Sure! The Brompton G Line blows the Zizzo away. The G Line has a longer wheelbase, smoother internal gearing system, hydraulic disc brakes, and a much smaller and tighter fold. The quality of the G Line's parts and components is so much higher than the Zizzo's. No way the Zizzo could handle a pump track like this... kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip_dcmqDrMhsn7s

Hi there! I can answer those questions... 1. Our Bromptons are what's now called the C Line model, but we got them sooooo long ago (2013) that back then they were called S6R (straight handlebars + 6-speeds + rack). 2. The Brompton is not quite small enough to be a carry-on, so we always check them as regular luggage. We wrote a whole blog post about how we packed and flew our Bromptons to Mexico! bromptoning.com/traveling-adventures/packing-the-bromptons-for-mexico/ Hope that satisfies your curiosity!

@@bromptoning Thank you so much! This gives me an idea of logistics with travelling with a Brompton (I don't own one...yet). I am particularly impressed with how lightly you packed! I'm guessing, three of each (tops, bottoms, undies)?

@@derkapellmeister Bottoms yes, but more tops and undies, like 6 each. Women's clothes pack up pretty small, especially clothing for hot weather. Pier's bag is always stuffed more than mine since his clothes are just bigger! 😆

@ Menswear have that peculiarity, indeed! Thank you!

Merry Christmas to you too!

You're welcome! Spreading good vibes is what this ride is all about!

@@bromptoning Now that I see your opening shot again was that you guys I talked to Thursday evening on Queen East? (If so, sorry I didn't recognize you from the year one parade - and nice talking with you.)

@@MichaelHolloway This Thursday evening? That wasn't us. Do we have some doppelgängers in town?

@@bromptoning must be :) Happy Holidays!

Thank you so much! Merry Christmas to you too! 🎄🎅

If it folds like a Brompton, it's a Brompton! I have a Tern as well, and though it has the same 20" tires as the G Line, the Tern's fold is HUGE and the Tern doesn't even roll while folded. Yes, the G Line folded is bigger than the Brompton C Line folded, but no matter the size, the Brompton folds so much better than a Tern.

Accurate! Except the weight of a steel Brompton is only 24lbs. Yep, it's pretty light.

@@bromptoning I just watched a video that weighed a Brompton at 29 lbs.

We agree! Toronto is often underrated despite its beautiful and fun places!

☺ It was our pleasure!

Thanks! We didn't find the G Line faster than our Bromptons, but note that we both have 54t chainrings and 6-speeds on them, so we're used to going faster than standard Brompton bicycles. If you're used to the 50t chainring, or the 44t chainring, you may find the G Line is faster. The G Line's Shimano 8-speed internal hub does shift nice and smooth, though!

The Brompton dealer in Cologne is so nice! But yes, Europe has the G Line RIGHT NOW (lucky you guys!), but it won't be available in North America until 2025. Pedaal's co-owner was able to get this G Line because he's British and bought one over there. But Pedaal is taking preorders and the G Lines will officially arrive in their store in Toronto in April 2025.

@@bromptoning I'm not British but was in London on 10-October and brought one back to the USA. Love the bike and thanks for sharing.

@@bluecalvette Congrats on your new G Line! Have fun!

Good question! For me (I'm 5'4"), the regular seemed to come too far past my hands. The cape should cover your hands, but you want your hands to be where the loops are. The short length still completely covers my legs when I'm cycling.

Huh. I just learned there is a big debate whether to say "U.P." or "up". No surprise, no one can agree. In real life, I've only ever heard "U.P. Express" so 🤷

Checking the Bromptons in as luggage is a little different every time. Sometimes, no one bats an eye, they just check us in and away the bike goes. Often then direct us to the Fragile/Oversized conveyer belt (no extra fee), but not always. This time we were sent to Oversized, but the people working there made us unpack the Bromptons and show us what they were. So that was a first! But the bikes made it to New York without issue. 👍

It was so much fun! Even with the rain we go this year. ☔

Actually, local businesses love the bike lanes because they bring MORE customers. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHOpl3eAqbl8d5Ysi=krhfh3Uz0-WTkqmF

@bromptoning “Protected bike lanes do not guarantee safer streets, but it will mean a loss of business,” Gary O’Neill, owner of the Aubergine Cafe on Skillman BUSINESS OWNERS overwhelmingly complain about this obvious fact. Only far left socialists and liberal elites want businesses to suffer for the sake of underused bicycle lanes. You're spreading lies and propaganda to line your pocket with money. How long have you sold luxury bicycles for? RIP THEM OUT DOUGGIE!!! #VotePC

Sure were, and they were just starting. 🍂

The lanes are used. The City of Toronto has data on the thousands of cyclists who bike on Bloor Street. Ford is spreading lies to pander to drivers who want to blame someone else for the traffic. But cars ARE traffic. The only way to improve traffic is to have less cars on the road, and the only way to have less cars on the road is to give people other modes of transportation.

@bromptoning Wrong. Removing lanes for vehicles and designating them for bicycles is literally making gridlock worse in the city. My community has petitioned heavily for the removal of bike lanes and Doug Ford has listened. I have voted Liberal my whole life and I'm now switching to the PC Party. Cyclists have become brash, pompous, and ignorant. You were given an inch and you all lied your way to seizing a mile. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Doug will get another majority and you will lose EVERYTHING.

@@leflopjames5628 I'm not wrong. Here's a video explaining induced demand: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmWnn2Skn918m5Y This isn't a new concept; urban planners have know about this problem for a while, which is why they are trying to offer people other methods of transportation, such as cycling and transit.

@bromptoning You are definitely WRONG. Cycling lanes are virtually unused. Taking lanes from drivers and putting in severely underused bike lanes is a disgrace. SHAME ON YOU. Bloor West and Etobicoke has been terrorized by seldom used bike lanes causing vehicular gridlock. Seniors and the disabled can't access High Park. Bloor Street businesses have lost all drive up/park customers. I drive that route everyday and I DO NOT SEE CYCLISTS IN THE BIKE LANE. You don't care at all about Toronto, you're just pushing a juvenile and selfish agenda. DOUG FORD WILL RIP THEM OUT!!! 😆

Can't argue with crazy. 🤷

Thanks @fulvio.silvestri And our table is a Madera model made by Article.

You can lower the seat. I like my seat high so that my legs can fully extend when pedalling. Some people like the seat lower, and it can definitely go lower that where I've set it. The Strida EVO weighs about 12kgs. So pretty light.

True! This wasn't a pub crawl, though if we had lederhosen, we'd definitely wear it! Maybe something to source for next year's BrompTOberfest ride. 😄

@aedamhaeng woke liberal elites destroying local businesses and causing traffic chaos for the sake of shilling overpriced bicycles. What a disgusting and self serving cohort of society.

I'm 163cm tall.

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@@chanal910 I am. The Strida is tricky to ride - the narrow wheel base and small tires make it twitchy, but once you get used to it, it's fun.

I've heard the copycat Stridas are horrible! The belt drive should feel light and barely there - at least that's how mine is. Though I image being a tall person on a Strida, whether authentic or copycat, might not be the best fit.

Exactly! Different bikes for different reasons. But no matter what, they're a great mobility device. 😃

Thanks! And my Brompton is currently gathering a bit of dust too - I broke my hand in late May. I'm now riding my Tern because the hydraulic disc brakes are so much easier to depress with my weak, injured hand, but soon I hope to have strength enough to ride the Brompton with its caliper brakes. Hope you're back in the saddle soon as well!

100%! Compact travel is the Brompton's big advantage.

There is a road to the summit, and I imagine you could bike up too if you wanted to! You can definitely hike the summit; we saw people doing that.

Have an amazing time!

@@bromptoning oh yes thank you. I'm here now, my third day. Did the Petit Train Route, The Lachine canal, inner city trails, LaSalle to LaRonde. I look like a lobster...lol I much prefer the fall...tomorrow light rain!

Yes, I am wearing a folding helmet! It's a Closca. :)

Love the loop de loops! Fun to ride, and best of all, the loops avoid traffic intersections so we never have to interact with cars or wait for lights to change.

Thanks! We just plugged our GPX data into the Relive app and the app creates it!