009 Quarry Hunslet 'Britomart' Review - Bachmann Narrow Gauge!

[@JohnDavies-cn3ro]

Several of my friends in the OO9 Society have brought these engines to our monthly track nights, and they really are lovely little things - and very, very tempting. The fact they run so well out of the box is impressive, and positive. As an aside, the Quarry Hunslets could well have been the original inspiration for Rowland Emmett's 'Nellie' - if you look at the early drawings, you're clearly looking at a Penrhyn Hunslet. And can I say that your layout is lovely to see - like it very much.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Hi John, I can definitely seen the similarities there even with a fantastical sense! Glad you like the layout too, I actually did a whole series of videos where I documented the build process from start to finish. Thanks for watching 😃

[@bryantan863]

This new Quarry Hunslet locomotive is an extremely beautiful looking model and there are multiple variations of this particular model from Bachmann to choose.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yep, like I mentioned in the video there's also the open cab versions of this loco too. Bachmann have also announced/released the Mainline Hunslets recently as well, which look very good! Thanks for watching 😃

[@tagsdm]

Very nice review of this iconic loco. Level of detailing seems outstanding, especially considering its microscopic size. Though the starting and stopping speeds are high, while running around the layout it looks pretty good to me. It must be difficult stuffing a decent motor and gearing inside that tiny boiler. Great job to all.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yes I think it's a coreless motor which is how it can be so small. Not sure if that has anything to do with the running but it does look good on the layout. Fingers crossed I'll be able to get it sorted. Thanks for watching 😃

[@Legomastr365]

Great review! I just bought Nesta (thought I pre-ordered it before it came out, turns out I didn't lol) and I'm excited to get it soon! I do hope the running speed was just a one off fluke because it doesn't look too great taking off like a car from the platform. Definitely a wonderful model and I'm so excited to see what other manufacturers have in store for OO9!

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yeah I certainly hope the speed can be improved on mine as it's such a good looking loco. Bachmann definitely are flying the narrow gauge flag at the moment but PECO are definitely dipping their toes in the water more and Model Rail are supposedly making the Rheidol locos in 009 too. Thanks for watching 😃

[@SteamLance]

I love quarry Hunslets, I volunteer on the footplate at the Bala Lake Railway. I'd definitely suggest adding the wooden toolbox on the tank, as the Pen-yr-Orsedd examples had them in service and Britomart carries her's still (along with a tiny navy steam siren)

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Ah fantastic, I love the Bala Lake Railway! Yes Britomart will definitely be getting the details added to her once I've sorted out the running issues. Thanks for watching 😃

[@TheGreatWesternGuy]

What a little beauty! I just wish I had the funds to add something like this to my layout! Great video! Thanks for sharing!

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Knowing Bachmann they may well be around for a while (if the Baldwins and the Double Fairlies are anything to go by) so you could always keep an eye on them for the future 😉 Thanks for watching 👍

[@infinity6450]

I saw a Bachmann open cab Hunslet in black with red, white and blue lining. It looked really handsome, and I think it would make a great addition to your fleet. Also, Britomart could be Godfod Tynn's express engine.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Ah yes that must have been Nesta. If I do get an open cab version I think that's the one I'd go for. Britomart has certainly got the speed for an express engine, it's definitely outpacing the Double Fairlies at the moment! Thanks for watching 😃

[@Adamcantdrift]

I just finaly got one this morning and I new it would be small but it didn’t realise how small they actuley are 😄

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

They really are tiny! The open cab versions are even smaller 😅 Thanks for watching 👍

[@Adamcantdrift]

@@ThatModelRailwayGuyno Problem Great video

[@mandbhomestead]

Great video, I really love the steam engines. Looks great on the 009 layout. Thanks for sharing and stay safe. Ken

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Thanks Ken, it does look great running on Gofod Tynn! Thanks for watching 😃

[@JimmyProductions]

I just found out about the Bachmann Quary Hunslet. And they're out of stock and not being sold :/

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

The current batch has been out a while now so is most likely sold out most places. But because they've been so popular I would imagine Bachmann are working on releasing another batch as soon as they can. Thanks for watching 👍

[@michaelwhiles5282]

Very tasty on a dull damp day, was due to visit SVR today - the weather is putting me off ! Thanks again ☀️

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Ah that's a shame, but glad you were able to enjoy this video instead! Thanks for watching 😃

[@Abbojnr]

It certainly is gorgeous, I went into a model shop near me to see about a different 009 release and ended up walking away with this lovely loco as my original search wasnt in store, soon though,

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

That'll happen with 009 locos 😅 That's how I ended up with a couple of Double Fairlies too! Thanks for watching 👍

[@Rheilffordd]

Excellent review! I am presently waiting on mine to be delivered to Australia. Looking forward to that and Dorothea!

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Awesome, hope they get to you safe and sound! Thanks for watching 😃

[@bentullett6068]

I need to get one of these. Heres a idea. Now there are these smaller DCC decoders out there I wonder if retrofitting the basic Hornby 0-4-0 models will be a lot better now especially with their tight spaces inside them?

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

I have to admit I didn't find hardwiring a decoder into a Hornby 0-4-0 all that challenging when I did it with a standard size 8 Pin. I even had enough space left over to fit in a firebox LED and a smoke generator. Thanks for watching 😃

[@chaoticgoose4887]

Very nice review!! Just to add one point, from what I know the doors on the back are mainly to aid the fireman in spreading the coal evenly around the firebox as large long fire irons don't fit properly in the cab. Locos like Corries No.7 have a similar opening for the same reason.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Ah that makes sense, thanks for the clarification! Funny, I hadn't even considered that the cab would be too small to use a fire iron properly. Thanks for watching 😃

[@derekloudon8731]

What a gorgeous little loco! Such a pity about the lack of slow speed running, I am looking forward to seeing it on DCC to see if there’s any improvement.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yes the slow speed is a shame but I've got some other ideas as well as fitting it for DCC which I might try. I just don't want to mess around with it too much if it turns out to be a bigger problem though! Thanks for watching 😃

[@worthingtonmodelrailway8628]

The DCC fitted Mainline Hunslets don’t have this issue . Hopefully DCC fitting will fix! I’m still waiting for my Quarry’s to arrive here in US.

[@Fluff3H]

my assumption to it struggling at low speeds before taking off might be due to its lack of weight, being so small of course. some 0-4-0s have that issue at 00 Gauge and you compare them to the Peckett W4s which, mechanically are essentially the same but they weigh a good bit more for the size and have plenty of low end torque and control.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yes that may be the case. I believe the saddle tank is metal (it's certainly cold to the touch) but it's still fairly light so it may just be it's not contacting the rails enough. The Pecketts are certainly enormous compared to this. Thanks for watching 😃

[@willbreckinridge8010]

Such a nice little engine. I've seen so many people getting so hyped over them lately and I can definitely see why! :)

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

They're definitely really nice little models! I can certainly see a lot of people starting 009 layouts because of them. Thanks for watching 😃

[@georgecowley3972]

Hey, absolutely love it as always 👍, I’m looking to get into 009 and I was wondering if you could do reviews on more of your rolling stock and maybe even track and things like that. It would be great to get some more insight into the details. Keep up the great work, George

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Hi George, have you seen the whole 009 series I did where I built a layout from scratch? That covers everything like track and scenery. As for rolling stock, mine is a mixture of PECO RTR and kit built items which I have some tutorials planned on for the future. Thanks for watching 😃

[@benstrainsandthings]

I love how deatailed the cab is!

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Just wait til you see the open cab versions! Thanks for watching 😃

[@rottenroads1982]

Gofod Tynn is a very nice layout. Small and compact. One day, However, I would like to see a Much Bigger OO9 scale layout to be built. One that demonstrates the hard working conditions Welsh Narrow Gauge Engines went through in large Slate Quarries. I, being a Thomas Fan, made my own OC's, and one day, when I start modeling, hopefully, I will recreate most of my OC's in OO & OO9 scale.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

As nice as it would be to have a large 009 layout, unlike a lot of other model railway KZbinrs, I just don't have the loft/shed space or a dedicated room for large layouts. That's why everything I build tends to be fairly compact. Even the 00 gauge layout I'm currently building is modular in design since it I don't have the space to have it setup all the time. Awesome, best of luck with creating your characters - it's always great to see the different types of creativity this hobby brings out! Thanks for watching 😃

[@larrpeninger]

Just a quick question I watch from the states will you ship over seas? BTW I think the videos are great. Especially love the Gofod Tynn series. I want it downloaded.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Hi there, I don't sell anything I just review the models so you'd have to ask individual retailers about that. Glad you enjoyed the 009 series though. Thanks for watching 😃

[@Ensign_Redshirt]

Random question, on Gofod Tynn, how high are the tunnel entrances? Your portals are wonderfully tight

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Roughly 45-50mm. I actually had trouble with the kit built coaches originally being too tall for them so the height had to be reduced! Thanks for watching 😃

[@dkearsley]

Great review, certainly a great loco with incredible detail. It's slow speed running does improve but it needs a lot of running in before it becomes more responsive at slower speeds.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Glad you enjoyed it David. At the time of filming this model had been run in for an hour in each direction. I may keep trying that but I'm curious to see if a decoder does make any difference since that has made a difference in the past. Thanks for watching 😃

[@mitchellwhittington2507]

That looks like an awesome engine! Hope to get one someday. Bachmann USA is gonna release Talyllyn, which I believe is re-colored from their Skarloey tooling. It's ready for pre-order. Are you gonna review it when it comes out?

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Hi Mitchell, not sure about Talyllyn yet. As much as I'd like one I think the slightly longer wheelbase means it would struggle to get round Gofod Tynn. I'd like to build a more substantial 009 layout in the future but I'm not sure I can justify buying locos I can't actually run at the moment. Thanks for watching 😃

[@Jack-jh2to]

Is this still available for purchase anywhere?

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

I don't think so, they were very popular when they first came out. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Bachmann were planning another batch at some point. Thanks for watching 😃

[@loispadgett6306]

Beautiful little engine but yes the speed is fast. Hope with decoder in you can slow it down. Would love to see the open cab version of this engine. So glad you shared it with us. GOD BLESS 🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yes definitely a good looking engine and I really do hope I can sort the speed out. I think an open cabbed version will be joining Britomart very soon! Thanks for watching 😃

[@jamesfrancis7025]

Embarrassingly I still need to unbox mine after owning it for over a month! Really motivated to get mine out and running now after seeing your video

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Haha, yes definitely get it out for a run! It's great to see them running round! Thanks for watching 😃

[@adam_fordham]

A great little loco I think, I like the colour and the gearing on the wheels, very impressed but hopefully it will run better in time 😀

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yes fingers crossed it will get better as it would be great to do some shunting with this loco in the future. Thanks for watching 😃

[@Adamcantdrift]

I’ve been saving up for so long for one of these and when I when to get one they were sold out in the only place in my small country very sad for me 😢

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Oh no! Sorry to hear that Adam. Maybe next time you can ask the shop if they can reserve one for you. Fingers crossed Bachmann will be making more of these models as they do seem to have been popular. Thanks for watching 😃

[@Adamcantdrift]

@@ThatModelRailwayGuythanks for advice

[@Scotsman-hs6ss]

I think you should review the open cap hunslets and personally I hope Bachman’s next 009 loco is a garret

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

I definitely think a review of the open cab version is on the cards! Bachmann have recently announced/released the Mainline Hunslets so I suspect their next 009 announcement will be those in their current condition at the Ffestiniog Railway... but I would love to see a Garret too! Thanks for watching 😃

[@markfryer9880]

I suspect that the slow speed range will improve once the loco has been run in more and components have had to time to settle in together.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Fingers crossed that's the case. It had an hour running in each direction before the video was filmed but maybe it just needs more. Thanks for watching 😃

[@stephensullivan2364]

Strongly suggest you need to run the loco in thoroughly before assessing it for slow speed running. I'm having no difficulty with mine.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Hi Stephen, the loco was run in for an hour in each direction before filming the review. Thanks for watching 😃

[@stephensullivan2364]

How about your controller, then? I' run mine with a Gaugemaster W. Might be worth experimenting.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

@@stephensullivan2364 This was running on a Gaugemaster Model D.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Would love to see a review of an open cab

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Stay tuned 😉 Thanks for watching 👍

[@ianroper1960]

Nice video. I have one of these and am very pleased to say the slow running on mine is very good. I ordered mine four years ago when they were first announced. The wait has been well worth it

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Excellent! Glad to hear yours runs better that mine Ian. I know, I've had my eye on these since they were announced too, it's pretty much what got me interested in 009. Thanks for watching 🤩

[@macnavi]

You can fit a Doehler & Haass PD05A-4 decoder. I tried to give you a link to the Tramfabriek, who have them in stock, but my post was immediately deleted.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Ah brilliant, thanks for sharing! I'd just found an ESU decoder that I thought would fit too but I'm definitely going to check out the PD05A-4. No worries about the link, I know his website. KZbin just considers anything with a link spam these days, it happens to me sometimes too when I try to share a link to something I've used in a video 😅 Thanks for watching 👍

[@macnavi]

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Don't use ESU decoders with coreless motors. I've spent months making it work, but it's horrible. If you look around on the Net, you'll find more people advising against ESU with coreless. Above speed step 7 it is OK, but below, I believe they are just not compatible.

[@toyotaprius79]

Great. Now I have a new obsession....

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

I don't blame you! The announcement of these was pretty much what got me into 009 in the first place. Thanks for watching 😃

[@maxsine68]

just a small side question is h0e the same size 009

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yes and no.I believe h0e is the narrow gauge scale for H0 while 009 is the equivalent for 00 Gauge. That said, 009 is a bit of a hybrid as it brings all UK narrow gauge locos under one umbrella. In reality the locos from the Ffestiniog and Talyllyn (for example) couldn't run together because of different track gauges. Also Bachmann released it's Skarloey engines in the Thomas range as h0e scale but the vast majority of modellers in the UK here consider them close enough for 009 layouts so I think it's easier to get away with mixing the two scales than it is for H0 and 00. Hope that makes sense and thanks for watching 😃

[@bluebellModelrailway]

Lovely model, saw the prototypes some time ago, the running is odd, I've played with one never experienced it can depend on controllers, and potentiometer values, some do have dead spots which looks like it may be the issue and some of these coreless motors can be a bit fussy. The DCC chip issue is world wide due to the chips used to make them... also a problem in the computer industry.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yeah I've had locos from Bachmann in the past that were truly terrible at slow running on DC but once fitted with a decoder they were transformed so I'm hoping it'll be as simple as that. Yep I've got a lot of locos awaiting decoders at the moment, I actually have a few 6 Pins hanging around but alas they're all too big for this tiny loco. Thanks for watching 😃

[@bluebellModelrailway]

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Oddly I've never had that on DC with a decent high end controller, the low end ones or ones where the pots are cheap they have a dead zone.. DCC as it's digitally increased and not decided by pot as it's a digital stepped speed increase... I would say it's a controller. The chip issue will go on for some time it's been the situation for almost a year.. so I expect DCC modellers will struggle to find chips in the near future.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

@@bluebellModelrailway I'm using a Gaugemaster Model D and generally I find it's smaller locos that occasionally have trouble. My Bachmann 1F was the same, awful on DC but runs beautifully now there's a decoder in it. As for decoders, I generally use Zimo and stocks of those are pretty much back to normal now unless you're looking for something really specific like the tiny micro decoders or a certain sound decoder.

[@chrissouthgate4554]

What happened to the buffers?

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Most 009/narrow gauge locos just have the centre buffer. I believe some of the earlier Quarry Hunslets had dumb buffers so that might be what the cutouts on the beam are for. Thanks for watching 😃

[@fredtedstedman]

delightful engine !

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Isn't it just! Thanks for watching 😃

[@ewoodrailway]

Really good

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 😃

[@davidsheriff8989]

Did you run it in?

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yes, it's a good idea to run all new models in before putting them through their paces. Thanks for watching 👍

[@pauljonnson1181]

Nice engine

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

It is, isn't it! Thanks for watching 😃

[@anthonywaitzman4632]

Hi I have both please do an open cab review

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

I think an open cab version will be joining the fleet in the future! Thanks for watching 😃

[@anthonywaitzman4632]

Hi i we talked at gets at the hornby 009 layout it was nice to meet u I watch all your video s but like u I’ve fell for 009 carry on the good work I’ll keep on following from anthony

[@anthonywaitzman4632]

That was at gets

[@thisisbob1001]

Nice.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 😃

[@classic_britain]

Ones with DDC stay alive an sound run alot slower take a look at the videos of them on KZbin

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yes that's partly why I suspect fitting a decoder would make it more controllable. The slow speed capability is there, but on an analogue controller it just wants to jump off. Thanks for watching 😃

[@PaulinesPastimes]

Cute as a button 😊

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

I agree! Thanks for watching 😃

[@roberthopper1872]

cool. I'm building a 16mm scale model of Britomart. FGS please stop talking about the lining, it something im dreading but it is at least a year off

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Incredible! Haha, I can sympathise, even in 16mm it's not something I'd be looking forward to either! Thanks for watching 😃

[@silverfox2358]

Do review the others🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Watch this space 😉 Thanks for watching 👍

[@paulnicoll7431]

Toooooooooooo expensive

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Welcome to the world of narrow gauge modelling. If you're wanting models at a lower price then you're better off looking at a more mainstream scales/gauges like 00 rather than 009 which is still more of a niche part of the hobby. Thanks for watching 👍