07 Antagonistic Pulls - What You Need to Start Correcting Your Posture

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

In this video, we look at coordinating multiple movements together simultaneously in order to produce the antagonistic pulls needed to pull the fascia of the body taut. Some of the images used in the video were made by Jeando Masoero. I offer lessons in the Initial Alexander Technique, which are conducted one-on-one with a teacher over Zoom. They are designed to help you gain conscious control over how you move your body. Most people have no idea what they’re doing with their body, and as they misuse their body, they end up with discomfort, pain, and other issues that they may not even realize are caused by what they’re doing to themselves. But how do you figure out what you’re doing wrong? And how do you change what you're doing and overcome lifelong habits? In an Initial Alexander Technique lesson, you will record yourself through Zoom, so you will be able to see and understand what you are doing when you stand, sit, walk, and perform other simple gestures. With the assistance of your teacher, you will come to understand how you are misusing the mechanisms of your body, and you will gain the ability to choose to use yourself in a more sensible way. You can learn how to use your body without pain. You can break free from long held habits. All you need is a system that works. For more information or to book a lesson, please visit my website: mechanicsofpoise.com/ You can contact me at: [e-mail] "The conscious adjustment of the global segmental geometry generates what FM called positions of mechanical advantage and antagonistic pulls, i.e. support and springs resistance, so that most everyday perturbations can be overcome without direct effort or attention. In this way, the correct use of the musculoskeletal mechanism encourages true “non-doing” and a state of responsiveness and flexibility of execution in the motor system. Non-doing is not an intention, it is the result of a correct use of the musculoskeletal system." Jeando Masoero

[@markwottny9780]

Great explanation, thank you so much

[@infiniteawareness69]

I’m a contortionist and this is awesome information thank you

[@Tom-ts5qd]

Can you make a video about biotensegrity / tensegrity like introduced from stephen m levis or thomas myers?

[@dakotahsimonson631]

Can u speak more about this and how thus relates to breath rate???

[@SemFromAmsterdam13]

Bro you have to go super far forward with you head and then walk lika a zombie you perhaps will see it to. It is possible

[@WilliamsWrestlin]

Are you familiar with functional patterns? If so, what do you think about their approach to restoring function through movement? The creator of the system is deemed to be dogmatic in his approach to physical training but he does try to attack functional deficiencies in human movement

[@TheLoko154]

Good stuff!

[@jim5735]

What separates this “proper posture” from what medicine has called “flatback” posture? Because from what it looks like, you are describing what they would call “flatback”, which people say causes problems. Does “flatback” posture not cause problems?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Flat back posture is described in different ways and most of the images you find by searching it will show a diagram or a person faking the flat back posture (essentially impersonating the posture as part of some explanation of how to undo it). Most models of flat back posture show the pelvis pushed forward and the head retracted, which is very much different from the model I support. Others show something very extreme where the ribcage is noticeably pulled down and is low. That is, again, quite different from what I support.

[@jim5735]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 ok, thank you for clarifying

[@Matty-H]

Basically, to keep it broad and simple for people who dont get it,, imagine your body and head is like a spring, keep that spring fully stretched and taut 24/7 and you will see changes eventually as the fascia stretches to its full length due to the lengthened positions of the bony points.

[@yohanesbelihu1711]

Howwwww PLS help the vid is so complicated

[@anticringe0]

Why so complicated?

[@zzrroott6459]

​@@panchui4 😂

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Which part is seeming too complicated?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

@@panchui4 If someone merely attempt to “do PPT” they will not inherently move their pelvis back in space, as it’s certainly possible to rotate the pelvis without moving it in space. If someone were to simply “do PPT” and “no rib flair” they would likely fall into the exact problem that I describe, which is the retraction of the upper torso - meaning there will be no lengthening of the thoracolumbar fascia. Further, if they did actually get the pelvis back using just those two directions, they would probably fall backwards if they did not lean their head down and forward as that would be too much weight back without an antagonistic force. While it’s possible to break out the directions and describe them simply as you have, it’s the nuances that I detail in the video that make the gesture actually capable of producing a meaningful and lasting change. Can you tell me what is mumbo jumbo? I looked through the script for this video and I didn’t think there was much complex verbiage, but it would be helpful to know what phrases or terms are unclear.

[@panchui4]

I wrote a rough comment, not sure why ,so I deleted it. I Appreciate that you answered and not deleted. I read what you say and it's beyond my comprehension.

[@RafaelLima-ce1rh]

Knowledge is pain my dude

[@Matty-H]

What directions can i use to improve under eye support?

[@zzrroott6459]

Cheekbone surgery or something to widen the maxilla

[@zzrroott6459]

eye area can never be truly fixed. I thank my mom for my perfect eye area

[@astroman0500]

I haven't experienced much ribcage lift, but I certainly feel a stretch in the it bands while trying to rotate my hips and a kind of stretching/exertion on the lumbar back and erector muscles, and my entire weight is much more centered on my feet. Does that means I'm making the right adjustments? Sometimes I do feel like falling back and my glutes are much more "active" even while standing.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

The feelings are not what determine success, but the feelings you describe do sound generally correct. If you’re relatively new to this, and you didn’t at any point feel like you were falling back, that would likely be a sign that you are not going back far enough. The weight of the body should go more through the backs of the legs and the heel. The next video in the series will add some additional directions that should help. Remember, if you’re doing this on your own, you need visual feedback to determine what you’re doing and to judge success.

[@dakotahsimonson631]

This actually changed my breathing I don't breath much now 😮

[@loicmartinez1668]

It could be easier to understand the movements by explaining the role of certain muscles as movement is achieved by muscles shortenings and lengthening. Like should we contract the glutes, the transverse?

[@SemFromAmsterdam13]

How bout the breathwork from alex and masoero what they advice ?

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

The most important thing for breathing is to get the torso appropriately lengthened and widened. Breathing is one of the few things we don’t consciously control in this system, it will naturally improve when the torso is not unduly bent and shortened. There are some procedures for adjusting the torso in order to influence the breath and a few other things, but trying to address breathing before the torso is in good shape is ineffective.

[@Matty-H]

I seem to find it easier pulling the lower sacrum forward and down rather than pulling the illiacs back for the rotation, but will obviously still do the upwards movement of the illiacs while pulling the lower sacrum forward and down

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Just make sure you’re not allowing the pelvis as a whole to stay too far forward. You don’t want the pelvis pulling the upper leg forward and angling the leg forward at the top.

[@Matty-H]

​@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 I'm pulling the sit bones forward while pulling the upper sacrum back along with the illiacs

[@TrevreWxAZ]

Body building helps ones poster as well. Hard to engage these muscles if you haven't used them. Lat pull down and shoulder work outs should help.

[@tunasayl2928]

Hey,i have scoliosis. İs there anything can be harmful to me with this method.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

No, lengthening the torso and lengthening and widening the back will tend to undo a twist of the spine.

[@tunasayl2928]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 thx

[@AHam-tp5xz]

Felt this immediately. Was not expecting it to be so fuckin simple lol psoas feel like it slowly being released and my pelvic feels like it being aligned when I do this. Upper back feels tight as hell like you said. Definitely feel like im stretching something back in place after it being wrong for so long. Also, my breathing feels a bit better and my right hip normally had like a small dull pain. It feel it slowly going away as i do this. What the name of the series for this on your channel? Kinda new to your content.

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

Glad to hear it! One note, you don’t really want the psoas “released,” you want it to be engaged as it’s lengthened. Not sure what your last question means.

[@AHam-tp5xz]

@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 like what playlist of yours this video belongs to? Because I see it video 7.

[@zzrroott6459]

​@@AHam-tp5xz check his playlist

[@elijaht5188]

Bro this actually made me sore 😭

[@tunasayl2928]

4:34 WTF !!

[@Sacrifice.Online.for.Offline]

fitness youtubers be like: *"straight line better than curved"*

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

I've explained in this series that we want the fascia to function properly, which requires that it be made taut. Drooping the pelvis forward and down and allowing the ribcage to go forward at the lower end bends the back, protrudes the abdomen, and makes the fascia of the back slack instead of taut. Can you explain why you think bending the back in this way is beneficial to the fascia or beneficial in any way?

[@erzi3800]

First

[@hassanmiah2139]

Could you make your videos more pragmatic?

[@olympusmons7411]

This a waste of time, don't get into chiro and physio stuff and stick to philosophy. And no we don't disregard the conscious part in rehabilitating a bad posture. We encourage self awareness and give verbal and physical cues to help our patients improve their posture. I find your videos about posture more philosophical than scientific

[@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147]

I’m a little puzzled why this comment is on this video, since I don’t think I mentioned chiropractics or physiotherapy in this video. I think the difference in what I’m proposing and the systems you’ve mentioned could be made evident if you gave a few examples of what you mean by verbal or physical cues. Do you provide the person with a system to put those cues into action? Or will they rely on their currently faulty kinesthetics to implement the cues however they can? How will they know if they’re succeeding or not? Are there sufficient cues to coordinate the movements of multiple parts of the body together, or are they localized and individual cues?