085 - The Abduction of Anthonette Cayedito - UPDATED

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@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. Күн бұрын
I wish you wouldn't have called Anthonette a "young woman". She was a CHILD.
@branchtana315
@branchtana315 13 сағат бұрын
He never called her that. Listen more carefully.
@cassie1264
@cassie1264 Күн бұрын
It was obvious that Anthonette was parentified and at a very high risk due to her parent's behavior. I'm sure you were trying to be kind in the original podcast, but it almost feels like you were naively trying to explain away the obvious neglect and abuse that was going on in the home. Anthonette's disappearance didn't lead to her family's descent into dysfunction and substance abuse. The dysfunction and substance abuse led to Anthonette's disappearance and her sister's later struggles.
@e.v.8949
@e.v.8949 Күн бұрын
That was exactly my problem with many coverages of this case. So much avoidance of "blaming the victim" that people forgot who the real victim was. Shameful.
@FatheringAutismDaighter
@FatheringAutismDaighter Күн бұрын
I agree I really think that the mother had something to do with her going missing
@paolacanali4567
@paolacanali4567 Күн бұрын
​@@FatheringAutismDaighter come nel caso di Summer , quella bambina di appena 5 anni ( non ricordo il cognome) sono già 2 anni dalla sua scomparsa e non sappiamo niente ... Credo che la madre Candice e il marito c'entrano qualcosa , c'è il dubbio che l'abbiano venduta ... 😢😢😢
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. Күн бұрын
And calling her a "young woman" is ignorant. She was a CHILD.
@theboldandthebeautiful3729
@theboldandthebeautiful3729 Күн бұрын
Thats my take as well.
@devinisdead4061
@devinisdead4061 Күн бұрын
Why can’t children just get to be children 😢
@SharonBrown-yn6fz
@SharonBrown-yn6fz 23 сағат бұрын
No man would give my girls any gifts. They don’t need anything from men at all. And no way would my girls answer the door. They never woke up and hear the door at night. This woman is a monster. She helped do this
@MidnightVentures
@MidnightVentures Күн бұрын
Oh wow. So glad to see all these updates. This is going to be a good listen. Merry Christmas.
@jeffjones3040
@jeffjones3040 14 сағат бұрын
They had her mom COLD, all,those years ago... unreal.
@ama3182
@ama3182 Күн бұрын
Im convinced the mother was in on the plan, she clearly has party buddies complained about her daughter to them. They offered a solution and she agreed to it. She didnt have a guilty conscious until she had asked if she would end up in jail if she said she was a part of it 8 yrs later. The wierdest thing is keeping the necklace the friend that gifted to her daughter. If she kept it on an alter its her reminding herself of what she had done that night and the only piece of her daughter before she allowed them to take care of her. Cant believe she would call herself a mother get rid of 1 out of the 3 but still keep your other 2 kids. She may not think she's to blame for everything that happened to her daughter but the intentions of what lead to the disappearance in the first place, none if this would of happened. There are clearly secrets in the family and they are to be suspected for sure.
@NoeFlores-hw1np
@NoeFlores-hw1np Күн бұрын
This story is very upsetting to me because of that terrible woman supposed to be the mother
@billyboy8534
@billyboy8534 Күн бұрын
Her mother knew exactly what happened.
@sfvoyeur1
@sfvoyeur1 Күн бұрын
Absolutely. The mother either profited from it or was paying off a debt. It’s difficult to believe that a very average detective couldn’t get a confession out of her. Enough to go to trial with. There’s a law enforcement failure here at the root of this “unsolved” case
@kingpriapatius5832
@kingpriapatius5832 Күн бұрын
She sold her daughter for drugs.
@cassie1264
@cassie1264 Күн бұрын
​@@sfvoyeur1It's not what they know, it's what they can prove. It seems like most "unsolved" cases are simply unresolved because there isn't enough hard evidence to secure a conviction. It's possible that they took this case to the DA and they declined to prosecute it.
@FreshNettles
@FreshNettles Күн бұрын
I agree..
@Loralanthalas
@Loralanthalas Күн бұрын
Illogicsl. The younger ones would have been worth more. She was also the only helpful one.
@doglover12345andfr
@doglover12345andfr Күн бұрын
It’s nice to see one of my “pet cases “ getting an update. This one has haunted me since I learned about her on Unsolved Mysteries as a kid.
@4Mr.Crowley2
@4Mr.Crowley2 Күн бұрын
Given all of this it seems very likely that poor Anthonette was sold - I am wondering if Penny was working as a CI, and as happens with many CI cases, LE does not want to bring them up on charges etc. They sadly value the potential contributions of Penny as a CI vs concern for her missing daughter.
@hazels7447
@hazels7447 Күн бұрын
I really do think it was Anthonette who called. Back then many children were taught the local police phone number in case of emergencies, and as all accounts of her describe her as being very responsible and often watching her siblings I have no doubt she knew that number.
@rileybear836
@rileybear836 Күн бұрын
Case update at : 1:15:05
@lorrietayaba5761
@lorrietayaba5761 Күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽
@fraser_mr2009
@fraser_mr2009 Күн бұрын
I hope she is still alive and living a happy life.
@JoJoDelBosque
@JoJoDelBosque 23 сағат бұрын
I’m praying for Anthonette tonight 😢 wherever you are now and whatever happened to you, you are loved, sweet girl.
@kingpriapatius5832
@kingpriapatius5832 Күн бұрын
Her mother sold her for drugs.
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Күн бұрын
💯🎯
@ilovefood3323
@ilovefood3323 21 сағат бұрын
That is beyond horrible but why you say that How do you know ?
@kingpriapatius5832
@kingpriapatius5832 14 сағат бұрын
@@ilovefood3323 Hello. You can check the documentary of "Crystal Gutierrez TV".
@chantelwhite122
@chantelwhite122 Күн бұрын
Thank you Steven for the update. Her mom knows the truth. Merry Christmas.
@Loralanthalas
@Loralanthalas Күн бұрын
My mom used to play with the FBI in Albuquerque and they'd practice passing it back in the early to mid 80s. We moved by 1990, so even before then they were practicing. They'd practice with reading articles posted on the walls (this used to be quite prevalent), memorizing and reciting things to themselves, and literally clenching their butt holes (yes, all three completely rendered all the tests useless).
@Jessenk98
@Jessenk98 Күн бұрын
This is my “pet” case - I have been obsessed with for years! I hope there is a resolution soon 💗
@skelter1153
@skelter1153 19 сағат бұрын
As a Truck Driver, I've been through Gallup New Mexico many times, and every time I do, I think of this case and that poor child. I truly HOPE that Anthonette was never harmed, and that she grew up to have a happy life. I know the reality of the situation is probably not a happy one; still, I choose to hope. May God protect and bless ALL the children of the world.
@horatiorainey3115
@horatiorainey3115 Күн бұрын
Penny admitted to the FBI that she had knowledge of a plan involving "Emo" and others to abduct Anthonette. This points to a level of complicity or foreknowledge. She was involved in her daughter's abduction. She failed as a mother by allowing her daughter to be taken. Who allows they child to be taken by someone eles that's neglect. Her mother is an evil woman, too bad she died before she could be charged. Poor Baby Girl. Anthonette you didn't deserve this. Rest in heaven beautiful Angel.
@elizabethter-sahakyan6692
@elizabethter-sahakyan6692 Күн бұрын
The only thing I disagree is that she is for sure not alive. She might be kept somewhere...
@mariemartins8606
@mariemartins8606 Күн бұрын
Emo behind a closed does could be mistaken for Joe or uncle Joe
@caninecastleddc
@caninecastleddc Күн бұрын
I don’t think the mom was involved. She needed anthonette around to fill the mother role that she wasn’t filling. But I also think her shady dealings were involved somehow. Someone shady met her daughters through her and targeted them.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 17 сағат бұрын
I agree. Anthonette was too useful for her mom.
@roxyroxelle
@roxyroxelle 15 сағат бұрын
her mom was an idiot and most likely a druggie either way. Poor girl deserved a better familly.
@MelissaModsMetal
@MelissaModsMetal Күн бұрын
Please stop referring to children as "young women" . She's a child.14 is a child. 17 is a child. 17 days and 364 days is a child. 18 would be a young woman..
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 17 сағат бұрын
I also commented this! It's extremely frustrating, and more common for people to do to children of color.
@jeffoff7795
@jeffoff7795 15 сағат бұрын
Is it possible that Anthonette dialed the non-emergency number because it was on speed dial? In the 80s phones often had three buttons dedicated to emergency services: fire, medical, and police. Maybe she just pushed the button with the blue badge and for some reason it was the local police department instead of 911. Did the user program those numbers? Maybe they put the non emergency number because 911 was so easy to remember. I'm sorry if this was addressed. I might have missed it. I was a teenager in the 80s so I do remember that feature on push button phones.
@RedFalc911
@RedFalc911 Күн бұрын
Larry’s sister, Anthonette’s step-aunt, is listed as being found in Juarez Mexico a month after missing. The details of how I cannot find however.
@gurucarcar
@gurucarcar Күн бұрын
Peggy sold her child.
@katgrigoriev3307
@katgrigoriev3307 23 сағат бұрын
Today’s her 48th birthday💔
@anta-zj3bw
@anta-zj3bw Күн бұрын
i always believed she was sold by her mother..
@marcusmoore5191
@marcusmoore5191 Күн бұрын
911 didn’t exist in all parts of the country in the late 80’s and in some places where it did they didn’t have actual emergency operators like they do today. She could have called 911 and it might have gone to the non emergency number back then
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 17 сағат бұрын
Good point!
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 Күн бұрын
🎄🎁⛄☃️Merry Christmas and happy holidays everyone ❤
@marysueellis2614
@marysueellis2614 Күн бұрын
The mother was clearly involved. Merry Christmas to all!
@Loralanthalas
@Loralanthalas Күн бұрын
Literally zero evidence the mom was involved and why would she off the helpful one? Pedos typically like the younger sisters not the older ones. But ... ok. I guess. Her sisters were worth way more, if she was sold. When we were kids it was normal to answer doors and phone calls. In the early 00s was the first time kids were told not to answer doors. And not to get into cars for folks picking up at school. It was in the 00s before there was some "ID" list of approved adults 😂 to this day any stranger can pull up if he's heard a girls name or a convo behind a family in WalMart, etc.
@GalvMermaid50
@GalvMermaid50 7 сағат бұрын
I blame her mother. 😢😢😢 I was treated like this child too. Way too much responsibility for kids i didn't birth. Doing chores instead of playing...mature for her age is another way of saing she was the responsible one. SMDH. Just because women can have kids dont mean they should. Rest easy, Antonette. ❤
@nikidejeu2888
@nikidejeu2888 7 сағат бұрын
I have an idea of why she would call another number other than 911, what if police detectives had left a card at their door maybe mentioning that they are looking for a missing child and she kept it secretly?
@sadielevens1144
@sadielevens1144 Күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤😮. Thanks
@Goblue373
@Goblue373 7 сағат бұрын
Penny’s daughter has come forward and has stated she thinks her mom was involved somehow
@BRIDGETTattoo
@BRIDGETTattoo Күн бұрын
Happy Holidays 🎄
@dlo3408
@dlo3408 10 сағат бұрын
To everyone shitting on the mom. It was the 80’s small town and Anthonette was born generation X and her parents where baby boomers . Generation X where left alone a lot we where beyond latch key kids. We cooked real meals for ourselves we babysat and left alone by the time we were 9 and we rode our bikes miles away at a time by ourselves. Baby boomers had a ton of kids they did not have the time to watch all of us. It was also safer back then. We were raised in the last generation of this kind of parenting .
@stonefroot
@stonefroot 10 сағат бұрын
And because of that, gen x was being completely terrorized by predators. So many kids went missing or came up dead , because people didn't have the sense to watch their children.
@exploitedinnocence2367
@exploitedinnocence2367 7 сағат бұрын
Facts
@DizzyME13
@DizzyME13 7 сағат бұрын
Yup. I was going home after school and staying by myself until my parents got home from work starting in the second grade. When they got home I was told to go outside and play-- and that meant running around an inner city apartment complex with no adult supervision until dark. I can't imagine doing that with my daughter, I'd be worried sick, but I do have a deeper understanding of just how many sickos are out there, where as my parents were more naive to how dangerous it really was. They did have me go to an after school daycare type of place in the first grade, until an older boy smashed my face into a metal piece of playground equipment and broke off half my front tooth. (I guess after that they thought I was safer alone haha.). When we moved to a duplex a year later I walked to and from school alone as well. So many opportunities for things to happen but happily nothing did.
@Amina-qp1ou
@Amina-qp1ou 4 сағат бұрын
i believe the mother was a drug dealer herself her house was the party place where people can go indulge hence why Anthonette acts like a grown women cause the mom wasn't doing her role she was more busy keeping up with her clients donald perry and emo where part of some sort of cp ring donald was connected to drugs as well and cp rings probably told emo that he knew a women that had kids that were perfect for him penny probably mentioned before to donald that she was having financial issues and well from there a plan came up that night emo came with gifts to entice anthonette and get her trust since they all got creeped out by him then the abduction plan at night happened mom knew all this time she wasn't ok with it to an extend but it was something that was already agreed to do the reason unknown but i won't rule out mom had financial issues and needed money to pay of a debt perhaps a drug debt and that was the only way to make this go away maybe the debt was with donald and emo who knows but Anthonette was given to a predator that night her staying up late with the mom and the rest of the girls put to bed it was penny waiting for emo to come and take her she sends her own daughter to open the door because she already knew the predator was coming to pick her daughter up to pay off that debt.
@lorrietayaba5761
@lorrietayaba5761 Күн бұрын
The house they keep showing is the home of Anthonette?
@CynthiaGibson-v8u
@CynthiaGibson-v8u Күн бұрын
How can you pick out one person of all the people in LV
@ozzieone67
@ozzieone67 Күн бұрын
Again you did this update before this is the second time I’ve noticed you are just merging videos and uploading it again
@izaxet9458
@izaxet9458 Күн бұрын
Marry Christmas
@judymorgan289
@judymorgan289 Күн бұрын
Strange that a person would knock on the door . If drug related they would not keep her they would kill her as a message to to the person they were dealing with . Did father \ step father owe money or did he come up short on the drugs .?
@jordanmartin248
@jordanmartin248 Күн бұрын
Been waiting for this update. And on your warning you say 'this video may be upsetting to some' it should be upsetting to everyone. If not I would be very concerned. Not being a smarta$$, just saying.
@Peter-ik1nk
@Peter-ik1nk Күн бұрын
Love these stories, but such terrible things that happened to these people, so sad😢 and tragic, especially young children 😢, that iimunious theme really sets the tone
@Miapetdragon69
@Miapetdragon69 17 сағат бұрын
Why don't they try hypnosis ?
@GalvMermaid50
@GalvMermaid50 7 сағат бұрын
I wondered that too.
@Loralanthalas
@Loralanthalas Күн бұрын
A lot of shoddy work in this case. Including you. 911 didn't exist back then kiddo. I grew up in Grants New Mexico and my grandma would drill me to memorize numbers. A lot of forgetting yellow pages existed back then. Including the police who couldnt be bothered to find anyone else in a cafe, and all the ones who were too lazy to call Ma Bell and pull the phone connections. Telecom has ALWAYS kept records. They had every abilty to trace, track, and find all of these ties. Anyone whos every received a paper phone bill knows: theyve ALWAYS been itemized. Thats nor just the telephone company *magically* keeping your bills but unable to determine phone traffic on their copper (now days fiber)other then giving each individual a bill. 😂
@tfutrell000
@tfutrell000 Күн бұрын
I would always review my parents telephone bill as a child. The only numbers that appeared itemized on their bill were long distance numbers; local numbers did not appear on the telephone bill
@smm855
@smm855 Күн бұрын
911 came to Albuquerque in 1978 and Anthonette was abducted in 1986, so it did exist. That being said, whether or not Anthonette it existed is up for debate. She was 9 and 911 being mentioned to her is a coin toss. Her mother seemed very absent, so I doubt she would have drilled any numbers (911 or otherwise) into her children. I believe the call was real and Anthonette waited for her moment. I think she got access to a phone book at some point during captivity and looked up the police's number (probably finding the Gallup police # written in the front cover as many people used to write important numbers in the front of the book). When she had the opportunity she called the number she memorized and got the police. Only she didn't have enough time to tell them anything (or she might not have known where she was, as is the case for many children kept captive). The idea that this call is a hoax seems ridiculous to me. The idea that an adult (I think it sounds like a man, not sure why Stephen doesn't agree?), got a small child, coached them on a script (and how to act), taught them how to say Anthonette's name (both first and last as Anette is an uncommon name too), had them call the cops and then basically performed an audio play for a dispatcher sounds like a major reach. What is the motive of the adult doing this? Why would the kid go along with it? How is the kid a good enough actor to not giggle at the "prank" or break character and added a convincing scream at the end? If the adult wasn't in on the hoax, why didn't they get on the phone and talk to dispatch and why wasn't the kid allowed to use the phone? Not calling 911 in this instance cuts both ways, if it WAS a hoax, why didn't the call 911 to make it look convincing? Itemized phone number thing you mentioned (I used to get those bills too) is an interesting question and I know a cop that working during the 80's that frequents one of my bars. I'm going to ask him about that cause I've often wondered what the issue was. If he can give me a decent answer, I'll edit :)
@tfutrell000
@tfutrell000 Күн бұрын
@@smm855 I agree - the call is legit.
@x.j.x2
@x.j.x2 Күн бұрын
Then you make a better video instead of just criticizing
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Күн бұрын
I recall 911 being implimented in the mid 70s. So unless NM is really behind. You are incorrect.
@paolacanali4567
@paolacanali4567 Күн бұрын
Perché avete cancellato la mia risposta ? Me ne vado !
@alphadragonwolfwarrior6373
@alphadragonwolfwarrior6373 Күн бұрын
Adios.
@kingpriapatius5832
@kingpriapatius5832 Күн бұрын
Is this an AI voice?
@lewis-h6n
@lewis-h6n Күн бұрын
No
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Күн бұрын
No its not.
@AmandaLove-uo2du
@AmandaLove-uo2du 17 сағат бұрын
He does sound robotic doesn't he? 😂
@howdareyouexist
@howdareyouexist 32 минут бұрын
yes
@PoetofHateSpeech
@PoetofHateSpeech 22 сағат бұрын
Pressing X to doubt she would have done anything in her life. While it's disgusting what happened to her, cross breeds don't usually end up well
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