage windows and long animations (yes, even with Xiangli Yao you have to think twice if you want to attack the Crownless during his rush of attacks). For anything else... nah, it's not necessary, but I would love to see another monk like Jianxin with their damage focused on basic attacks and dodge counters.
@just_play_for_fun25444 сағат бұрын
Were does rover fall in this I am new to the games
@asteriskonline3494Сағат бұрын
Spectro idk🤣 Havoc no. Havoc Rover if you let them receive 2 outro skills (The switch when at full concerto), will always be at her Darksurge state. Her attacks will take her Forte skill multiplier instead of basic. TLDR: Rover doesn't want to lvl basic
@DESOUL30035 сағат бұрын
Just level everything to 10 on the characters you use, you don't need crowns or any extremely limited resources in this game.
@BladeSerphСағат бұрын
Exactly why it’s so much easier to grind on Wuwa because no resources are locked to the days of the week or some time gated event. Which I don’t recall how many resources Genshin gives out at max since I never played it that long but very sure they give FAR LESS, then 9 potential instances of leveling special and talents above 6/10. Which very sure is also due to the fact they limited it to some kind of once per week per each world boss logic and still have another limit on that too alongside both purple and gold tier resources to make it that much more a Hassle to level your favorite units which gets worst if they need resources from the same world boss meaning they get even further delayed as a result without skipping over half the talents to get it done in a single version.
@mcbx3d26 минут бұрын
@@BladeSerph In Genshin you can do the weekly bosses only one per week (you can loot all of then, but only one time) and you gain 2 (in rare cases 3) boss mats, but there is 3 types of item per boss and they are random, so you can get 2 mats that you don't need. They have one item dropped by the weekly bosses too that it's a bit rare to drop that let you change one mat for other of the same boss, but like I said it's a bit rare. To lvl up one talent from 6 to 10 you'll need 6 boss mats, so you'll need at least 3 weeks if you are lucky to drop the mats, and if you want to upgrade all 3 talents it's 18, so with lucky you'll need "only" 9 weeks (one patch have 6 weeks... ). And you'll need one crown per lvl 10, but they give this item a lot and takes a lot of time to build one character so it's an item that prob a lot of people 'll have some in the inventory.
@amehhn5 сағат бұрын
Support characters are an exception right? Like shorekeeper, verina, baizhi, mortefi. They only get a small amount of field time. Or should i also upgrade them after main dps's?
@asteriskonline3494Сағат бұрын
I usually leave their skill at lvl1, because you are mostly after their Outro skill and not their personal damage. But a well built sub DPS like Mortefi will do a lot of damage with Max Liberation.
@DisIngRaM5 сағат бұрын
Ultimately depends on the character and how we want to play them Xiangli Yao, up to 10, because I use him on field. On Challenging content (TOA), his basic attack is almost unused, which might make it a waste. Zhezhi, up to 10, since weaving some basic attack into her rotation is necessary against mobs (Boss can skip), but TOA include mobs. Jihnsi, up to 10, because I got her to S2, and I'm using her for field unit.
@Packirup12346 сағат бұрын
Me who raises all stats to max
@lestercruz40737 сағат бұрын
Oh, I'll be leveling up My Camellya's basic attack, that's for sure.
@asteriskonline3494Сағат бұрын
Breed Breed Breed
@danielw.24567 сағат бұрын
To answer your question at the end. I ALWAYS max EVERYTHING. Once i decide to build a character it irks me to no end not seeing all their skills at 10/10. Sure, i'm building characters at a slower rate due to this, but it makes me happy so i don't mind.
@makeit50085 сағат бұрын
same!!
@mukuro80334 сағат бұрын
respect, same.
@av3_therМинут бұрын
it’s nice because you don’t need to use limited materials to level the talents to 10. like the crowns in genshin :((
@Draighean7 сағат бұрын
I just max it all. Up to 5 seconds difference in tower easily.
@aayushmanchaturvedi37068 сағат бұрын
It definitely depends on the team and rotation If you can get the timing of the skills right during rotation and your ults are completely charged by the end of that You don't need to even consider BA But if everything doesn't fit, and if the main dps spends a lot of time on-field, levelling up BA is a good choice Well, it all boils down to whether you even have the resources anyway, If you have and nobody else wants them, using them doesn't hurt
@mrrejoice80549 сағат бұрын
I only max everything for danjin period
@asteriskonline3494Сағат бұрын
based
@pramanakumalaputra5079 сағат бұрын
Eh, not worth it for Xiangli Yao. First, Xiangli Yao in any team (except solo and duo) whether it's quickswap or hypercarry won't use basic attack at all. In hypercarry, you will start with the buffing then immediately use Xiangli Yao Liberation. From here, all his damage is calculated based on liberation including his dodge counter (you can check Unfathomed in his kit for new dodge counter). So, basic attack doesn't matter because his entire kit will depends on his liberation. Even if you're playing quickswap, you won't use any of his basic attack. The reason is because it's better to use basic attack in his liberation form rather than spending 3 Law of Reigns ASAP. So, basically you're delaying the last Law of Reigns until your ultimate almost finished its cooldown. With this, you will never use Xiangli Yao basic attack outside of his Liberation. For Changli, sure she use it even though it's rare. Intro, Plunge, Res Skill twice will gives her full forte bar already. The problem is it worth it for the weekly material?
@provokegaming175510 сағат бұрын
Already maxed most of my main dps basic attack
@enkei_zerosan10 сағат бұрын
I max level up all forte of my most used characters(dps or not) to get the maximized dmg possible to clear the fastest time in endgame contents
@Eduan_the_King10 сағат бұрын
i use my changli (with her signature) as my dps together with sanhua to buff her basics, thats why iv always lvld up basics on her
@konaownsoyu11 сағат бұрын
very good intake. looking forward for new contents like this.
@AppleGrid13 сағат бұрын
Camellya will be the first limited unit that utilizes basic attack dmg as core multiplier, we don't know if her basic attack will be the source of dmg though
@r.d.629010 сағат бұрын
Zhezhi too (painter girl in glasses)
@claggor10704 сағат бұрын
Zhezhi was the first
@nicksm297615 сағат бұрын
With proper rotations on ToA, with preety much any character, like Changli, Jiyan, Jinhsi, Havoc Rover, Encore, etc, you can just completely ignore their basic attacks and never use them. I only level basic attack on characters I use in the open world.
@oldeyenoughy11 сағат бұрын
true the only place you wanna be doing maximum damage is toa, using yao's basics ain't even a thing you just swap off after ult for next rotation, a skill outside of main damage category will only be beneficial if you need like a 1 second faster clear as they do basically 1% of the total damage anyways in case of yao
@christianjaybermudez64477 сағат бұрын
Won't leveling jiyan's basics make his heavy atk stronger?
@oldeyenoughy7 сағат бұрын
@@christianjaybermudez6447 I think he has separate multiplier on his ult, so when you cast his ult, the ult multipliers for heavy attacks are used, this is how it is for xiangli yao, check the skill description once cuz I am not sure about jiyan
@duytran90866 сағат бұрын
@@christianjaybermudez6447Jiyan's dmg while attacking with ult is based on his ult's level, not from the Normal attack's level
@asteriskonline3494Сағат бұрын
100% summed it up well. Basic IMO are only useful in solo runs, and Dodge counter while it has good multipliers, like Changli having almost 250% dmg at lvl10, it is not worth the resource.
@doedoel03515 сағат бұрын
I would level up basic attacks... If I had any weekly materials! Right now I'm raising like 2-3 Characters from scratch which means I need to allocate 4 weekly materials for skill trees. the remaining 5 would be spent on Liberation, Skill and Forte so yeah, none left for basic (for now).
@VincentLloydM13 сағат бұрын
The struggle is so real
@jocelreloncillo809318 сағат бұрын
i lvl basics to 8. if got spare mata then maxing them is also ok
@Vinsenneth15 сағат бұрын
Yeah I think good stopping points for off damage types is around 6-8 depending on the person. It's kinda crazy how fast you burn through... Well everything.
@arynsinger6811Күн бұрын
Nice analysis! Well explained
@arynsinger6811Күн бұрын
I tend to level up basic attacks when they build stacks more, and also boost energy regeneration with an echo or two if they need that to be more efficient in getting in those big attacks
@Vinsenneth18 сағат бұрын
Thank you I appreciate it! I think Wuwa has the benefit of their forte system which means most characters will utilize their basics. Damage is damage so why not hit a bit harder on the small down times you have when not in your main damage source, you know?
@MagisterialVoyagerКүн бұрын
if it's affordable (less than 50k shell credits per skill) i usually level them up. more damage is always great in many time gated situation!
@VinsennethКүн бұрын
Absolutely. Wish things were cheaper or we got some more shell credits! I feel like if people are still struggling with DPS checks and have followed guides on certain characters, maybe that extra bit of damage from basics could help push them. Damage is damage.
@MagisterialVoyagerКүн бұрын
@@Vinsenneth we're getting that 2 millions Shell Credits from an upcoming event, right? that should help! i love Kuro for giving us that, ahaha.
@N.biebie842810 сағат бұрын
@@MagisterialVoyager so we need to wait for an event to level up our skills now? 2millions is barely enough to level 1 character to 90 with each new banner people hoard all their resources for new character for example Camellya. i do calculation and if i want to build 3-4 character that would took 10million+ shell credit not talking about other resources you need
@N.biebie842810 сағат бұрын
@@MagisterialVoyager 4months into wuwa since launch and i only could fully built Jinhsi with level 10 on every talents + level 90 weapon and good but not perfect echos stats. i'm holding Changli, Zhezhi, Shorekeeper back on Intro and basic attack talent cause i don't have enough resources to level them up and this feeling of waiting for new events so i could get free resources to build my character is not good at all it feels like i got nothing to do while waiting. Farming echo in the open world feel pointless since i don't have echo exp to level them up anyway while using waveplates to farm for echo exp feel like a waste cause you need waveplates for other resources such as Character materials, Talents mats, weapon mats.
@nobletenshi7659Күн бұрын
I tend to max everything, Forte is usually the first I aim for, having the highest. Some of my characters look like this, 7.8.9.8.7. And two characters I have maxed everything is Havoc Rover and Jinhsi.. which is 10 across the board.
@VinsennethКүн бұрын
Yeah as of right now most characters get to around 9 for me. I know it's common too for people to max everything for their favorites. Like I didn't need to level Zhezhi's basics or intro but I did because I love using her.
@VinsennethКүн бұрын
These gauntlets are specific and odd, and that got me thinking about our DPS users and specifically if you should level their basics and by extension their dodge counters? I mean honestly why not right? It's more damage and if you're struggling still with certain things, any advantage helps... As long as you got the materials for it. This video explains why you may want to level up your basic attacks on your DPS units even if your DPS units aren't basic attack centric.
@shirebarkhad5002 сағат бұрын
Im new to the gacha gaming so can u like explain the difference between basic attacks and flat attack on echoes r they the same or different?
@av3_ther2 минут бұрын
@@shirebarkhad500 the basic attack% increases the basic attacks specifically. the flat attack or attack% increases the character’s overall attack, you can see it on the stats list next to them. it increases all types of damage that the character deals
@kyero87242 күн бұрын
You were wrong lol
@VinsennethКүн бұрын
Brother we're not even a year into the game. lol
@doedoel0352 күн бұрын
Are you enjoying Genshin because the game limits your exploration, or do you limit your exploration because you enjoy Genshin?
@doedoel0352 күн бұрын
I might've missed the point of the video, my bad
@FlameHunterZero3 күн бұрын
And why again are you upset? you will pull her, Jiyan or both same as you would have done with her and Shorekeeper.. or am i missing something?
@Vinsenneth2 күн бұрын
It was just the fact that we're impatient and they sort of led us on how they'd release things. I also had some stuff already ready to go and wanted to try things out with her. For me I wanted to also make stuff about her too, but that's a different position than people in CN. I'm well over it now and built up Sanhua.
@doedoel0353 күн бұрын
Oh yeah Vin, I dunno where to write this but I got a suggestion if you're interested in Lore: Now that we know Rover's goal is to end the Lament, does this mean that the chances of Scar and Phrolova being playable is kind of low? In case of PGR, Alpha joined us because she was interested in the commandant that's in charge of the current Lucia (aka her former self) Luna joined us because Gabriel betrayed her and tried to use her in some Corrupted Mecha gizmo, and we helped her. I think Roland joined us because he's loyal to Luna. I kinda forgot; haven't read Evernight Beat. So yeah, unless Scar is either the betrayed or the traitor, I think his chances are dropping
@Vinsenneth2 күн бұрын
Not sure tbh. There's a lot that could happen between now and whenever Scar/Phrolova are talked about more. I think they'll become playable still since there seems to be more to Fractsidus than we know right now. There could be a total shift in what the goals could be for the Fractsidus if the Lament turns out to be more complex than we think, and I say that because of how the Tethys system is occupying a "more harmonious and mild" lament. That description is very different than what we know and see. Makes me think there's more than just destruction. There's still a lot we don't know about it too. For all we know too, Rover could also see eye to eye at some point since of his potential past with the Fractsidus.
@doedoel0354 күн бұрын
WuWa has always find a way to put 2nd phase characters in the stories of the latest patch, Like Xiangli Yao and Youhu. I'm interested how Lumi will fit in 1.4 stories: Will Lumi be granted access to Black Shores? Or are we gonna help her deliver something to her?
@Vinsenneth3 күн бұрын
Yeah they've been doing really good at having them be a part of things. I will say I think Zhezhi wasn't too prominent and thought they could have done a smidge more in 1.2 outside of her quest, but she left an impression because of how awkward and introverted she is.
@VincentLloydM4 күн бұрын
RAT FUCKERS ALL RISE.
@nobletenshi76597 күн бұрын
I understand the power difference between 4star and 5star exactly becaue tis a gacha. They want you to get the 5stars for the most benifits by pulling and spending. I dont really see the 4stars as trash.. As I use Variation for Verina. It works fine.. I started using my battle pass weapon on Yao. Seems decent enough. even if hes 5tar weapon is better. I use Cosmic Rippes on Baizhi, works fine but I could go spend to get shorekeepers weapon for her if I really wanted. So alot of 4stars are passable Sure you ahve some ideas that could imrpove it and thats fine.. But I dont thing its that big of a problem understanding the nature of a gacha. There is some decent 4star alternatives already that work. Its not all bad. Mainly for the f2p to get their hands on.
@Vinsenneth6 күн бұрын
Yeah, I did say in my video the only real widely used set is the ceaseless aria; which Variation is a part of. The good side of things though is that the 5 star weapons in base weapon banner are pretty good for almost all characters so far.
@doedoel0357 күн бұрын
I agree that WW could've took PGR's weapon upgrade system and we won't have any problem. Not only it could add better benefit than our current syntonization system. Adding a simple crit stat and ATK stat (or DEF in case of Amity Accord/Dauntless Evernight) would make the 4 star options a much better alternatives. I agree with the last point too; have it as another option of upgrading weapon instead of replacing Syntonize I'm still on the side that 4 star are decent placeholders and not entirely bad since the Standard 5 star weapon is jack of all trades and all character can use it.
@Vinsenneth6 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'm hoping they can incorporate it even if it's at the crafting table because not many people even craft those weapons. Why waste the resources on them? I agree too that yes, they're good *placeholders* but I want the 4 stars to have main stays as sub ins for characters flexibility sake and weapon diversity. It's probably too early to tell too, but I'm hoping in the near future we can get some good worth while powerful weapons that can be more than just bench warmers for 5 stars! They have a lot they can toy with too to make them not just be like 10% atk or something.
@VincentLloydM7 күн бұрын
Resonance system would defo be cool to see. Add more variety too so it's not just number go up.
@Vinsenneth7 күн бұрын
I've seen some people talk about the 4 star weapons in this game, and I agree with what a lot of them have said. However there were little solutions I heard or remembered, and none of them touched on syntonization. This system is bad or at the very least bland imo, and could be utilized much better and would be a solution that could fix 4 star passives, which is what I have a problem with, while also making 5 star weapons more interesting as well. I say replacement early on, but also realize that this would be more of an add on feature considering people have spent money on weapons for max syntonization. But what do you all think? What other issues do 4 stars have to you, if at all?
@Hydramite9 күн бұрын
Also it canonize queer ships without infighting
@Vinsenneth8 күн бұрын
Also a good point!
@VincentLloydM9 күн бұрын
Imagine we get Wii mote support. That'd actually be sick.
@starhound93549 күн бұрын
this channel is gettin more and more gooner by the day
@Vinsenneth8 күн бұрын
Always has been
@gamerezgazzer275110 күн бұрын
I went from sub 30fps at lowest settings in v1.2 to near consistent 60fps in 1.3, needless to say, the experience is way better
@Vinsenneth9 күн бұрын
That's great to hear. I really haven't heard as many complaining about mobile, so I'm kinda guessing that things have overall gotten better.
@amplifire-10 күн бұрын
this guy is absolutely disgusting and repulsive. How dare you not react to the JP version instead?
@onlineresident217410 күн бұрын
My phone can finally run Wuwa. I still lag a lot in coop but at least it's playable. I missed my girl Zhezhi once, not again.
@Vinsenneth9 күн бұрын
Hope you can get her next time around! One of my favorite units
@kailet199710 күн бұрын
IM SO HAPPY I hope the fandom grows, and with it more fanarts, fanfics, generally just more content outside the official, that would boost them even more!!
@lordliborius10 күн бұрын
Thanks for making me laugh. Now time to go back to the "End of Wandering" and cry..
@NATM-hq1bm11 күн бұрын
that loli is peak glacio characther since forte gives you random funny attack but also heals you