( 021) Paper Marbling Basics

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[@dougsteets9984]

Thank for posting this excellent introduction to paper marbling. It is nice to have a cheaper alternative to see how it works before we start to spend more money on the professional supplies. The torch trick for clearing bubbles was a real gem.....thanks

[@annemarieridderhof]

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[@williamjenkins2990]

Thank you that was packed full of hints and tips - I wish I had watched this a long time ago it would have saved me loads of grief!

[@annemarieridderhof]

Thank you that is so kind of you....♥♥♥ Thank you♥Thank you for watching♥♥♥

[@annemarieridderhof]

I didn`t use the Alum, if you want to do a piece that you want to keep or sell you first prepare your paper with Alum. You can put it on with a sponge, or a bottle with a mister. You do have to wait until the paper is dry and iron it flat to use it. too many bubbles in the paper can cause the air to get caught under the paper when you put it on the surface. The spreading is different because every paint has a different density, pigments are bonded together with a bonding agent and different colors need more or less bonding, different colors have more or less pigment particles. You can do a test run before you make the definite piece and remember that the more paint is in the tray the less the paints spread.

[@getin3949]

Hello again, Something else I discovered, the prepared paper with the alum needs to be used within a certain amount of time before the alum is no longer effective from what I was told from the company I ordered the paper from. The sheets are approx. 12x14 and were 25 cents per sheet. Thank you for telling me to iron them before I use them, that was not included in the instructions from the book I ordered.

[@grendelum]

Just an FYI: *Carrageenan* and *Alum* can both be bought, in bulk, very cheaply on eBay... that it's not packaged and sold for paper marbling specifically doesn't matter. They both have hundreds of uses and there's no difference in *carrageenan* used in food (it's a thing) or for molds or for art (or the *alum* used in wool dyeing or crystal growing or here). It goes without an obligatory reminder to try and find a reputable seller of course...

[@annemarieridderhof]

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[@tomastomas11]

thats so cool!! cant wait to see the circle

[@annemarieridderhof]

alex buffett thank you...its a lot of fun. Tomorrow my first circle....

[@dethcreeper69]

Thank you for sharing your talent with us. Very easy to understand and follow. It's next on my creative list to do :-)

[@annemarieridderhof]

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[@br.samuel4754]

Dag Annemarie, meer geleerd van dit instructiefilmpje dan 20 turkse websites. Your english is verry wel. That makes you international famous. With love from Belgie....

[@annemarieridderhof]

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[@seepepper7447]

Thank you for your clear video. Very useful!

[@annemarieridderhof]

♥ Thank you for watching ♥

[@Fragkogiannakis_Vasilis]

Thanks from Greece.

[@kritikadevi3297]

Thank you, annemarie! Very helpful for this newbie!

[@annemarieridderhof]

you`re welcome ♥♥♥

[@tuncayorucartteacher4407]

Congratulations

[@annemarieridderhof]

Thank you

[@user-ci7de7kp6u]

Thank you very much for your detail explanation of this. So much appreciate it 😁

[@annemarieridderhof]

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[@samaritaDeath]

Thanks for sharing this. I have a couple of questions- you said you don't have paper prepared, what does that mean? Do you paint the alum on the paper? My second question is some colours seem to spread more than others even in second or third layer, does that depend on how thin the paint is, or the quality / density of the colour?

[@ellenvd5543]

Wat een mooi effect! Bedankt voor het delen!

[@annemarieridderhof]

graag gedaan....♥♥♥

[@joannem.4653]

thank you for shareing. i did notice that you don't need to rack it to the side, and can reuse paint again. good show

[@annemarieridderhof]

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[@vw7741]

Thank you for this very nice video. Could you please tell me the proportion of paper glue you use to make your size? Do you add ammonia in it as it sometimes recommended with methylcellulose?

[@getin3949]

Annemarie, so it is ok to mix brands with the paper marbling technique but not with the acrylic pour? I finally amassed all of my supplies (not cheap) but if I hadn't watched your video I wouldn't have realized that I forgot the ox gall. You're a wonderful teacher, very easy to understand and saved me from wasting expensive supplies. Thank you

[@annemarieridderhof]

with papermarbling it doesn`t matter...you can mix all. ♥♥♥ Thank ♥ You ♥♥♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@julianaleo631]

I like your technique, but question on the Carageenan? What is the other product you used in replacement? I don't read german :-( And Cara...is really expensive! lol Thanks for your expertise, Fraulein

[@annemarieridderhof]

I used wall paper glue it thickens the water like carrageenan

[@phyllisjeanfulton]

❤thank you so very much. I have all the ingredients Ex carrageenan and just ordered. I’ll order a stronger OC gall too. I’m a Printmaker. Oil painter Encaustic painter. This marbling is for BookMaking I take a workshop for in Fall and Spring with a local Bookmaker Thanks again so much. PhyllisJeanFulton

[@annemarieridderhof]

Have fun !! ♥

[@Dacico_20]

Hey! Nice tutorial! I've seen that you can also make Paper Marbling with oil paints if you mix them with turpentine. Do you know if it also works? Do you recommend it?

[@annemarieridderhof]

I have seen it done but never tried...I really would like to and now that I moved all the acrylics downstairs I have room to set it up. ♥♥♥ Thank ♥ You ♥♥♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@pavm3051]

how many times can the size be reused? does it have to be stored in the fridge? thank you for this wondreful demo. cant wait to try. had a complete meltdown after i purchased everything for "professional" marbling and it turned awry. let me give the wall paper adesive method a try! thanks again

[@annemarieridderhof]

Even if it looks dirty it still works but before you do a next one you clean the surface with scrap paper. All art forms need time and experimenting...all brands of paint behave differently. ♥♥♥ Thank you and thank you for watching♥♥♥

[@user-le5iw4zz5e]

Really thanks to this video. It really helped me. And I have one question. While the other paints of color are not push the another colors or spread out largely, but why only red paint pushes another colors and largely spread out even if red drops later than pink? 10:00

[@annemarieridderhof]

some colours float better than others...depends on the brand / kind of pigments. ♥

[@shovonrakib532]

Thank you. Ox gall is very expensive; is there a cheaper substitute?are the synthetic gall or ox gall same liquide?

[@annemarieridderhof]

Not that I know of. Maybe someone can take it with them from abroad...it`s around 6 euros. ♥ Thank you ♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@sheilasaha3893]

Can I use starch to thicken the water?

[@annemarieridderhof]

I don’t know…we don’t have that here.

[@CoxJoxSox]

I wonder how that oxcal(sp?) would work with your acrylic pours.

[@annemarieridderhof]

Ox gall doesn`t do much I tried.

[@moelbarsege]

thank you so much ... I love your work , and I have a question, can I replacement the ox gall with another stuff, I don't have ox gall now.

[@annemarieridderhof]

try a tiny bit of dishwash soa....♥♥♥Thank you so much ♥♥♥

[@theresarasche3173]

how much wallpaper paste do you use? I live this... thank you!

[@annemarieridderhof]

depends on how big your tray is...couple of table spoons is what I used. I prepare it with warm water that speeds it up but you have to let it cool down before starting to marble. If its too thick you can Always add cold water to get the thickness you need.

[@theresarasche3173]

Thank you so much:)

[@theresarasche3173]

Thank you so much:)

[@advanbokhoven2490]

Why use a black tray?

[@annemarieridderhof]

omdat ik geen witte had....

[@rajeevsharma8703]

Thanks

[@annemarieridderhof]

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[@debbiemuldrow4200]

Can the water marbling be done on wood or just paper?

[@annemarieridderhof]

yes it can but you will have to gesso the wood...white or clear gesso. you can try first with alum.. google Alum. ♥♥♥ Thank ♥ You ♥♥♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@karenwoods1234]

Found your marbling video...Woohoo! Question...how does one store premixed carrageenan and for how long can it be kept? I have looked but can't find the answer to these questions. p.s. You rock!

[@annemarieridderhof]

you can`t... 2-4 days then you throw it out...it`s seaweed it will start to stink BAD.

[@IzabelKostantinova]

hEY, hI i DID EVERYTHING AS YOU SAID in the instructions with the ox gall n the paints and the alum for the paper but unfortunately nothing happen. The acrylic paintings didnt spread out as they should have done , neither the paper I took did get the image from what i did in the tray. I am kind of dissapointed where did I get wrong. Maybe you can precise how much exactly ox gall drops you put inside in the paintings....Or maybe for the carragenan how much tablespoons in 2 litres, cause I did as you have said. Maybe the paper was wrong, what kind of paper is good ? :) I will need to go to classes for ebru, but still it is maybe that i did smth wrong with the proportions I guess I don't know... :(:(:(

[@annemarieridderhof]

you don`t just throw it together and expect to get it right...it`s not that easy. you make the thick water first...put some in a glass and mix your paint untill it floats...you need to add and experiment. you water hardness is 100% different than mine...start with distilled water. ♥♥♥ Thank ♥ You ♥♥♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@barbarafidler910]

another person said it was Ox gall, is this correct? I googled that and found it thanks

[@annemarieridderhof]

yes it`s used to make the paint spread faster. ♥♥♥ Thank ♥ You ♥♥♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@br.samuel4754]

By the way.....ossegal....gebruik je dat ook?

[@annemarieridderhof]

ja ossegal is belangrijk. hier alle filmpjes kzbin.infosearch?query=marbling

[@CoxJoxSox]

So u didn't even use the alum - am I right?

[@annemarieridderhof]

Nick Doe yes you are right. Its a lot of work. you have to get the paper flat after you put alum on it. If I can Find paper that picks up the paint by itself I prefer that.

[@mary97103or]

Can this be done on canvas?

[@annemarieridderhof]

watch this .... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fInFo5qKep2de7s

[@barbarafidler910]

what is ox gall in english?

[@annemarieridderhof]

that is the english name. ♥♥♥ Thank ♥ You ♥♥♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@loesvandenberghe2146]

Could you marble on fabric? Perhaps you know?

[@annemarieridderhof]

oh yes 200% ...usually silk is used. if you search marbling silk you will find a few videos on you tube. ♥♥♥ Thank ♥ You ♥♥♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@susanmarielucas2628]

Hi, Loes! You can also marble on cotton and cotton blends... just use somewhat diluted silkscreen inks and heat set afterwards**. Silk is great for scarves but there is the limitation of the size of the tray [(scarves are generally long and narrow so the tray would have to be, too if you wanted a seamless print) and I think that you would have to use alum]. I did some marbling on t-shirts and they were excellent - I inserted a square of plastic the size that I wanted the printed area to be and gathered the rest of the fabric at the back into a rubber band. That made sort of a handle to hang onto to dip the shirt so the ink only touched the front area defined by the plastic square (hope that makes sense). Marbling is awesome and only limited by your imagination: if you can get it to stand still long enough you can marble it! (LOL! - looks sideways at the cat...) **Silkscreen ink is expensive... I suggest you only invest in one jar and play around with it 'til you nail the technique and then when you are happy go ahead and start accumulating other colours.

[@CoxJoxSox]

Could you post the Oxcal product with the English name please?

[@annemarieridderhof]

Ox gall is gall, usually obtained from cows, that is mixed with alcohol and used as the wetting agent in paper marbling, engraving, lithography, and watercolor painting. It is a greenish-brown liquid mixture containing cholesterol, lecithin, taurocholic acid, and glycocholic acid.

[@hugger1ify]

annemarie ridderhof if can't found it in my country , any product can replace oxgal ?

[@annemarieridderhof]

you will have to order it from another country...where do you live?

[@hugger1ify]

I'm stay in West Malaysia.

[@willemijnkraaijeveld2631]

Waarom vertel je het niet in het hollands

[@annemarieridderhof]

omdat 85% van mijn subscribers engelstalig zijn....♥

[@dianejarvis270]

Excellent demonstration. Thank you. Ox gall is very expensive; is there a cheaper substitute? Thanks for sharing.

[@annemarieridderhof]

nope....you need a little...drops. ♥♥♥ Thank ♥ You ♥♥♥ ♥Thank you for watching ♥

[@susanmarielucas2628]

Hi, Diane! I saw on another video the use of something called "Photoflow" in place of ox gall. (Less painful for the ox, too!) The gall affects the spread of the paint and it is not required.

[@dianejarvis270]

Thank you for that tip. I'll try that. Kind regards, Diane.

[@7geaibi]

我不知道颜料如何调配，谁能告诉我？ I don't know how to mix pigments, can anyone tell me? Pigmentleri nasıl karıştıracağımı bilmiyorum, kimse bana söyleyebilir mi? 颜料を混ぜる方法がわかりません。谁か教えてもらえますか？ 안료를섞는방법을모르겠습니다？ Je ne sais pas comment mélanger les pigments, quelqu'un peut-il me le dire? Non so come mescolare i pigmenti, qualcuno può dirmelo? Ich weiß nicht, wie ich Pigmente mischen soll, kann mir jemand sagen? No sé cómo mezclar pigmentos , ¿ alguien puede decirme? Я не знаю, как смешивать пигменты, кто-нибудь может сказать мне? Nescio quomodo explicandi uel pigmento illitum quis poterit indicare mihi? 🤷‍🥛🌈？