$1,000 372XP Husqvarna vs $300 G372XP Holzfforma Clone. Big Spruce Removal in Oregon!

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[@leonidas7281]

I was a Stihl guy for a long time. Then the guy who owns the local Husqvarna shop backed into my winter beater Chevy truck. I got him to give me a 372xp for the damage. Love that saw. I rarely use any of my other saws now.

[@krustysurfer]

Husqy makes a good saw

[@jetobey5656]

Jacob is my professor. I have studied his videos so closely and frequently that I have begun climbing and felling. Studying for my arborist certification. I am 76, but have always been a risk taker.

[@D45VR]

What??? 76? I'm 74 and no way would I climb like that. But, congrats!

[@theknifeconnection9571]

Absolutely amazing. Very happy for you. Congrats

[@ReaganElite]

I am 59, and now you're my inspiration..

[@lorenzodelatorre3983]

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[@gulliver3644]

I’m 76, was an Army Paratrooper. If they made a chute that would open at 10 ft I’d join you.

[@richardhenderson5342]

I built a Chinese 372 from a parts kit. Upgraded the cylinder and piston to 52mm instead of the 50mm (extra $15) to achieve about 78 cc. Have cut TONS of red oak lumber with it and about 20 cord of firewood over a 5 year period. I did eventually have a failure. Scored piston. Cracked intake boot caused it to start running lean. Rebuilt top end and replaced the boot. Replaced carb though it was probably okay. Pulls a 42” bar through sugar maple on a saw mill quite well. I don’t use it to make a living but I’ve been surprised that it’s held up as long as it has. Best $300 I have ever spent. Just couldn’t justify the cost of a real Husky though I love them. Thanks for the video. I would also lean it out a bit. Would keep the clutch engaged tighter and wouldn’t dog down like it was. IMHO.

[@DuriensBane]

Did the same but kept a 365 bottom end for the crank. Cant seem to get the carb to run correctly but its a shelf queen for now. Hopefully one day ill get it running.

[@aaronmonroe2886]

Its worth noting that the Husqvarna 372XP you have is an X-Torq, check out the black tag. It should say 372 X-Torq, the decompression button on top of the head is a giveaway. Husqvarna made a 372XP and 372XP X-Torq, while sharing a bunch of parts, are two completely different cases, cylinders, and pistons with different porting. They share the bore and stroke. The Holzfforma 372 is based off a non X-torq, the decomp button is on the side of the cylinder. The Holz seems very rich also. Great video!

[@InWithBothFeet]

A year later.. yea, the chinese saw is running rich. He should have tuned both of them before doing the comparison.

[@rowdybroomstick6394]

09/01/2024 just looked online at the holzforma 372XP and it's only 329 to my front door. Going to order this coming Friday. Winter is coming and I want back up wood heat again

[@taylorc2542]

@@InWithBothFeet Should have used identical, new chain also.

[@codyabbott4791]

Go watch ironhores' video, these saws scream if you advance the timing, they come pretty retarded from the factory, possibly to meet EPA

[@OhEtSpidermanTV]

@@InWithBothFeetWhy doesn’t The Holzzfroma Chainsaw doesn’t Have a Wrap Handle

[@johnnyshell2839]

"I don't always swing 2 saws while climbing trees. But when I do I swing dos huskys. Keep climbing my friends" lol. Twin 28s. That's boss level

[@keeganaldrich404]

😂😂

[@lukelegg9915]

clever lol

[@Cwgriseta15]

This has to be one of the best comments I've ever read! 😂

[@charlesmosely6297]

I've got lots of respect for you guys that do what you do. I get 10 feet up a latter, I'm quaking in my shoes. But, where would America be if not for your kind. Thanks a lot for your bravery.

[@mattfleming86]

Best comment ever.

[@JL20231]

The OEM 372xp model you have is an xtorq edition, which is a strato saw like the newer 562xp and 572xp. The older 372xp OE or original edition is a traditional quad transfer port closed piston saw, which is what Holzfforma copied. Two totally different engine designs to compare, although the plastics look the same.

[@donutt2383]

That being said which is better

[@DavidBergman1776]

@@donutt2383 Most say the OE is better. I agree. Simply longer lasting.

[@dontarguewafool955]

I've had my 372 x torque for 5 years now. Never let me down, and I worked it hard. It came with a 28 " bar , full skip square grind. A perfect match. Even use a 36" bar, full skip square grind on it and it doesn't slow her down. I've used Opti2 oil in both my huskys also. That oil is worth every penny. I do feel the x tourqe is much better than her older sister.

[@DaveyBlue32]

The Farmertec cylinder is a chrome bore cylinder just like every saw built was… they absolutely need 32:1 and they will greatly appreciate a semisynthetic oil like that RedMax which is your Husqvarna semisynthetic oil… or a dirtbike semisynthetic…. You’ll get 20 years out of that cylinder with the Caber rings and good oil at 32:1… the Xtorq 372 is a strato charged or modern engine,,, problem there is you’re dumping your fresh air charge in to the front side of the piston and it’s mixing in Combustion chamber which is just a super lean condition in your cylinder and that’s where they burn up on 50:1 in a couple years… we cut a little pocket into the cylinder intake face and make sure all that air is mixing with our fuel mixture charge in the intake and not getting any where near the piston without the oil molecules in it!!! All the strato designs benefit from your doing that on their intake face!!! MS261cm will absolutely be awesome with that little assistance!!!! 40:1 is the minimum amount of oil and a working saw needs more! We run 36:1… 7 Oz into 2.5 gallons of 90 octane and it’ll burn completely off and leave no carbon deposits on your exhaust port window… the 372 Xtorq is not the best saw in the world because they have been running that bigger and heavy piston on the same crank and counter weight so it’s just not going to work as long because it’s eventually going to be beating on your PTO side bearings with a longer bar..,, plastic race’s on that bearing don’t help matters much… buddy of mine says that he would highly recommend that all bearings be a plastic race so when they go you’ll have a better chance of them getting spit through the engine then binding and wiping a topend so I’m still mixed about that as I have always been fond of the metal race and I use SKF for my saw’s for my bearing supply in town?

[@NathanVdV]

well the original husky is the XT version, the FT version is the XP version. that's why the comp release is different. and the FT one was really fat on the high just for break in, next time run a tank or 2 trough it, open up the high jet till it reaches 13k rpm and it will smoke that original XT, at least mine does.

[@wrstew1272]

Really need to tweak the high jet on the Clone Saw. To see you wrecking that Sitka Spruce almost brings me to tears! The bottom wood is perfect for guitar tops, and logs are what is used for airborne spars. Straight up great wood!

[@erichd9460]

Like a lot of people are saying the chinese saw's high jet was really rich, which prevented it from reaching full rpm, and thus cut slower. Retune it to 12.5k-13k rpm using a digital induction tachometer and I'd imagine they would be a lot more comparable.

[@twistedtimber3129]

Mine was very rich on the high jet when I got it. But I’m at 5000 ft elevation too

[@krustysurfer]

Keeps from blowing up the saw I reckon

[@kdcustoms1272]

Rich is good for break in, my g660 was 2 ¹/2 turns out, I hear it should be at about 1 ¹/4.. so yea very rich.

[@SamRicks21]

I learned from a wise old climber that taught me to put my climbing line below my flip-line so if you cut one they’re not together so you don’t fall out of the tree, stay safe out there brother

[@PatrickMedley-g6n]

Consider adjusting the carburetor and the saw will run just fine, almost guaranteed. I've got one, use it pretty high production cutting and does as good as my old husky 372xp. They are molded after the older ones. Hopefully you are healing well since the accident that happened to Jed, stay safe

[@1d1hamby]

The Holzforma saw was very fat in the carburetor. It would be nice to see once you get the carbs adjusted and a few more tanks through both the saws.

[@DaveyBlue32]

Yeah man…you really can’t get a very good idea of what’s up when you’re right out the box like that… you need a dozen tanks to get broken in and tuned properly and really starting to jam out! If you are really watching and listening to engine rpm’s…you can actually see them both beginning to gain rpm’s and power as they chuck down these two sticks… think he was running 32:1 no synthetic two stroke oil in the fuel mixture?!? I will say this about the Farmertec saw’s… if you have some good saw Machacic knowledge and ability… have been building saw’s for a little while… you can build yourself a decent tool that you can actually use to make money for 1/2 of the new oem prices! I’ve been running mine 4 years commercial and some other saw’s with Farmertec engine repower’s for over 12 years without a hiccup!!! When you’re self employed sometimes shit happens and your 372 or 395 is down or stolen and you have work that you need to get done..,a g660 or a g395 is going to get your jobs done and keep food on your family’s table!!! Really look at what John did to the g200T.,, that saw runs good enough to keep the business going!!! I just don’t agree with what everyone else does in their building.,, that saw could actually be a little less powerful…it’s more power than is necessary.,, and it would get a whole lot better fuel mileage.., sure it’s got lots more power but it’s burning up and not fully utilizing like twice the amount of fuel.., so that’s more sending it up and down to refill the tanks and getting less work done in that waisted time of messing around with adding more fuel all day.,, porting is about achieving a balance within the engine that allows it to function more efficiently and fluidly…. Just my thinking… and there’s definitely several different ways to port a saw and there’s different reasons to do that port and polish job! Stay safe in the trees boy’s!!!

[@DaveyBlue32]

@Schwalbe_262 I’ve had the 372’s and 660’s for 5 years now… I have a real 371,372’s 390,395… my point was these are awesome very inexpensive backup saw’s… I’ve built 5 660’s with meteor topend kits on them and they all have been doing residential tree removal work for 5 years without a hiccup they run better than factory because they are all lightly ported with timing number correction and polished exhaust ports… when the $400 dollar saw’s stronger than your $1200 dollar saw’s… you might want to pay attention… they can be a great deal… the 5800 Jonny cutter’s are 58cc ground saw’s… they are awesome for a rookie… who’s going to beat on a saw… he’s killing a $150 dollar saw… not the $800 dollar ms261cm or 362cm…

[@DaveyBlue32]

@Schwalbe_262 and those 288’s can definitely be built into a decent long bar saw… I just really like the 300 series models… 371 single ring 50mm bore is the perfect 28” bar saw… Because the husky has that turbo air filtration which slingshots out the fines and helps keep your air filter cleaner for a little longer… that’s why I run the Husqvarna saw’s… less cleaning of my air filter system… if It’s a single tree takedown then the MS460 will really be screaming… take me… because it’s got that power… my 372’s are the 52mm popup piston version so they can run with the 460’s! A lot of west coast faller’s grabbed the Stihl saw’s because of their 13,500 to 14k top rpm’s… faster chain speed so a little faster in the cut but a husky is smoother… hand file so I’ll run skipper tooth even though it’s not as fast as full comp…. Husky 371 is the perfect feeling sea!!!

[@justinhcase830]

I agree 100% it's running really REALLY rich. That's some what a fell safe tho lean running saws don't run long rich saws just fall plugs my g372xp was the same way it was backed out a little over 1 3/4 all most 2 turns on the hi side it's now at roughly 1 1/4 is the low side was good at first but as it got broken in I hat to run it in a little. Mine was a bet worse thin that one sounds but if you tune it in you will have a hole nother animal mine will out cut my buddy's real 572xp now thanks to you t teaching me how to square file LOL he's still hurt over his new 1200$ saw Bing out cut by a old stile 372xp nock off but im going to have some more fun out of it before I tell him it's bc of how I sharpened my chain.

[@cecilsink9901]

Mine was real rich when I got it, leaned it out and it eats!

[@shaner67]

Gotta say you are growing on me. Have watched your journey as an arborist and see that the skills you have learned from the previous crew has helped you develop as a pretty good tree guy. Keep working hard and learning from each job.. Much love to you brother.. Cheers

[@kenhubbard7355]

Hard to tell in the short term , I started running Huskys when they 1st came out with the 1100 before that Homelites and 090 no anti vib and a 36 inch bar the old hardstips, 395 was the last saw I packed we use to hop them up , dual exhaust plug the governors, put a 10 sprocket plane the calender and take the gasket completely out sprocket noise bar 3/8 skip tooth chain WE GOT SOME RPM OUT OF THE 395s I'm 80 now so all I got left is my close call memories STAY SAFE BROTHERS OF DANGER RUN IN FOR YOUR MONEY AND OUT FOR YOUR LIFE I've fell timber from KETCHIKAN TO CHICO CALIFORNIA ALL THE B C COAST TASMANIA AUSTRALIA SOME EXOTIC WOOD IN COSTA RICA AND NOW I'M RETIRED IN VIETNAM

[@briansullivan1621]

Old School Tree Service A climber , 2 good guys on the ground, a good chipper & a mason dump w a homemade chip box !!!!! I cant believe how the business had changed and the amount of expensive heavy machinery companies have now 😊

[@aus71383]

"Be sure to cut off all your holding wood" "Ok!" "Tree shape" lol what a great video, you're such a good guy Jacob, stay safe and God bless you.

[@jimhurricane5831]

I have the 372 Holtzfforma too! It’s been a good saw for me. Was running super fat on the high jet out of the box and didn’t cut to well, but after a couple tanks of gas in, tuned in the high jet, and it rips! Also bought their 660 as well as their G111 and man they run good 👍 Great video and thank you for putting these together for us to enjoy!

[@jimhurricane5831]

That’s the one I got👍 It’s been cutting great and absolutely no complaints. Some minor things such as lose nuts or fasteners here and there, but amazing saw for the price. Wish I bought more when I bought them. Only thing is they do run fat on the high jet, but after a few tanks of run time tune that high jet in and they rip👍 That’s my experience with these saws at least!

[@DavidBaumgarner]

Im no expert but having tuned a few carbs on different saws, and those both being almost the same saw..... the holzfforma clearly needed a little screw twisting. there were no rpms at all... she was choking. I would expect em to run the same, just not for the same hours before needing parts. Cylinder and piston are not as high quality, and the other thing is probably just double check every nut and bolt on the Holzfforma to be sure its torqued.

[@DavidBaumgarner]

Oh I also read a comment from a guy on this vid that builds them from kits and he said they need a bit taken off the cylinder base to bump compression... that would definitely make a difference in lower performance ( probably in an attempt to keep it more reliable... may be a good trade but if not. get it machined down a bit. YOUR CALL) I dont mind something that needs a bit of TLC / tuning...

[@bixby9797]

@@DavidBaumgarner Not a pro by any means but I noticed this as soon as the cutting started.

[@FormulaXFD]

How hard are the knockoffs to tune? I'm looking at the 372xp knock off for an alaskan chainsaw mill edging mill (I run a genuine 392xp for the primary sawing) and figure a knockoff would be a good fit for the job.

[@fmiwlf]

First thought, Dude your an animal, LOL. My favorite part was two saws running at the same time and cutting two limbs while way up high in a huge tree. Truly amazing to watch! Thanks for the review. I read the more expensive Pro Holz has a Walbro carb, Nikasil cylinder and Meteor piston ring. They say just changing the carb makes a big difference. However, instead of a third the cost its half the cost.

[@briananonymous724]

Terrific video Jake. I believe comparisons like this are of great interest to a many amateurs like me, and are extremely valuable for some of us. So thanks again.

[@Altair885]

I've built a few of these Chinese 372xp clones now, and one thing they all need before you even start is the cylinder machining to bring squish down to an acceptable figure. From the factory the cylinders are usually a mile out and compression is considerably lower than is desirable. But after being machined and some very mild porting these saws really do come alive.

[@AndreasBrOlesen]

To bring down the squish, do you machine the bottom of the cylinder (near the crankcase)? Since there is no cylinder head. Just curious :-)

[@Altair885]

@@AndreasBrOlesen Normally yes, but if you have to take a lot of material away you also need to check opening and closing times for the ports, as lowering the entire cylinder affects timing.

[@AndreasBrOlesen]

@@Altair885 That makes sense. Seems like a lot of work. Definitely not a DIY job. :-) I guess it is worth the effort, the price difference taken in consideration.

[@Altair885]

@@AndreasBrOlesen You would need access to a lathe to make this kind of modification. It's actually a very simple operation once you've made a mandrel to hold the cylinder straight, after that it only takes moments to do each cylinder once you've done your measurements and worked out the amount to take off.

[@BryanClark-gk6ie]

@@Altair885 Why not base gasket delete?

[@brianquigley7336]

The early 372 's had the decomp valve on the side like the Holzfforma.

[@MedicGeorge]

Seriously better than most things on Netflix. Thanks for your videos which also is a lot of your time.

[@Kirks_Custom_Chainsaws]

So the real husky came from a dealership where they typically assemble the saws, service them, start them, & tune them. The holz saw came out of a box from china. The Chinese saws are certainly not for everyone, but if you know what your doing & can tune a saw & properly service it. You will be just fine. 👍🏻 I have several real huskies (& Stihls) as well as several clone saws just for fun. I’m more apt to modify the clones,(big bore, popup piston, porting, etc) like a practice saw lol. But they work and I’m getting crazy power out of them after the mods. And they’ve been holding up well… so far 🤞🏻. Stay safe out there everyone, & keep the good content coming. Sore legs after climbing with (2) 372xp’s??? Wow, don’t think I’d want to climb with both.

[@jimnaz5267]

the clones are the same as stolen merchandise. if the slopes want to market to the US they should do so under their own brand, such as Chairman Mao TM. YOU ARE BEING VERY SHORT SIGHTED IN BUYING FROM THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE US CORONAVIRUS

[@AkiSan0]

yeah, i think this wasnt the fairest comparison, though i think the copy held up pretty decent. the power was there (most of the time) and if properly serviced and ported it will do its job just fine for probably less than half of the price.

[@Morpheen999]

@@AkiSan0 But how long will it last?

[@Kirks_Custom_Chainsaws]

​@@jimnaz5267 so I noticed that out of 448 comments, most of them were positive, several constructive, but still positive. It is a shame that you are offended by content & comments on a KZbin video. You may try relaxing and enjoying the conversation of several chainsaw guys & gals & people, all here just to comment & share their experiences. 👍 So if you have some time, check out the 2 links below. The first one is about: "Husqvarna China Machinery Manufacturing Co. Ltd. manufactures garden equipment. The Company mainly produces and sells mowers, garden tractors, and more." more, like chainsaws??? www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/0389276D:CH and of course the second one is about Stihl (we all love our Stihls too!) celebrating 10 years of manufacturing in ..... you guessed it; the same country that gave us coronavirus as you put it. www.stihl.com/stihl-factory-in-qingdao-china-celebrates-10th-anniversary.aspx So, my point is if you want us all to boycott brands made in china, you cannot be selective, it has to be all of them which would include Husqvarna & Stihl. Just thought I'd pass that info on because i had no idea until i researched it about a year or so ago. Saw safe everyone!

[@thebleeb1681]

The decomp on the Holzfforma is in the same spot as the older Husky 371XP. I would guess is that they cloned the 371XP rather than the 372XP. I have had a 371XP since 1998. Best all-around saw Husqvarna ever made!

[@Wayne-fu9qz]

Wow, They both have their best place. I have a PROYAMA chainsaw from Amazon,it is also good,and the price is cheaoc.I am impressed! Ihave run brand names for many many years and I cut very large trees of all kinds, I am impressed with this saw! Ir starts super easy and runs great. I ran 7 tanks on some very large hard maple and some red oak and it did just fine non stop but to fill. the stock chain did fine. I did touch it up before I ever started and set the guides my way, it ran like butter on it all. I didnt have any dirt to deal with so the chain stayed sharp. I then put a 8ten chain on and it ran just the same, no issues at all. the only thing i did have a issue with was the rubber gasket under the fuel cap, it swelled, wrong rubber, but contacted proyama and they sent out new caps with O rings on them and have not had any leaks.They are very open to input on this as to improve anything and also assured me if I hve any issues they will be there and make it right! very good response from the seller. I am now running this at 40:1 and it is doing just fine. I run used motor oil for the bar, no issues. I have run used motor oil in my saws for bar oil for over 20 years and it works great. This saw is a good one! I recommend the PROYAMA chainsaw.

[@bryanchipps6572]

I've been a Stihl guy for almost 30 years but those 372s are fantastic saws

[@dougfingerson]

Enjoyed the video. Have a question. Why wouldn't you make lumber from a great log?

[@cecilsink9901]

I've got two of the Holzforma 372xp saws. One I've been running hard on timber and firewood for two years the other is almost new. The only fault I've found is the starter assembly is not very robust. They both keep up with my Stihl MS 460

[@kevinbprice7448]

Ok, gotta admit I was wincing a little when you were running both of those saws simultaneously. I could only picture a kickback and ripping your forearm open. But all went well!👍🏼 I've got 2 - 372xps but have never run them at the same time!😆 one of them is 11 yrs old and only changed the air filter and spark plug...

[@jimbusmaximus4624]

@@fella704 The only time he was in danger was when he was cutting with the TOP of the bar, pulling it towards him. But you're right, if you're cutting with the bottom and it "kicks" there's really nowhere for it to go except jam up against the dogs.

[@j.jacobson]

No chance for kick back bar longer than wood and no other wood in the way

[@StinkyPete69]

Yeah the china saw definitely needs some carb adjustment. Husky is reving out higher but both would seem to be on par with each other with minor work

[@tamaslaki6770]

The husky you bought is 372 xp xtorq the holzfforma is 372 xp non xtorq ( older model) btw you can buy both xtorq and non xtorq at them :D also port that husky and muffler mod it you will be satisfied with it for sure !

[@EasyMoneyCrew]

love these videos when you do the clone saws vs the real deal keep them up!

[@wadebarnes6720]

I'm done that kind of work for 25 or 30 years but I was a big boy 350 lb and climb trees all day. About the last 10 years they gave me a bucket truck took a little while to get used to it but it only went 55 ft which was high enough for a lot of trees

[@crazyfeller5704]

My experience. Holzforma took about 10 tanks to break in, tuned REALLY rich from the factory. Not overly impressed with the torque even after break in, but it gets the job done. You should take it to John and see what he can do for poops and laughter.

[@randyschock7374]

I think the 372xp is one of the best saws of all time.

[@eugenecrabs3954]

Nahh.... Either the Echo 750evl, or the Pro Mac 10-10

[@Sandberg11390]

@@eugenecrabs3954 +1 for the ol pro Mac 10-10. Way ahead of it's time.

[@MrThenry1988]

Indeed.

[@Sandberg11390]

@@fella704 No, nostalgia doesn't pay the bills. But being a Man sure does. Who are YOU to assume you know my body build type or weight, or career?Who gives a shit if it's 3 lbs heavier. Maybe you haven't used a saw too much, especially in a professional setting. But if your actually Working, your saw is in a fucking tree. How much is the weight difference REALLY at that point. You must of been just a groundworker, carrying around the real men's saws for them all day, that's why 3 lbs matters to you.

[@Sandberg11390]

@@fella704 Maybe you do. I didn't say I'd Rather run around with a 1010 walking through slashing and fallen timber.. didn't even say I'd Rather run a 10 10 all day.. I said I agree that it was way ahead of it's time and an all time favorite.

[@lindaarbogast6499]

Jake I love that you are not doing this one solo! Glad you have help with a tea of men who you know and trust to help you! Loved this video a lot.nice work!

[@jbc1042]

It's a great experience to watch these professional loggers performing their trade. ❤

[@danr308]

Dr. Hingewood is a pretty righteous name for a tree service.

[@gruntlifetruckingserio8914]

Husqvarna saws have really good torque an they are very reliable . I believe you get what you pay for . Like I said earlier I have Husqvarna saw that is over 20 years old . An it runs just as good as my brand new one if not better . It’s a lot heavier in weight but dam good saw . I used to be all about still till my dad brought home a Husqvarna an I feel in love with it

[@SotTreeService]

Hey Jacob. I just passed my arborist test and wanted to say thanks for your help. Really appreciate the time you take to make videos. I’m now trying to go out and start my own company and I just want some insight on what to get gear wise. I’m just gonna focus on spiking and felling. But there’s so much to get. August and you are my favorite guys to watch. Could really use the the help. Thanks brother

[@fanosoX]

Congrats man, just passed mine too

[@SotTreeService]

@@fanosoX good work man

[@05victorylly]

love the videos. the knock off was running WAY rich. wasnt making any rpm and was 4 stroking

[@nepaoutdoors8536]

Those pro 372 knock offs are awesome. Higher compression and better flow. They srsly tear through wood. Holzfforma makes a 660 pro now which those are pretty cool

[@robconant333]

The Husky is an xtorq model with decomp on the top. The Chinese 372 is a clone of the non xtorq model.

[@DavidBergman1776]

Was about to comment this. Not the fairest comparison, but for most it'll work as a good comparison.

[@GuiltyofTreeson]

They both said XP on them when I bought them lol 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sawboatsndarmwrestling]

@@GuiltyofTreeson they’re both xp pro saw , but husky has a 372 xp original edition from early 2000 to 2010 I think then they made a 372 xp xt ( x torque) they are an emission model, they’re both 5.4 or 5.7 hp from the back of my head

[@dr7477]

@@GuiltyofTreeson xp doesn't mean xtorq. I have a 372xp and my dad has a 372xp xtorq. Xtorq just means emmisions nonsense.

[@gyulatimko2075]

@@GuiltyofTreeson the x-torq has different in take and cylinder. Out of the box it has a little more power :)

[@peanutbuttersanwhich1488]

I got that holzzforma 372pro. It’s a good saw. Only thing I have done is tune carburetor and everything else is fine. It starts every time and it cuts, no complaints here. Love mines. No joke it’s a great saw overall

[@BrandonBigB956]

Love Husqvarna saws! spent hours last weekend helping my dad cut up firewood running a 272XP on some 36 inch red oak trees. The 72cc saws really get down for the weight. I hear the Holzfforma Stihl knock off is better than the Husqvarna knock off as they have been making them for a lot longer.

[@rickstafford5316]

Good info. I think you should tweak and run another tank of gas after. Good brush out.

[@DaveJohnsonad5nm]

Best way to do the Holtzforma is as a kit. A quality top end and bearings and seals with a oem carb. It will then cut and run as good as a Husky. It will still cost half the price. Worst part of the Holtzforma is the plastic.

[@jasonmichaeljimenez]

I really appreciate you showing your mistakes. Mistakes and things not working out are my life.

[@samphilp9809]

I've got the Holzfforma 372xp. Needed a bigger saw for a larger job but couldn't justify or afford a 'real' one, nor the experience I have now to get a second hand saw. First few cuts it almost ripped itself out of my hands. After about ten tanks of fuel, I did need to make some adjustments to the carb. Ended up being 1/8 turn in on the high jet. It's held up after 3 years though.

[@HerosRisingDevelopment]

No way! I work at the county and we have used DR. Hingewood before. Awesome to see you in my area!

[@brianhawes3115]

At some point I moved from my 372 husky, and started using a stihl, then went back, that husky sat in the garage for over ten years, with gas, and I decided one day to see if it would start, and by god the mother started! Now it’s pretty much my go to saw!

[@chethoffman1124]

The cheesy dogs are for bucking. Allows you to use two more inches of your bar. China saws don't have any environmental limitations on the carbs and don't come tuned. When they are broken in you can tune them to absolutely scream. I have the G372xp and G372 with 8T sprockets and 28 inch bars. They are both faster than stock huskies.

[@kennethstephens8046]

The husky is an xtorq model while the China saw is modeled after the pre xtorq model. My 04 372xp original edition has the decomp in the same spot. Mine even has the low top filter setup and heated handles.

[@tennessee_hillbilly3451]

I just found you’re Chanel about a week ago, and I love watching all you’re videos defiantly learning a lot! Keep up the great content sir!

[@jameskay7370]

Honestly would love to see an upgraded carb and a bark box on the cheap saw, I reckon it would really liven it up

[@cecilsink9901]

I've got one stock and one ported, hi perfect muffler and Swedish carb. It makes a difference

[@TheJanope13]

That's some nice timber, would love to run a few tanks through my saw non stop through it. Definitely think the clone is way too rich, wouldn't stop 4 stroking through the cuts. I think the chinese tune them extremely rich to be on the safe side.

[@SteelCowboy]

I love my G372 “so far” lol it’s done well for a clone , working on upgrades now. But they have different carbs sometimes, there are good ones and bad ones. I put a fully adjustable one on mine, and did some porting, muffler mod next. Had it for a year and have cut 60 cords with it so far, zero issues. Yours sounds pretty dogish compared to mine even before porting .

[@deej7783]

Amazing to watch. Your rigging rope looks like the rope I used to make a Yale cordage I see you love the blaze!!! Good work brother I have few trees hanging over my house I need gone one maple actually fell Christmas eve on my home. So brings me to KZbin try to learn something!

[@markfeasel9431]

I worked for a climber.. ground work... He always had brush below the tree... To absorb the trunk wood as it falls to not dig in to the ground... He would also cut longer chunks.. like six to eight feet instead of firewood.

[@kobselzea176]

I’m pretty sure the older 372’s had the decomp button on the side like the Holz( or the couple I’ve ran did but they far from brand new

[@AndyMohlman]

Wasn’t expecting to learn about rope on rope action! That was no joke.

[@DaveyBlue32]

Husqvarna was always supplying the 372’s to the rest of the world they only stopped in the USA because of the 572 electronic carburetor because of emissions!!! then people spoke up so they continued to produce it in the USA… that’s an Xtorq oem strato saw your real one that clone is based upon the oe 372 design with the lighter weight pistons so it’s gonna be a lot better on your crank bearings because it’s the same crank with a much heavier and larger piston… that’s why the Xtorq design beats on the bearings… if you remove your cylinder and do the 48mm 365 special on those same case’s then you have really knocked down your power a little bit but you have greatly extended the bearings life!!! And I’ll pull a 24” or 28” with skipper just fine…

[@zman8884]

Saw another comment I agree the Chinese one was running a little fat on the high adjustment on the carb. Definitely not getting the full potential but still I don’t think anything compares to the legendary 372xp. Or 371 for that matter

[@theegoliath2697]

Wonderful job on the music and sight seeing video while traveling down to Oregon! I Love that style of editing!

[@ThePope406]

God... I remember the days of using the old brush bandit. And having to use the safety bar to stop/start the feed wheel constantly. It's nice not having to babysit our new one so much.

[@rdstngry]

Never thought about cutting a rope with an axe. I've taped and cut rope before, but with wire cutters, cable cutters or a knife. My electricians cable shears work real well also. Once when cutting 1-1/2" hemp I taped it nice and tight then cut it with a fine tooth blade on a Sawzall.

[@anton_mishchenko]

I have that china 372 for backyard cleaning, with 28'' bar. After 3-or 4 trees I had to put the walbro carb on it instead of "stock" - it was not really usable to adjust it every start, and then after it warm up - tune it back again. After carb and spark (just in case) change it became stable and predictable - I did not adjust it since carb swap. I can not say how close it to the original husky - do not have one. But as homeowner I can say it is sufficient to fell down and chunk up to 26 in diameter oaks. Just for the stats: For the last 3 months I cut about 5 thick oaks, 2 or 3 similar size maples, and 3 or 4 pines in total, plus quite a lot smaller size trees. 6 gallons of gas total burned, I run it on 40 to 1 mix. Main issue I had - starter cord broke 2 times, Plus starting it takes 6-10 pulls.

[@zackeryhills1311]

28inch bar for backyard cleaning???

[@anton_mishchenko]

@@zackeryhills1311 Yep. why not? For the trees of 2+ feet diameter.

[@travisfuesler2285]

Been running saws for a little while if there's one thing I found out recently since I just started using Husqvarna used to only use Stil 462ms is those husqvarnas got a lot more torque we use the 390 XP and the 395 XP those are some cutting machines we deal with white oak mostly.

[@timbrown2637]

You need to adjust the high screw on the holzforms. Also for comparing you need to use the same bar and chain.

[@TheF1shh]

The carbs on the chinese saws are REALLY hit and miss. You put a OEM carb ($100ish) and muffler on the husky knock offs and they can run pretty good.

[@55ATA3]

I enjoy the videos on the saws, and I like you just cutting the trees. Just enjoy your videos..

[@crxer89able]

These videos makes me nervous but I love watching this stuff.

[@jakerubino3233]

Saws Akimbo! Nice 😂 Also, tree shaped trees are definitely my favourite shape! 🤣

[@pauld5530]

Be interesting to take the Holtzie in and have it ported. Would get a pretty good idea of the build and materials quality doing that. One of the big differentiators between motors is the plating on the cylinder walls - might see a difference there.

[@DaveyBlue32]

The new oem saw’s are nikasil lined.., the Farmertec saw’s are a chrome bore like the old saw’s of yesterday… that’s why they say run 32:1 !!!!

[@ronaldbrown5745]

@@DaveyBlue32 the husqvarna 372 had chrome lined cylinder and were spect to run 50:1 oil.

[@bixby9797]

Wondered about these saws. I bought an $89 50cc saw to keep at my hunting camp. No where near my 52cc Jonsered but it cuts wood and I won't cry if it's stolen. There seems to be good and bad reviews of Holzfforma. I think if you tune it then you can have a decent saw. Occasional home use, firewood for the year and a backup saw for professional use.

[@silasbaird]

I used to drive chip trucks from Shelton down to Portland and back and man is it a beautiful drive.

[@efrancis19]

I really enjoy this channel. I'm way too old to start a career in tree work, but I did just buy a chainsaw mill. I obtain logs wherever I can and slab them to sell or use for CNC work. I'd love to have a bigger saw than my 20" for that. Keep up the good work.

[@djbigdawg16]

On the way home you should have been singing "I got a pocket, got a pocket full of sawdust" 😆😆😆

[@aborntexan]

I think the Holzfforma needs leaned out some more. I have the same saw and the Chinese carbs they come with are very finicky. So far I like mine but I've never ran a real 372XP for comparison. I really love the price! LOL

[@iraagans3144]

Jake they are lot cheaper to buy from other websites other than Amazon, you end up paying the middle man when you get stuff from them. American made wedges are about the only exception I found for saving money buying from Amazon.

[@garbizzi6868]

So we could buy three of those holsformanators for the price of 1 husky 372xp, the 372xp was a great saw for in the tree , very light good power. Weight makes a huge difference for me in the tree

[@cecilsink9901]

That's what I did

[@StihlChainsaws]

RITE ON😎👍 That mistake went perfect & couldn't of landed in a better spot. It's really cool that you are testing these along side the real product, because honestly that's the only true way to compare them. Just all around good content. STAY SAFE

[@dan-dan-da-treeman]

Thumbs down scam bot.

[@livewithnick]

You bought a copy of the original non xtorq 372 and the Husqvarna you bought is an xtorq saw. Which is why the decomp is in different places.I’m not a big fan of the Chinese saws but they have their place. It definitely needed the carb adjusted.

[@onsight2822]

Great video man 😎 Shame about the fuel prices 🙄 Good old potato Joe hey 🤦‍♂️

[@svenshanah]

My 371XP has the Decomp button in the barrel, my 372 has it on top. I was told by the local shop who employs one of the areas' saw hot rodders, that the 371 and 372 were the same saw (never even mentioned the cc difference? ) with exception to the 372 having a little over a pound of extra plastic..which he said was odd because it didn't need strengthening in his opinion, he'd never seen a 371 that broke itself. I've always wanted to strip my 2 saws and one of these China's down to see what plastic injection molding differences are or aren't.

[@SoCalMisfit712]

I do firewood down here in SoCal. I get all of my wood from tree services, now I see why I get 8” by 36” round cookies 🤦‍♂️. Man I hate them things, great videos keep it up man. Make them things 16” 😉

[@jamesmclennan3618]

Fantastic yet again Jacob would love to see a 881 vs 3120

[@Bearclaw_Jake]

Maybe a silly question, but does husky oem parts fit on the Chinese saw? If so, it might be worth buying one. Especially someone learning to mod saws.

[@conorgriffiths7917]

Yes they do I have done that exact thing

[@6769paul]

you might have to let it break in until you get full horse power out of that engine , seemed to me the Stihl in late 90s where kinda of like that. The trim saws before the 200t I think they where 192s kinda same way. I still run my 372 xp must be 20 years old

[@shaneelson]

He swings two chainsaws in a tree, 100 feet off the ground, but cant talk 'cause he has sawdust in his mouth 😂😂 Legend Jake 👍

[@DaveyBlue32]

I wish I had the opportunity to port that Farmertec saw …it would be a totally different animal!!!

[@johnsweeney3060]

Great video, hard work on men and machines… was feeling the heights while sitting on my couch.

[@nepaoutdoors8536]

Usually those holzfformas need to be tuned some before using.

[@Eric-gi9kg]

Always enjoy listening to two different saws..Husky vs Stihl. Husky's have a deeper sound..while the Stihl is much more higher pitched. I love my Husky

[@larrywarner9314]

First thing Jake that's an xtorq model , the old school style is like the holtzforma model

[@GUCR44]

Hey man! Hope you are good today.. Thanks for the videos.. It's alot of work

[@BGWenterprises]

The gray market saw 372 is a gen1 version, or so called dirty emissions. The OEM is a gen 2 or x torque with so called cleaner emissions. The gen1 is a slightly lower rpm saw with more lower end power, versus the gen2. The OEM stopped makeing the gen1s in about 2010. . I run a gray 372 with the oversized 52mm jug and no base gasket, has amazing compression. Runs a 8 tooth sprocket with 28" bar. For a 32" bar i go to a 7 tooth.

[@ryanbruner8928]

I never knew that was how Husqvarna numbered their saws?!! Thanks for that info!!!

[@garbizzi6868]

I just got one of these hulzforma 372xpz and i definitly was a little doggish until i got it tuned in with a digital tach ,i think at the factory they just make sure tbey start . almost like they keep em running a little rich and undertuned. On the otherhand the real husky 372 i believe they tune it to spec before they give it the👍

[@Vipex_134]

I kind of have an addiction to watch this guy review and test holzfforma. The g466 was super cool