milling o62 vortec heads for screw in studs guide plates and double springs at home with a drill press
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@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
THE TOOLS I USED FOR THIS PROJECT WERE COMP CAMS 4726 CUTTER WITH A # 11-HP ARBOR THE SECOND CUTTER WAS ACOMP CAMS ALSO 4729 AND A .365-HP ARBOR
@fbbc64952 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir my machine shop wants 750 to install and machine. So I'm guna call com cams thank.
@cdpperformance2613 Жыл бұрын
Which one is the cutter for screw in studs to cut down it for guide plates
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
@@cdpperformance2613 4729 is for cutting the stud bosses down
@moparnut62862 жыл бұрын
Old man glad this popped up love it when you can do things at home this was awesome!
@charlesparr16112 жыл бұрын
I freaking LOVE this. You got a sub and I can't wait to see more.
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
THANKS ALOT MAN
@KarKamp Жыл бұрын
Cool content guy really appreciate ya and thanks for all the info in the comments, don't beat yourself up to much I striped and broke one of the studs I was trying to pull and i had been seriously considering sending the heads out till now. Thanks again
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
thanks man i subbed back
@BrothersCustomBuilds2 жыл бұрын
Got to love backyard builds 💪🏻
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
Back yard builds is the only way I can build a car
@edsmachine93 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Old Man. Good job. Take care, Ed.
@MMCGRACING3 жыл бұрын
Missed this one... great video buddy, man I wish we were closer, the boys camaro needs that done on his lt1 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
it really easy to do
@drumluck692 жыл бұрын
Seems like that cutter die could stand a little oil? Good video!
@salserr50222 жыл бұрын
Great video, keep up the good work 👍
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
i set the stop on my drill press so the cut depth is the same every time really simple to do
@lorenzosmith960010 ай бұрын
Great job great content keep up the good work
@kevinrandall832710 ай бұрын
I like your style using good comp cams cutters, I think you should enquire to see if comp cams can supply you with a work bench you don’t have to chase all over the workshop.
@JDspeedandFab.8 ай бұрын
Great!! Efforts sir!! .
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87268 ай бұрын
thank you sir the heads worked out good
@terrysspeedshop3 жыл бұрын
I learned something new. Thanks
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
good deal if it helps you save money
@ralphparker9263 Жыл бұрын
Very cool love this stuff thanks
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
thanks for checking us out
@mikemiller3732 жыл бұрын
Some tap magic would help things along. Enjoyed watching.
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same my buddy that owns a machine shop said dont put any lube on the cutter when cutting cast
@anonone89547 ай бұрын
@@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 that's good information to know because I would have used some lubricant. Thank you for the video.
@oscarpuente20292 жыл бұрын
outstanding!!
@robertries77742 жыл бұрын
You know you took way to much material off, the spring uses that to center on. .200" is more than enough. Also don't forget to enlarge the push rod holes in the head! ½" drill bit works perfect.
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
i may of taken to much off but my buddy builds these heads all the time and thats what he told me to do. thanks for watching and commenting
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
i forgot to mention there will be double springs on the heads
@robertbanks6870 Жыл бұрын
Nice work
@firstrespondergarage8 ай бұрын
👍👍🍿watched it again for the hell of it
@Canadiancarguy19872 жыл бұрын
Hey Nice Video man!
@cfmechanic3 жыл бұрын
Heck ya buddy staying buisy and getting shit done. Keep up the hard work
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
i really enjoyed doing it
@noccis34483 жыл бұрын
$2-300 you didn't have to pay, perfect.
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
thats the way i was looking at it and i learned how to do it
@MrElusive12 жыл бұрын
Cool! I am doing this on a pair of 906's
@wayneadams7829 Жыл бұрын
Better not or you'll be sorry you did
@jarmominkkinen9409 Жыл бұрын
Good jobb 👍👏👏👍
@The1965catalina3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
it was fun and pretty easy to do
@joemiller62782 жыл бұрын
Didn't know Ron White was a novice machinist. Get em' tiger
@tom42662 жыл бұрын
Yep,....Plenty of room for any spring combo now !
@sts.5563 жыл бұрын
nice
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
thanks buddy
@wayneadams7829 Жыл бұрын
Vortec heads are not designed to use guide plates. They use self aligning rocker arms. And the pushrod holes need to be opened up to 1/2 inch to keep the pushrods from rubbing when a high lift cam is used.
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
wayne you are correct but decided to go with roller rockers and guide plates with push rod holes opened up and they work fine thanks for the info
@RustyIronProjectsRIP3 жыл бұрын
Nice.....money saver......looking good. Now what are they going on??
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
Not sure yet rusty I have several blocks I'm thinking about building a 315 a 060 over 305 I have most all the parts
@allhailinternalcombustion Жыл бұрын
I find the easiest way to pull rocker studs is to install a cam that's just below spec of where it should be a problem. Take the car for a 10 minute drive, and suddenly most of them have pulled. 😁
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
That's to easy
@XGarage-nj2uf2 жыл бұрын
Almost to 500.
@firstrespondergarage Жыл бұрын
🚒👍👍
@2old2rodeo3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I have a set of Vortec heads and the tools. I just need the vice. Which vice are you using? Is there a 3 axis that would allow a tilt as well?
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
6inch 2 axis i couldnt find a 3 axis thats what i was wanting but im still looking one
@jbslittleshop28973 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah, good info!!
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
now you can put a v8 in the red truck
@SwheatCents2 жыл бұрын
You gotta be from my neck of the woods feller I'm in Gastonia NC
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
close man im in pamlico county on the coast
@jeremyblake59973 жыл бұрын
Time to gather a short block
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87263 жыл бұрын
yep time to do something
@tom42662 жыл бұрын
Nice job there with just a drill press !!....Just askin,.....without any oil lube, is that valve guide arbor/cutter's Dry arbor damaging or scaring the valve guide ID'S up ? Thx for the video,...tom
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
no it actually doesnt leave any traces of the arbor even being there
@4speed3pedals Жыл бұрын
I didn't see you lubricate the threads. It would have made for more success even with a lower grade nut. If a nut starts to gall and mess up threads, use a zizz wheel and cut it off and possibly save the decent threads on the stud.
@Stevesbe Жыл бұрын
Harbor freight ftw
@kiesha1045 ай бұрын
I know it's been 2 yrs, but when you put in the guid plates, do you still have to go with self aligning rocker arms?? Rockies question, I know..
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87265 ай бұрын
no you dont but you need hardened pushrods anytime guide plates are used
@kiesha1045 ай бұрын
@@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 mucho grassias
@Engineer_GM_Ford_Chrysler Жыл бұрын
how many heads will those cutters cut??? I would like to do a few sets for different builds and for friends who need them. hopefully they can complete a dozen heads or a dozen pair...
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
Richard I can only tell you what machine shop buddy told me .that was take your time cut small amounts at the time and they will last a long time .I will tell you this the cutters cut just as good on the last cut as they did on the first cut hope this helps you .
@albertvenable4122 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't you take a cutoff wheel or grinder and take alot of the material off the stud bosses and follow up with the cutter to straighten everything back up ? Seems that would increase the life of the bit
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
@@albertvenable4122 I don't see why you couldn't I just never thought of that until now
@b.c4066 Жыл бұрын
Slow speed rotation and feed pressure with lots of coolant and the tool should last for years. Trick is keeping the carbide cool, not side loading it or forcing it, let it cut, take your time.
@michaelmerrill5892 жыл бұрын
What lift cam can you run with the vortec heads after milling the guides down factory vortec heads you can run a lift of .475" how much did you remove when milling them?
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
we put a 540 lift cam in and i cut the guides down so a .530 valve seal works comp 518-16 seals ls 6 yellow springs comp26906-16 with 7816 retainers
@jcanfixall1585 Жыл бұрын
He removed too much!!!
@bricedentel4102 Жыл бұрын
Should have just paid the 200 dollars for beehive springs so for one u didnt have to go through that while u still had to buy atleast .550 lift springs, I did springs and offset retainers, with 1.6 roller rockers so I could get my lift even higher by .030 thousandths
@martinturk4946 Жыл бұрын
LOOSE BELT?
@deviantrebel6326 Жыл бұрын
Is the tool dummy proof? Will it stop when it gets to the right point or depth?
@jcanfixall1585 Жыл бұрын
Obviously not, it didn't stop for him...
@Havasumaker4 ай бұрын
where do you find the info on cut depth for these heads for the rocker studs?
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87264 ай бұрын
The simple thing to do is buy rocker studs then you measure how thick the nut section of the stud is and that's how much you take off the stud bosses
@mikefixel32382 жыл бұрын
How do you know how much to take of the stud boss?
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
Measure stud height of existing studs and figure for new ones to be same height
@Engineer_GM_Ford_Chrysler Жыл бұрын
im wondering if cutting oil is not required??
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
Richard my buddy runs a machine shop and he said with those cutters use no oil
@davevanatta19656 ай бұрын
just wondering why no cutting oil for lube ?
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87266 ай бұрын
my machinist friend told me not to use lube on the cast iron heads
@01deerkiller012 жыл бұрын
Please tell me I'm not the only one that thinks you sound like Ron White
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
yeh i sure have been told that many times
@shaquilledaniel32652 жыл бұрын
Hey what valve seals you use a part number would be great thanks
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
COMP 518-16 .530 THOU WITH A 11/32 VALVE
@Andrew-xf3wb Жыл бұрын
You got a lead on the tools you used for this?
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
Comp cams 4726 cutter #11 HP arbor 4729 cutter .365 HP arbor
@markthegunplumber83762 жыл бұрын
your tooling will love you if you squirt some oil on it occasionally. even motor oil is better than no oil.
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
my buddy is a machinist and he told me not to put any lube on cast iron so i didnt my thinking was it couldnt hurt to use some cutting oil
@miker73184 ай бұрын
Vortec heads probably cracked anyway?
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87264 ай бұрын
They were Crack checked and they are good thanks
@kevinrandall83272 жыл бұрын
Have you not got a stable work bench and some heavy duty G clamps to hold the head down while you pull those head studs out. I know when we’re young and foolish we tended to do things the hard way, but when we get older and are still doing things the hard way we’re being fools, I’m not doubting for one second your expertise because I have done many SBC heads the same way but not on a rickety old table that you have to chase all over the workshop
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
yes kevin i have plenty of clamps and solid benches i really cant tell you why i used the cart instead of a bench after looking back at it really didnt make good sense doing it on the cart but it is what it is thanks for commenting
@donburshaw65052 жыл бұрын
Hind site is 20/20! I am what I am and I ain't what I ain't! When focused on a the problem it's so easy to get tunnel vision, it happens to me all the time but you got it done in the end! And next time you can look good doing it and worry about the little things!
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
@@donburshaw6505 thats exactly me get tunnel vision and wont let it beat me
@HBJY-Cylinder-Head-Factory Жыл бұрын
we're famous cylinder head block factory in China 🙂
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
What heads do you make
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
send me a set of sbc 23 degree aluminum heads and i will see how good they are
@HBJY-Cylinder-Head-Factory Жыл бұрын
do you use whatsApp or email please ?@@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
@@HBJY-Cylinder-Head-Factory I use email I need your email address so we can talk about heads
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
@@HBJY-Cylinder-Head-Factory i use email marktyndall642@gmail.com
@frankyevak196 Жыл бұрын
You don't need cutting oil
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
machine shop friend said not on cast iron
@MrElusive12 жыл бұрын
also please ask your buddy why he said not to use any cutting oil?? or oil??
@jryer117 күн бұрын
Cast iron has a lubricating type property already, so cutting oil actually makes the cutter too gummy, causing less accurate cut.
@wallaceparker25332 жыл бұрын
Just ruined a set of heads. Can't shorten the valve guides that much!!!
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou87262 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that pro engine builders told me what tool to get and how to use it thanks for the comment
@jcanfixall1585 Жыл бұрын
@@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 I think you misunderstood, those heads are junk... Then you put ls springs and 787-16 retainers... That spring and retainer setup is so you don't have to do any machining...
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
@Jcanfixall jc thanks for the comment the heads are just something to play around with the plan was to use standard springs and retainers and valve seals the heads aren't junk they just aren't top shelf heads they have worked great on a 327 for a while now
@jcanfixall1585 Жыл бұрын
@@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 no, vortec's are the best factory heads for the gen 1 sbc... They are junk because you have no clue what you're doing and ruined them... I doubt you been running them and if you are they are going to fail soon!!!
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
@Jcanfixall man it's kind of hard to accept your criticism when I can't find any videos of you and all your knowledge. Thanks for the comment and as I said before the heads were just something to play with they are on a 327 now and work just fine
@rockfordhx2768 Жыл бұрын
Did u use the same cutter tool on both parts the valve stem and guide boss for the screw in stud
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
no sir i used 2 different cutters they were both from comp cams 1was a4726 cutter with a #11 arbor the 2cd cutter 4729 with a .365 arbor
@rockfordhx2768 Жыл бұрын
How did u cut the guide seals down to 100 or 150 did u use the same tool u used to cut the guide boss down just now in this video
@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 Жыл бұрын
The spring pockets and guides are cut at the same time with the one cutter
@trxtech301011 ай бұрын
Pretty cool but jesus man at least use some WD-40 or a spray bottle with some antifreeze to keep that thing cool....
@crookedman9780 Жыл бұрын
I know I’m late to the video, just getting into this, but I have a 292/501 lift mag. comp com, Howard cams stock diameter performance double valve springs, 5/16 in. Diameter, 7.794 in. Length, Universal comp cam push rods. And have a set of vortec heads in the house I wanna put on my 350. My question would I have to do this also.
@markmeister2444 Жыл бұрын
Crooked Man this is the way Pizz Cutter says to do it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fH60h6uZhr57ndk
@jcanfixall1585 Жыл бұрын
Look at PISS-CUTTER PERFORMANCE on KZbin... This guy ruined these heads...