07 -14 dodge avenger rear camber / tire wear

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[@kringle02]

I’ve been working on cars for more then 30 years you did a fine job.

[@emil_ksparkes2546]

The entire repair process was very well explained, the video captured the how to ID and remove the bolts/nuts/arm. Outstanding, informative, Relevant, Knowledgeable. This guy is a Rock Star !!!!!!!!!!

[@richsmith9063]

You deserve an Academy Award for that video (seriously). This video was EXTREMELY helpful and INSPIRATIONAL !!! Thanks.

[@fleabitis]

KZbin can still prove useful! And yours was a powerfully useful, no nonsense, right straight to work, git-r-done video. thanks!

[@Klutch_Undercover]

Great video, very informative. To viewers, the part he replaced is called an "Upper Control Arm" and sometimes referred to as a "Camber Link." Just be sure to mention "Upper" and "Adjustable " when you purchase. O'Reilly's part # is PRE 2CB25213 Precision is the manufacturer

[@uoyebut2151]

would that apply for a g6

[@BigWheel.]

@@uoyebut2151 probably not the part number, but if you know your make (pontiac) model (G6) year (????) And trim level or engine type (Se Gt GTP GXP etc) Rock auto has a pretty good parts finder format, as does o rileys website, and you can look up your specific part that way, which is the same process the employee at the parts store uses.

[@chopperboy4204]

Thank you sir, I was like I cannot find an adjustable camber anywhere! Thank you!

[@jadamentor8451]

I replaced my upper control arm and my tires are still leaning out. Someone said I may need a wheel alignment, any suggestions ?

[@themechanic6117]

Check the bushing on the trailing arm , but you always get a wheel alignment done after replacing parts

[@Manterok]

This is the most informal...informational video I've found on this subject lol. No seriously, it's fun to watch and you made it make sense. Thanks bro

[@themechanic6117]

Thanks for watching

[@bryansutherly1]

Great video. You did a great job explaining exactly what you were doing. Thank you

[@TheAutoTech]

Nice to see you at least got the alignment close! Some of the cars I have to align I wonder how they even drove them to the shop 😂

[@themechanic6117]

I tried my best 👍 it bothers me when I mess something up but it bothers me even more if I don't try to make it right.

[@lboogs1392]

My tire is doing the exact same thing...I was searching and searching and searching for a video on to why it was doing it and found yours 😁 thanks man

[@TheCowgirlNiamh]

Great job! I know having a roadworthy test can be a pain in the ass sometimes but at least it forces people to fix these kinds of issues or keeps them off the roads so I'm glad we have it.

[@themechanic6117]

Where I'm at (chicago) there are no inspections. So people can just drive crap cars till the wheels fall off

[@domingodeejayable]

@@themechanic6117 same here in the philippines

[@domingodeejayable]

roadworthy sounds like australia to me

[@MyMovingCrew]

You got me with the time lapse joke for a second

[@themechanic6117]

😅👍

[@carlosmartinez7578]

Bro your the man I need someone like you working on my vehicles

[@paulnandico2370]

Thanks for the point about the wheel needing to be on the ground to make the adjustment. I wondered how you could do that, so appreciate the input.

[@uberdash007]

Bro your great at explaining tutorials, keep up the great job

[@themechanic6117]

Thank you

[@chimpchowder5774]

I was wondering how you figured you made it level without checking the car! Lol great that you pointed out the issue. Most people would have missed it I'm sure. Good video. Well done. 💪👍👍👍

[@themechanic6117]

Lol nice to see you caught the problem. Thanks for watching 👍

[@Force1Com]

How do you check to make sure a car is level?

[@Force1Com]

lol, I'm just curious

[@austint8748]

Exact video for the exact problem. Thank you

[@jeffmee763]

A great job when I do a job on the suspension in the uk I always put anti-seize lub on if ever it has to come back off it's easier.

[@jhonandreydelfin1974]

The timelapse made my day haha

[@danieldani3212]

You are not only a mechanic.you are best teacher.nice video.keep it.thanks alot.

[@themechanic6117]

Thank you ,I appreciate the kind comment 👍

[@Captionmarvelous]

Cool very cool, I'll put that in my head socket and store it for if & when I need it. Many Thanks!

[@oscargonzalez8518]

Hermano real informative video i learn something else.Thank you God bless you.

[@hpt08]

Had this problem with a jaguar XJ8 x308. Tbh, the whole suspension front and back needed some TLC. Nice work.

[@ZimaletaMotors]

I subscribed, I am a mechanic on my channel but wanted to learn how to do rear alignment, my car is doing same thing, I called a local alignment shop and they said my Chrysler 300 which is rear wheel drive, only front can get adjusted and not the rear, so you helped me figure out that I can just get adjustable control arms for mine, thanks

[@richsmith9063]

Excellent. Spot On. Every note. WOW AMAZING!!!!

[@John.Skelton]

GREAT VIDEO! 👏🏻 WELL DONE! YOU HELPED ME SAVE SO MUCH MONEY! 🤘🏻

[@1001zaki]

I have the sake problem with my car. The thing is I don't see any great mechanics who really do take care of the car and does his best to fix the issue. It's rare that in my country to see good mechanics.

[@LuisRios-yq7xq]

Sounds like you live in my country, Mexico

[@rezdawg72]

Haha ooh ya leveled at the end of video, haha great info, thanks again,

[@jpsmooth616]

Thanks for the video,especially the level on car part.i put the level on ground to find a close to flat surface😂,but this is the best

[@themechanic6117]

You're welcome, Thanks for watching. Don't forget the wheel alignment and you'll be all set

[@jpboileau5473]

Having a level ground is good but when you lift the car, that all goes to hell - make sure the car is level before you adjust the camber.

[@josehorgennovamato5997]

Jose

[@jdoucetteguitar]

That was a great tutorial. Thanks! I feel confident that i can do this procedure.

[@orlandobeltran8562]

your only mistake is that you did not even out the adjuster on the right even adjustment before you install it , you should adjust the length evenly then adjust that if you turn the middle adjuster it will adjust the same length of the adjuster . also you really have to preload before doing the adjustment then tightened the control arm. you are good. its just normal to sometimes forget something but over all you are good .

[@LynxStarAuto]

Another thing that can cause rear negative camber is worn out shocks.

[@jacksonvang3429]

I see the passion in this video do more pls

[@themechanic6117]

Thank you,I appreciate it

[@MrEddieG420]

If you get decent ones from a wreckers that are low KM and have good bushings like i did it will straighten the camber and toe in right up. I changed spindles, upper and lower control arms all wrecker parts no issues

[@jajaid6]

What is the name of the arm he replaced?

[@MrEddieG420]

jajaid6 rear upper control arm. Is what I refer to them as.

[@abwolfsto6039]

Simple to the point video man good job 🙌🏾👏🏾👊🏾💪🏾 thank you for vid god bless you

[@TheDunceMafia]

I will say one thing, the thread is reverse threaded on one end and standard on the other end, because the entire bar should be the same length out on each side when installed you simply twist the middle threaded sleeve to extend it while uninstalled you should hold each end stationary while twisting the sleeve from them being completely threaded in so that it is a even amount out on each side failure to do so may result in weakened linkage because say its almost all the way on one side and other side way out it may only be a couple of threads in the sleeve!! And that is very unsafe

[@DogGone818]

3:10 u good bro? Ngl I did laugh when u said “ I smashed my finger, really pissed me off” I been there

[@themechanic6117]

I'm good 👍😅

[@alejandro2222221]

Good afternoon, I have a problem with my 2011 Dodge Charger. The rear tires have internal wear and the control arm and tie rod on both sides were replaced and the problem of internal wear on the rear tires was not solved. Can you help me with this problem?

[@mpadil]

Also keep in mind that if the shocks or struts are worn out that 90*degree angle will be off. A lot of people over look that part of the cars suspension is the culprit for bad tire wear.

[@nicolenapierkowski5846]

Thank u so much u really showed helped me and explained it well on how to fix my car.. thank u so much ur awesome thanks

[@rp3864]

Thank you bud... Great video... Very educational

[@sonsautomotive]

You need to use the center adjuster only......unwinding the inner you have made the threads uneven from side to side.....if there is to few threads the unit could pull out and new arm could fail....that is the reason one side has reverse threads

[@SteveRobReviews]

You forgot to use your rubber pinch weld hockey puck . On the assembly line only the toe- in is adjusted as all the other are pre set. Nice idea with the level , it's close enough to get to the alignment shop. It's mind blowing the amount of times you hear about nobody has the money to fix their car. Well done buddy.

[@themechanic6117]

I'm not using the pinch weld puck because after the 6th car it fell apart😂piece of junk. Yes the toe is adjustable from factory. I always forget to mention something in my videos 😂👍. I guess it just comes with the area I live in.

[@trinitybegay2636]

I have this issue on my 2010 Chrysler Sebring and I as I understand it they are the same as the Avenger. I have been wondering how to fix it, especially on the bushings. I ordered some bushings from Amazon only could change one because I am doing it all with hand tools. Now, I am thinking I should have just bought the adjustable links. I want to change the other bushings but it is time-consuming with hand tools, but hey got to do what I can with what I got. Good video bro, very insightful... Thanks!!!

[@rezdawg72]

That's great what I'm doing right now, but doing all, upper/lower chamber/toe arms, plus pressing in all new bushings, on a 09 journey though but basically same suspension and in video, before you trued in adjustment was the vehicle leveled first!?!, but thanks for great video and info, chears

[@notme22]

8:20 your mistake was you should’ve lowered the jack stand then lowered the jack so the vehicle was level before adjusting the camber.

[@vinay_tire]

Good way of correcting the faulty camber but is 90° to road surface which is like 0° Camber is ok for such cars?

[@BigDog50001]

The tires looked nasty, I wouldn’t have even wanted to drive as far as a tire shop on those. Great job!

[@themechanic6117]

Yeah they were holding on for dear life . The customer did get new tires and a proper alignment👍

[@wyattoneable]

Great commentary and a good catch at the end for the adjustment. Your on the ball.

[@themechanic6117]

Thank you. I didn't feel right just leaving it after I realized my mistake 👍👍all settled now

[@danielsimpson8929]

Great demonstration.

[@themechanic6117]

Thank you

[@sombut415]

I have same exact problem on my Scion tC.. my rear right tire look just like yours right here.. now I know what to do..

[@themechanic6117]

👍 yes you can fix it with the same idea applied here

[@bmead144]

Really all around good vid -commentary,video, etc... . Right from the start I noticed some good quality tools-always a sign of someone who knows/does good work!

[@justinvaughan3579]

Ain't even watched the video but the picture and title are wrong already. That's camber and toe wear combined. Outside tread is perfect. Camber alone doesn't wear that fast on tires. Both contribute

[@themechanic6117]

This car ended up having a major toe problem (destroyed bushings)

[@allb4dinner962]

I liked the time lapse but that was funny

[@joshuafigueroa6]

I'm 8:03 into your vid. 2 things I see. 1 the cam bolts aren't tightened 2 the torque of the bushing should of been done while the vehicle is on the ground. That's sometimes pretty hard to do for many including for me.

[@joshuafigueroa6]

I didn't think about the car vehicle beening level. Wow good eye. I didn't see that one coming

[@themechanic6117]

Very easy to miss and it almost got me lol 👍😊

[@jomongeorge6860]

Joshua Figueroa

[@mikeymike5026]

So it gets torqued in the air?

[@themechanic6117]

No, it get torqued with the suspension loaded. You want to simulate the car being on the ground

[@Mike_Affholder]

My alignment check came in good but my front and rear tires are wearing out on the inside only, what would be needing replaced do you think?

[@BuiltProject]

great video, will change mine soon!

[@susanlloyd3515]

If it seizes make sure you have a replacement bolt and use an angle grinder to get the old bolt off. I just went through that nightmare with the bottom bolt for my strut

[@HVACRBERT]

great video bro been trying to get daughters car sorted out but between mechanic and her couldnt seem to get to the bottom of the issue now i can instal part and get alignment close so she can get it to alignment shop appreciate the assist

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

Thank you! Your video was very informative and I appreciate the wisdom. Peace

[@themechanic6117]

You're welcome .thanks for watching

[@herminiorobles2084]

How to change the subframe on 2008 dodge Avenger on the rear . And how to replace the tow arms with adjustable one's.?

[@tobyshaffer8934]

great video.. very helpful..

[@themechanic6117]

Glad it was helpful!

[@himansshuguuptaa2778]

Very well explained, What if the platform is uneven where the vehicle has parked, how to correct level ? Thanks.

[@danielochoa831]

informitive video and nice video quality.!

[@themechanic6117]

Thank you

[@avanturatube]

Excellent video. Just put new shocks on ours yesterday, and one tire is shot (belts showing), and the other one is getting close. I think I am going to have to bite the bullet and do this mod.

[@themechanic6117]

Thanks for watching and yes it seems like you'll have to do this repair 👍good luck

[@okla29]

Nice work Bro..

[@cratecruncher6687]

Excessive toe is often the cause of inside tire wear. The excessive negative camber just concentrates the scrub effect of the toe into a smaller area of the contact patch.

[@cratecruncher6687]

@C Hansen I know you are but what am I? Haha.

[@jt8280]

Easy diy, for the common person, great job ! Your thoughts on the 2.4 vvt Chrysler engine please.

[@robertotrinanes1744]

Thanks for your lesson 👍

[@rodolforomero7192]

Muy buen video espero encontrar esa pieza para mi Journey en Mexico gracias!!!

[@rickybrown6585]

Good job sir

[@TSimms7]

my first time doing the same control arms on my gf's car, went easy breezy. yesterday however , the upper bolt was a PITA , and the one coming off the knuckle is seized into the bushing sleeve like you wouldn't believe. And these bushings don't have much of a lip to use with a ball joint puller kit. probably crater it in the socket. So , decided instead of effing a bunch of stuff up, spent a few bucks on rock auto. I felt defeated . 🥺

[@johnjarnac6507]

This is for front right? What if u have problem with the rear mine flares out on my 2007 jeep compass. Is that upper control arm to. Somebody said its when they tow ur car.

[@nfarc7542]

The tire wear pictured is from a bad toe adjustment, not the camber adjustment.

[@themechanic6117]

Yeah I later found bad bushings on this car causing the toe to be out

[@remknock]

How do you adjust the rear toe in? My rear toe is severely off and makes it want to slide off at freeway speeds

[@rolandoreyes533]

My ford flex has this problem too!

[@mackenzielamb6513]

Dude, my hands get all kinds of messed up. Lol I like my battle wounds.

[@tom-ns9ij]

Why do you think this is a camber problem? In my experience this is caused by a serious toe out. Toe out of the rear wheels, if those tires were indeed on the rear for most of their life, i.e. not being rotated. Camber does not cause such a wear pattern.

[@themechanic6117]

You could physically see the excessive negative camber. I don't think this car has toe adjustment back there and the lower arm and bushing was replaced. By using the adjustable arms the shop was able to get it into spec.

[@titaniumlh]

Actually Nick I have the Dodge Avenger Factory manual and there is a toe adjustment bar for that vehicle it's not the upper arm it's down next to the lower arm and it is called a toe link adjustment and it has a bolt and cam assembly to adjust the toe-in and toe out of the rear wheels I know this because the bushings on mine I have gone bad and I've ordered new toe link bars online and they're being shipped to me right now I had the same exact problem with my tires but yes that tire wear is an indication of a toe problem I see cars all the time that have negative camber on purpose and their tires don't wear out like that you see people all the time lowering their civics and they on purposely add negative camber to their tires and their tires don't prematurely wear like that that is clearly a toe problem

[@titaniumlh]

If you would like to know where the adjustable toe Link Bar is just Google 2010 Dodge Avenger rear suspension parts you'll find a website that sells mopar parts and they have an expanded view of every part including nut and bolts about entire assembly and part number 27 I believe is the adjustable toe Link Bar so you can adjust the toe on the rear tires of a Dodge Avenger

[@titaniumlh]

It's clearly a toe issue think about it for a second if you have negative camber all of the tire still makes contact with the road it's just that it's slightly different angle in relation to the road but the whole tire makes contact still it changes the way the car drives camber does but it's not dragging the tire the reason that improper toe of the tire wears one side of the tire out fast and the other is if you have an improper tow or angle of the tire in relation to the surface of the road the part of the tire that is at a bad angle to the surface of the road it's not rolling over the way that part of the tire is actually being drug along the road which causes excessive wear on the side of the tire that is being dragged along the surface of the road as opposed to rolling over it which is why improper toe causes most of your tire wear or uneven tire wear camber and caster mainly affect how the vehicle Corners how well it quarters how it acts but the only thing that really will prematurely wear a tire out is improper toe or angle to the relationship of the surface of the road is the only thing that would really cause premature tire wear out you can there's a ton of KZbin videos on alignment Caster camber toe how you can do your own alignment at home I actually do my own alignments with a stream it's really easy it's just tedious but it's easy

[@titaniumlh]

By the way I would just like to add while you technically fixed the camber on the car you did not actually fix the problem the problem is is that all the bushings in the suspension are rotting and worn out and everything is no longer Square in the suspension and there's too much slack which is the result is a negative camber but what you don't see is that the toe Link Bar also has a bushing in it to bushings actually one on the spindle and one on the frame and those bushings have worn out to and what they're doing is they're allowing the tire to go be drug in a positive toe down the road which is why you're getting a premature inside where on the tire also clearly these people never rotate their tires so the weird part is is that the only solution is to actually go in which is what I'm doing and rebuild the entire suspension you go in you order you don't have to order all new parts you just go in and you order new bushings and then you can either have them pressed in at a shop or you can rent a tool that you can manually press in your own bushings and you have to restore everything back so that there's no slack in the system the negative camber will just go away because now everything is nice and tight and then you get the car line to correct the tow and problem soft that's the actual solution to the problem but really it's just worn-out suspension bushings is the issue the car will also drive so much better bushings aren't just there to keep everything Square they also absorb a lot of the impact and energy of the road as well they make a huge difference in how the car drives and feels but I understand not everybody wants to spend the money to do things right and they just want a quick cheap fix I can see someone may not want to put that sort of money in a 8 year old car but if you do and by the way the bushings are only like a hundred bucks and then of course your labor to install them all they are a pain in the ass to put in I agree but along with new struts and springs an 8 year old car can drive like you just drove it off the car lot by replacing the bushings and new Springs because Springs wear out overtime to

[@rod7451]

Do you have a link to the part you used?

[@hieuvong8781]

Can some one please give me a answer what about I replace the lower control arm and upper control arm can it work with the 90 angle tools

[@Vertikala-pc5ig]

Can you tell me what everything could cause negative camber in steer tire? Thanks

[@WalterPuwalowski]

Thank you ., very helpful

[@MeMe-yy9fs]

Thanks a lot! Very useful video!

[@arnoldramos39]

Great video thanks 👍

[@killerdestiny786]

my car rear left tire doing same thing. so what is it called that part for toyota carolla SE 2020

[@donnyfoster1859]

My camber same way on my Mercedes, only issue there it’s unadjustable , need special bolts , i think it’s beyond the bolts now so need bushings

[@themechanic6117]

Check all the bushings, especially on the trailing arm. It can cause this same problem

[@donnyfoster1859]

@@themechanic6117 thank you sir I’m going to check that

[@bigfootdaclown]

MY GUY nice video does it work the same for the front part of the suspension?

[@themechanic6117]

Yes , an alignment shop can determine if something is worn out. Alignments don't normally just go out. There's usually a bushing / balljoint/ suspension that's causing the bad Alignment

[@williamadallen2095]

I like that magnet measurement thing I would like to know where you got that from I want one of them

[@reymondrevilla6996]

sir dont forget to adjust the toe in amd toe out after u align the camber because it useless if u did nit align the.toe it will damage your tire..

[@Nay-mn6ys]

So you don’t have to replace the tires before the alignment

[@themechanic6117]

Yes you do

[@yassineblh]

thnak buddy was awsome to know i will change that part to my civic i have to mutch positif camber on front xheels ans so mutch at rear i will change them then

[@themechanic6117]

Thanks for watching 👍

[@Oleg85ful]

You have to inspect all bushes and ball joints before fitting adjustable control arms.

[@themechanic6117]

I did, it's not in the video but I did. I even replaced the lower arm and the bushing on the knuckle

[@TheJackal342]

Ok, so I replaced both of my upper control arms, but the only ones for sale near me where non adjustable. The tires are still like these were in your video before you did the work. If they're not meant to be adjustable, what causes them to still be out of alignment when buying a non adjustable arm? I'm working on a 2013 Chrysler 200. Thanks!

[@themechanic6117]

There's bushings on the trailing arm that get destroyed and cause the alignment to be out

[@dcrobinson77]

Good video, very helpful!

[@angelocasio6189]

THANK YOU

[@zaino660]

Good job man..cheers..

[@themechanic6117]

Thank you

[@scottcrowley2061]

Nice useful video.

[@josesorola2595]

What about the other bushing ?..the new part has new bushing but in my case the other bushing is bad

[@Rider_2013_]

Link to the upper control arm or where you got it?

[@AfrikaVibes]

You adjusted the angle with wheels up

[@robertduncan2742]

Theres a good chance that by replacing the arms you did and at equal lengths and if not much else wrong one may not need alignment depending on the driving and wheel movements in the steering wheel

[@themechanic6117]

Its possible but a wheel alignment is best and a lot cheaper than eating through tires

[@robertduncan2742]

@@themechanic6117 so true but people with very little might not be able to afford things. Been there working on cars myself I understand since theres tons of questions asked and charges today are outrageous. Good job