Boost Your Bone Density with These 6 Life-Changing Tips

[@politerabbit3100]

I improved my osteoporosis by increasing sups D3/K2, calcium, boron, zinc, vit. C, magnesium, and protein. I also bought a vibration plate (10-15 min 5x/week), walking 30 minutes most days, and cutting out dark colas containing phosphorus acid. I improved my bone density by 5.6% in 2 years. It's a slow process, but I was just trying to not get worse.

[@marynewman9180]

Thanks for posting your experience!

[@emmaleechase613]

I’m glad to hear that you’re taking vitamin D & K2. Really important.

[@althe]

All good and the proof is in the pudding. Boron and Protein are your number one positive causative factors, lacking in those with osteoporosis. Vegans often have bad bones due to anti-nutrients and endotoxins in plants that block mineral absorption.

[@BonnieJean4578]

Good for you! Thanks for sharing.

[@debmurray2734]

Appreciate you sharing. What type of vibration plate did you get? Thank you!

[@barbaraannmiller170]

I'm so thankful that at 72 years of age I still have normal bone density.

[@vbiddy]

Do you take HRT? Weight bearing exercise?

[@lunasky5635]

I’m so happy you’re happy. Classic line from “All about Eve” voiced by Betty Davis.

[@suestovall5911]

Me too

[@karagi101]

Normal for a 72 year old?

[@if7555]

Do you know why? Can you share why? Thanks a lot.

[@JoannJerger]

I 'm 83 doing pilates. My spine has stabilized & added bone to my hip. I've had 2 bone density tests, each showed small improvements each time.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

That is simply amazing. Way to go!

[@BBurns-vg9om]

I have been weight training with a trainer for a year. Had a Rems test yesterday. I have gained an inch in height. 3 percent increase on the left hip. 4 Percent on the right hip. 3 percent in the spine. My strength in the bones is,33.4. So pleased. It works!!. Lifting heavy and jumping.❤

[@reginasimon8784]

The things to do: 1. Weight bearing exercises -walking, Add a weighted vest-- Start slowly 2. Strength training-squats, lunges, leg press, overhead press, rows 3. Balanced diet- Calcium (low fat dairy, almonds, green, leafy vegetables), Vitamin D 800-1,000 mg take supplements Zinc, When taking Vitamin D supplements eat a couple nuts with it, protein 4. Avoid alcohol. 5. Caffeine 6. HRT in menopausal woman

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thanks

[@lisabevans8107]

You don't need protein with vitamin d, you need fat as it is fat soluble.

[@slimelove3493]

Merçi

[@happymouse442]

You need good fat. Low fat diary is not healthy atn= all

[@ylive5169]

😂 I saw the strikeout on the weighted vest! Seriously, I say I already have to carry all this weight - don't desire to pay for extra!! 😆

[@ginac2772]

I have osteopenia and address it by going to OsteoStrong weekly (osteogenic loading based on Wolff's law), go to stregth training classes 3x /week, at home do squats, jump squats, sit to stand, push ups on the countertop, take AlgaeCal, Strontium citrate, Vit D, E A, K, prunes for boron, use cronometer APP to monitor protein, calcium and other nutrients in my food, zero sugar or processed food. Get a REMS test if available near you, in addition (or instead of) DXA scan. I'm 70 and do NOT want to break my hip!

[@pionus3651]

I’m 70, I also got to Osteo Strong and have rems scan. My bones are all in the green like a 40-year-olds but I’ve been doing weight-bearing exercises for 20 years. I walked with the weight vest and I go to Osteo Strong started in 20 21 because I never ever heard of it. I love that. I’m in the green.

[@ArtStoriesWithKris]

@@pionus3651 that is so great to hear. Congratulations. I just checked and there's no osteo strong in my state. Very depressing. I started, after compression fracture, to do strength training and weight lifting. We don't have REMS scans near where I live either.

[@teresaclutter9757]

How long have you been doin this regiment? How is your progress?

[@ArtStoriesWithKris]

I googled to see the advantages of REMS over Dexa. I found this. REMS can provide additional information about bone quality, in addition to bone mineral density (BMD).

[@rc24888]

Good work!!! My wife has essentially the same protocol. Rems was a good idea, gave her more hope...watch the strontium though....look into the enero program. You can do a modified version at home.🎉🎉

[@sanddollar252]

I love that doctors are willing to do these videos now, as most of the docs we see in the office are in such a hurry, and so preoccupied, they really don’t help much. For example, in four years I’ve had 8 vertebrae fractures, a sacral fracture (hell on earth), and a foot fracture; but no doctor - orthopedic or primary care - has ever done a bone density test or even suggested so much as a calcium supplement. And I might add, these fractures happened one at a time, not all at once.

[@kelmac1618]

Yikes!!! I hope you will contact your provider and ask about having a scan. Wishing you wellness and a future free of such painful events! 🫶🏼

[@janeandrews1790]

Advocate for yourself. Research and ask questions. And for heaven's sake get different medical providers!

[@lenitaphillips2186]

Please tell me at least they checked your blood levels for Vitamin D and any calcium deficiency. Do you have osteoporosis? A proven diagnosis? (Get copies of your results if you do). When you go to the doctor take someone who cares and will ask and put questions on the table you might want to know about. They can be on your phone FaceTime. Let the doctor know. If you don’t answers, get a consult with another doctor. You don’t have those fractures unless you have been through chemo or have something else going on. You need to know for sure what is causing them. Most insurance companies pay for 2nd opinions. Take your test results with you. It sounds like you are a patient of “gaslighting”; unless you have a diagnosis you haven’t mentioned.

[@vegangirll]

Calcium pills cause heart attacks.

[@MeTreesndirt]

​@@kelmac1618. She needs to give that so-called the booT

[@kathi7786]

Marathon runner here- broke my distal fibula (tripped whilst running) on my left leg- healed up nicely in 8 weeks- got back out there running, trained & raced a half marathon, was 3 weeks away from racing and marathon, fell again broke my distal fibula on my right leg…at 48 yrs old I was completely uneducated and ignorant re: the importance of strength/weight training, diet/supplement impacts. When I asked my doc about what I should be doing as a female athlete my age- he suggested I talk to other women my age in my running group….thanks doc!

[@sparky7915]

I have some osteoarthritis. Every day I make myself a big pot of tea consisting of 2 bags peppermint tea 2 bags camomile tea 2 bags of rosehip tea 2 bags of turmeric tea with ginger Sometimes I add a tablespoon of honey to the mix. Breakfast drink made with bullet mixer 2 clementines 2 tablespoons of honey 1 packet of vitamin C 1 packet of gelatin 1 tablespoon of ginger 1 tablespoon of cinnamon 1 tablespoon of turmeric powder a dash or two of pepper pour orange juice (with pulp) into container until full Mix this with the blender - a great healthy drink in the morning

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thanks for sharing

[@MeTreesndirt]

Add some psysillium. Silly_ ummm. Ha!

[@ant713m]

All that honey and oranjuice is bad for you. You're stacking up on fructose which in excess causes non alcoholic fatty liver. You can get all the vitamins c you need from broccoli and its low carb. Also powder turmeric isn't doing anything for you. India ayurveda recommends whole fresh turmeric

[@ZonyKay]

So sweet (honey, oj)

[@janist6626]

I am 74 years old. I have been on HRT for 35 years. Last week I had bone density test and my bone density improved from osteoporosis to osteopenia I do not drink nor smoke. I also have not eaten any fast foods in 25 years. My gyn has begged me to stop HRT. My PCP prescribes HRT for me. Breasts are fine and sexual activity still exists.

[@vanitagomes3794]

You mean your bones are better because of HRT. Here all the gyns say HRT gives cancer. . I am 50 got Meno pause at 46 and suffering for 4😢 yrs. No sexual activity I just don't feel anything. No sleep, tiredness, frequent urination osteopenia in some places. Please share your HRT docs name

[@gretchenolson316]

Dr. Mary Claire Haver. Website has list of providers

[@sohailakoda1680]

I guess you were lucky..

[@vanitagomes3794]

@@janist6626 did you do anything else to improve bone density Like calcium tablets

[@bychelo2139]

It’s not luck

[@Propfaqs]

I was 54 and had a routine at lunch of walking a mile in the neighborhood rather than gossiping in the teachers’ lounge. The first leg of the walk included a small hill which usually gave no problem. Walked straight down it 5x a week. Then one day… excruciating pain!! The first orthopedic surgeon said it was a meniscus tear and I was scheduled for surgery. My brother urged me to get a second opinion and after an MRI and x-rays, I was told it was a femoral fracture!!! That made me really mad at the 1st doctor. Quack. It healed. No surgery. No problems since with that leg. Ever since, I use the ski slope transverse on any hill, back and forth. Everyone should do that!!! Any hill, every time!!!

[@Kidges]

How do you do a ski slope transverse? Thank you 😊

[@annie_charcheologist]

@@Kidgesalso after more explanation of this

[@dink8125]

Thank you for that simple, straight forward answer. I walk to & from a grocery store I use. Slightly hilly walk, about 1.5 miles. I have trouble with the "hilly" part..I was born a "flatlander". The zig zag will..I think!..divert my brain's attention from the breathtaking (literally) "hilliness". 83 y.o. female here. And, yes, I walk both ways. Thank you again! ​@j.pappas9083

[@kattegler]

it’s a “zig zag” up or down a hill as if you were skiing down a hill. It’s a great way to a fall from loosing your balance.

[@hollywood5703]

@@katteglerZig zag is the only way to skate or ski downhill, without going straight down

[@Tellyawhat4]

I demanded HRT and thankfully, my endocrinologist approved it. Best thing I've ever done! I look and feel 20 years younger than I am. Yes, protein, calcium-rich foods, walking, jogging, running, weight resistance exercises, and Vitamin D3 with Vitamin K2 are all very helpful. Like the weighted vest idea! I'm a Canuck now living in Oz, so always nice to hear that endearing Canadian accent,🎉 plus I enjoyed the fine chemistry you share. You can replace my hip anytime, fellas...in due course. I'm chugging along quite nicely at the moment! Cheers!

[@carolbourque9853]

Were you on HRT and then went off? Ive been off for 15 years and am wondering if it will help to go back on.

[@vanitagomes3794]

@@Tellyawhat4 at what age did you start HRT. What do you eat for breakfast and lunch. Can you share what supplements you take and your exercise routine please. Your information will inspire me to change. I'm 50 and got menopause at 46. Still suffering due to menopause

[@vanitagomes3794]

@@Tellyawhat4 no sleep tiredness frequent urination the list goes on

[@JGalegria]

Why did you have to demand HRT? Doctors seem totally encouraging about menopause hormone therapy

[@hopedickerson7109]

Same!! I will never give up my HRT

[@jcampbell100]

Thanks Docs. you are helping so many people. Please don't stop making these videos. We so appreciate you taking the time out of your busy lives to help us.

[@Pamsterdam75]

I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and I've taken HRT since menopause back when I was in my late 40's, I'm turning 70 next year. It has been a life saver for my bones and it has given me great benefits all round, even with skin, hair etc.

[@juliebrown8375]

I made the mistake of going off HRT and my bone density clearly dropped even though I exercise regularly. I'm back on it, mostly because of bone density concerns.

[@TeresaBryant-lq3ue]

Did it bring back your periods?

[@juliebrown8375]

@@TeresaBryant-lq3ue No. If you have any post-menopausal bleeding, see your doctor right away.

[@Pamsterdam75]

@@TeresaBryant-lq3ue No not at all.

[@Vimlan123]

Hi 👋 I'm also turning 70 march 8 next year...wrongly diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis but have osteoarthritis...going for mri this week...going to do all natural to avoid surgery 😊 🎉🎉🎉🎉love from South Africa 🇿🇦 💖

[@elenanyhan4490]

My case is kind of weird. I am a 69 y/o female physician. I have been active all my life, including running hundreds of miles training for marathons. No family history, I never drank or smoked, didn't drink a lot of soda, had lots of calcium-containing foods, no stomach issues so never took PPIs.. Only mistakes: vegetarian, so not enough protein, Zoloft for postpartum depression (amazingly helpful), and only took HRT for 2 years after menopause at age 52 (THANKS, Women's Health Initiative, NOT!!) In 2015, I flew over the handlebars of my mountain bike, while speeding down a steep hill. I dropped about 10 feet and landed on hard dirt on my right side. It fractured my pelvis in two places. Very violent crash, but in 3 weeks I was back to walking normally. My orthopedist cracked a joke: "You gave yourself a DEXA scan! If you'd had osteoporosis your pelvis would've shattered!" So, I never gave having bad bones a thought. Fast forward to 2024. Skiing with my husband. I got stuck on my inside ski and couldn't turn fast enough. I was headed at a fence, so I stopped myself by sitting down. It was literally nothing! Didn't hurt or feel weird. I didn't give it another thought. I got up and skied off. But the next few runs were strange; my legs felt weak and wobbly, and I couldn't control my skis. Thinking I was having a bad day, I stopped for the day. Over the next few days my midback tightened up, and by day 3 I was in serious pain. Moving even slightly brought tears to my eyes. Trying to lie down and then rise out of bed was agonizing. I had to sleep sitting up in an armchair. I had never had back pain before, but thought, "Wow! No wonder people complain!" Finally I couldn't take it anymore so I went to the clinic I work at and had a colleague order an Xray. I had a compression fracture in my L1 vertebra! It was confirmed with an MRI and then a DEXA scan showed a T score of -2.9 in my spine. Nobody was ever as surprised as I was at that diagnosis. I'd spent years doing rough and tumble things, crashing bikes, falling off horses, jumping off roofs, that sort of stuff. I thought and thought about it, and then it occurred to me. Between the awful bike crash, and the teeny-weeny little sit-down in the snow, I had had Covid four times. Covid is a very inflammatory state that does a number on every part of your body. The bones have Ace2 receptors, and studies in mice show rapid bone loss with a Covid infection. I can't prove it, but I think that is what changed to cause this. I am now eating meat, using a vibration plate, a weighted vest, and exercise bands. I do squats with a 10 pound dumbbell. I am taking collagen, Chinese herbal mixtures, vit D, vit K, calcium, French Maritime Pine Bark, lactoferrin, prunes, and my endocrinologist started me on Tymlos injections. Oh, yeah, and back on HRT in the form of an estradiol patch and Prometrium. Can't wait for my next DEXA scan, and hope it will show that I have repaired my bones. I think Covid helped break them down (and yes, fully vaccinated, and wear an N95 mask when seeing sick patients).

[@martinwallace5734]

We are becoming much more aware of the vital role of vitamin K2. In short, most people have plenty of calcium in their diet. D3 helps to get it absorbed from the food into the bloodstream. However, without K2 the calcium can be deposited where it is not wanted: in the arteries, on the heart valves, on soft tissues, on the spinal ligaments (DISH). K2 is essential in getting the calcium into the bones and teeth. How to get K2? Fermented foods (natto, sauerkraut, some cheeses, organ meats) are a source, but apart from natto it is hard to get enough. So most people should supplement.

[@geronimoflyingfree]

K1 is really important, that's right...😊 but what about just eating..greens? 😁 edit: sorry, just realized you were specifically speaking about K2 and not K1! Actually in this context (bones) it makes much more sense.. 😅 sorry again!

[@martinwallace5734]

@@geronimoflyingfree No worries. As you suggest, most people get enough K1 from food. It's necessary for clotting, especially. To be honest, although K2 has been known about for nearly 100 years, it's only in the last 20 years or less that awareness has grown of its importance to bone health. It was first really noticed in Japan, where some people eat a lot of natto, and it was noticed that the natto eaters had noticeably lower rates of osteoporosis. Eventually it was narrowed down to the effect of K2.

[@sheryljackson8068]

Buy a D3 supplement that is also K2....D3K2. That is how we need to take a vit d supplement

[@plumeria66]

K2 is easily gotten by eating eggs or animal protein. It’s not that hard to get.

[@mariav1234]

@@geronimoflyingfree I heard that K1 is transformed in K2 inside the body.

[@ushiefreebird7470]

Hi, I live in Southern France for 15 years, and I do as the French do: We walk a lot naturally. I live on a little hill and have to carry my shopping stuff uphill every day. We eat natural food. I take no medication and no supplements. My blood pressure is a bit high, but I negotiated with my doctor to loose weight and reduce salt and eat more Kalium (potassium) rich food, which is easy as I love fruits and vegs. I also love fish.Lots of herbs, chick peas, garlic, salat etc every day. I have a fresh outdoor food market around the corner. Fresh bread every day from the local bakery. With good butter and jam in the morning. I have cut down on my coffee intake quite a bit. Had lots of coffee before, now only in the morning mostly. But in winter I have a hot chocolate in the evening (in France this means pure cocoa powder and a little sugar, not that artificial stuff you have in America). I love being outside in the sun. Oh, actually this is one supplement I take, only in winter: Vit D. Around 800 I think. Not every day, but often. Having become French I believe in my daily wine, plus regulary sex. I think this is totally underestimated, the sex. It is what keeps us young and healthy. My neighbour just died aged 101. She made the mistake to go to hospital to cure a cold/bronchitis. Was fine, apart from the cold, when she walked in. Got out dead. What a pity. I was married to a doctor for 27 years, so I know what I am talking about. Although these two seem very nice and goodlooking :-) Greetings from France.

[@Peony25001]

I'm Canadian and we do the same in our house except we make our own fresh bread and keep a garden to preserve our own jams, pickles, sauerkraut etc .. I think that living simply helps. I love knowing that no matter where you live in the world, the same habits seem to apply. Stay healthy everybody!

[@26Obsidian]

@@Peony25001Fully agree! 👍🏼

[@vanitagomes3794]

@@ushiefreebird7470 Hi whats your age. Are you menopausal.

[@ushiefreebird7470]

@@Peony25001 I cannot agree more. Lucky you have a garden!

[@maryfuzzell6262]

good lord..the French, I love how you love yourselves.

[@Lisa-du6pv]

At age 63 started walking with a weighted vest. Depending on fitness level I would recommend wearing around the house doing routine activities first before going out and walking for miles. I started with 8# and increased over the past 11 months to 14#. I walk in a rural area up hills and on uneven surfaces and gravel roads. If I were walking on flat ground in town would most certainly add more weight.

[@KathySheets-d4o]

Like the ideal!

[@Nate1975]

Did you notice any particular benefit to wearing the vest?

[@slaugeri1344]

I’m a 66 year old woman, who after having 4 lumbar discs replaced & spinal fusion October ‘23, found out May of ‘24 I have severe osteoporosis & my back pain was caused by fractures in my spine & right hip. They “cemented” the spinal fractures, which finally brought an enormous amount of pain relief. I was vegetarian for about 50 of my 66 years. In October’23, just prior to surgery, I had a craving for red meat & satisfied that craving. This year, I gave myself permission to eat any protein I felt a desire for. I am now a full fledged carnivore, I also allow myself organic yogurt, kefir & milk & eat grass fed, antibiotic free meats when available where I live in PR. I am returning to the states by the end of ‘24 & will be looking for a Dr to help me with this silent, insidious disease does to the body. Thank you so much for your help & information!

[@slimelove3493]

Did eating the meats and protein effect your osteoporosis ? I’m glad you are pain free now

[@HelenSinger]

Take a loan and just come to Canada. The system there is garbage.

[@teena1054]

I'm 64 and have had no bone density issues and am on no medicatoins. I am very healthy

[@angieagentlesoul]

what did you want from this discussion then?

[@missymuffett3435]

64 is young in the context of the era we live in.

[@millie9236]

I've never used HRT. I'm 61 and 21 years into menopause. I have the densest bones my Ortho (who I used to work for) has ever seen. I ride my bike to work and walk and stand all day. I live on the second floor, no elevator. I consume yogurt, cheese, chocolate milk daily. I also have a healthy BMI and well hydrated viscera. I eat fish and nuts, greens and fruits. I don't take supplements but take meds for aggressive Hashimotos.

[@CrystalCane-yh7qc]

And you have good genes

[@Athena-le7rm]

Any dairy products are a mistake to eat. Try plant cheese that digests much better thsn cow cheese and doesn't cause mucus in your body.

[@margaretcoote1429]

Do you take iodine? Every cell in your body needs it check out Dr Bernstein

[@marciamakoviecki3295]

Which supplements?

[@JetJ321]

​@@marciamakoviecki3295She said she doesn't take supplements.

[@DWAIN61]

I have started making mineral water with Celtic salt. The minerals in bones are complex and many. A great exercise is standing on one leg as this engages the muscles necessary to to right yourself instead of heading to the floor.

[@wendymckee6627]

I do this when I brush my teeth. Standing on one leg to help with my balance

[@JubeeBijou]

Exactly how do you make the mineral water?

[@nikkisue1715]

Thank you for this video. I am almost 68 years old and I was diagnosed with osteoporosis at menopause around 52 years of age. My mother also had this silent disease. I have worked out 5 days a week for almost 20 years. My osteoporosis was getting worse so two years ago I decided to use Prolia injections as suggested by my endocrinologist. Just had a DEXA screening and it showed improvement. I tried going naturally, but this was the only method that has made a difference. I also take calcium/Vitamin D supplements with MK7 and Biosil collagen. I am now walking two miles 5 days a week. I will look into adding a weighted vest. Thanks again.

[@RD12349]

@@nikkisue1715 there is class action lawsuit against Prolia. It did major damage to my mom.

[@marciamakoviecki3295]

Are you lifting heavy weights? Cardio isn't enough.

[@vbiddy]

My mother is 72 and has osteoporosis, but her lifestyle I believe is the culprit; low vitamin D, no HRT, no consistent weight bearing exercise and barely eats (long-time thing). Were you lifting weights when you were working out 5x a week? Were you eating enough protein and was your vitamin D optimum? From all my research, pills are not recommended. Bu whatever works for you is great. Sounds like you are taking control over the matter.

[@nikkisue1715]

@@marciamakoviecki3295 I have lifted weights for over 20 years and am still doing it. I am doing everything suggested. I also have hypothyroidism, so it could also be the medication that I am taking and it is hereditary.

[@nikkisue1715]

@@vbiddy Yes. I was lifting weights when I was working out. Thanks for the reply.

[@plants4Ever17]

this vid appears to be a fave for others, not just me. your endorable delivery w/wisdom and humor are priceless.

[@sparky7915]

A great way to save money is to use empty plastic jars an bottles along with a recyclable shopping bag. I fill the jugs and bottles with water and put them in the shopping bag. I exercise with the shopping bag(s). When I need more weight I just add more water bottles. Simple easy.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Wow nice

[@kathysutton2631]

Great!!

[@jlseagull2.060]

Yeah water is heavy if you have enough amount of it.

[@colettejaques2559]

😂ridiculous idea

[@sparky7915]

@@jlseagull2.060 I have been using some empty 1 kg peanut butter jars. Works great. As you need more weight just add another bottle or jar of water. For example, for developing strength in my forearms and wrists I have have a big shopping bag filled with water bottles attached to a round plastic pipe. I roll up the bag forwards and backwards until my forearms are sore.

[@mssmiley5691]

There really isn’t that much controversy regarding HRT. Unfortunately it will take the medical community about ten years to accept the newest research and studies showing its many benefits. The WHI study did immeasurable harm to many women.

[@jenniferhutson8579]

I would disagree with your statement on HRT. There SHOULD NOT be that much controversy about it, but lack of updated and corrected data on the WHI has not yet been incorporated into med school curricula and most attending docs remain oblivious to historical medical errors. Inertia reigns; women suffer. On that we can agree! Recommend Makary’s “Blind Spots: when medicine gets it wrong and what it means for our health”, just published this past September for a fairly good overview of the subject in chapter 2.

[@cate499]

I believe it was intentional too.

[@jenniferhutson8579]

@@cate499 I can’t say anything about that, but the study was flawed from the ground up at the outset. Not even the correct/appropriate demographic of women was selected to participate, something I’m not sure that even Makary mentions.

[@mssmiley5691]

@@jenniferhutson8579 I should have said “isn’t’ that much valid/scientific controversy”. The docs made it sound like there was valid controversy and that’s what my point tried to counter. I ignored the “findings” of the WHI study and am so glad I did. Luckily I had a medical provider who continued to prescribe my estradiol patch. I’m still on it at age 75 and plan to stay on it until I die.

[@lavenderrobins9254]

If your doctor ignorantly suggests you stop HRT because you’ve been on it for five years, find yourself another health professional that cares enough to keep up with the new evidence that HRT is crucial for bone health and numerous other body parts. The book ‘Estrogen Matters’ is a great place to start.

[@nubbyrose87]

Squats, weighted lunges, leg press, overhead press, rows

[@twaltersmt]

EXCELLENT VIDEO! I’ve had osteoporosis for 2 years and am doing all these things (but refused bisphosphonates unless I happen to fracture ). But it took lots of research on my own to put all this in place. I wish I had seen this great video with ALL the right things to do the day after my diagnosis. My bone density has slightly improved over 2 years. This was great, and I hit the subscribe button so I can continue to hear more great health tips. 😊

[@TheHcjfctc]

Thank you! My daughter, 13, has broken her forearm 3 times (right once and left twice), both bones all 3 times. I asked her orthopedist what we could do to strengthen her bones and he just said calcium which she gets plenty of. This is really good to know since she is still quite young. I certainly want her to have good bone density before hitting her peak.

[@Hansen23900]

That’s not normal. Have they checked her vitamin D level? I’ve heard the level should be between 50-80 optimally

[@dianekirk2935]

Has she been checked for coeliac disease - that prevents people absorbing the right nutrients and can cause osteoporosis, as can anorexia

[@Lisa-du6pv]

Vit D with K2 helps with transport of serum calcium to the bone and therefore less likely for serum calcium causing calcifications in the vascular system

[@bethduffus4598]

Thank you for supporting HRT. Such a shame that so many women missed the benefits of this, including the prevention of osteoporosis, because of incorrect advice in the 2000s, . It also reduces the risk of colorectal cancer, although this benefit is not often mentioned.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Welcome. We feel strongly about this. Was not aware of the reduced risk of colorectal cancer. Thanks for sharing

[@calexthompson72]

Only some women can’t take HRT. It can cause cancer in some women. Very BODY is different.

[@conniejohnsoncj8724]

I was diagnosed with early stage breast cancer which was estrogen/progesterone receptor positive meaning the cancer cells fed off those hormones! So for me HRT may have made it worse! Now I’m on pills aromatase inhibitors which eliminates conversion of aromatase into estrogen. Side effects are softening of bones :(

[@louisechristy2675]

Would love to know if would be useful to add HRT for older women who were denied it in their 50s but are now trying to fight osteoporosis in their 60s-70s?

[@Emmajaymusic]

@@louisechristy2675if you have been off for more thsn 10years, drs wont easily prescribe it.

[@cynthia57169]

One of the biggest failures of my life is that when I went through menopause naturally at age 44 no one told me to increase my calcium or in any way to be concerned about osteoporosis.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yes there have been some mistakes in addressing menopause over the years

[@cynthia57169]

@ the upside is that when a coworker went into early menopause through chemotherapy I was able to advise her.

[@alicejyi4705]

Same for me.. I was on medication for just 3 years with some sports..I have improved largely so I am off the medication.. it's curable.

[@miamichaels5999]

I had a complete hysterectomy at age 43 and decided to do HRT. I had a bone density scan done at age 65, so far, so good.

[@terripurciello8113]

I agree. I went through menopause at 42 and no one ever mentioned HRT. I so wish it was considered because at age 60 I have very low bone density in addition to other unpleasant side effects that could have been avoided! I will try some of these suggestions! Trying to avoid those "bone building" meds.

[@chandruk581]

Everyone watching this go find the book the hidden herbs by anette ray

[@SarbjotSingh-un3pg]

started reading it yesterday too

[@joybiswas4213]

great book, unfortunately this industry is all about profit, nothing more, nothing less

[@alaminmomin6800]

I finished that book 2 weeks ago and I can say that is amazing book. Would also recommend it.

[@saleema5000]

that book turned everything around for me

[@ChandMiyabhai0786]

Any book worth banning is a book worth reading - Isaac Asimov.

[@michellebackus2515]

I have severe parathyroid disease. It has really impacted my bone density. Also elevated Ca & renal disease stage 3A. Working out twice a week - will see how that helps. Just started on Prolia. 74 y/o. Thanks for your info

[@akapam57]

I did all of these for years and still developed osteoporosis. Will be going to a specialist.

[@q7zjdwomfvkbj74]

do u eat too much grains bread

[@DCornwell-d2t]

Atherosclerosis was briefly mentioned regarding calcium supplements. I believe taking K2 with Calcium helps the calcium get out of the blood vessels and absorbed into the bones where it belongs. It's helpful to know which form of the supplement being highlighted in video has the most bioavailability. Thank you for your fun and informative content.

[@MeTreesndirt]

These 2 R surgeons. Their knowledge of nutrition is limited by retarded medical schools .

[@vbiddy]

My mom in the past was taking calcium pills and not taking d3/k2 and I believe this caused her to have atherosclerosis. Once I become informed, she stopped.

[@LeilaBessada]

Love your presentations. I watch your spots as often as I can. A mixture of wonderful information with a dash of humour and an easy going style that keeps the viewer engaged to the end. Thank you

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Wow, thank you!

[@macsmiffy2197]

I’m in the UK so we are controlled by NICE as to prescribed medicines. I have Crohn’s disease and was prescribed AdcalD3, but the leaflet advice said not to eat leafy greens or any other food high in calcium. As a vegetarian, that would cut out a lot of foods which carried other health benefits. It didn’t make any sense to me that I should stop eating good food in order to take a pill. My calcium levels are checked and are fine, so I just take D3 with a glass of whole milk. I used to walk a lot before getting hip oa, but I’m 6months post THR and gradually getting my strength and stamina back. We have a long waiting list for orthopaedic surgery, I was 10 years from diagnosis, so I have a long journey back to fitness, but I’m determined to get there.

[@carmenfelder5104]

I am 68 years old, Hispanic women who recently got diagnosed with this bone issues. Of course, I am concerned because I clueless and I find myself now worried. I am in so much pain my knee hurt so much. I guess it time to changed my ways of living eat better learned to exercise and most of all get help . This video very helpful I guess it time to subscribe. Thank you

[@normnicholson]

Love the humour! I cant count how many of your videos I have watched over the past 6 months. 2 weeks post hip replacement. Learned so much about so many subjects. Keep up the good work! Im Canadian too! Victoria.

[@witatter1]

I was always active when i was younger (now 65), lifted weights, was in the Army, walked A LOT, ate right, etc. When i was in my 40’s i was diagnosed with Osteopenia so i was very mindful of weight bearing exercises. I now have Severe Osteoporosis and have had many bone breaks, knee fractures, etc. I did everything right and i still ended up with osteoporosis!

[@lizabennett7979]

Have you tried osteostrong? Not sure how safe it would be but it is suppose to help build bone. I'm 63 and just started it.

[@narelled159]

Are you taking any specific medication for bone loss now?

[@j3d354]

Genetics plays a huge part

[@cherylmlee4298]

@@lizabennett7979 don't do OsteoStrong if you have active fractures - only makes them worse 😞

[@seawolf365]

​@@lizabennett7979What is oseostrong?

[@DarlenePeckham]

HOW do you guys not have 5M subscribers. You two are AWESOME!

[@sadel21]

I have osteoporosis in my left hip due to breast cancer treatment 17 years ago. I do a lot of walking and recently returned to strength training. I have to avoid running or jogging on hard surfaces even for short periods of time because it can trigger debilitating pain in that hip, which can take up to a month to feel better. An endocrinologist wanted to put me on one of those bone building supplements, but I declined because of the scary side effects. He had me take a body scan for fractures. Luckily no fractures so he didn’t insist on the biphosphonates. I try to get my calcium from food but need to supplement, so I take 250 mg tablets three times a day. It’s my understanding that the body can only absorb 300-500 mg at a time and the excess is what contributes to atherosclerosis.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yes the issue with supplements is that your blood calcium goes quite high for a short period of time which can increase risk of heart attack and stroke. This is still uncommon but the impetus for trying to get it from your food so the increase in blood calcium is more gradual

[@lisafred1362]

I ended up taking biphosphenates when my endocrinologist said with the scare of the side effects of bone building drugs, older women have gotten more fractures.. like double the amount. I waited and waited before I started taking, but in my case with bone density so bad, I figured it was a risk benefit ratio. Yes a lot of bad side effects for some people.. but they are not a huge percentage. Talk to anyone who has had multiple fractures and that isn't pleasant either. So I get it.. you are afraid.. .but if talk to anyone who has had compression fractures, that is really bad. I guess you pick which you will risk. I am doing fine on bipshosphate infusion once a year.. Reclast.

[@srice6231]

Yesterday I tried red lentil pasta (the only ingredient is red lentils). It has less carbs and more protein than regular pasta. I really liked it.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Lentils are a super food for sure

[@janegray5835]

I love red lentil pasta and I make it with sautéed arugula, spinach, pine nuts, and garlic. With Parmesan. Protein and vitamin k.

[@JoannaSavage-q8g]

Being gluten free, I was buying this but I can't find it in the shops anymore in Australia. I think they've pulled the product. Trying to find a replacement.

[@kolitiokada9825]

Hey Docs! Was hoping you'd also discuss Vitamin K-2 MK-7 role of directing calcium to the bones & teeth instead of staying in the soft tissue & blood stream.

[@SuperTubeme]

They probably don't know😂

[@pionus3651]

I had to learn that on my own. No doctor ever told me that all they said was take vitamin D and take D3 with K2. I have the bones of a 40-year-old and I’m 70 years old.

[@widyakarmila1201]

​@@pionus3651 Hi,are you a woman? How many years have you been taking D3 With K2 ?

[@ash9x9]

@@SuperTubeme wont be surprised!

[@pharmatais]

I’m a pharmacist in Ontario and I’m so happy I’ve found this channel! Thank you, docs! ❤🇨🇦🇧🇷

[@Kerri-50]

“The bone breaker” lol! You guys are so good! Thank you- entertainment & education!!

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thanks for watching!

[@barbarabrown6441]

Thank you for this video. I am a strict vegetarian for 38 years and eat properly! Nuts, greens, grains, hi protein, 5type Collagen etc. I exercise daily, ride and jump my horse 4x/week, do weighs, and I never sit down unless I’m in a car. I’m almost 75 and do have mild osteoporosis. I do not take any medications but I do consume supplements. The #1 thing I do daily that these doctors never mentioned that REALLY can help people who can’t do a lot is to use a POWER PLATE! It’s the BEST 3 Dimensional WBV anywhere. I don’t work or them, but have used mine now for about 5 months. I will get another DEXA scan in another 3-4 month and feel strongly my results will be better…and not getting worse is actually better too! And By the way…this is THE therapy astronauts use in space…these Dr’s mentioned that space has no gravity but didn’t do the research as to how they are being helped while in space.

[@PerryEckert]

No study has ever demonstrated that vbibration plates improve BMD. Look up the ViveMore AU 2024 study. You need to absorb more that 4.2 multiples of body weight to trigger osteogenesis in the hip and femur (Deere etal. UK 2012). Research OsteoStrong.

[@michelewilliams4485]

I’m 68 and have been diagnosed with osteoporosis. I refused the medication because of the side effects. However I m WFPB don’t smoke rarely drink and I do all your recommended exercises and supplements except the hormone therapy, I was told because I have not had a period in more than 10 years that there was no point. Do you think it would help me now to ask again? Thanks guys love your videos.

[@elizabethbarranon622]

Same exact situation here. I wonder now at 68 so far past last period if maybe new research suggests HRT might still be beneficial!

[@josieray1543]

I started bioidentical HRT 10 years menopause and my friend started it 20 years menopause. She has increased bone per REM and DXA with HRT combined with Strength and lift training at her local gym. I am also on carnivore diet which got rid of joint pain in my knee and I have spondylosis and osteopenia. My skin, hair and bone are improving with addition of HRT. I’m on continuous, but some bone experts say cyclical helps bone even more so I am researching that. My only supplement is iodine. I love tea but teas are so high in fluoride. Double brewed is not bad so I do that when I really crave tea!

[@Savannah-ed4rv]

What is wfpb?

[@michelewilliams4485]

@ whole Foods plant based.

[@alicejyi4705]

I had it improved in 3 years of the osteoporosis medication then stopped. I had been on HRT 5 years after my menopause and still on it. I follow by sports and food. Hope to keep it going well.

[@southerngirl773]

Thanks for the information! I fear HRT...Have lost several family members to breast cancer before the age of 60. It's a difficult decision!

[@TalkingWithDocs]

For sure complicated. Talk to your doc

[@Savannah-ed4rv]

If you have any history of breast cancer in your family do not take HRT! You can use natural wild yam / progesterone cream instead!

[@lisar3944]

Thank you for advocating for possible use of HRT, explaining its role in bone health, and also pointing out that the WHI study that villainized it was basically bunk. Thanks to my enlightened doc, I have been on HRT since the very start of menopause, and one of my biggest motivators (aside from desperately needing to fix my insomnia problem) was to preserve bone density. Every single (elderly) woman on both sides of my family died due to complications of osteoporosis. Of course it's never listed as a cause of death, which is awfully convenient ;) In any case, aside from basic menopausal symptom relief, I think it is one of the most valuable tools women have to protect their health and overall wellbeing in a variety of ways, not least of which is bone density preservation. This is so important and frankly I can't believe this was glossed over as an extremely important "plus" when doing the calculus between tiny increased risk of breast cancer with HRT (which was not even true) vs the very high chance of developing osteoporosis without it, along with all the pain, loss of mobility, and yes death, that comes with that.

[@stef3565]

entire generation left with poor bones because of that study

[@georgehelmick]

What is HRT?

[@liliaguerrero9169]

​@@georgehelmickhormonal replacement therapy

[@katepeterson7544]

@@georgehelmickEstrogen, Progesterone and Testosterone depending on your situation.

[@wzovko4465]

Thanks to HRT, I developed level 3 invasive Breast Cancer within 12 months of taking it..please do not dismiss the risk!! The type of cancer I had was being fed by the synthetic hormones estrogen & progesterone from the HRT. Please this is a real risk! I have had osteoporosis since 35 years old now 56. I would rather have osteoporosis and manage that than die from breast cancer.

[@rodolfodiazbaeza4073]

I had a vertebra fracture because of a fall while preparing for an operation ,unassisted , in a private hospital bathroom 😢😢It's three months now and with patience my bone is getting better. Thank you for your explanation. Marisa

[@lanierosenberg]

WOW! my neighbor broke his hip falling in a hospital bathroom. I hope you are doing better.

[@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw]

I absolutely did all of these recommendations. Since 1974, I have jogged virtually every single day 5 miles. I made my husband nuts about this. Jogged everywhere. Since 1974 I have taken vitamins supplements rich in calcium, Vit D Mag. I love dairy and drink or eat it every single day, even when it was said it doesn't do much for bones, not absorbed good. I take collagen sjpplement every day, do exercise warmups every day with weight lifting since 1974, eat lots of protein, bone broth, etc and have for decades. I ate the greens every day, pounds of brocoli,I don't smoke, don't drink alcohol, can't drink coffee because of caffeine reaction, I honestly could not have been more concsious of all these recommendations, and I HAVE OSTEOPOROSIS. Mom had it.

[@masulliv55]

Wow

[@Nancy-sj7yg]

Bummer, but likely your osteoporosis would be worse if you hadn't been doing all of that. Plus, DEXA only gives you a partial picture of your bones -

[@aadialogue586]

Sounds hormonal related ...loss of estrogen.

[@southerngirl773]

Absolutely a generic link...My mother also had it!

[@dotboutwell2877]

#ME2

[@marybeth123]

I have ra and also had oesteopenia several years ago but no one told me to do anything about it. So now of course have oestoporosis. Now they suggested I take Prolia and take calcium plus minerals, have taken vitamin d for years. I agreed to take the calcium but after already taking Humira the thought of Prolia too and all the side effects scared me. Now that my bones are destroyed…the first thing they mention is drugs. Of course no one even mentioned anything else…exercise..diet. I think I will stick with walking but can only do so much with ra. Thanks for the information. You guys are great.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Hang in there you can do this. Thanks so much

[@marybeth123]

You’re welcome…only being 58. Have to keep going. 😃

[@sparklej1142]

You can do this. I have RA and osteopenia. All osteopenia means is that your bones are less dense a given amount. I went to a doctor to explain all this and she said, "You don't really have a problem. Right now your bones are denser than mine and I'm in my thirties." Diet and exercise mean so much. I exercise 21/2 hours a day. Not every day, but that's my goal. Cardio drumming-love it to death-yoga, tai chi, weights. Diet? I'm trying to DASH more. I'm 73 and can outlast my grandkids! Hang in there! Blessings!

[@marybeth123]

@@sparklej1142 Thanks for the info…good advice.

[@JMS0906]

I would stay the hell away from Prolia.

[@jm3566]

Would never take prescribed osteoporosis meds. I do definately agree with all the other suggestions.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

It’s a last resort for sure for those who are the extremes of low bone density. Some people need it

[@MrMpecar]

Biophosnates, No try to avoid.

[@helgaculbert4639]

@@MrMpecar I took it out of ignorance (Actonel) more than 10 years ago (for about 5 years) and had a rod inserted into my femur this summer due to a stress fracture which occurred years ago and was just now detected. I did not even have osteoporosis then and still don't now.

[@heatherziegenbein9866]

​​@@TalkingWithDocs my endocrinologist prescribed Tymlos to me 3 months ago. I inject it myself every day for the next 2 years. I'm 58 years old and he said I have the bones of a 78-year-old. I have had osteoarthritis for the last 12 years and was diagnosed with osteoporosis 5 years ago. It's horrible. I shattered my wrist and have had three surgeries in one year. My surgeon at USC says it's the worst he's ever seen and I only fell down two steps. Exactly 10 months later on the exact same steps I fell and fractured my tibia and fibula. I have a prosthetic ankle, all titanium. My injuries have been a life changer as I have been a piano teacher my entire career and I can only play the piano for a few minutes now as the pain is so great in my dominant right wrist. Is it too late for me to try HRT?

[@HA-kw7vq]

I also eat prunes / figs / black raisins, just part of my healthy eating. 😌

[@jenniferhutson8579]

@@HA-kw7vq There are several studies confirming the efficacy of eating 4-6 prunes per day to build BMD.

[@sharonsaber223]

I do as well. Studies report eating 50 gm prunes (5-6) daily seems to positively affect bone density and/ or halt bone loss

[@estelamino6356]

Yes. Thanks my bones are getting weak ..day by day ..Gracias

[@TalkingWithDocs]

You are so welcome

[@Judith-wq2jp]

I went into menopause around 2000 and was on HRT for 10 or 12 years because of severe hot flashes. Then my woman doctor put the kibosh on estrogen because of the study you mentioned. Now I STILL HAVE HOT FLASHES ABOUT EVERY HOUR ON THE HOUR. I fell in my garden in 2018 and fractured L4 vertebrae and my tailbone in 2 places. A year later I was diagnosed with COPD to the point where I am on oxygen 24/7, and the medications I take for my breathing can make osteoporosis worse. Still having hourly hot flashes, and am feeling hopeless. Due to my osteoporosis, I know I've had at least 4 collapsed vertebraes and am at least 5 inches shorter than I used to be. Forgot to add that my last bone density test was -2.4; my internist wants me to consider Boniva/etc. type of drugs but I refuse to because I've read the list of side effects. I have an Inogen but only use it for doctor and dental appts as walking farther than 50 steps is exhausting.

[@ant713m]

Sorry to hear. Copd is mainly a smokers disease. If you can stop or reduce it will help you. Also, smoking isn't good for menopause or bones.

[@Judith-wq2jp]

@ant713m Yes, and I no longer smoke at all, the oxygen explosion would blast me to kingdom come.

[@ant713m]

@Judith-wq2jp sorry to hear you're now on oxygen. That's tough.

[@anastasia10017]

1. weight bearing exercise. 2. strength training. 3. balanced diet . 4. avoid alcohol / caffeine/smoking. 5. HRT foer women/ TRT for men 6. bisphosphonates

[@KIARAMILO]

Thanks for the summary❤

[@MS-gi3hc]

Bisphosphonates come with scary side effects:(

[@SumGirls]

@@MS-gi3hccame here to say that!

[@HKGK001]

@@MS-gi3hcso does broken bones!

[@MS-gi3hc]

@@HKGK001 unfortunately that’s a risk from bisphosphonates - hairline fracture

[@amandaverdon2880]

Great information. I recently fractured my distal radius from a fall during pickleball. I'm post-menopausal and not taking HRT. My bone density is improving since last year's scan because I'm doing most of the 6 items discussed. I will talk to my doc about HRT and whether or not I should be taking biophosphates. Thank you for a great presentation.

[@deeshea3286]

Great video! You two always crack me up! You are a super combo.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thank you 😁

[@LisaBeatsCancer]

After 5 month chemo and being on hormone blockers ive lost 8.6 % bone density in 1 year. I need all the help i can get!

[@maryflanagan3193]

Love watching you guys! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!!

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Our pleasure!

[@NancyVelez-h6q]

I started Prolia for osteoporosis back in 2019. In 2023 I had to stop it suddenly due to random episodes of pancreatitis. The 6-month injection was delayed by 11 months. No one warned me of the severe implications of that. I suffered eight vertebral fractions over about 2 months. My life is permanently changed. I was a healthy woman before all this happened. Now I live with chronic pain even though I had three kyphoplasties to repair five of the fractures. Now with the prolia I have been doing daily injections of tymlos to repair and build bone. If I could go back I would never have started Prolia and focused on diet and exercise. There's No Going Back and no one knows what to do with me. And now I've learned I can never go off Prolia or I will be in worse shape. If that's even possible

[@AnnK-o3q]

Bone isn’t just funny. It’s downright humerous!

[@dianemccabe9907]

That just tickles my funny bone!!

[@LBright4444]

Ha-Ha. 😂

[@gigilaroux762]

Humerus

[@saraht4973]

I hope it doesn’t crack me up😂

[@LilyBWB]

😂dork

[@peggybiggs5833]

I'm 71, have been on HRT (compounded bioidenticals) for 20 years, strength trained for 25 years, walk daily, am a big dairy consumer, & have good bone density. For many of my friends who have osteopenia or osteoporosis, is it too late for strength training, calcium, etc? I hear them say it is too late & only meds & injections will help at that point. I worry about them.

[@lisar3944]

who is saying that? I find this surprising as of course we still need to get adequate calcium and other nutrients, and unless the bones are so weak that strength training could cause a fracture, it could only help to start a program? Maybe the concern is that you can't get back to healthy bone density without meds, but saying there is no point in taking these other steps sounds highly questionable.

[@gustc765]

It is not too late. I started serious strength training 10 months ago at age 71. My recent bone density test showed that I have moved from osteoporosis to osteopenia in all three areas of bone tested.

[@azteca6695]

​@@gustc765 You just gave me hope!

[@alicejyi4705]

Not too late.. my doc told me we can't improve it. We can just stop the degradation. Then the story in KZbin is different. I moved from osteoporosis to osteopenia in 1-2 years. I am off the medication after 3 years (the minimum duration). Still don't understand why doc don't tell us what we need to do.

[@marysinclair1214]

I wish I had known about HRT 10 years ago, I'm 62 years old now. Sitting kills me, after watching a movie I can't move right for 5 minutes. I exercise every day and walk over a 1hr a day. I need to start up my dumbell training again.

[@maryangellwalsh]

@marysinclair1214. So often pain is from weak and/or tight muscles, not bones. When you get up from sitting, swing your hips right and left, like Marilyn Monroe, for a few. Usually gets rid of pain in a minute or less. Works for me at 80. Also if knees hurt getting up, try lifting up knees as far as possible in a high knee march. I found helpful quickly. Also taking a Gentle yoga class, will stretch muscles all over body, strengthen those muscles too, and therefore stabilize joints. Keeps us comfortable and younger. Good luck. 🩷🩷🩷🩷

[@staceydickinson8021]

I'm sorry for the suffering you do but it was nice to see somebody who has the same issue I do after sitting with 90° angle. As soon as I go to stand up I'm in so much pain in either the knees or the front of the hips pelvis area and sometimes even my lower back until I get upright and move a bit lol.. nobody ever worn me when I was a kid this was going to happen😅😅😅

[@Helliworldxxyz]

kzbin.info/aero/PLhu1QCKrfgPWmStsg7imo5EQ0zmkxymJ2&si=8WPply5PqDl7h0j_ Just for you Mary!! ❤❤❤ Enjoy her series!

[@mamacitasalsera]

There are women in their 60s and 70s who start taking HRT. Look into it and talk to your doctor.

[@ridinreiners]

My mother (who recently passed away at almost 94), had severe osteoporosis. She suffered 3 pathological fractures over several years, then lost her balance and fell, fracturing her hip. Her mobility deteriorated until she was in long term care and in a wheelchair. Because of my mom’s history, I do strength training twice a week. I’m active outside of the gym as well, but I would feel better if my GP would prescribe HRT, but in spite of being a relatively young doctor, he says HRT is a risk for breast cancer. It’s frustrating.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yes there is a lot of misinformation out there. Maybe consider a second opinion

[@deniserichard5613]

I would like to speak to this as one of my sisters has taken HRT this past year and started bleeding vaginally then was told to stop. Afterwards, it was discovered that the bleeding was caused by precancerous cells. There is no cancer at all in our family of any kind.

[@lisar3944]

yes there is, your sister has it. I'm not trying to be a jerk but it's already well established that *if* hormones (through hrt or natural production in the body) effect cancer, it *may* cause existing cancerous cells to grow more quickly depending on the type of tumor, but there is no evidence that it causes it. There are so many possible causes of cancer, immediately jumping on HRT as the "cause" is off base.

[@JubeeBijou]

HRT does not cause cancer but will feed a cancer already present.

[@Nate1975]

Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately this happens too often to too many women these days to ignore

[@johnbayliss1098]

Thank you guys for being there you are the best

[@KiwiDh383]

Omg these guys go on and on and on.

[@cristie2501]

Great info thanks 🙌. I walk 2 hours a day now and for 1 hour of that I have to carry my son’s heavy backpack. I’ll stop complaining about that now!

[@VDash-Slesinski]

I’ve been taking Compounded HRT for 20 years after surgery for ovarian cancer at the age of 47. My gynecologist oncologist has been writing the prescription for this treatment. I began feeling normal afterwards and continue to feel normal.

[@dicelady4]

Thank you . I learned things not told by my doctors. I’ve had osteopenia then into osteoporosis. My Dr just doesn’t say much. My OBGYN was furious my GP isn’t guiding me more in osteoporosis. I take some vit D and CA and carry my twin grandsons a lot. No one ever mentioned the soda and uptake issues with CA or Vit D with protein. So many little things to learn.

[@andreasissons7766]

Doing weight bearing and strengthening exercises has so many other benefits as well including mental well being. I was an elite athlete in my 40's and my bone density at 50 was 120% of normal. Now at 66 it's just normal. I still do weight bearing and strengthening exercise but I hate to think what my bones would be like if I didn't.

[@onestarabove7027]

I’m not sure if you mentioned boron for bone strength. It has helped with my bones. Prior to hip replacement therapy, X-rays were taken and one year later taken again. The hip surgeon noticed almost no further degeneration right before surgery. I also take a full range of vitamins but no herbs like St. John’s Wort, which mimics estrogen, because of a double saplings oophectomy due to Lynchburg Syndrome and the resultant endometrial cancer. I also have a fourth year old broken ankle which has never been set. I walk fairly well and have generally worked ten hours a day standing and walking. My podiatrist teaches podiatry and said that ankle replacement surgery had such a short duration, he didn’t recommend it. I declined ankle fusion because I really have no pain and walk fine. After my hip surgery, my gait was much better. People who have had kidney replacement may be able to tolerate boron as my understanding is that calcium is damaging. I have a half sister who had the procedure and was okayed for boron for bone strength. I believe it’s a mineral found in vegetables but is depleted in our soil here in the United States. Love you guys!

[@Trissa.33]

Hi there, I was very intrigued to read above that St John's wort mimics estrogen although can't seem to locate anything when I do a general search online. I'd love to know where I could find this information, do you have any sources? Many thanks!

[@sanjaythorat]

I am a male and have osteoporosis at the age of 43 and I do not drink frequently, a non-smoker, take sunlight most of the days during winter and summer, do not take much dairy, have higher level of cholesterol (LDL: 200). I have tea twice a day and eat sweets twice in a week on average. My t-score is -2.5 and z-score is -2.7. Are there chances of improving bone density at this age after following your recommendations, esp. related to exercise and diet? To what extent can I improve it? Can I bring my t-score below -2.0?

[@adriannehamilton2866]

This channel and the Drs are so informative, knowledgeable, smart, and fun while teaching us true information. Always a great learning experience. Thanks Dr. Z😊. Thanks Dr. W.😊

[@dardar267]

@@adriannehamilton2866 don’t forget “good-looking” too😉

[@terrychancellor4593]

I was diagnosed as severe osteoporosis in my mid-forties. Was put on Forteo by my specialist for 2 years and improved my bone mass enough to get out of severe status! Took a year and a half med break, as suggested by my dr, and have been on Prolia ever since (I was allergic to Fosamax). My bone growth has continued to improve much to the surprise of my dr!! My husband still treats me like a china doll, scared everything will break me, but I'm starting to convince him I can do some things!! LOL!! Great video. Did not know about the caffeine during a meal, rats, I love iced tea!

[@carolannhartley359]

It has made me think seriously about going on to decaf. But there are times when I love the buzz.

[@Lazzar1958]

Very informative video Doc's, up until now, I never really understood the full cause & effect of hip fractures, which seems to be very common with the elderly.

[@lindakincaid4530]

good information. I had a THA with BSO at 32. have osteoporosis. I developed it within two years after my THA. I had a rib fx in 2021. I finally got a referral to an endocrinologist. took monthly shots for a year, reclast every year. I'm also taking calcium Vit D , vit K, zinc, vit C and a bone rebuild a friend told me about. I stand a lot for my job as a nurse. I've never smoked, dont drink caffeine or pop. But did for a stent when I was working night shift, but only on occasion. I have always exercised walking several times a week 3 miles x4 days. now bumped it up to 5 miles 4 x week. I might try the weighted vest. I do squats and I did a whole year of P90X a few years ago.

[@goeshen4359]

Thank you for all this information and also I so enjoy how you both present the information, knowledge, facts, humor and speaking to your audience. (There are so doctors that speak with 10 foot words to prove they’ve gotten their medical degree and it’s frustrating for a lay person. I also believe that knowing your audience speaks volumes for one’s intellect. ) Greatly appreciate y’all and your channel.

[@annl.7605]

I have a diagnosis of severe osteoporosis but continue to go to the climbing gym, jump off rocks and trees, run, yoga, etc. I'm 68 now. Scared of taking meds and have a hard time being convinced of the need as all my fall-down-go-booms don't break anything. But the bone doc and endocrinologist are beside themselves. I think that they want me on a medication so that they feel better. I mean, I get the statistics, but practioners need better metrics and more information to determine what makes me an outlier. What about my bone structure is different, and how can that be monitored to know when it would be wise to take a medication.

[@KathleenRobinson-d4u]

I agree with you 100% no medication for me. I do weight training, jog and walk backpack and ski and feel great! I avoid sugar and eat very healthy, dairy, veggies, and steak and lots of fish. I’ve never in in such great shape. I am 62 and just dx osteoporosis.

[@luannhimea3934]

Thanks for the great information. I love that you share your knowledge with us!

[@cherriethomas9538]

We are blessed to have a juvent machine and it is life-changing my mom and late stage congestive heart failure has been using it and we are seeing significant improvements in her she actually got in her car and went and got groceries last week she still gets profoundly tired but I don't think it would have been possible without it.

[@gidget8717]

I just saw a doctor in surgical scrubs give a shout out to Lunatic Fringe! How cool is that 😁👍

[@trishrundquist7437]

I have estrogen positive breast cancer so no HRT for me. In fact I take an estrogen blocker along with calcium and vitamin d. No alcohol but I do like my morning caffeine. Good suggestions!

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Sorry to hear that. You’ve got this Trish!

[@triciadaily4512]

Do magnesium and Vit K2 (MK7)

[@deejayk5939]

I am taking generic Fosamax, have osteopenia in my hips, also eating lots of dairy, tried taking calcium supplements screwed up other things, eating lots of veggies and exercising as much as I can!

[@TalkingWithDocs]

That’s good. Best of luck

[@martinwallace5734]

@@deejayk5939 Be sure tto take vitamin K2 daily... Reduces the risk of the calcium clogging thd arteries.

[@sayusayme7729]

Hi there, I was hit as a pedestrian from behind oct 2, 2020. Just turned 60 in Aug. I’ve been getting the medical run around from insurance companies abs medical doctors. I was not assessed by the emergency department at the time of accident and now because I have all these mobility issues and can’t walk without a walker. I was in excellent shape prior to accident. These issues showed up approximately 2 years after. Immediate symptoms were if instability of current knee replans balance issues with severe pain in pelvis and coccyx area. I need medical intervention and an outside London Ontario doctor. I will be fighting this horrendous practice. Thank you for all i information.

[@salvadordali-m8h]

tahini, made with sesame seeds, is also a good source of calcium.

[@RichRich1955]

I was sunbathing and taking 5,000iu of vit D/day. My level got to 100. Glad I caught it so I could reduce the D.

[@stellawhite2261]

I took HRT for years due to an early hysterectomy and now have breast cancer. It’s hard for me to NOT believe the study.

[@donnaj4528]

Have a first cousin who was on birth control pills all her adult life then went on HRT after menopause. She has been struggling with breast cancer since she was 65…she is now 80. Just had surgery again…they blame the HRT.

[@tammyrickert3130]

Hello fellas! Very Interesting, Thank You Both for Your time helping us understanding our bones better! What's your opinion on vit K2? I would Really Appreciate it! I broke my wrist last summer just cleaning the house. My wrist was hurting for 2 weeks before I went for an X-ray. Then this summer I broke my big toe. I'm 62, and this osteopenia is really getting scarey.❤

[@angeladavies]

Thankyou yes osteopenia so eat 4× yoghurt, sardines, broccoli, almonds...On Prolia, and vitD, k2. Do RT, walk hills pounding downhills. Had a stress fracture tibia and fibula as soon as I became menopause

[@acs5008]

Hi what brand vit D, K2 do you take . What is RT?

[@FLSandye]

Im 68 yo and just got over a fx of my right tibia 2 weeks ago (I had to increase my vitals D) and had a left total hip replacement 6 months ago due to a congenital hip defect. Getting older is not for the weak minded.

[@angeladavies]

@@acs5008 in Melbourne Australia so Chemist Warehouse. *SWISSE* for Vit D. *GO* for k2. 180mcg. RT stands for Resistance Training.

[@angeladavies]

@FLSandye can you pinpoint the cause for your tibia stress fracture!?. Were you doing a certain exercise? Overuse? Lacking minerals for a period of time? You did mention lack of vitamin D. May I enquire your age as I am curious to see if 50+ is the risk group.

[@FLSandye]

​@@angeladaviesI'm 68 yo. I've been taking supplements for many many years. The fall I took could have been preventable (damn remote control chair cords). My ortho doc increased my vit D to 8000 2x a day (ongoing). I had a DEXA scan last week and have entered the osteopenia phase 😢

[@MsWarriordiva]

Thanks!! I was just diagnosed low bone density, but not osteoporosis. My Dr told me increase my vitamin D, which tends to run low. Take vitamin K with it! And calcium, so I've ordered a high grade calcium supplement.

[@ChezzaYu]

Be careful with Calcium supplements! ICalcium can block your arteries - as it did to mine! Had to have a bi-iliac by-pass!!

[@plants4Ever17]

Thank you, you two never fail to entertain as you deliver even the most dire truths.....AFF, osteonecrosis of the jaw......... Keep it coming, you're the best!

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thanks so much!

[@momv2pa]

You guys are just too funny, but full of great information. I am a 69 year-old woman and just had my 2nd Dexa Scan, which showed my bones are in great condition. I consumed regular amounts of dairy as I grew up and started taking calcium supplements in my 20’s (on the advice of my doctor). I occasionally smoked, exercise was kind of sporadic (still is though I aim to change that). I’m sorry but I won’t entirely give up alcohol-like my occasional wine). When I was beginning the menopausal journey, my doctor did not believe in hormone therapy, so I never had that. I also gave up my dreams of being an astronaut!😏 love your videos.

[@calburnIII]

I had a recent visit to my nephrologist, who is monitoring me due to my lowered kidney function-I’m about to turn 81, and apparently I’ve had gradually decreasing kidney function for a long time. Over the course of many years, I’ve taken a D3 supplement. My primary doc reduced my intake of D3 a few years back, but now my nephrologist asked me to discontinue it altogether. He said that it has an adverse effect upon my kidneys, and that my blood tests show that I don’t have a current need for a D3 supplement. He said at my next blood tests in 6 months, we’ll see if I need to resume a D3 supplement. He explained that D3 stays in the body longer than most supplements, using an explanation that frankly went over my head, but then in simple terms, that many supplements get pee’d out in a short time, but not so with D3. Fine with me-one less pill to swallow daily!

[@Usedtobefast1]

Great channel! Your videos helped me prep for my hip replacement and prepare for my recovery. I had a posterior approach THA at the end of August, and things went and are going better than expected, with one caveat! When I saw my surgeon the day after surgery he said that it was a good thing that I had surgery now ,as he had to do extra work due to me having osteonecrosis! Well this was a shock to me as I had thought that I had osteoarthritis, likely from 50 years of hockey and 40years as a industrial mechanic. Now I’m worried are my bones failing will I have to have more joint replacements?

[@fionagordon-turner5961]

I love the banter between the doctors - all the advice was familiar and made sense.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thanks so much!

[@barbarafleming3827]

These doctors are wonderful! I learn so much and just have alot of fun listening/watching these videos. Very complete, very accurate, very useful and highly entertaining, Thanks! Share this link with your friends! Barbara Fleming, M.D.,Ph.D.