"Let's make The Christmas Carol but GRIMDARK" -The director, basically.

Well, John Cameron Micheal came out as non binary so the film is no longer created by two cis guys 16:23

Peanuts? Yes, I have one right here. It's bulky, but I consider it carry-on.

Dark as Fuk...😮

Wow, just wow. I came here to see if you could change my resentment towards Charlie, and you did a bang-up job. I now see him as a spire of hope, light, and belief. Not as a man of inhibition and no ambition. But an inspiration to us all. ❤

Great video I used to have the tribute to Charles Schultz day after he passed most every comic strip had a tribute only a few didnt 😢

It was interesting take but they took the dark edginess way too far. It's interesting enough to have a tale told from Marley and the ghosts' perspectives. I'd appreciate just that over making Scrooge a molester and the Cratchits a dismal family of assholes

I loved it

Thank you for this.

I bought this version and I watch it every Xmas. It conveys Dickens’ concerns into the 21st century, and Guy Pearce inflects the character with more depth than I have encountered elsewhere. I concede that it is more transatlantic in its tone, but we are in a big world that needs this message of hope and humanity.

Might've gone down better as a original story inspired by A Christmas Carol than a literal Christmas Carol adaptation That being said however I do think a more Gothic Horror approach to the story can work. If you want an adaptation that is close to that and is done well, watch the Jim Carrey Disney Adaptation which goes for a darker tone but still maintains the heartwarming Christmas spirit story we all know and love.

This deserves a super-like. Well-researched, well-written, and fantastically executed.

This version is like what would happen if the other Charles Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol. You know, the Charles Dickens who wrote Bleak House?

Its like if a edgelord with isdues, wrote a Fanfic just to be edgy

This guy caused my trans awakening. It's good to see he is ok!

Hard disagree on this being bad. Its my favorite version. The original scrooge is not inheritently bad, just lost his way. This one asks "can a truly evil person change?" And it also delves into the nature of change that it is not an instant that you become good or evil, which is a more realistic take. Its gritty, and well written, and explores the psychology of Scrooge as someone with no conscience or who has lost his heart in far more depth.

I watched this when it aired in the US during a self made marathon of every adaptation I could find for 12 days until the 25th. It was the absolute low point. I almost jumped ahead to do Muppets early as the emergency big guns to force myself to feel joy again. The one thing that could have saved it was to follow through with its own themes and change the ending. Have Scrooge choose to die to spare Tiny Tim or something. Know that he will die unloved and Unforgiven by anyone who knew him. But the sacrifice is not to be rewarded with love, and he accepts his fate to die the way he does. I’m not saying that change would have made the adaptation is enjoyable, but it would have made it more intellectually coherent internal to its own themes. On the whole, I find the defenses of this adaptation rest on the usual conflation of dark with smart, morose with mature, joyless with serious. Those things are not correlated one way or the other. The joy of a Christmas Carol is grounded and realistic once you’re past the supernatural elements that are here too, it’s the simple joy of human connection and sharing love. There is nothing unrealistic or cartoonish about that. This version ponders the question of whether Scrooge deserves forgiveness, but to do that it had to make him exponentially WORSE than he was in the book. Which in turn defeats the point of the lesson the audience. You elevate the severity of Scrooge’s sins and we can no longer see ourselves in those sins. The lesson stops applying the audience. Scrooge’s fundamental sin in the original text is apathy. It is the simple loss of empathy for his fellow man which feeds a cycle of isolation and depression that will kill him as he fails to take care of himself, and kill those he could have helped but is also neglecting. Making him ACTIVELY malicious, so you can question whether he deserves to be forgiven, misses the point!

I want to see an adaptation of Christmas Carol where we don't actually get to see the Future ghost! We just Birdbox-it, and go off of Scrooge's unnerved reactions. Probably not POV, because thay can get goofy if done badly.

I'm demisexual. So on the ace spectrum. It is beyond aggravating and belittling that I have to explain myself over and over again ad nauseum that YES. I'm capable of sexual attraction, but it's far less important to me than the bond itself and I'm happy as long as sex isn't a pressure or obligation. I will give it when I'm ready. I have other reasons to need that space, but point is there's nothing WRONG. I'm not repulsed by you if I say I love you but just can't do THAT right now. On the flip side, demisexuality can also get you crass labels. I've been with most of my closest friends because that bond exists and I can maintain friendships with almost all my exes because we were close before and just took an extra step. I don't understand why people have to think in such shallow terms. Sex or no sex, it doesn't MATTER. Do you, and if that's shallow hookup culture, not my business. But that doesn't make you an expert on the right way to conduct someone else's relationships.

I remembered back when this first aired, there was pushback on Twitter, and the episode's writer argued something along the lines of "House wasn't proving ace wasn't real, just in THIS PARTICULAR CASE ..." it rang hollow then and still does now.

I honestly loved this adaptation. It most definitely is the coldest and darkest version out there, but that’s the point. The characters in this one were more “real” than any other adaptation, and were very multi dimensional. This version also did something that no other adaptation has done, and that’s bring tears to my eyes; Lottie rescuing Scrooge on Christmas, and him not learning about the gravity of the situation till decades later was both beautiful and sad at the same time. This version does have its shortcomings though. The second half being rush, and not being as fleshed out at the first half bothered me. I felt like adding 30 minutes to the run time would’ve allowed for better pacing with the back half. The end being left open for a sequel annoyed me too. I understand why some people might not like this adaptation, but you gotta remember to go in with a very open mind if you’re watching it for the first time.

Not awful. Not all representation is or has to be positive. Didn’t “disprove” anything, just cured a tumour and called out someone’s lie. Show is not about sexuality, it’s about doctors and zebras.

I wish I loved this or hated this more, but I want to love it. I love a darker visual style, I loved the brief scene of Marley in Purgatory, I love the idea of having Lottie being the Ghost of Christmas present (Guy Pearces delivery of "I should have loved you more" was genuinely heartbreaking) and I love how Scrooge is very obviously coded as neurodivergent. But while I like a darker aesthetic, I feel that this adaptation loses all the heart of the original. We drag out the first two staves and then rush through the final three, and we are robbed of seeing Scrooge redeemed. I like this film more than I dislike it. I'd give it a 6.5 out of 10.

It’s really not that bad.

I was a big fan of Peanuts as a child, and had some of the paperback collections. I have always remembered one strip in particular that I related to very much, although I didn't realize it until adulthood. Sally is freaking out about attending her very first day of school, telling Charlie Brown that she doesn't know who won the battle of such and such, what 3x18 is, how to conjugate a verb, etc. Charlie tells Sally very kindly that she's *not expected* to know all these things yet, because school is meant to teach her. I now realize that I remembered that specific strip because as a child, my mother expected me to know many things without having been taught. I was constantly being screamed at and punished, because of violating rules and expectations I had no idea existed. She acted as if I were supposed to have been born a full grown adult. I guess this was the first time anyone had ever told me it's ok to not know things until you are taught them. I've searched for this particular strip online but have never found it.

Wait. Why are your nails painted?😂

As someone whos very sex positive, the very idea of being acephobic just frustrates me. Like "Oh no, a person who doesn't care for sex! The horror!" What a crime of "Not having much/if any sex". So...perverse?

You’ve only managed to sell me on this. Odd choices here and there, sure, but you've mostly wasted both your time and energy.

The way they make fun of Charlie Brown’s head reminds me of Dib Membrane

Charlie brown is an outlet for Charles Shultz own self hatred.

I absolutely LOVE this film; I think its brilliantly crafted. Though I am also not close to the original story its an adaptation of, so It was cool to hear other thoughts and words. Merry Christmas yall

This “man” fucking painted his nails. I had a feeling this was gonna be a shit video going into it but my god you outdid yourself

Overall this actually was a good take on the Christmas Carol up until one exact moment. After that exact moment, it became a bit of nonsense. That moment was that Mary Cratchit had magical powers and was the one that summoned the spirits. So, if she was such a powerful witch, why was not able to help her son with her witch powers ? If this one part was let out, it would have been a good all around.

Here we go. Stereotyping tomboy characters into being a lesbian. You are part of the problem.

I like it

I once thought that imagining Charlie Brown as an adult would be horrifying. Then I grew up and I don't have to imagine it.

Lucy was pure evil to him. I don't care what issues she had, she's toxic.

To each their own, I suppose. This is, hands down, my absolute favorite version so far. Scrooged has now been bumped to a very close 2nd, with Mickey's now 3rd. Personally, I'm still down to watch literally any version at almost any time of year. Then again, I'm the odd type that tends to go into most experiences genuinely wanting to like them. Perhaps it's a conscious rebellion against decades of being a purist with literature, music, and film, to the extent that my greatest pleasure used to be explaining to people why they were wrong for liking the things I didn't.

My absolute favorite Christmas Story of all time. This movie is probably the best adaptation of Sacred Stories and biblical symbols. This wins hands down. I’ve watched it every year and see new invites and treasures. Filled with the condition of the human soul. If you have read and treasure Dostoevsky YOU will treasure this movie.

The Charlie Brown paperbacks I bought for a quarter at the used book store when I was a kid in the 1970s now cost $10 on E.

It is kind of ironic how this liberal inspired story about a highly liberal period In history winds up being more of an advertisement for conservative values than anything else. I mean one of the protagonists wants to get out while the getting's good and settle down, well the other prefers to keep her heads in the clouds and winds up getting stuck with the Nazis.

Mannn I don't know what I am, but these words, these explanations make me feel so good, so refreshing, so calm. Thank you very much. I wish to learn more about sexuality and myself. ❤

This version is definitely my favorite. I’ve watched it 3 times already this year. While the others go on telling the original Dickens story to a “T” and we know every single line before the characters speak it, we finally have something different. It’s a fictional story in the first place. Why not have more fictional liberty with it? If Kermit can morph into a clerk and have frog boys and pig girls for children, then it’s totally believable that Ebenezer dealt with plenty of childhood trauma that Dickens didn’t have the guts to write about or simply couldn’t include in the original short story. The casting is perfect in this one. The script is finally something new. The cinematography alone is worthy of praise. I’ll be watching it every year and I’ve left behind almost all the others to collect dust.

1:44:35 Well, Charles Shultz is in, The N.H.L. Hall of fame (in the builders category)!!

1:43:55 I'm waiting for the sequel. It has Aerosmith on One side of a wall and Run D.M.C. on the other! Will they get together???

Forget Women in sports, (not as big an issue today). I'm more surprised that Peppermint has a British accent??

THE DARK TRUTH OF PEANUTS. They make it tough for me to breathe and I break-out in hives.

This unironically inspired me to do a webcomic type thing based on the concept of a bunch of people in a limbo afterlife between heaven and hell and kinda just okay with doing that forever

brother, do you know the term WTFromantic? it is also called quoiromantic nowadays

Recently watched sherlock from bbc, and like everyone headcanons sherlock as gay!! I don't see it!! He's so aroace !!