035 - Norway is Burning - WW2 - April 27 1940

The Invasion and subsequent Battle of Norway has only just begun when the British decide to pull back. Poor planning and misfortune after misfortune harms the British campaign, which becomes very apparent this week while the fighting continues. Almost everywhere, except for in the far north, the Allied troops pull back under heavy German pressure.
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[@WorldWarTwo]

This week is almost entirely about the Battle of Norway, where the British are not having the succeses that they had hoped for. While this is going on, I'd like to invite you all to our own discord channel where already hundreds of our most engaging world war two buffs come together to discuss these episode as well as much, much more. You can find it right here -> discord.gg/65Dub3w Cheers! *LEASE READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT:* *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban.

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

Yep

[@JimmyCasket84]

World War Two do a navy special

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

What's sad is you still haven't mentioned Luxembourg

[@WorldWarTwo]

@@luxembourgishempire2826 we're in the very north of the Benelux countries here.... not even close to Lichtenstein.

[@titanicww2345]

You pronunciation of Warspite is a bit annoying.

[@mountainhobo]

8:37 "The British government made extravagant promises of aid, while knowing that it lacked the means to fulfill them" - Poland: "No shit".

[@herrakaarme]

Poland: "No shit." Finland: "No shit." Norway: "Really? That's great! We are going to win this war with the help of our reliable allies." Poland & Finland: "Uhhuh. Good luck with that."

[@TheCimbrianBull]

LMFAO! 😂 🤣 😅

[@Erik-ko6lh]

Don't forget Greece, but that's next year.

[@akhashdhillon2159]

And Ukraine in 2014...

[@yuslaven89]

@@Erik-ko6lh And Yugoslavia

[@johnsmead5096]

British Strategy in WWII: “hold tight chaps, we’ll be right back.” *Norway, Belgium, Poland, Finland, France look at each other nervously*

[@Rasmusnilsenbie]

Norwegians: looks to the side seeing the others dead... aw shit, here we go.

[@benwilson6145]

Finland? German Allie, Belgium and France surrender, both without telling Britain. USA does nothing except war profiteer.

[@johnsmead5096]

Ben Wilson thats reductive and biased

[@benwilson6145]

@@johnsmead5096 Where am I wrong?

[@benwilson6145]

@Mycel I smell War Profiteering.

[@jozef_chocholacek]

I have to admit the behavior of the British government / high command mentioned at the end of the episode does not surprise me at all - being born in Czechoslovakia.

[@louisswanepoel1614]

Oh yeah, the Munich conference. History does like to repeat itself.

[@arandomuseroftheinternet8003]

Or the Sykes-Picot agreement... British interests always come first I suppose.

[@itsmebatman]

@@arandomuseroftheinternet8003 Well at the time they still had their empire. And their mindset clearly was focused on that. Norway wasn't a subject. And neither was Czechoslovakia. So they didn't care all that much. Their mindset only started to change a few years later after getting bombed themselves, losing Asian parts of the Empire and having to deal with German advances in the Atlantic and North Africa.

[@verticallogic5909]

however Josef, the British did fight when forced to. The Czechs did not, neither in Sep 1938 or Mar 1939......the Danes did, the Poles did, the Dutch did, the Belgians did, the Norwegians did, the French did, the Finns did......the Czechs did not......

[@Asumokagos]

@@verticallogic5909 Czechoslovakia was not forced to fight - they were simply forced to accept that any resistance was futile and meaningless; unlike the rest of the countries you have mentioned, there was still peace, when Czechoslovakia was abandoned by French and British to its fate, divided and conquered politically, not militarily... independence of Poland was guaranteed by British and French when Germans attacked. By the time Nazis attacked the low countries war had already been declared and as such they were "not fighting alone" ... Only Finns remain, and they were fed empty promises of western support

[@gcircle]

Norwegians: Ok, our backs are against the wall, but together, we can fight back, right guys? Allies: _silence_ Norwegians: Guys? Allies: _fading away into thin air_ Norwegians: ...guys? _Germany appears behind Norway as Allies vanish completely_ Germany: Guten Tag

[@Rattlepiece]

@Henryk Gödel But they are in NATO.

[@nils-christiannilsen7115]

@Rattlepiece Yeah.... we better learn to speak russian.

[@shark180]

Allies: Mr. Norway, I don't feel so well...

[@abeamir5136]

allow us to introduce ourselves

[@milamber319]

To be fair. I can't imagine allied command was that concerned about norway regardless. They were selling iron to the enemy and denying them access to their waters. I mean that makes perfect sense as a nation that wants to be neutral but I can see why britain and france weren't massively willing to come to the aid of the norwegian people. In the allies eyes they made a deal with the devil and should not have been surprised that it went badly. The question is if britain got there first would they have welcomed the german troops and actively joined the war? who knows?

[@jontsuba]

0:36 Last week 0:53 Norway - Southern front 3:01 Norway - Trondheim area 4:35 Adrian Carton de Wiart 6:19 Norway - Trondheim area (cont'd) 7:08 Norway - Narvik area 8:42 Allied evacuation discussions 9:45 Organization of occupied Norway 10:21 And the week comes to an end

[@thegloriouspyrocheems2277]

Give this man a heart will ya

[@madichelp0]

But why? Is there really anyone that doesn't cherish every second of these episodes?

[@stevenwills4660]

I bet Indy cant wait for may when he gets to quote all those sweet Churchill speechs.

[@TheCimbrianBull]

I wonder if he'll also try to pull off the intonation and lisp characteristic of Churchill.

[@Oxtocoatl13]

Most likely they'll just play the recordings. It's more powerful to hear them from the man himself.

[@PMMagro]

With friends like Churchill, in charge of Norway and navy, you need to be drunk to find any hope in life...

[@gosforthlad]

Legend says that Churchill was often drunk when he made his speeches - sometimes too drunk to " hear them from the man himself " and a voice actor was used instead .

[@cd6xc]

The first half of Carton de Wiart's life would be enough for a hundred people to live through. To think that the second half was as eventful is insane.

[@TheCimbrianBull]

He was truly one of a kind.

[@mjbull5156]

He had one life to give to British Empire, but multiple body parts.

[@kaczynskis5721]

He somewhat resembles the Russian commander Kutuzov, who had also lost an eye and received skull injuries. I wonder whether both men had neurological damage that might have explained their recklessness.

[@TheCimbrianBull]

@@kaczynskis5721 That's an interesting question. Obviously, I haven't experienced anything like they had but I read about how traumatic events can lead to psychological growth and a changed perception of life and death.

[@kaczynskis5721]

@@TheCimbrianBull Kutuzov had been shot in the head twice. He was admired by Russian troops because reputedly he had no ill effects other than being blind in one eye - but he sometimes went into a paralytic torpor - including for a time during the 1812 Battle of Borodino - and I don't think he escaped brain damage.

[@stevenwills4660]

Norway:well it's been hard for us but i think we can get though this if we all stick together Uk: ooohhh yeah about that.... Uk has left the chat Norway: NOOOOOOOOO!

[@trk4973]

UK: We will save your country Also UK: lol jk

[@Erin-Thor]

If you study the Norwegian and Finland resistance while beaten and occupied, was worthy of respect. Germany and Russia paid dearly.

[@kalashnikovdevil]

A tragic part of the war that doesn't get nearly enough recognition.

[@andmos1001]

It does have alot of recognition from us in Norway due to the turing point in both military and diplomatic standpoint.

[@andmos1001]

@mjstbnsnwe had an incurgency wich did their part in this war yes. However, there are black spots in Norway as well. The most obius one is when Vidkun did an coup d'etate. The less is that when the Nazist wanted every jew in Norway, our police helped the Nazis capturing most of them before the Incercency lead an small part of them across the border to sweeden.

[@andmos1001]

@@lamolambda8349 In Danmark, the police helped and alerted Jews over the Sweedish border defining the order of from the German occupies. In norway, not so much

[@SovietDoge]

Wiart wore a redcoat in the far south of the world and is now, 40 years later, wearing his khaki in the far north of the world. Absolute mad lad.

[@ScooterWeibels]

wonderful character Hollywood should make movie about him.

[@dikkekater]

He gets captured and put into a pow camp in italy. Being a absolute madlad he will manage to escape it twice, propably by digging a tunnel with a rusty spoon.

[@stevebengel1346]

Most amazing thing about him is that he died from old age at 83

[@xerxeskingofking]

unfortunately, the brits were already fighting in Kharki for the boer war, with the redcoats being a parade and barracks dress by that time.

[@godlovesyou1995]

@@xerxeskingofking they used both

[@lhaviland8602]

August Mackensen: "I'm the biggest badass of the 20th century". DeWiart: "Slow right down there buckaroo".

[@el_rod]

Great Britain: "Don't worry guys!" Great Britain: "I have a plan" _Great Britain has left the game_

[@akeffs]

My grandfather smuggled goods (butter etc.) from Sweden into occupied Norway during the war. When the occupation ended he brought my grandmother back with him.

[@olavrell]

I sincerely hope that when we get to the right point, in the timeline of the Norwegian invasion. That the Norwegian general Carl Gustav Fleischer gets a small spotlight on his efforts and unfortunate death during the war. His contribution might not be as big as many more famous commanders during the whole of the second world war, but he deserves a mention.

[@perperson199]

Hear hear

[@pontusbratan4246]

Should have been in all strategy games

[@henryfleischer404]

Huh... he has the same last name as me.

[@TroPy1n]

'Frankly, I had enjoyed the war… and why do people want peace if the war is so much fun?' -Adrian Carton de Wiart

[@kaczynskis5721]

He had many German counterparts with similar views. This was a factor in the Allies deciding that the Germans must fully realise the meaning of war and make sure they realised - unlike in 1918 - that they were on the losing side and had no stab in the back myth to fall back on.

[@arcticblue248]

And then you have Mad Jack who liked to attack with his sword and had a confirmed kill with bow and arrow during the war. He also was helping raiding norwegian coast. After the war, he was kinda pissed off at the americans, without the bomb .. the war could have lasted atleast 5 more years he aparently said :-)

[@pnutz_2]

the British have learned a little from the dardanelles campaign in not throwing good money after bad, but not in launching bad invasions in the first place. coincidentially this video also went to patreon subscribers on anzac day. lest we forget.

[@lovablesnowman]

Norway was an extremely close run thing. You're not gonna win every campaign. Risks have to be taken in war. Norway was worth the risk

[@williestyle35]

Thank you for mentioning ANZAC day. (:

[@johnsaetre7071]

@@lovablesnowman The axis had two reasons to invade Norway. To control the iron ore trade from Sweden annd to launch attack from submarine bases from deep in Norways fjords, effectively cutting off UK from the world trade. As things will show later in the series , the harbour of Narvik was totally destroyed, and it played no importance of the rest of the war.

[@AncientAccounts]

Norway gets burnt The ice: Visible confusion

[@TheCimbrianBull]

Ice, ice, baby!

[@seneca983]

A Song of Ice and Fire

[@enricomigliorini9612]

Listening to Indy talking about De Wiart after playing him for Sabaton hits differently

[@Ruija27]

45 minutes of WW2 content in one evening!

[@trizvanov]

Carton de Wiart: "'tis but a scratch!" "A scratch? Your arm's off!"

[@nageeb96]

great superb work unlike any others Indy . its like Glass VS Diamonds no Competition. Thank you.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank YOU.

[@LordXanathar]

I love watching this just days after hearing "The unkillable soldier." by Sabaton.

[@WorldWarTwo]

@Kark 🤘

[@adnef0388]

My grandfather fought at Tretten, dude almost got shot

[@HS-su3cf]

Watching the red line on the map going over the place I live.

[@TheCimbrianBull]

So did everything turn red while it happened? 😜😋

[@Arbiter099]

color wasn't invented yet in the 1940s, everyone knows that.

[@brag0001]

@@Arbiter099 actually it was. Regular German soldiers were even carrying their own cameras with color film. Just Google for "color camera german soldiers ww2" and you will find plenty of color imagery. And no: they haven't been colored after the fact. Color film was commercially available since at least 1935. It was just a lot more expensive, so monochrome pictures and film were still a lot more common.

[@Arbiter099]

@@brag0001 it was a joke that the entire world was B&W pre-1950ish ( although medieval art is very colorful, so color must have been lost somewhere in between) and of course, since I've explained the joke...

[@michaelnoack4240]

I, and I guess everybody else, understood your joke. How ever not everybody is aware that color actually was already available and used in the second world war.

[@marks_sparks1]

British advancing in the opposite direction to the enemy. Getting practice in before France a few weeks later

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

Not really the British more there leaders early war.

[@Phoenixmaster131]

4:45 wow impressive! Give Carton de Wiart a Sabaton song then!

[@detesla9575]

As a Norwegian, this is interesting. Thanks

[@amcalabrese1]

De Wiart is supposedly the inspiration for Brigadier Ritchie-Hook in Evelyn Waugh’s Sword of Honor trilogy.

[@neilwilson5785]

I've read the books, and that seems about right. He was first ashore in North Africa in the books, and came back with the severed head of a French soldier as a trophy. Before anyone complains, it was a Vichy guy, and war is war. De Gaulle was annoying, (to us Brits), but a true patriot and killed tons of Nazis. The Vichy were scum. They deported Jews.

[@Ivan-fn8bf]

Norwegians: "Where are you going?" Brits: "Errm... We're going to gas station to buy some cigarettes."

[@pegzounet]

Warspite ! Even as a frenchman it hurts.

[@TheCimbrianBull]

I was caught off guard when he said that and I involuntary cringed.

[@planescaped]

@@TheCimbrianBull All cringing is involuntary... >__>

[@bencetary6094]

I know, Her Majesty should not be so disrespected.

[@Rabarbarzynca]

Do you have plans for putting some context on Polish units formation in France in the coming episodes? We just got Poles in Narvik in this one and it might be a bit confusing where they came from. Keep up the great work!

[@tankred119]

you should mention Norwegian General Fleicher. His story is as interesting as its sad...

[@perperson199]

Indeed

[@flipsgraf1335]

Just googled him when I saw this. What a fascinating man...

[@akrybion]

Of course de Wiart is a badass- he's wearing an eyepatch after all!

[@TheCimbrianBull]

All he needed was to also have a hook as replacement for his missing left hand.

[@mohammadsab4478]

British be like: Lol guys we are leaving

[@martinmortyry7444]

Not even that, they are *just* leaving.

[@neilwilson5785]

I imagine that is was horrific to the troops to be leaving in defeat, leaving behind dead and wounded comrades and civilians. If your imagination says 'lol' I would look a little bit more into the history. It's not really a criticism, but getting into history can really give a good insight. Those guys wanted to do a good job, and got beat. They came back for more, when they got better equipment and training.

[@daybreak667]

Neil Wilson the fucks your problem

[@godlovesyou1995]

They were constantly getting bombed and shelled

[@Oldworldblues227]

Please keep following the jolly adventures of Adrian Carton de Wiart and the other eccentric gentlemen officers of legend.

[@TheCimbrianBull]

And later on in the war we will probably come to hear of a crazy broadsword-wielding Scotsman who on D-day shoots at Germans with bow and arrows!

[@dannystephens9056]

This is the best war doc I've ever seen .

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thanks Danny!

[@Almviken]

I am from Trondheim. And must say I love how you prononce the norweigian names ..

[@MK-je7kz]

By the way Historigraph channel has several great and detailed videos about invasion of Norway. They are great complimentary for these WW2 channel videos. (Disclaimer: I'm not anyway affiliated with that channel)

[@neilwilson5785]

Great channel.

[@theninjainblack1237]

Those videos are wonderful, and prior to them I knew little to nothing about the Norwegian campaign myself

[@WorldWarTwo]

We don't mind a good recommendation

[@demef758]

11:06 "British local commanders are instructed NOT to tell the Norwegians that they are leaving, but simply to leave." August 16, 2021: gee, where have I heard that same type of instruction recently?

[@tweetert.9978]

Watching this back now after "The Unkillable Soldier" was released by Sabaton makes it way cooler knowing Indy performed as him in the music video. I can tell Indy gave the band the idea to sing of him and his amazing story.

[@AsscrackistanMapping]

Holy hell that British dude is 100% badass.

[@jerryw6699]

and that's about all that's left of him

[@Raadpensionaris]

Belgian*

[@MrCushcam]

@@Raadpensionaris *British. Born in Belgium

[@xappgametvx]

allies be like: mission failed, we will get em next time..

[@ComissarYarrick]

I just read about de Wiart in wikipedia. What a absolute mad man, tho I wonder if he ever meet with Jack Churchhill, another "unique" brithish soldier.

[@alexandrekuritza5685]

4:18 to think Indy would interpret this legend himself close to three years later, in yet another sabaton epic song. Trying to watch *every single video* of this channel btw.

[@excelon13]

Once World War 2 is over in 5 years someone needs to make a compilation of every one of Indy's phone calls at the beginning of every episode lol.

[@thebatstory6451]

F in the chat for the Allies ATM

[@dba4292]

As a Norwegian I just wanna say, we fought. * *Looks to certain other countries and people who say Norwegians didn't put up a fight on their own* *. Thanks to the British, French and Polish forces who laid down their life. It was never for nought, never. I'm actually part French and part British.

[@jankutac9753]

Funny thing is, if the British had done their invasion a few weeks before, during the whole Finland thing and Swedish iron thing, probably Norwegians would have fought the British as well. The really scary thing was their neutrality , and that they could have well ended up on the bad guys' side, if the Germans had been more tactful and less stupid in their approach

[@abian36]

50th video of the marathon reached. So interesting to see how fast time flies, for we are already in late April 1940 and it almost feels like the war started a mere few hours ago. Sure hope the Franco-British-Norwegian combined efforts defeat the Germans and the war ends soon enough. Surely before we reach video 100, the other 600 are a long epilogue.

[@massaweed420]

2:25 That is a really good photo. So many bikes just tossed on the road...

[@happyghost_27]

I have a lot to catch up! Time to do some binge watching!

[@espenfredriksen6945]

Indys pronunciation of the norwegian places is impressing:)

[@RaymondCore]

Yes. This whole series, with names and place names from all over the globe, he must have an impressive method of phonetic writing.

[@freetolook3727]

Caller: "I'm playing Risk and just took western Great Britain, Eastern Europe, and North Africa." Indy: "So, Ireland, Yugoslavia, and Libya. Sounds like fun."

[@TheCimbrianBull]

Just wait until Hitler invades the Soviet Union and Ukraine in particular: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKuvpXmVhd2Vj9k

[@lucasschaffer4369]

Wonderful video, as always!

[@williestyle35]

Lillehammer, Lillehammer? Where have I heard that before? Thank you Time Ghost History for a very good episode and all of your works on World War Two. (:

[@TheBooklyBreakdown]

Netflix show about mafia murderer flees to Norway, or something like that

[@RaymondCore]

@@TheBooklyBreakdown 1994 Winter Olympics

[@Stargazer80able]

Cant wait for your video on castle Wewelsburg. That will be an important video, and hold no bars on that one.

[@frankwhite3406]

Yer another fantastic episode , keep up the good work chaps !

[@TheKurtkapan34]

7:55 "battleship war-SPIT" he did it again!

[@TheKurtkapan34]

@@indiananeidell9186 That''s what i tought too, that you guys film at least 4-5 episodes back to back but it's still fun to point out! :) Imperfections just make it easier to like you guys.

[@meathugger3228]

And Norway still gives a large tree to the uk every christmas. whit a big smile and says. thank you for the help in the war my friend.

[@barkebaat]

Well, the 'Norwegian Campaign' was a shambles, pretty much, but the British were good and steady allies through the rest of the war. It will not be forgotten by us.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

The allies had no real air cover, and without that or any real equipment to match the German heavy stuff, the Brits where toast, best to save lives now and retreat for a chance tomorrow.

[@NinjaBananes]

I wonder if you will cover Contemporary Wars like the Ecuadorian-Peruvian War. Because for me they fit to the World War 2 History!

[@NinjaBananes]

@@indiananeidell9186 Thank you for the answer. I think it could be interesting if it's at least mentioned in the regular episodes. It could also make a good special episode.

[@williamshortfilm5818]

British in Norway: We need to retreat ! French: Wait, what...are you sure ? British at Dunkirk: We need to retreat ! French: What ! Stay !

[@leowilly29]

sadly its really forshadowing

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

By Dunkirk France was a lost a cause, you can't expect an army to stay and be destroyed.

[@williamshortfilm5818]

@@RomanHistoryFan476AD If you watched the other episodes, you should know that is not true

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

@@williamshortfilm5818 What you mean, a good chunk of the allied army that was actually properly trained has been surrounded and getting destroyed, the BEF had to leave otherwise it to would be destroyed. The counterattack to break out failed and the Germans where not making the same mistake again.

[@williamshortfilm5818]

@@RomanHistoryFan476AD Most of the French army was outside of the pocket in the South, or in the ligne Maginot, not in the Dunkerque

[@FunAllDayLong4353]

My Uncle was a sapper during the Norwegian campaign. Not a lot of people know that. He escaped without a scratch and for his pains they sent him to reinforce the garrison and help build the defenses on Hong Kong island. At least he got to row in Kowloon harbor and play cricket for the Royal Engineers before the shooting started.

[@chsims7032]

Indy, I am thoroughly impressed with the work you are doing here just as you did with The Great War. Keep it up! Also, as the war progresses, will we be getting episodes dedicated to individual personnel, and not just the typical World and Military leaders and Generals but decorated airmen and ground-pounders like Audie Murphy, Lt. Col. Robert Cole, Werner Molders, Adolf Galland, Douglas Bader, Hans-Ulrich Rudel, Erich Hartmann, John Basilone to name a few? Perhaps even special episodes talking about specialized groups like Fallschirmjäger/Paratroopers, the U-boot service where 3/4 of those who served never returned, or even the formation of Night Fighter squadrons? Thank you for your great work!

[@WorldWarTwo]

We don't know if (or when) we'll have the resources to go into those individuals. But we certainly want to. If not in specials, we'll do them in Out of the Foxholes

[@yalelingoz6346]

Every week there is a mention of Warspite is a good week.

[@geordimi]

You probably mean Warspit

[@yalelingoz6346]

@@geordimi Heh. I had to resist sooooo hard correcting Indy on that pronunciation. While an english name it probably isn't spoken much about outside the Commonwealth.

[@captainofgondor1286]

Carton de Wiart, eh? "Into the fire through trenches and mud /Son of Belgium and Ireland with war in his blood"

[@ericjohnson1289]

You guys need to some specials on the kit of all sides and the field rations of the different fighting forces.

[@nirfz]

Have to ask: the decision to evacuate: did this include the northmost troops, or was the desicsion to evacuate them made later?

[@nirfz]

@@indiananeidell9186 ok, thanks!

[@markroberts9577]

The lesson learned is treat your friends better because eventually you might be all alone having to defend yourself when the situation is darkest

[@DotepenecPL]

On 30th of April 1940, Major Henryk Dobrzański, known as "Hubal", was killed in action near Anielin in Poland. He was commander of a Polish Army unit which remained fighting since September last year until 25th of June 1940. I just thought it could be worth mentioning in the next episode (or perhaps Spartacus already mentioned them in the War against Humanity, I haven't watched the latest material yet).

[@WorldWarTwo]

We did not, but we will dedicate an Instagram post on it tomorrow.

[@DotepenecPL]

@@WorldWarTwo Cool. Interesting, even if controversial figure.

[@sportssmackdownsmore7450]

Mr. Indy Neidell, this may seem out of left field, but I propose we work together to do Countries of WWII (for this channel) and Countries of the Interwar (for B2W) series’, it will be vigorously sourced: you tell me how many sources I need for every last word I say. I am a sports broadcaster, producer, and content editor, so I have the voice and creative talent for this. I dont care if you can’t compensate me now, you will be able to in a few years when WWII and TimeGhost really takes off. This is a passion project for me anyway. Your friend, Mr. Alexander Knight

[@calumclark1719]

Hate to be a stickler but the nearest British coastline to Norway is 230 miles away and this was also the distance of the nearest fighter squadron based at Sumburgh Head, which was made up mostly of Bristol Beaufighters, Which had the range to reach Noway easily but how useful they would have been i do not know, i assume the distance of 400miles has been taken from Scap Flow?

[@calumclark1719]

@@indiananeidell9186 Ah i see at the Aerodrome only has the year not the mouth they were deployed so that makes sense, I take it the Distance it the video is there and back then not just one way? in which case my bad am not sure what they had at RAF Scatsta which was mostly a Catalina/Sunderland base, My Grandmother seems to think flew to Norway continually in 1940 but would had been patrols being a Naval Bomber/ Scout Plane Cheers Indy thank you for the Reply

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

Did they have enough fuel to stay around though patrolling for a while and also get back.

[@calumclark1719]

@@RomanHistoryFan476AD the Bristols would have had enough to hang around for a while but am not sure they could have gotten bogged down in a dog fight

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

@@calumclark1719 I think that is why they where not sent then, no point being sent if you can't fight for long.

[@calumclark1719]

@@RomanHistoryFan476AD pass with out being to see a average fuel use of a dogfight it's hard to say. Certainly from local history here by the time it was though about Norway was lost

[@billslocum9819]

I remember years ago this Squad Leader scenario of a battle in Norway: "Action At Balberkamp." The rule was, if different players controlled the Norwegian and British forces against the Germans, the allied players could not talk to each other. Apparently British high command operated the same way.

[@Mika-435]

Just out of curiosity, will you guys cover the Bengal Famine of 1943 in about three years from now?

[@WorldWarTwo]

Of course we will

[@victorbruant389]

There was Dallas, from Phoenix; Cleveland - he was from Detroit; and Indiana... well, I don't remember where Indiana come from.

[@TheCimbrianBull]

🎶 He comes from Alabama with his banjo on his knee... 🎶

[@thegloriouspyrocheems2277]

Forrest Gump reference ❤

[@TheOtherOne122]

It’s ironic because (my source is a book like 3000 miles away from me right now) the British made the first ever aircraft carrier and now they’re getting outgunned because they didn’t reinvest in this naval creation

[@mjbull5156]

And the carrier they do get involved in this operation becomes the victim of some massive errors both tactical and strategic.

[@bkjeong4302]

MJBull515 How on earth do you get a carrier sunk by the exact type of ship the carrier rendered pointless?

[@mjbull5156]

@@bkjeong4302 Have a captain who is more concerned about a personal vendetta against the XO then the war that is going on, as a start.

[@Defenestrationflight]

So just like tanks?

[@jamiegray6931]

@@Defenestrationflight Debatable.

[@HeviErkka]

Norwegian song about this week : kzbin.info/www/bejne/fH-ul6Gaap6qptk

[@FrazzP]

Was the fighting at Tretten the first time in the war that British troops actually fought against the Axis?

[@WorldWarTwo]

As in in a real battle, yes. But the British had encountered the Germans numerous times in the skies and on the seas already.

[@indianajones4321]

Dang! 3 episodes in one day!

[@YoshiTheyosh123]

Man, the early war performance of the allies was really atrocious, wasn't it?

[@conservativewhiteguy4151]

Wait. Indie. 1940. British AT gun is the QF 2 right? 40mm. I think it could have penetrated panzer 2s and 3s. Maybe the stub nose panzer 4 and stug you were talking about?

[@auguststorm2037]

I don't think they had QF-2 in Norway. Apparently the best they had is the Boys Anti-tank rifle with which they did pretty good against german Neubaufahrzeug panzers (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neubaufahrzeug) near Lillehammer. No Panzer 4 in Norway. Just PzKpfw I , II , and Neubaufahrzeug from small Panzer-Abteilung 40 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer-Abteilung_40)

[@thetsarofsalt2485]

It's pretty cool to think about how quickly technology advanced between world war 1 and world war 2, and how drastically it changed the tactics required for successful operations. For example like near the beginning of your video mentioning that the Germans had overwhelming aerial superiority which gave a huge advantage in their favor against the allied forces in Norway. Which brings me to my question, in your studies have you found that the officers on either side had a tough time adapting to the new styles of warfare with these rapid advancements, much like the struggles seen in world war 1? Oh and as always, another excellent video! I always enjoy watching this series :)

[@bkjeong4302]

The Tsar Of Salt When it came to naval aviation everyone pretty much ignored it and kept investing money into now-pointless battleships (both sides of the war), so yes.

[@thetsarofsalt2485]

@@bkjeong4302 thanks for answering my question! That's pretty interesting, especially since it seems like it was pretty prominent by the end of the war

[@bkjeong4302]

The Tsar Of Salt To be fair, all of the ships were planned even before the war, but even that was in the late 30s which was when naval aviation first became a serious threat to surface units, so.... The United States had enough money so could afford to waste tens of billions of dollars on battleships and still build more carriers than everyone else combined, and the Axis powers stopped building them partway through the war and cancelled the later ones they had planned. Still doesn’t make the ones they actually built good ideas, though.

[@thetsarofsalt2485]

@@bkjeong4302 ooohhhhhhh gotcha, that makes sense

[@bkjeong4302]

The Tsar Of Salt Had the ships been planned a few years earlier (when naval aviation wasn’t yet that capable), they wouldn’t have been obsolete, but as it happened these ships had the displeasure of being planned or laid down just as they were becoming obsolete, resulting in them being outright obsolete by the time they were launched. (It takes years to build a battleship) But all the navies of the world grew out of a “big gun” tradition, so in the worst example of institutional inertia in military history, they each spent billions of dollars building weapons systems they no longer had a need for.

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

Regarding the "pulling his own fingers" Lt Gen Adrian story, I don't know if you people have had necrotized tissue, but the pain is unbelievable. It really feels like extirpating the tissue will hurt less than keeping it-and it factually does hurt less.

[@caeserromero3013]

The only real positive to come out of the Norway debacle was that it made it clear that things couldn't continue on as they were with Chamberlain. His policies had to be demonstrated to have completely failed, before he could be convinced to step aside.

[@aaronmarks9366]

Was the fighting near Tretten the first significant ground battle between the British and Germans in World War II?

[@12345678900987659101]

Frosty better not go there to seek refuge from heat then.

[@patrickazzarella6729]

11:15 That gave me chills

[@MrHusker1996]

Anybody has any information about translators? Did every unit had some, was there "main" allied language etc. I mean British, French, Polish troops fighting in Norway against Germans, that's a lot of languages for a coordinated effort.

[@bhp2488]

I've been to Narvik....on Battlefield 5.

[@BobbyLiqid]

Here's a possible question for a future Out of the Foxholes episode: Would it technically be possible for an ordinary German soldier to fight no-one but Poles between 1939-1945? We have The Invasion of Poland, then Narvik in Norway, the partially recreated Polish Army in 1940 France, the Poles in Tobruk with the Aussies, Czechs and Kiwis, the poles in Italy, Poles in 1944 France, and of course the Polish Army in the East. It just sounds like a cool possible happenstance. Loving the work by the way, keep it up.

[@kaczynskis5721]

Well, it was quite possible for an ordinary German soldier to BE a Pole. First of all, even before 1939 there was a significant Polish minority in Germany, mainly in Silesia and Pomerania. They were not popular under the Third Reich but their males were liable to be called up into the German armed forces. Then a large chunk of Poland was annexed to Germany - Poles living there often claimed to be ethnic Germans for various reasons - ethnic Germans were entitled to better rations and were not deported to make room for Germans as was the case with those who insisted on their Polish ethnicity. This second category was also conscripted into the German armed forces. 'Microcosm' by Norman Davies and Roger Moorhouse mentions some of these Poles in the German armed forces. A German corporal from the Rhineland named Schwalge was put in charge of some of them during basic training and enjoyed ridiculing their accents and bad German. Unexpectedly, Schwalge was sent to the front with them. He tried to change his tune but the Poles did not forget. At the first clash with the Red Army in Hungary they took the opportunity to shoot Schwalge dead.

[@maciejhammer2681]

What's the grey triangle on the Polish division square going for Narvik?

[@WorldWarTwo]

It's the Polish Independent Highland Brigade and the grey triangle stands for mountain troops

[@matthewlee8667]

Scandinavia: we're in trouble Hitler: there is Norway out of this one

[@markdavies7776]

It's amazing to think that when recording this episode you would have had no idea that just a few years later you would be donning the eye-patch yourself to play the Unkillable Soldier :)

[@rednovember2205]

Was he talking about Jack Churchill in the beginning?

[@keiththurston3016]

No De Wiart

[@adamwoodings5865]

Looking forward to Adrian Carton de Wiart biography special, the man was a lunatic, but one who managed to survive to the ripe old age of 83...

[@TheCimbrianBull]

On the channel "The Great War" there is a biography special about him.

[@jankutac9753]

I don't understand. Why didn't the British cut off German reinforcements and just keep sending more troops? How did the Germans keep their soldiers supplied?

[@MrCordycep]

Adrian Carton de Wiart sounds like a guy who would give Mad Jack a run for his money.

[@kaczynskis5721]

I don't know about other campaigns but in the Norwegian one he seems to have operated efficiently and done nothing ill-considered. For example when he landed he made sure British positions and supply depots were spread out and concealed as much as possible to make them less vulnerable to the Luftwaffe.

[@Jerberus]

Adrian Carton de Wiart Being an anime protagonist before it was cool.

[@hidof9598]

Holy cow, the command structure is convoluted and messed up

[@HowieDaDuk]

Norwegian soldier to British soldiers at the Aalesund harbor...."Why are u getting into this row boat?" "Well, uh, U see, we thought we might take in the sights of the bay and maybe do a little fishing out past the jetties," replied the Brits, as they feverishly paddled away from the dock...... tootaloo!!

[@evanulven8249]

We can also blame chamberlain for being, well, chamberlain. Lower case deliberate.

[@kaczynskis5721]

His picture appears at about 1:01 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4GlZaWVrruoias