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@AndrewH561 21 минут бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. I have just bought the P2 (with sound and steam) and I am looking forward to trying it out. I did try a brief test, with minimal water, and failed to get any steam but I assume that might be because I did not fill the tank up quite enough. I was also wondering if there is a sure fire way of making sure the loco has no moisture in it before packing it away. Anyway I look forward to experimenting 🙂 Thanks again, Andrew.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 9 минут бұрын
I wouldn't panic if it hasn't produced any steam yet as it takes a little time for the wick to soak up the water. If you didn't completely fill it up then that's most likely what has happened. If you need to pack it away again you can just suck the water out of the reservoir using the pipette. The wick will still be damp but not enough to cause any spillage. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃
@AndrewH561 6 минут бұрын
Thanks, very helpful 🙂
@sirmatsdubois2509 4 сағат бұрын
Hey I actually had an idea that you might be able to make work if you want to make a modular layout that's easy to move and put together again when going to exhibitions. but it could also be something unique. what if you were to make sections within brief cases or something similar. something that you could easily lift up and put inside of a truck or the boot of a car but still detailed enough to make it interesting. plus you could make each single Briefcase a kind of different environment within Different Seasons like fall winter and so on so forth. plus I really think it would be interesting to make entire modular layout out of Brief cases rather than custom builds modules. just an idea I'm putting out there but hey some of you can work with
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 сағат бұрын
It wouldn't be impossible but using something as small as a briefcase is going to limit the size of the modules and what track plans you can use. For me it would be too far away from the type of layout I wanted to build but like I said, not outright impossible. Thanks for watching 👍
@numbereightyseven 7 сағат бұрын
I know that space is always at a premium, but the expansive nature of this layout makes it my favourite. The escapism into the countryside is easy to feel here.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 5 сағат бұрын
Taking away those normal space constraints is what makes this layout so special in my opinion. You don't have to have all the scenic features right up close to the railway, you can spread them out over the landscape as they would be in reality which creates for a much more natural scene. Thanks for watching 😃
@elizabethmeecham9838 9 сағат бұрын
Great video. I would like use this method but I'm using Woodland Scenics risers and foam rail track. I will need to experiment with glueing the screws in I guess but if I'm relying on glue anyway is it worth adding the screws at all?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 8 сағат бұрын
In that instance you could use copper clad sleepers instead of screws which can be glued more easily to a flat surface. You definitely need something to support the rails and hold them fast at the end of each section though, otherwise they'll be incredibly delicate and likely to cause derailments over the join. Personally, I would strongly recommend having a section of raised wood on either side of the join matching the height of your riser and screwing into that. This will not only create a much smoother join but it will also protect the foam risers from getting damaged too. You would't need much, perhaps a couple of centimetres on each side of the join. That's how I would do it if it were me. Thanks for watching 😃
@gregmacdonald927 11 сағат бұрын
Nicely done. And of use no matter what scale you’re into, TT, N or OO. Thanks.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 9 сағат бұрын
Absolutely, its the same across all scales and I think this method of standardisation is partly what PECO are going for with these new Unifrog points. Thanks for watching 😃
@iansngauge 14 сағат бұрын
Great explanation of the differences between the different styles of points! The other advantage Unifrog points have of course, is that they don't rely on the switch blades to "route" the power, which means no more "sticky" patches when the track gets a bit dirty! Just wish the Unifrog points were available in more styles in N gauge! All the best, Ian.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 12 сағат бұрын
Yes I've heard of lots of people adapting electrofrog points to work in this way so it's nice that PECO have built it in for the unifrog points. I believe the plan is to upgrade each point to a unifrog as the current mould/tooling comes to the end of its life. It won't be a speedy process but generally we should start to see more and more unifrogs appearing on the market. Thanks for watching 😃
@asteroidrules 21 сағат бұрын
It should be mentioned: not all insulfrog turnouts will have a dead rail past the points. Those that do are called "power routing," while turnouts from Atlas are non-power routing insulfrogs, meaning their rails are electrically connected all of the time but the frogs are plastic.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 13 сағат бұрын
My apologies. With the vast majority of the viewers of this channel being UK based I was really only talking about PECO, given that they are the most popular track maker over here. I also assumed that insulfrog and electrofrog were PECO terms but I guess not. Thanks for watching 😃
@loispadgett6306 23 сағат бұрын
I like how you explaned the unifrogs I understand with the help of the colored wires you use. Thanks for sharing. GOD BLESS from America 🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 23 сағат бұрын
Glad you found it helpful. It was definitely a good idea to use the same colours on the diagram as I had on the layout in real life. Thanks for watching 😃
@tagsdm Күн бұрын
As others have said here, the best, easiest to understand tutorial on this age-old topic. Well done, That Model Railway Guy.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Glad you think so... although I'm not sure how age-old of a topic it is given that the Unifrogs have only been available for a few years so far. Thanks for watching 😃
@tagsdm 21 сағат бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Oh, oops, I just meant the topic of insulating frogs and the whole electrical path issue. So much has changed over the years!
@wheelsinmotion196 Күн бұрын
Great explanation and improvement there by peco on product design & user ability
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
It does feel like step forward to me. I can see why some people don't like them but overall I think it's going to make things a lot more simple for people going forward. Thanks for watching 😃
@johncottee8314 Күн бұрын
Can you show how to wire the point if you want to switch them manually please
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
If you wanted to switch the point manually you'd need a rod from the tie bar to interface with a microswitch which can switch the polarity when set for the diverging line. Would be a bit more work though. Thanks for watching 😃
@barrypick5361 Күн бұрын
Thanks that is so useful . I'm about to start a new project using unifrog...
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Awesome, best of luck with it and I'm glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching 🤩
@WaynesLocos Күн бұрын
I’ve been trying for 3 days to figure out why my PM1 will only throw one way, it tries to throw the other way but doesn’t make it 😔
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
My first thought would be to remove it from the point and make sure the mechanism throws properly (with power) on it's own. If that's ok then it's most likely just an alignment issue. I've also had it in the past where the hole is drilled in just slightly the wrong place, restricting movement in one direction, and subsequently needs opening out. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃
@AnotherModelRailway Күн бұрын
I really appreciate this video and that You took the time to go through everything, also having a visual diagram as You explained it really helped to follow along, Thank You for making this video, Electro frog points don’t seem as daunting now, Thank You :)
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Really glad you found it helpful and I'm glad the diagrams were worthwhile... it would have been a pretty boring video otherwise. Obviously while there was some info about Electrofrogs in here the focus was on the Unifrogs - just in case there was any confusion. Thanks for watching 🤩
@markweightman3805 Күн бұрын
I have a good selection of Electro frog points that I manually change, or have surface mount point motors. Unifrogs are a backward step for me, Peco should have kept the frog switchable from the point blades, then you would have the best Point for everyone.. Good Video and good explanation of Unifrogs though, I enjoy the channel, always good content 👍👍
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
It is still possible to do that with the Unifrogs if you want to though. The issue with that method is that you're relying solely on the point blades which can cause problems over time. This way the points are useable for both beginners and those who want more control over their points. Ultimately we all need to get used to Unifrogs as the Electrofrogs are gradually phased out. Thanks for watching 😃
@markweightman3805 Күн бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Must have missed something then, How to you get the point blades to power (and then flip) the frog..?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Snip the wires that connect the blades to the stock rail (if needed, I'm not sure if all Unifrogs are connected here) then solder the frog feed to the blades instead. As the blades touch each stock rail the power will flow through them to the frog (and opposite blade too) but you're relying on good contact being made every time.
@markweightman3805 Күн бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy OK, sounds good, Many thanks for the tip I'll look to do that.. Great stuff.. 👍
@RowgateDale_Railway Күн бұрын
Fantastic! I may not be using unitfrog points. But the D& E tab could those he used to turn on a led on a point switch board?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Yep absolutely, that's one of the other intended uses for the PM1 motors. By using the two polarities you could power two different LEDs for different positions. Thanks for watching 🤩
@RowgateDale_Railway Сағат бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuyso I’m guessing and I apologise for daft questions, but the positives from the LEDs will go to the D & E tab and the negative to the common return?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 47 минут бұрын
Yes that would be my understanding. The PM1s come with a set of instructions which I believe state this option too (you can probably find a digital copy online if you wanted to be sure before buying any)
@Unmasking_Viandalisme Күн бұрын
Ah! Thank you! Unifrog points now a must for my forthcominng project. Perhaps, starting the project could help motivate me to crack on with the mundane, "To do" list.🤓👍
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear it. They've definitely made a world of difference on my TT layout, especially with the smaller locos. Thanks for watching 😃
@CrazyIvan64 Күн бұрын
Bit late to watching this video, but have been watching your TT:120 new layout series. From what I've seen people's biggest frustration with Hornby around the TT series is that they announced that they were planning to release a few locomotive models that Heljan had already publicly said that they already had in the works. As a result Heljan felt forced to pull out of development of their TT:120 models. In their own words "Such duplication in a new and, so far, unknown market produces no winners, only losers." from their blog post from October 2022.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
I think it was a bit of an overreaction from Heljan to pull out to be honest. If they'd have really got to work on it they could have had their models out years before Hornby and possibly to a better standard too. As it is though, I suspect Heljan realised very quickly that they were never going to be able to match Hornby's commitment to the scale and would always be playing second fiddle to them. Hornby came out of the gate with products almost ready to go while Heljan had indicated their interest by showing some cads of the models in other scales. TT:120 was worth it for Heljan when they were the biggest player... which they very quickly weren't. That said, I don't think this has been an issue for a while now. Maybe it was fresh of peoples minds initially but most people have moved on from Heljan's announcement. To me it feels more like a bias against anything Hornby try to do differently... we haven't seen the same amount of critics of Bachmann's new NG7 scale for example. Thanks for watching 👍
@railwayjade Күн бұрын
You have SUPERB content! Very neat work!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Thank you! I do work as hard as I can to keep things interesting and informative. Thanks for watching 😃
@pim1234 Күн бұрын
This is a vid I will use many many times in the future ! Tnx !
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Awesome, that’s great to hear. I can imagine lots of people will refer back to it in the future when it comes to wiring up their points. Thanks for watching 😃
@iliketrainsilikeplanes6047 Күн бұрын
I know it's a bit late now, but I think you should add a chimney to the waiting room. There's a brick wall at the back, which suggests there being a fireplace, and that would need a chimney.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
There is a chimney that comes with the building kit and it’s on the list of things to add in the future. At the time I was very much up against a deadline to get the layout presentable for an exhibition but I have plenty of time in the years to come to add additional detail across the entire layout Thanks for watching 👍
@East_Mallingford_Railway Күн бұрын
How long is you elevated section?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Around 10-11ft if you count right from the start of the incline. I covered this properly in the latest episode. Thanks for watching 👍
@nigelcole1936 Күн бұрын
Ah I see the point now! Many thanks for a very interesting and informative video. Well done for demystifying this aspect of the installation.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
I see what you did there 😉 It’s definitely one of those things which I think is helpful for people to understand, especially as Unifrogs become more widely available from Peco. Thanks for watching 🤩
@RobA500 Күн бұрын
A good explanation, I have used electrofrogs for my DCC layout but because I have used surface mount point motors, I'm using relays to switch the frog. It's a little bit more wiring but still simple enough. It's good to see Peco moving over to the Unifrog, Its a shame they haven't got to crossovers for code 100 track yet as they never came with an eletrofrog version unlike the code 75.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
There are surface mounted point motors that allow for polarity switching - I believe Rails Of Sheffield sell some and they use terminal connectors rather than requiring soldering which is handy too. Might be worth looking into if you ever feel the urge redo them - though if it ain't broke, don't fix it 😉 I believe PECOs plan is to gradually switch over to Unifrog points as the tooling for current products wear out. I don't know how old the current moulds for the crossovers are which will be the deciding factor on how far up/down the list they are. Thanks for watching 👍
@RobA500 Күн бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Ah yes the digital pack does but I have gone pure analogue for point operation, I do have some Rails motors though, the packs of 5 are reasonable value.
@DavidJones-hd1jj Күн бұрын
The best presentation I have seen on this topic. Thank you.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
I'm really glad to hear that David, I did want to make something that was really easy for everyone to understand while still being entertaining. Thanks for watching 😃
@quarrycentral3038 Күн бұрын
Very well explained thank you
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
I'm very glad to hear that! Thanks for watching 😃
@adam_Fordham1988 Күн бұрын
Thank you for that video, I never really understood unifrog points or who they worked so video was a big help 😀
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
My pleasure! I think a lot of people are confused by them but, as PECO's plan is to move over to these entirely in the future, it's something we really should be paying attention to. Thanks for watching 😃
@niallmckelvie Күн бұрын
I've used SEEP point motors in the newer part of my layout and discovered, very early on, that getting the alignment right for correct operation of the power switching function was very difficult (especially when the baseboard is in place), so I use latching relays, which hold their position, even when unpowered. If using a CDU, put a 1k resistor between the coil's common return line and the CDU return line, as the greater current caused by the high voltage can cause the coils in the relay to burn out.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
I can't say I've had any issues with alignment myself. You can see at 07:58 I flip the rod back and forth to find the sweet spot where the contact touches the power feed on each side before marking the position so I'd recommend trying that. With solenoid motors you really need to be using momentary switches. If you're using those there shouldn't be any concern about the motor burning out (even with a CDU) as the burst of power is so short. Thanks for watching 😃
@chickenbites8877 Күн бұрын
Another fantastic production, very well done. Can I ask what gauge wires you use on these point motors please?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Hiya, it's 26AWG wire. There's a link in the description. Thanks for watching 😃
@chickenbites8877 Күн бұрын
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy smashing, thankyou very much
@simontodd5939 Күн бұрын
I'm not sure if I missed this in a previous video but how did you put those tiny holes in the fence posts? Or did you buy them like that?
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Hi there, these are laser cut fence posts I make and sell myself. There's a link in the description but they're currently sold out at the moment. They should be back soon though. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 👍
@alanpennington8364 Күн бұрын
That was very good and well explained
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Glad to hear that! I did try to make it as easy to follow as I could. Thanks for watching 😃
@ChapelEndJunctionUK Күн бұрын
One of the best point explanations that I have seen .
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Glad to hear that! I feel like a lot of people think they're more complicated than they really are. Thanks for watching 😃
@jimbobwhale Күн бұрын
Do you need to use insulated rail joiners with unifrog points please?
@julianmallchok6614 Күн бұрын
No
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
No because the frog is already isolated. If you look at the diagrams at 04:44 you can see the exit of the point is never showing a short circuit. Thanks for watching 😃
@yorkiepudd2 Күн бұрын
Very timely thank you😁👍
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 😃
@chrisbarker5593 2 күн бұрын
Excellent video, thanks very much
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Chris! It was good fun to make all the diagrams for this one. Thanks for watching 🤩
@ianjones6568 2 күн бұрын
Top video Pal So easy to follow You seem to know what your talking about Nice one
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Funnily enough if you found this one interesting you may also enjoy the video I have coming out tomorrow morning 😉 Thanks for watching 👍
@glynwilliams485 2 күн бұрын
nice loco
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
It certainly is! Thanks for watching 😃
@mactrains 2 күн бұрын
Excellent series - and huge thank you again for taking the time to talk to us over @MacTrains and @PeachyTT120. Getting great feedback
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Күн бұрын
My pleasure, glad to hear it's going down well! 👍
@chuckmaddison2924 3 күн бұрын
The cramped for the crew, I was looking in an old tram in the nearby park. I thought then there was little thought for the driver. Just a small round bit of wood to sit on in bugger all space.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 3 күн бұрын
The crew's comfort definitely wasn't taken into consideration with these older engines... it's definitely not like a BR standards were working conditions were a bit more reasonable! Thanks for watching 😃
@darrenmccoy 4 күн бұрын
Great work, just one suggestion, the track solder joints should be on the "back" of the rails so the people at the front can't see them.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 4 күн бұрын
But with a modular model railway, there is no front or back 😉 Generally though the solder joints need to be on the outer sides of the rails otherwise the would interfere with the wheels. Thanks for watching 👍
@darrenmccoy 4 күн бұрын
Good point.
@jamesisonfire4925 4 күн бұрын
Do you add droppers to each piece of track or have one connection to power the entire loop? I’m still working out what to do on my layout
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 4 күн бұрын
For DCC I tend to add droppers to each piece of track if I can - it's not a necessity but it does tend to make things more consistent. The same is true for analog to a certain extent but depending on how you wire things up with isolating sections it can be a bit more involved. At least with DCC you know everything needs to be live all the time. With analog though I've gotten away with having just one power input on an entire layout and running it from that... it depends on the layout of course and what you're hoping to do with it though. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃
@hughoconnor9172 4 күн бұрын
Fitting magnets under locos is a solution but many locos simply do not have sufficient space.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 4 күн бұрын
Between the wheels is usually flat. That’s where the micro magnets are designed to go. Thanks for watching 👍
@CrumpledSandwich 4 күн бұрын
15:37 the balloon loop track is wonky wibbly and badly laid
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 4 күн бұрын
Looking forward to your own series where you do it better.
@davidsheriff8989 5 күн бұрын
You are the first I have seen using metal plates, this is a master stroke. Think this will be stunning when finished.
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 4 күн бұрын
It's funny, I thought the Power Base was already well known but it seems a lot of people are discovering it for the first time through this video. I certainly hope so! I want to be able to show off TT:120 at its best during the exhibition later this year. Thanks for watching 😃
@CMCGRORY217 5 күн бұрын
@Thatmodelrailwayguy I sent you an email but I noted the website says better off trying the comments of YT! Great video btw!
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 4 күн бұрын
No problem, I'll keep an eye out. It just make take me a while to get round to it. Thanks for watching 👍
@PeterEvans-dw2ol 5 күн бұрын
I would like to try out the uncouplers. Where do you suggest I take the power from can I just use the 12v bus wire
@ThatModelRailwayGuy 5 күн бұрын
The control boards run off 5v power. They actually have a USB power socket so I just use one of the spare cables I have lying around and daisy chain all the boards together. If you have a lot of servos/uncouplers though you might run into voltage drop though. Thanks for watching 😃