1.18 will RUIN Minecraft (as we know it)

[@irisshea6313]

I feel like humans kinda have two modes: wishing we could re-experience something for the first time, and panicking when something familiar becomes unfamiliar

[@TheTriple2000]

The concept of taking things for granted I supposed. Humans are flawed in this area in that as much as we can love something, that love can slowly drift away if we have too much of it or is too comfortable with it. Only when they're gone or out of our reach would we start to panic and feel stronger emotions for it.

[@fredmeister]

this makes literally no sense

[@marshmallowvampire8503]

I kinda know what you mean. We need something stable and familiar sometimes. When something we adore is changed it feels a little like we're loosing a piece of ourselves. But then there are people who like new stuff and changes all the time. For me it's both. In Minecraft, I wanted to explore more, develop building techniques, and have a giant map on my wall of the world I conquered. But either I don't have that much time, or I prefer peace and simplicity, so I end up in a small, familiar area and a crappy house that I'm happy with.

[@snaildude268]

@@fredmeister yet it's true

[@pidza_hub7532]

bruh just say people

[@kittydemonoverkill]

One thing I'd like to say: to be fair, we asked for this update. We got the Biome Vote, and there was high demand for a cave update. The Biome chosen in the Biome Vote was mountains.

[@VEYISLIGHTNINGPROOF]

Best of both worlds, eh Luigi?

[@cookieluvsu]

@Märt Kaljuvee Majority rules, and that's fair.

[@KwazyTV]

We didn't know how it would be implemented tho

[@yurtle13x]

@@KwazyTV and it turned out to be great asf

[@benjaminpolitics]

@@yurtle13x yeah

[@BERRYBEEMSTER]

I have been playing since 2013 and have never felt any version to be "my version" I have always jumped between version, old to new, new to old, and through that never felt any to be mine. I always play the new update until the next. The game is my home, not the version.

[@waycnf7229]

I used to be like that, but I found myself attached to 1.8 and it's follow ups (the sub update things like 1.8.2 and 1.8.9). Nothing wrong with 1.9, I just find 1.8 more fun

[@Princess_Garnet]

While I don't particularly feel attached to certain older versions, now that you mention it, there is an "era" of versions I consider "my original Minecraft" and for me that'd be 1.2.5 through 1.6.4 (I got the game at release 1.2.5). I definitely feel like the game has only gotten better overall, so i prefer newer versions... but I also get how others prefer certain version(s) as there are changes that eventually make things "different" for some people. The video describes examples like beta 1.8 and release 1.9 as big updates for the reason they added or changed things that impacted the fundamental gameplay loop for many. In my case, however, it was release 1.7 that the first major one that changed a lot for me. While 1.7 added a lot of biomes and blocks and items and I loved all that, it majorly impacted world generation, and not all in ways that I preferred. I miss oceans being oceans instead of glorified lakes, and the climate zones are so strict that they make worlds more monotonous than earlier versions, despite having more biomes to offer. For someone who's playstyle is largely "explore and build the world up" and "stick to one/very few worlds", this one was the big shakeup for me. It's not that I didn't like it entirely.... but it was definitely different. And, there were also a lot of technical and performance changes with it as well (no more anti-aliasing without a workaround that itself stopped working right later, big changes to resource packs, big performance increases, etc.), which 1.8 was also guilty of (this one also removed Advanced OpenGL and implemented new culling methods and changed rendering which, to this very day, I see still has issues where portions of terrain may just... disappear based on the angle you are viewing it from...). 1.8 also had a bad technical approach on how to implement the new water temples, and anyone with a world from 1.6.4 or prior will tell you why. Since I pre-generated my world to keep a consistent square border before 1.7 released, this behavior of 1.8 also gave me a major headache as a result, and sometimes just forced already generated regions to start resetting. For my and my playstyle at the time, and the way i had handled my one world I was playing, 1.7 and 1.8 were a major one two punch that left me feeling like the 1.6 and earlier era was "home" for a while. So, while they didn't add any new gameplay things I didn't like, I seemingly stand in contrast with most of the community as I dislike these two updates almost the most, and absolutely loved the supposedly controversial followup that was 1.9 (I'm not a PVP player so I was fine with all the combat changes to where 1.8 and prior feel archaic now, and I loved the changes to the end). But ultimately, I agree with you. Minecraft feels like Minecraft throughout to me, even if certain versions are radically different and feel like different chapters or eras, they all still feel like Minecraft. It's a ten year old game so it has had to change to stay relevant, and I think the game has basically only been getting better with each update (yes, even 1.7 and 1.8 made it better overall).

[@tomfooleryjohn6176]

Exactly how I feel. I version hop, often. I play alpha, beta, any version, modpack, anything that interests me. But it’s still the same game to me. No version is “mine”. The closest thing I have to that is TU9 on X360. That was my first ever version, and it’s the one that got me into this rabbit hole that is this beautiful game. It’s Minecraft, it always has been, and I’ll always love it.

[@dmg755]

As a bedrock player I like having the 1.8 style combat while also having 1.9 things such as shields and the elytra which is the reason I don't have that one version I play on other then newest version.

[@autopsyturvy]

"My" version was always 1.9, the first version I sort of officially started on. I didn't swap versions until 1.12, the world of color update. Ever since then, I've followed the flow of updates; whenever optifine (or other FPS boosting mods) update, I do. I switch back to 1.8 to play on Hypixel, I jump around versions for modpacks and servers, I play the latest full update (with optifine) in my single player worlds. I find it really weird to learn that people are such purists and haven't went past 1.7. It's baffling.

[@TalonMerlin777]

I love everything about version 1.18 EXCEPT how big and specifically frequent huge caves are. I don't like having a beautiful hilly landscape cut RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE with a BIG-A** HOLE. There needs to be a setting to change caves' amplification.

[@creamtoned]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! i literally so badly just miss PLAINS. i cant even go anywhere or into any lake without getting hit with a huge cave or a big mountain. ive never been a caver to begin with, just a strip miner, and i just do not like the frequency of the new caves and structures more than anything. i like building and this update makes it hard to find just. nice pleasant plains without a cavern or moutain in sight

[@egon3705]

@@creamtoned generate a 1.17 world, load some chunks in creative, then update to 1.19

[@LowerDragon]

This is exactly my problem with the update. You can't go mining anymore without stumbling into a massive wide open cave that goes all the way to the bottom. I miss the smaller tunnel like caves where everything was given to you in bite sized pieces, making finding your way out easier. The caves are just too big now and are a pain in the ass when you actually are looking for resources.

[@maxwelltrego665]

I've played for 9 years, and I'm really excited for 1.18, I feel like I'm gonna be playing for the first time all over again with a sense of mystery and excitement as I explore the new caves.

[@perdasche]

Yeah, same!

[@someonerandom704]

I'm in a similar boat. Got the game in 2011 and have mostly appreciated the features and changes. I think the only update I have ever truly disliked was 1.14, the one that changed the textures. You can still play with the old textures though, and there are resourcepacks that fix model issues and blend new blocks with the old style. I actually really love this particular update because I've always found that the caves were lacking.

[@truliny-xyz]

Congratulations for me and you too, now I'm going y to finally play minecraft because I don't want to lose my minecraft world I made in 1.17 😃

[@martinkalk8256]

This video is a dumb take, you can play any version on java

[@narchu123]

@@martinkalk8256 Not after you migrate accounts to shitty microsoft accounts. I literally cant play mc and both mojang or microsoft can give two shits, luckily the updates look boring af and doesnt really add much to the game

[@TRVladdy]

I remember playing it way back when there was no hunger. Begging my mom to get it for me until she finally got it on the family pc. all I had was a simple wooden box and just like the games simplicity back then, it wad enough for me to get hours if happiness. Now, do I see my heart stuck in the past? not really. As time went on, i grew up and looking back, it felt like the game was growing up with me. while I do switch to 1.8.9 whenever I play pvp, I still think that every update is shaping the game into a better version of itself.

[@drep6268]

same i joined in 1.2 when i was still in kindergarden, been playing near everyday since then, probably clocked over 10k hrs into this game i remember when beds, something so significant were added, and the controversy that followed, when hunger was added and the controversy that followed, in fact every major update ive seen had some form of controversy, i personally have fond memories of many of the versions, playing with my childhood friends from .2 - 7, first time logging onto hypixel in 1.8 with new friends from middle school and the hype that was happening throughout that period, figuring out the new pvp in 1.9 and messing around with the near invincibility i got from food saturation , helping moderate servers through .10 to .13(also going crazy fiddling with the elytra) though, atleast for me i think this is likely where i will leave the game, how long its been didnt really set in with me until one day whilst i was moderating a server that was still in 1.12 and had a new player ask 'how to change villager professions; since the job blocks werent in the game yet, guess i feel like im out growing this game thats been here my entire childhood and i dont quite feel like i belong anymore, finding it more and more difficult to accept what is new though this game shall always have a special spot in my heart

[@elgitarr_]

i remember watching my cousin play this game back in 2011. i didn't even know what it was called, but it utterly blew me away. i got minecraft myself on december 24th, 2012, and i've clocked more hours in this than any other game i've ever played. i agree, the game has grown as we have. to think that i've almost played for a decade is insane.

[@Cheesehead302]

Lol, I remember my friend and I watching Seananner's play the game on my Wii Internet Browser in like 2010 or 11, then I spent days trying to figure out how to download it for free. Eventually I did, but our laptop was basically destroyed with viruses because of the stuff I downloaded, and the game rand at like 7 fps. When ny friend and I finally started playing, we didn't know how to break blocks because we thought you had to spam click instead of hold it down lmao.

[@GalazyProductions]

Damn. I'm not nearly as og as yall, I started playing on 1.7. I didn't even know it could get updates, when it went to 1.8 I was amazed with everything new.

[@slishslash9202]

Lol I literally just got minecraft a 1.13 I've known it as long as I could remember..

[@EnricoUniverse]

For me personally, this update is the one I needed to get back into the game.

[@TheCursedJudge]

I'm glad!

[@nobody-tj1mv]

Me too! I have thousands of hours hundreds of worlds and dozens of unfinished cities. But now… kind of bored of the world itself. This will make me go explore and being happy doing som

[@nitrogenfume9762]

Agreed. Personally, the caves update is one I've been patiently waiting for since the Adventure Update (I started on Beta 1.8, just before 1.0 released). At this point, I've put more than a year of real time into the game, and it's really exciting to see a bland, uninteresting feature (in my opinion) - and one that has gone essentially unchanged since I started playing - finally get the attention it deserves.

[@DarkStar14n]

@@nitrogenfume9762 I personally have wanted a cave update since Beta 1,6.

[@oofypig5220]

I always loved it even the new version too

[@iech0526]

As someone who has played Minecraft since 1.7.10, I think it’s just that some prefer stability, even if it means stagnation. I’m rather indifferent to the new combat system but I love the new ways players can build in Minecraft due to new trapdoor physics and new interactions between blocks and water.

[@worstspytf2824]

My grandad made a joke very similar to that Theseus but I can't remember it exactly, something along the lines of using this same axe for 30 years and its still works perfectly, and all it took was swapping the head and the body a few times.

[@TheCursedJudge]

It's called the Grandfather's Axe, its a similar thought experiment

[@worstspytf2824]

@@TheCursedJudge Heh, figures he would make something like that into a joke.

[@nogamer3033]

"A simple and calming game" Me with 1 hunger bar being chased by 5 skeletons and 2 baby zombies: I see your point but I must strongly disagree

[@user-yq7re8od1c]

Underrated comment

[@KENNYd04360]

I agree, and add Minecraft without mod can be like an horror game, sometime.. So not a calming game.

[@playingbandits3033]

and creeper falls in front of you

[@sweetwater6319]

It can be sometimes

[@nvs0p]

@@playingbandits3033 creepers can be easily avoided/not getting any damage dealt by them, even with no armour

[@malachy7986]

Minecraft is a funny game for me. I played through Alpha and Beta and I still get nostaglic for those memories and understand the side of the community that loves Beta 1.7, it really is what I still think "Minecraft" should be. I've been loving the direction Mojang is now taking the game, I almost get the same feeling old school Minecraft gives me when I play these newer updates. You can see the care they now put into updates (which I think they used to lack sometimes). The caves and cliffs update honestly is what we all imagined the minecraft world to be like years ago, big mountains, deep dark caves, I think we are finally watching Mojang fully embrace their artistic vision of what Minecraft should be. Yes the ship is getting parts replaced but they're upgraded parts and I love it.

[@rylenstuffsv2]

I completely agree and it's like it's all just the beginning even though it's been 10 years since the game released and I'm in awe by that fact it's still going

[@TheCharmedRose]

i love the way you articulated this!! i totally agree

[@BenoHourglass]

Note that when the Elytra was released you couldn't actually use rockets to boost you. That came later. What people learned to do at the time was hit themselves with a punch bow in order to gain momentum.

[@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32]

Punch bow and there is also a very specific method for gliding to get yourself more energy atleast that was the case in 1.16.

[@duser]

The fluid nature if Minecraft is what keeps people coming back. Seriously tell me would you still be playing it if you only had 5 ores and a barren nether with few structures to explore. You can probably play this game for you entire life with how much stuff they're slowly adding. Getting bored with the mechanics? Come back 3 years later and experience a different yet familiar game. It's beautiful, fluid, and inviting. Still it is amazing they still offer the old versions in the launcher for you to enjoy whenever.

[@gregorsapien1508]

That is so true! I was getting bored of Minecraft so I stopped playing it 4 years ago. Recently I started playing it again and I just love the new stuff they've added.

[@TheGamePixelz]

I prefer old minecraft because I can make meaningful changes through mods with full customizability. Modern minecraft doesn't give you options. Don't like the new combat? Too bad, deal with it. 1.8 is still the most feature complete minecraft has ever been. Most subsequent updates have felt like minor mods (seriously why are bees necessary to the core of the game) and 1.8 has tons of mods that do everything modern minecraft has been updated to do and better if you like those features because of how long it was the standard. Not only do I have more ores and a better nether, i also have the aether and tons of other dimensions.

[@Ithrial420]

@@TheGamePixelz well honeycomb are apart of the main game because of their uses one Honey Cone can wax copper block so they'll stay a certain point that you wanted to and honey blocks are literally slime blocks but they don't connect the slime blocks it's redstone

[@jonathanchisholm3319]

Its the fact that they are adding frogs, that's not Minecraft And the fact that bedrock doesn't have that ability to go back in the different updates, never mind play with other people in those updates, and they are stupid for not having that ability

[@Bloxstrosity6209]

@@jonathanchisholm3319 yeah hate frogs for an entire year then forget about it just like 1.9 and beta 1.8 lol you'll feel everything added to Minecraft "modded" but you'll eventually get used to it unless you do really hate IT, TO THE POINT THAT YOU WILL REMEMBER IT TILL DEATH OF YOURS

[@sean..L]

You handled this controversial subject well. I'm not being sarcastic, there are people who take Minecraft very seriously and the points you presented are at least worth considering.

[@Goatfricker69]

Like technoblade says Minecraft(games) should be taken seriously it is serious business and if you dont follow that rule you will be cursed by the potato/blood god to never eat potato again(fries included)

[@jessveness]

@@Goatfricker69 what

[@alanmiraanime]

@@Goatfricker69 u ok?

[@endrio_endermite9612]

@@Goatfricker69 who would dare to be cursed by potato god? Ughh the thought of bring cursed by inflamous *potato* *god* gives chills down the spine.🥶

[@farelitoh4810]

@@Goatfricker69 hey could you remove the last part of that comment because it really makes you look like a pretentious stan

[@sachacendra3187]

As an occasional player, I really feel like older versions of minecraft were empty and lacked content in some ways. It is not surprising that the cave update was demanded for so long and finally showed up. Updates since 1.0 consisted a lot in filling the game : filling surface biomes, filling oceans, filling the end, filling the nether and now filling the caves. As I see it, it's a natural progression, and each major updates is what bring me back to the game. Also I feel like the game with the caves and cliffs is at last complete. I do feel nostalgic for the beta, it's simpleness and emptiness made the charm of the game. I don't really wish to come back to it though, because of its simplicity emptiness. I think I will never get the very special feeling of playing it for the first time and that's okay. But thank for your perspective. It was really nice to hear.

[@thenotfunnyvideos1035]

Next we need to fill the sky I want to go to the moon now

[@smoonyd]

I agree, I think 1.0 was a shell for what will come, a template. I think that shell is nearly finished. What comes next is unknown. Maybe Minecraft 2? Maybe the end of Minecraft? Who knows. And to the guy above me, YES WE NEED THAT! GIVE US THE MOOOOON!

[@realquadmoo]

Honestly I was scared when they announced Caves and Cliffs because I felt like it was just something people pretended they wanted, because they just wanted a modded experience in vanilla, but thankfully Mojang managed to add it in their own way.

[@Kratos_1572]

They still need to do dessert and savana

[@kelxsunny143]

This Beautiful Speech = WE NEED AN END UPDATE

[@parkouristbobbyd227]

Caves and cliffs is literally the best thing that happened to the game in a long time. I still yearn for the older, simpler versions and I miss the memories I made on Xbox 360 version of Minecraft. Memories are just memories, and the good old days weren't all that good. To have free updates that expand the depth of the game, introduce new mechanics and refine old ones, Minecraft is undoubtably the best video game in history. No other game you can get nowadays will release with free, expansive, bug-free updates on a $30 game. I miss my childhood memories and I'm glad this game still makes me come back to it a decade later. Fantastic video that encapsulates all my thoughts about this update.

[@bigboyjohn9850]

hard agree

[@BreadBup]

Terraria

[@glakill9780]

yes

[@willmungas8964]

Terraria, and the devs arguably maintain better community relations

[@decorumpantroglodytes5962]

Technically 1.18 didn’t fully replace the old caves and extreme hills, they still do exist, they are just a little rarer

[@minorcomet282]

Ngl I kinda like the extreme hills. not because anything specific, just cuz they look funny

[@shaneharding7399]

A little rarer? I haven't seen one since.

[@decorumpantroglodytes5962]

@@shaneharding7399 They are a little hard to find, but extreme hills and carvers still do exist

[@daktotathecolossus7404]

Well not even rarer. I think most of the new caves are deeper like below y 0 and in mountains so old caves wikk still be there

[@lilorangefella]

i think the way it’ll be handled will be that the old caves will lead into the new ones once you delve deep enough

[@kaseym2040]

This video was shockingly wholesome. I’m excited for change but I understand the want for things to remain the same. Both schools of thought are valid as far as I’m concerned but as my dad always says, “the only thing constant is change.” Bring on the update!

[@spartan876_A28]

I know we'll all gonna miss the past... *But this was meant to be*

[@kraftykactus1028]

I mean,,, you can keep playing on older updates. People still use 1.8 because they don't like the new combat.

[@EthmMC]

Honestly, this video has given me a new view into Minecraft, it’s never gotten worse, it’s only gotten better. It’s one of those games that will never be at one point in time forever, it’ll always be changing.. And that’s okay. As you said, people will drift away (Be left at docks), and some will sail with the ship. I do agree that with 1.18, nearly all the planks on the ship will be replaced, but it’s still Minecraft, just, a newer version of it. Thanks for this video, I really did love it, and it definitely did give me a new view onto where Minecraft is as a game now!

[@IceFlame963]

Yeah that's very true

[@gjorgdy]

"it’s never gotten worse, it’s only gotten better." Bedrock Edition be like; "you forgotten me?"

[@professor1262]

1.9 pvp made the game worse, and made online worse because they removed compensation to servers

[@aadarshroy3216]

@@gjorgdy It's usually just parity problems, the wither in bedrock is the more challenging.

[@amoebagaming9019]

@@aadarshroy3216 honestly ever since I shifted to Java for a while I miss having high render distance, in bedrock everything ran smooth even at max render distance, but when I play Java I need to keep like 12 chunks to have framers and have less frame drops, it’s honestly wanting me to go back to bedrock

[@Kdogdabomb]

This was a great video. However I've been playing since 2012 and for me, I love where the game has gone. Minecraft has a life of balancing and tweaking. Even game changing features, such as the elytra, are still slowly getting tweaked today based on dev intuition and player feedback. I'm along for the ride and loving it. That aside, the points in this video are not lost on me. All I can can say is at least you can play the game version you love whenever you want.

[@JokubasVas]

The best thing is that we can play almost all the versions all these years later, so everyone can be happy in their own version (This is my most liked comment ever, that's cool)

[@Juggernaut-bz1pt]

but for how long? I can see us having cracked/pirated old versions. If people can't experience the old good they can't complain about the new bad

[@davidbischi]

@@Juggernaut-bz1pt Java version is so moddable and tweakable. this will never happen

[@Juggernaut-bz1pt]

@@davidbischi at start of ms account migration they said theyre working on support for 3rd party launchers, now if you read faq it says we have no intention of supporting any 3rd party launcher also use at your own risk, its going to happen...

[@fnaffoxy1987]

@@Juggernaut-bz1pt The launcher allows you to use whatever version you like, no 3rd party launcher required. I don't see the problem you're talking about.

[@Juggernaut-bz1pt]

@@fnaffoxy1987 they cut support for 3rd party launchers...

[@jamesevans7510]

As prior military I can completely understand where you are coming from. Change is not always bad but it is often hard to deal with. I have closed two chapters in my life and getting ready for the end of a third. While this is "Only a game", it can be hard to admit to your self that things just aren't what they used to be and move on.

[@thermobarbaric]

how tf..

[@liv2485]

absolutely nothing stops you from playing older versions tho, tons and tons of people still play on old raggety 1.12 modpacks, those chapters arent closed, theyre just in the background

[@rylenstuffsv2]

Old players play 1.8 (mostly because the competitive gameplay), Modded players play 1.12, 1.16 and the people who are waiting for change are the 1.18 of course My opinion on base Minecraft is probably of course 1.18 and 1.16 because old and new

[@twirklesquirtle8826]

Thank you for your service

[@Solarris]

@@rylenstuffsv2 By Modded do you mean anarchy? Because if so there are many "modded" servers that run on future versions. The ones that don't are either simply too big to update (Like 2b2t) or just wannabes of 2b2t.

[@Missingno_Miner]

I started playing Minecraft shortly after it was bought by Microsoft, having watched people play it since the early days. Honestly, I don't think there has been any update which has truly changed it, only expanded on it. The adventure update added hunger. The combat update added layers of depth to the combat system. The Aquatic update turned the oceans from a dull biome populated only by squid into its own little world full of both life and danger. Village and Pillage transformed villages. The Nether Update added many new and beautiful biomes. Caves and Cliffs part two will add beautiful new world generation and even more room to build just about anything. The Wild update will drastically change redstone in the form of Sculk Sensors and the Allay, and bring that same beautiful world generation to biomes that were mostly left out. The eventual second combat update(the ones that currently exist in the form of the java edition combat tests)will once again add depth to the combat system. Upgrades and expanding on concepts is a form of change. But that's not a bad thing, and that a minority will feel left behind and play older versions is not a reason to leave everything the same. If you look objectively at Minecraft now and Minecraft before the adventure update, you see that while the version before the adventure update may induce nostalgia in some, Minecraft today is a game that is far more complete, far more in depth, and which holds far more possibilities(Which, I would argue, is a big part of the point of sandbox games like Minecraft.) Change does not ruin a game. It is merely the game growing and expanding. Maybe it slowly turns into something new. But in the end, it's still the minecraft we all know and love. It has merely grown with us, and while some may find that they have grown apart, many others will find that they have grown closer to it than ever before.

[@nobleradical2158]

The thing that people complain about, the thing that was lost, was not something tangible. It was the simplicity of not having more depth. I agree - change is good. But some don't want minecraft to change, because extra depth would take away from the calmness of the simple old versions. I definitely think that old versions of minecraft should always be playable.

[@Missingno_Miner]

@@nobleradical2158 I understand that, but at its core, Minecraft is inherently simple:a game about picking up and placing blocks, about surviving and thriving in a hostile world. That's something that will never change.

[@JimBobJoeB0b]

@@Missingno_Miner a simple concept, simple on paper...but you must realize things are usually far more complicated than they appear on paper, eh?

[@Missingno_Miner]

@@JimBobJoeB0b At its most basic, it's still simple in practice. Under the mobs, redstone, and crafting, it's still a survival game about moving virtual lego.

[@JimBobJoeB0b]

@@Missingno_Miner but even so, enough changes and additions to that core can somewhat obscure, or even *nullify*, that simplicity, and complexity becomes more apparent. Not that said changes are inherently bad...

[@Askorias]

I've been playing Minecraft since 2012 and I can tell you: these updates didnt ruin the game at all. I still somehow feel that atmosphere Minecraft gives you when you play and although I miss the older versions of the game, I still prefer the newer ones. You have to admit: the updates are really good, actually amazing, it's just the game you were used to has changed a lot.

[@x288.]

im with you on that, i even started playing minecraft pe lite in 2011 or 2012 then got the xbox 360 edition later on in 2012 or 2013, i was like 5 or 6

[@ghostofthefallenvalkyrie3320]

Same. My sister and me have played it since about 2012 (I don't rlly know but I think since the redstone update,-) and we still get excited over new updates and I personally love them because I'm more of a builder and the possibilities just grow and grow. I'm really excited for the frogs that will be added the next update because well they're cute and they add to the cottagecore/fairycore aesthetic which I really like.

[@hendoodle34]

You’re not a true Minecraft gamer then

[@Askorias]

@@hendoodle34 Why is that? What makes someone a true minecraft gamer?

[@doot7730]

I'm with you. I played around 1.6 dropped around 1.9 and came back in 1.16 the new caves made me so happy and gave me cultureshock. I could see my foes and the ores. I got lost in a cave not because it was windy. But because it was vast so I climbed up and out finding my way home. How I can see cave bases being used and ladders to the surface

[@djdoser3917]

Its somewhat like the fact that your body is "renewed" every 7 years. The cells that were there 7 years ago, were all replace over time by new ones. So can you still call yourself you? Yes, of course, but I cant call myself the same me I was 7 years ago.

[@PKpanzerkrieger]

Good point!

[@seaninglin1967]

thats a partial myth - some parts, like sections of your brain, never get replaced

[@Jaaacken]

Your brain is you, and It's still the same.

[@PKpanzerkrieger]

@@seaninglin1967 Imagine to learn something that deep under a minecraft video.

[@droidicalwars38]

@@seaninglin1967 No, every PART of you never changes. You're still the same you whenever you grow up, guys!

[@TheVeryHungrySingularity]

Minecraft's evolution has been q lot like Lego's: The types and complexity of blocks have ballooned over the years, but it is only as complicated as you want it to be. At the end of the day, you can play however you want to have fun.

[@VoprotheGamer]

I feel like my heart won't belong to a specific MC update. And that, every update is like a new chapter in a book. It adds onto the story. Some details get replaced and some are forgotten. But in the end, you're on the same journey.

[@65Mystery]

this makes sense. my heart belongs to 1.12, even if not much happened then. I just remember being so excited back then for everything, so any update was awesome

[@Oodelally]

I believe the reason why I grew incredibly attached to older Minecraft versions (release 1.8 in particular) is because it was the latest version for such a long time! It was also the time where I began to have the most fun I’ve ever had in Minecraft!

[@ariellahopfer3163]

I pre-ordered the day the alpha was available and i love how the game has evolved and changed. I love old school MC, but it has to change to stay relevant and fresh.

[@ariellahopfer3163]

@Konata Izumi oh god, i am becoming a fucking boomer

[@V1Salvo]

I completely disagree with you, BUT this video is one of the highest quality minecraft videos I’ve ever watched. You present your points clearly, interestingly and effectively. I really enjoyed to hear your opinion on this situation. I hope you make many more of these types of videos, I’ve subscribed :). You don’t even have many subscribers, which considering the quality of this video, I can’t believe it. Loved it.

[@JamesDayleyMusic]

You've earned my respect lol ✌ I wish people responded like this to political views

[@MistSGM]

@@JamesDayleyMusic I wish that too. But, well this is the internet and it's full of snowflakes, 9 year olds who gets offended easily and worships Cancel Culture like their religion... But at least there are still people with constructive criticism that doesn't want to argue and just say their own opinion without being mad when someone disagrees

[@thewiseowl8804]

What do you disagree with?

[@V1Salvo]

@@thewiseowl8804 the updates ruining the game. I joined Minecraft on PS3, and when I get nostalgia for the game, it’s never about the PS3 version, it’s usually about big moments I achieved in the game, or the game’s music. I even went back to play PS3 Edition, and Bedrock is so much better imo. I did get nostalgia from the menus, but I don’t miss the console editions, I think bedrock is great. I also have played Experimental 1.17 Caves & Cliffs, and the new caves are amazing. I don’t know if I’ll miss the old caves, but the old caves are still existent, they just lead to the new caves. The mountains are great. Nothing I dislike in the update. I just hope they don’t go too overboard with the caves, diamonds are already too easy to find. My friend and I found 62 diamonds in one cave without Fortune, yet barely found 20 iron. I hope that gets fixed soon. Other than that, I always love the updates. Either way, I can always go on my PS4 which I use as an Offline Console to play 1.16. My Xbox Series S will always be updated.

[@V1Salvo]

@Lith lol I just disagree but he makes good points

[@picklesrevenge]

You know. I'm really excited for the new caves like you wouldn't believe. I've been wanting deeper worlds for a long time. But... there's something that has me nervous. The caves I've explored since 2010... are changing. It's like... a long-time friend is moving across the country and you'll rarely see them. I'm going to miss the caves as they are, and as they've been. I'm excited, and I hope the new caves don't push me away.

[@soupe.silent_e]

Hopefully they will still keep the "cozy" caves we're used to, but alongside the new cave generation. :)

[@innerecho9468]

@@soupe.silent_e they are

[@soupe.silent_e]

@@innerecho9468 That can make a cheese wheel happ, and it already has. :)

[@Technoninja]

Don't worry the caves that you know are still around just intertwined with the new and flashy cave generation

[@bigcnmmerb0873]

The caves are still going to remain the same, there are just different variants to it now

[@qs-ii1872]

11 years going strong, I might never drop this game. I was there to see the introduction of tree variants, the Nether for multiplayer, and the growth of its popularity from obscurity to immense popularity. Though I have stepped away here and there, Minecraft has a charm that always pulls you back in. We might have habits, we might fall back on outdated methods, we might even play on in ignorance of whole new mechanics. That’s just fine. Minecraft exist to play in whatever way we can dream of. With VR, mod packs, adventure maps, creative build teams, Minecraft is made to be as flexible as possible. Minecraft’s identity is it’s flexibility and ever changing nature. Minecraft is whatever we want it to be. Any mobs, biomes, or tools added won’t do anything but aid it in its creative potential.

[@theflooddude1753]

I like to believe that the ship question is similar to asking someone if they’re still themselves after a long time, yes they grew a lot and changed in almost every way but inside there still the same person Like Minecraft, it’s changed but deep inside Its still Minecraft to a lot of people.

[@KaziKami]

Ur gonna think im stupid but i thought your pfp was invincible with glasses 😂

[@mdbgamer556]

@@KaziKami No, it's obviously yellow Thanos.😛

[@blueblade6174]

Minecraft's core is still maintained throughout all updates. But everything added is to expand the game into limitless possibilities, because that's also one of Minecraft's cores. Without these updates, it gets much easier to fall out of Minecraft after most or all of it has been experienced.

[@Rubixers]

i agree and just because the new updates everyone is playing doesn't mean you can still go back to the old ones

[@ItsMeJames]

Wow nice video man I had chills at the end lol

[@BrBlBa]

Same! Lol I still have them and I just finished the video! And hello to you James :)

[@Buzzee538]

Why?

[@jeanjames4335]

IKR

[@armani_is_gucci]

Came to the comments to say the same thing

[@kajetanmajewski1256]

All dislikes didnt watched the video

[@zackyboi2048]

I love a lot of things they’ve done with this game and a lot of the things they’ve added, but when I went and played Beta 1.7 recently, the nostalgia hit me so hard I cried a bit. It’s untouchable, and so noticeably more relaxing, calming, and beautiful. I built the coolest mansion ever out of quartz, which is much more recent than Beta 1.7, but I rarely go back and visit. The trees, the grass, everything is simply beautiful.

[@titussoke9685]

The answer is simple, Minecraft is just growing up..

[@steelstrider2624]

Ive been playing since the alpha builds, and ive loved every update, i never go back to old versions with the exceptions of modpacks. in a game like minecraft, more is better to me. more blocks to use for building, more places to build more to explore, I love all of it and i dont hold any specific nostalgia to any one update

[@DJMurdock]

same

[@m2lansky]

I just want to feel challenged

[@tommasolarghetti]

Agree. I started playing minecraft in 2011/2012 when it was 1.1. At the time there wasn't birch or spruce wood, jungle, desert and jungle temples, logs couldn't be placed in any direction even the stairs. Now i'm 21 and I love whenever they add something, the game evolved and grew with me. Yes I am nostalgic but I can't stuck in the past for nostalgia. I can't wait to see what's next for Minecraft!

[@TwoManyFoxes]

The only nostalgia I hold it the sound track, which will, hopefully, never change

[@zackrose6261]

@@m2lansky Minecraft was never really a challenging game, I mean, you can make it challenging yourself by doing a hardcore run and limit the equipment you can use.

[@ubitialcosmos]

Kinda glad this popped into my recommended, you're an insanely good speaker, you're careful with how you said everything in case someone went off on one word, and your voice is so damn relaxing. Good work, man

[@TheCursedJudge]

A lot of people still went off of one word, but I do appreciate it. Have a good day, man.

[@temix3904]

The flow of the overworld is so much different now. Everything is almost too vast. I feel like it’s only plains, birch forests, and seas now. Then there’s either extreme flat land, or extreme mountains. It feels like there’s hardly any inbetween unless you venture thousands of blocks off to some near-endless forest or some other expansive land that’ll take ages to traverse. As great as it all looks, the overworld feels much more difficult to play. Everything feels so far apart now. (Most of the caves are sick tho)

[@annaliadesigns]

I was just playing today and I totally agree. Going through the snow biome was actually annoying me and it was so big I couldn't get out of it. I understand that bigger biomes are more realistic and probably allow for more as far as world generation. But as far as game play, its just kinda frustrating at times

[@officialprincelouie]

@@annaliadesigns at least the wild update will most likely revamp those biomes

[@capitainshazam5800]

i was playing the new update looking for a plains biome or desert, couldn't find any. Minecraft was a little stale before it but nowadays i can only find birch or ice.

[@officialprincelouie]

@@capitainshazam5800 Well tbf it all depends on the seed... Sometimes, you'll create a world where you spawn inside a village, with a desert temple or any other rare structure nearby, and other times you'll get a seed like you had lmao, where you spawn in a seemingly never ending forest biome... But hey, maybe they'll be more exciting after 1.19!

[@emilscoolakanal]

thats not how the world generation works

[@Querez8504]

Huh. I don't even get this feeling, really. Every update I'm always excited, I like practically every single new thing that gets added, and I always follow along with what gets added. I've been playing Minecraft since 1.1, and watching people play the game since even before Beta 1.8, yet I still feel that today's Minecraft is Minecraft. Yes, I realize many things are completely different, but when it comes to my experience with playing and the stuff I do, I feel the same all the time. Sure, I feel nostalgic for certain older updates, but I feel that that is separate. For me, no single version is the true Minecraft for me. I like all the updates.

[@jonh3141]

Same

[@redpaorzz]

Some people are scared of change. It's why they are stuck in 1.8.

[@THEKNOK]

Same as well

[@princetbug]

this is my position too. things like the combat update or beta 1.8 I totally get feeling like they really change stuff. but I don't think I can agree about the cave update. caving has been the same for so long, and yet other forms of adventure have received additions and updates and as someone who loves to mine and spelunk the only feelings I get toward this update are excitement. it's something the game naturally goes towards and has needed for years. it's just also something that's a big project and difficult to tackle. I think more people will gravitate to pre 1.9 than pre 1.18. significantly more, and of course many already do. that's just so much more of a fundamental change and less of an obvious direction for the game to go in. I mean seriously, imagine if these crazy changes to caves happened during the beta generation tinkering phase. it would be more of a footnote and not that big of a change. the caves and cliffs update is a change that really doesn't change the DNA of minecraft at all to me. it's perfectly what the game is already about. I don't see any separation of old game to new there, like the ship example. it's not "shiny and new" really. it's more like if you finally replaced the old rudder that was always too small and never quite did its job.

[@rudrasingh6354]

Same with me.

[@darthclanker6856]

ok so i think mojang should just have a "Old world generation" option. That way if you want massive caves you can get it, but if you just want the original experience, you can do that too.

[@Kenobi_SpaceJesus]

Hello.there

[@e_burg3ss287]

You can? You can just chose the old version

[@Keanine]

@@e_burg3ss287 and then you're missing out on new updated blocks and mechanics in the future. If they add the option for old generation you get all the new content still

[@madmannn9576]

@@Keanine make a world before 1.18 then upgrade along with it but you will still have the old chunks from before 1.18 then go to unloaded chunks to get all the new stuff

[@chris.maharaj4054]

@@Keanine are you forgetting the texture overload? Are you forgetting how complicated the store is? Are you forgetting the menu? Are you forgetting the old textures? Those things are gone. We can get the worlds back, but not the menu.

[@dragendghast]

9:32 small correction here: we couldn't use rockets to boost elytra until 1.11.2 I believe, so for a long time elytra were a lot harder to use and players had to build up entity launchers to get around effectively. So another instance of an update changing a big part of how people played would be the smaller 1.11.2 update

[@sspectre8217]

Remember boosting yourself with a punch 2 bow?

[@dragendghast]

@@sspectre8217 I do lol, good times XD

[@Incarnqte]

Yes! Bow-boosting!

[@ommer15]

hey just to make it clear that i was the one who made the "bountiful update" logo on 7:02, its taken from my reddit account

[@clydoscope5841]

But let's not ruin the hard work Mojang put into this, in this world everything changes, nothing is permanent... Nice video 👍 And as a veteran... This makes me cry....

[@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559]

what is ur kdr

[@HappyAngelhOLa]

@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 ????

[@mackadoodles]

I agree, this video made me sad too. The last update i could get on board with was probably 1.9 since I never really did any combat anyways and I kind of liked the elytra. That being said I don't want to take a dump on all the hard work that mojang did on these updates, it just is feeling less like mojang making the decisions and more like microsoft now.

[@prime_optimus]

@@HappyAngelhOLa He thinks this is GTA Online.

[@metademon]

Same, I’m trying not to cry Seeing a veteran of Minecraft leaving, if good or bad, breaks my old Minecraft heart I hope he finds peace in the future, and leave that port with the ship into the vast ocean of potential

[@chimekpiesek257]

Ah Minecraft, the game that evolved from placing stone to a community full of passionate players spending hours building, mining and crafting even tho the game went through multiple updates it still has our hearts and we all know we will eventually come back to play it once again.

[@ecstaticryan4369]

As cool as it is, it will be weird going from a veteran minecrafter who knows most stuff about the game, to having to relearn the biggest and most fundamental part if the game.

[@ravekicker]

actually im in that situation right now HAHA, however it's fun to experience new features in the game!!

[@majoraccident1924]

I mean, it's a lot better than getting bored

[@ARBUZIK.dudkin]

Minecraft will stay 1.8.9 for me forever but I grew to love 1.16 or 1.17 although I always find myself returning to 1.12 before the aquatic update before the new textures before the new nether or pandas. 1.12.2 is the last update of Minecraft to me that is the same as 1.8 but still new and fresh enough to satisfy my builder needs and with the new terrain generation it is extremely hard to build on because it's the opposite of flat and I will continue to build in 1.17 or 1.12. although I do feel a lot of people will consider 1.16 as the Minecraft of today because it was like 1.8. a long version that stayed, opposite of 1.17 which was quite short.

[@V972]

Great video. Since I strangely don't have this nostalgia, I don't really get people who cling to certain versions. Sure, I kinda understand the concept of nostalgia, but I just couldn't relate. Ever since I started playing from 1.2.5 I felt excited and mostly positive of new features, even changing ones. So this video is a great gateway to the mind of such players and it helped me understand thing subject more.

[@zhongli1139]

Yeah. Minecraft is Minecraft, and it will always be awesome no matter what Unless killing your dog turns into an achievement.

[@TheAetherleaf]

@@zhongli1139 Achivement earned:Ultimate Betrayal

[@buckyisdizzy]

@@TheAetherleaf reward: permaban

[@Justin-ul7fh]

@@zhongli1139 Minecraft Achievement: *Kill your dog in real life*

[@TheAetherleaf]

@@Justin-ul7fh :o

[@loverboyphobia]

This lowekey helped me out with something I'd been scared about for years. It made me realize that Change is natural and that we shouldn't fear it, if something is changing its still the same thing, just like we as humans are constantly changing.

[@ash_underscore_]

humans evolved from a primate but we're still primates, its not like we are in an entirely different order now, we still get primal rage

[@amateurbuilds682]

Well said

[@thanhtainguyen1499]

I personally really really like the new combat system as it created more depth and a degree a strategy. Back then you could practically solo any mob with your bare hands if you just continuously knock them back with your attacks. Not only that, it gives some complexity to pvp as the winner is no longer decided on who can spam buttons the fastest but who that remains calm and patient with their flow in combat

[@DoxToDox]

My only problem is the blocking. That shit was gold

[@yuyuko4232]

i really like the combat update cuz i suck at pvp

[@FoxSlyme]

@@yuyuko4232 not at pvp but at boring spam-clicking Edit: stop replying to me and read my latest reply!!!

[@yuyuko4232]

@@FoxSlyme nah, i really suck at 1.8 pvp

[@mot3600official]

Also you can now do different combat styles like axes for high damage or swords for a constant barrage of attacks

[@TheCrimsonCake]

I completely understand your points, but I must say, keeping it the same is always doomed for destruction to oblivion. I completely understand leaving, but you must realize leaving only makes it worse. It’s better to just evolve with the game, change like it changes, and then feel the balance on being the same page of the game and you. But your points were very well thought out and I really liked your style of portraying your them.

[@velarmnt]

constructive criticism, love it.

[@AldSotha]

I disagree with the creator of this KZbin video. His argument is basically like this -> "oh, i don't want to live as human, it sucks, i want to live as a SIMPLE FISH from 3 billion years ago. Before more complex forms of life evolved from the simple fish." (i don't really believe in evolution, but you get the point). I play MC probably for 8-10 years (not sure for how long), and i always liked new updates. MC in the past SUCKED. It was fun, but i don't feel very nostalgic about it. It was so incomplete, and lacking. When i started playing MC, there already was life bar (hearts, hunger, food etc), so i don't give a F about a SIMPLER version. Actually i started playing Creative, and then when i learned to play Survival, i never went back to Creative again!! 1.18 update is awesome. It's a bit difficult on the coal resource, because there's very little of it deep down. And also, exposure of raw ores in caves is lesser than before. But MC mining was too easy in the past, and i agree with the nerfs. The thing that plagues me are Phantoms (but they exist for years already, i know,). I refuse to sleep in MC, and i wanna build at night, and i hate to not be able to build outside, because Phantoms don't know how to stop spawning. Everything else is mostly alright. I don't want to be a simple FISH in water, that eat worms, and eventually gets eaten by a larger fish/shark. Being a complex human is far better, and i hope we evolve even further into Gods, irl, and i hope for more updates of MC in the future.

[@TheCrimsonCake]

@@AldSotha First of all, this was well thought out. Second, I believe that some of the earlier games had some merit to them, and I honestly would’ve loved to play them for a while longer. But as you’ve said, being fish stink, being monkey good.

[@AldSotha]

@@TheCrimsonCake Yap, monkey evolved, monkey can do a LOT of things :D hell, monkeys can even SWIM.

[@Henry-gp8tt]

@@AldSotha Yeah i agree. I have never played the older versions without hunger bar either so i can't possibly understand. But hey... my take on this is that the guy who made this video is blinded by nostalgia... Look i get it Minecraft used to be easier and simpler, but games evolve you either evolve with it and accept it or you die with the past. Just like real life.

[@aletlee179]

So in your conclusion, You will be stayed here on the docks (Ver. 1.8) *forever* while the other will go on to the next update? In my word that's fine, because your taste that you something you love is hard to move on. But in my case, I do something to find of myself; a new beginning from one to the new, and it's always been to move on every single update. I've been playing this game since 2011, started as a Minecraft Java Web (since is the only available I can play since back in the day), and then, I play in the Pocket Edition in 2012 until I stop since 0.8.0 because in the next update the 0.9.0 changes the world and bringing the introduction of infinite worlds. But then I have to move on and start playing that version and into the future. I adapt more and more into my experience in every single game but in my perspective, *it's still the same game* and it will always have in my eyes, just like me and you. As we grow older, our bodies will be going to change like a Ship of Theseus but we are still the same. But in our perspective, we live in our experience and it must adapt to every single event that has been hard on, so stop staying in the past and move forward to a better future.

[@grav8455]

I love this comment.

[@insertname4929]

Playing an updated version of a game isn't a chore though, things like hcf are fun and if you find a version you like, just play it. [Insert classic melee vs ultimate meme here]

[@AbbeyKitty1013]

Why a LONG COMMENT!?

[@Gold171]

Omg I almost forgot you could play Minecraft on the web browser way back in the day. Thanks for the “I’m getting old” check

[@liviwaslost]

@@AbbeyKitty1013 why not

[@Iffyish]

I haven't played Minecraft since pre-Microsoft, and I just redownloaded it. It's so different. KZbin let's plays couldn't prepare me enough. I had no house and 3 parrots on my first day. I just dropped into a winding abandoned structure when I expected some ores in a void cave. It's nothing like OG, but I still love it.

[@jacobrawlinson12]

You seen the village raids? That's crazy for vets

[@Iffyish]

@@jacobrawlinson12 not yet, but I will eventually! Joined an SMP but there's so few villagers left, had to travel to like 5k cords to even find one.

[@sspectre8217]

Have you tried the elytra, yet? Or explored the nether’s different biomes? Beating the Woodland Mansion is pretty cool too…

[@Iffyish]

@@sspectre8217 working towards it! (I've never really liked trying things in creative first, makes the discovery less exciting for me, but I've seen those things in passing on YT vids) I'm all prepped for the nether but I'm currently moving my base lol. Had a close call the other day w a player, n lost some items while exploring to those phantom things.

[@Iffyish]

So like, did anyone here ever make sculptures with graph paper before minecraft existed, or was it just me?🤣

[@ZarHakkar]

I first played Minecraft around beta 1.4. I was a kid with no money, so I played it in one of those free browser sites they had back then. It enthralled me, so much so that I eventually begged my parents to get it for me that same year so I could play multiplayer on legit servers. I remember being terrified of mobs and the night, of hiding in dirt holes, of digging through a series of caves that were running with water. It was incredible. Servers brought interaction I craved, the update that added pistons sparked my interest in redstone. I became good at it to be useful to people. Hopping through servers, I eventually settled down and became a regular on one. I made many friends, and eventually became an admin on it. However, it slowly died. Less and less people came on, until I too moved on. Seeking the purest form of Minecraft, I discovered 2b2t. I became a regular on that, eventually. It was different, a challenge. Refreshing. But the grind was too much. I realized that no matter what I did, the fulfillment of climbing to the top would never justify the effort. So I lost interest in Minecraft. I moved on, finished high school, did other things with my time. Discovered D&D as a hobby. Minecraft had its resurgence, which I noticed through KZbin recommended, but I didn't really care that much. Fast forward to 2020, I'm browsing YT for creepypastas. KZbin recommends me a cheesy video that's some sort of showcase of a Minecraft creepypasta world that's all broken and weird. I go down the rabbit hole and eventually watch a documentary on Herobrine, the myth of which I always kind of liked. Through this documentary, I find out that the most recent version of Minecraft released at the the time didn't actually specify in the changelog that they removed Herobrine. For some reason, this sparks something in me. I launch up Minecraft for the first time in forever, generate a world with the seed 666 and go ham. I was hunting Herobrine. That never worked out, but I did have a lot of fun. The greatest time I had was when I entered the new Nether for the first time (I had set a subgoal of collecting all music discs, so I needed the new Pigstep). I spawned in the crimson forest and, holy shit, it was like I was a kid experiencing the game for the very first time again. Things were new, and terrifying, and atmospheric. I liked Lena Raine's music in Celeste, so I recognized her style when the new tracks began to play. I played MC for quite a while longer, didn't travel to the End, though, life called me away before that. Now that I'm free again, I've been specifically waiting for the cave update before I play again. I hope it is a fun and exciting new experience, same as I had before.

[@zanepeterson777]

Right about the same experience

[@NyasuNasu]

I had similar feeling when they added horses. As small as it seems, it was a big deal for me personally. Now I think back, it is trivial now. I found bigger and profounder ways to dig out fun out of minecraft. Game will change as people can change. One might keep its core preference but it also has the chance to change. To reflect that, minecraft must keep evolving.

[@LunadeMusic]

I’ve been playing since beta 1.7.3, and I was able to play the game during beta 1.4 at my grandmother’s house. I honestly feel like the game has only gotten tremendously better from there! I love the new combat system, I love the new caves and mountains, I love the new Nether, the new oceans, new villagers, everything about it. The only thing I missed was how the terrain in beta 1.7.3 was shaped, but now that’s returning in 1.18 with MASSIVE upgrades to it! I do see where you’re coming from though, and I do respect it- not everyone has the same taste.

[@MaksLangerd]

Hmm.. I understand Your point. I left playing the game after the End was introduced. I had this strange feeling that this game is going into direction i wont like - and i quitted. After some years i saw some videos on Yt where people played aquatic update and i was interested in the game again. When i came back - i loved it even more than before BUT i didnt forget about the End dimension which is still my least favourite part of the game. When i found the stronghold, went trhough the portal and killed the dragon - i realized two things: 1. Nothing has changed here. It is horrible designed place and it is still boring in my opinion and nothing is changed. 2. However... nobody is making me to play this part of the game. There is a lot i can focus on and i can play the game like i wanted to play. And i stick to point 2. You can play whatever you like - it is our choice. On the other hand as someone with very similar feeling in the past i suggest to give this update a try. Sometimes change is for better . I wouldnt say that this update will ruin Minecraft - It will change it no doubt about. But i highly recommend to try it really and try slowly adapt :)

[@kambi-lol]

"If Minecraft Had Circles, It Wouldn't Be Minecraft" - Kyler Patrick

[@Kentucky_Caveman]

Now many more people will see how me and the older guys feel. Yall's minecraft 1.8 is like our beta 1.7.3.

[@mozambique32762]

I don't get it lol

[@mikogulu]

Yo dude, youre totally right

[@a_angry_bunny]

I mean, it really isn't that much different. You can still stripmine and everything else you use to do before 1.8.

[@fatty1040]

@@a_angry_bunny so chores?

[@Life-vt8yi]

I can understand Maybe once I see a big update later I would have the same reaction I did feel a little scared for the game during the livestream 2020

[@David12754]

I’ve always found the nostalgic minecraft community interesting as they usually split into two groups one that misses the game being “difficult” and “fantastical” and the other that misses the game being “calm” and relaxing”. We all have different experiences in Minecraft which is amazing and these updates will just give each experience more variety. Each adventure will always be different, the world will be more motivational and inspiring, and the lore will be even more mysterious. The game is still just as calming as before and just as difficult. The updates are only giving us more opportunities to use our imagination to its fullest potential. Minecraft is a sandbox game and the only time Minecraft should be ruined for anyone is when that fact changes.

[@alienxotic5028]

the game is literally harder now lmao. The new nether is much more challenging. Combat was easier in earlier versions because of spam clicking. There are much stronger mobs than the basic night creatures. The enderdragon has an actual AI.

[@BionicleFreek99]

I understand your trepidation, but as someone who has played the game since the first versions came out, I can tell you that in someone's opinion every update since Alpha 1.2.6 has "ruined" the feel of the game. The game by its very nature has changed a lot even from alpha to beta, and even more since then, I don't think this is a bad thing, I think it's just the nature of it. I remember that when pistons were added there was a VERY vocal sub-group of the community that swore on the hill they wanted to die on that pistons being added to the game would DESTROY it, irreparably ruin the game by changing it so fundamentally as to add a mod to it. This happens every update since then, and especially every update since 1.0, something gets added, someone gets mad and says it will ruin the game forever, then nothing happens and everyone moves on. But I do agree that 1.9 was the sticking point where things got more radicalized at the very least in the community due to things changing so suddenly (even though I liked the update). Also, I don't think 1.7 is "minecraft", that depends on who you ask, and you'll get as many different opinions forward and backward from the first version of alpha to the current version as you have comments below this.

[@MudakTheMultiplier]

Oh my goodness I vibe with this concept so much. I played a *lot* of Minecraft 1.5 because I did mods and 1.5 was a hard update for most mod developers (it's amazing what breaks when you change redstone). Because of this a lot of modders neglected to update to 1.6 since they had put so much work into 1.5 already. I spent a very long time on 1.5 modded, and to this day I feel weird playing newer vanilla. I keep finding little things that catch me out as thinking I've got a mod on (the fact that they literally hired a mod creator to do mobs contributes to that I'm sure). What's really odd is I don't feel weird about playing newer modded versions, just vanilla. It's almost like the fact that it's supposed to be the baseline makes me feel weird when there's change and when I'm changing things intentionally then it's fine because it's not quite the same anyway.

[@vysteriousal1]

I love the new mountain generation, it just looks so beautiful (kinda sad that flat area is quite rare)

[@YannickFilms]

What a beautiful wholesome video. I totally agree with the sad but wonderful ending, my heart will also always be with 1.8❤️

[@anon7379]

Mine with 1.2.5

[@kadengalloway4477]

My favorite version is still 1.8, but to put it in perspective. Someone just bought Minecraft today and 1.18 is the Minecraft they will grow to love and know. I don’t think it’s a Minecraft issue, I think it’s just a people thing. Always looking back to the good old days

[@JM-cu6ex]

I played Minecraft today and I’m still trying to block with my sword, seeing this video puts into perspective how long ago that was, 5 years. Doesn’t feel it. I’ve never crafted netherite anything nor fully explored the new nether, I’ve only recently got an elytra in a survival world, I still don’t understand ocean temples; never fully explored one and have never really played round with villagers. And it’s not like I haven’t been playing Minecraft, I have, I’ve just not been playing with these features, I’ve been playing Minecraft as I knew it in a game I no longer know. Today was the first time I’ve gone into these new caves, it felt, weird. It wasn’t really a shock to the system I won’t exaggerate and it still felt like Minecraft but it just wasn’t my Minecraft, like I was playing with a mod or something. It’s a feature I can no longer ignore, I can’t really play my Minecraft in this game anymore. I’ve been drifting away from Minecraft and really video games in general as of recently. It’s just kinda dawning on me how much has changed. I drink, I drive, I work, when did time start moving so fast?

[@redunted]

I 100% expected this video to be very memey, but ended up being a fantastic and informative one, absolutely outstanding!

[@darreldarrenman3334]

I played the game as a kid WAY before 1.4 and I remember jumping at everything. Every cave felt like an adventure and any bit of progress was a rush of amazing excitement. Of course like everything, the things that seem so big and crazy to us as kids become normal and unexciting. Eventually nostalgea isn't really the same. While the old days of surviving your first night and finally beating the ender dragon are memorable, you can't really relive them. I think the best thing for the game's future is to keeping making huge changes and new additions, bossfights, enemies and things to make it a more complicated game. And if people still long for simplicity, the old versions of the game is always waiting for them.

[@viniciusschadeck4992]

dude, minecraft as a build, terraria as a battle game... put both together and may we can had HYTALE, nhã, this is a bad joke, HYTALE was bought by riot, soo, they will force some kind of multiplayer and skin cashier shithole. Java version is soo good, because comunity customize it, and, even with me that play almost alone in single player with vanilla, i love the way had no shit customization or mtx on my miencraft... i hate play a game and not had any chance of put my hand in some stuff even cosmetic, because if i love one skin, but start playing after the frame to get it, no matters how hard i play or how good i'am, never will get that... soo, i guess HYTALE never will be close as good compared with minecraft java, but, combat need revamp as combat testing versions we might see some changes in combat in new updates, i hope they made a lot of weapons with different combat styles, but, not like now, dual blade daggers, small and fast swords, low sword, add smash damage, cutting damage as slash hits and kind of piercind, with each kind of armour and weapons to deal and receive better and wrost damages as runescape 1 had, amazing mechanics!

[@darreldarrenman3334]

@@viniciusschadeck4992 I would love your weapon idea personally.

[@alfonix562]

you think coming out as gay is hard? try coming out as Minecraft ver. 1.18, see how much acceptance you get from the "tolerant" left

[@TheCursedJudge]

dobermadman OWNS Minecraft boomers with FACTS and LOGIC

[@helltubejackie1086]

you think coming out as Minecraft ver. 1.18 is hard? try coming out as Minecraft ver. 1.20 and see how much acceptance you get from the "tolerant" dobermadman.

[@alfonix562]

@@helltubejackie1086 you wanna fight me? i know your ip

[@cookie.2118]

@@alfonix562 I would tell you a joke about my IP But you probably wouldn't get it. *Dies inside*

[@GumSkyloard]

You think you're oppressed? HA, try being Minecraft ver. 1.9.

[@dockboysgaming]

This was a nice thoughtful and personal video on someone's reflection of a game they lived and played on for years. Not a scathing bashful critic on a game evolving, but a philosophical wandering of it's development. Good video 🖒

[@AnymMusic]

I knew the title would be about Minecraft changing radically and indeed "ruining" it as we know it

[@rusefoxghost]

I started in 1.2.5. During the 1.8-1.12 period I was only really playing on and off every once in a while, so I was hardly following those updates. For a while after I got back into it I just had those “that was added TWO YEARS ago?” moments every so often. Now that I’m up with the times I’m actually really liking what they’ve done and I’m really excited for this update.

[@EliteInExile]

For me, I'm the type that loves to see a game grow. I remember playing long before beds, and compared to now, with so much more in the game, it's just beyond anything I could have asked for. It's the same game to me. I just interact with it differently for every update that comes out.

[@CaptainTurkoGaming]

Always been a fan of the Ship of Theseus thought experiment, and I think it applies perfectly to Minecraft's life cycle. Side note, I never realized this before, but I think the huge gap between 1.8 and 1.9 might be the biggest causes as to why Minecraft faded into obscurity for years. Thoughts?

[@lunardoesthings]

I’m defintely excited for the new caves and cliffs updates but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t at least a bit nervous/scared, I really hope that the normal/old caves are still about and that the new ones aren’t TO common. It’s like taking the small stone room and making a huge scary cavern, it sounds like it’ll be a lot harder to just mindlessly mine for hours and instead have to be on watch/guard for danger

[@luckysbackupchannel]

Your video makes a great point; the game changes drastically every 5 years. Say what you want, but Mojang's team has done a phenomenal job at refreshing the formula in a way that prevents the game from going stale. I've been playing since Alpha so I definitely have experienced the "Beta 1.7 is the best the game ever was". But I've accepted these changes and will always hold those memories closely. I don't play Minecraft often anymore now that I am an adult. But just like the smol me from years prior, I am somewhat experiencing the same feelings as playing the game for the first time every time I come back after an enormous amount of updates passed by.

[@Toksyuryel]

During that same time period when you became cemented into 1.8, I decided to jump into playing with mods and I think this is what has kept my interest in the game so strong all these years through all the changes. It's already the nature of playing with mods for the game to be radically altered, so I never feel put off by these kinds of changes to the base game. As well, it's usually the more technical changes of each update that excite me the most as they allow mods to do new more interesting things. 1.8 was the last time I ever actually played vanilla. I have played exclusively with mods ever since.

[@thatoneyoutuber777]

I. Never thought it this way. I, am a newcomer, kind of. Thats probably why. I remember the days before the Redstone update, now as just fuzzy memories, as I was just 7 or 8 years old. I got bored for a while, and around 2 years later, I came back. It was the 1.12 update that brought me back. Friends at school would talk about it a lot, plus the new update came out, I had to try it. I loaded up a new world, and everything changed. There was now new oceans, beautiful dolphins. Even a heart of the sea, which I was confused. Minecraft I as KNEW it, was gone. Now a new ship has emerged with grand upgrades. Minecraft, has changed

[@JJROSSO1666]

Honestly, if you asked me, the gap between middle game and end game needs to be increased, as well as there being more content and reason to play the game after beating the Enderdragon. And along with that, there needs to be more dynamic structures and reasons to explore the world instead of staying inside the map quater you spawn in.

[@darreldarrenman3334]

I couldn't agree more man, progression is too little and mobs become boring pushovers endgame

[@Strato_Casterrr9898]

You guys actually beat the ender dragon and call it quits? Minecraft is not an rpg remember, and survival mode is just an extension of creative. Its a sandbox, its meant to have as little intrusive features and structures as possible so that the game doesn't feel cramped and doesn't interfer with your imagination. Believe it or not, the reward for killing the ender deagon isn't the exp or the egg, its getting a chance of finding an elytra. An item allowing you to fly/glide, which is very useful for builders and for admiring YOUR work in the game.

[@Strato_Casterrr9898]

@@darreldarrenman3334 read Sakurai's thoughts on minecraft. To him, its the most interesring game out there. Its really cool reading about minecraft a developer's perspecrive. Smash developer's lerspective to be specific.

[@darreldarrenman3334]

@@Strato_Casterrr9898 I play way after the dragon, and love building big mansions, but minecraft isn't just building and creativity. It's also an adventure game with action elements, so when late game roles around and you're swatting all the mobs like flies and having 10 minute lava baths for fun it can get boring. I'm sure that Sakurai has a great opinion of his own for what he likes but for the adventure aspects and players more interested in the action side of the game there's nothing all too exciting. I'm sure future updates will fix that while still letting creative types do their thing

[@JJROSSO1666]

@@Strato_Casterrr9898 No, I play after beating the EnderDragon, it's just that most people I see start a new world after beating the dragon

[@lovestonedragon]

as someone whose played minecraft just as long, I can understand where you're coming from, your ending was very poetic. however, I feel as though I was the opposite, my friends and I would put the game down for months at a time until another update came out. Now I find myself playing more and excited with anything new that comes out (except those damn phantoms LOL). Great take btw!

[@bv_2028]

This isn't just a video, it's a whole damn poem with a meaningful ending

[@mmmmmmyes2543]

The end made me cry lmao

[@Logistiz]

I rarely comment on videos but this was actually a really, really well made video. Good, informative content & you made good points throughout. It really is personal preference when it comes to the updates. I personally believe that this will only make minecraft more enjoyable for casual players like myself and hardcore mindcraft gamers.

[@IsThatRamo]

I would say that a game like minecraft thrives on change. I have been playing Minecraft for years and on different editions. I have massive nostalgia for the game but I'm not blind to the new updates. Minecraft is a sandbox in which you can do whatever you want and that still remains. Another important thing is that there is not just a single type of player. Not all players like old versions. There are builders, speedrunners, redstone engineers who might take no interest in older editions. Minecraft updates are amazing because they tend towards all kinds of players. The truth is, games age and their mechanics age too. I've seen all of the old caves and my heart craves more excitement and adventure. I will miss the old caves (not much tho) but when I got to experience the new minecraft, it ignited the passion that I had lost for the game. My point is that not all players are the same. Some may be nostalgia-fueled while others will inevitably welcome change with open arms. The greatest thing about minecraft is that it's not restricted to a certain player's wishes and I hope that doesn't change. Sorry for the long text but I found this video very interesting and thought provoking. Good job!

[@sharktacos]

I personally think that they should make the parts closer to surface level (above and below) mostly the same, and as you go higher up or further down, then it transitions into the more extreme terrain that they're introducing, otherwise It would take away the classic mining experience, and make it not feel like I'm playing on an amplified world.

[@Dafins100]

I can appreciate Minecraft for what it was at each stage. The updates are what have kept me playing for the last several years though. I play with friends and we only ever play for a few months then stop. The updates and direction they are taking Minecraft have made the worlds we make together feel unique and more special each time.

[@matejkropacek86]

This video is really very nice and nostalgic. Remember for old days, when you were playing on 1.8, when you were exploring the world and feel some kind of unidenntificable feeling. Thank you for this video.

[@8th_green]

As someone who has been playing the game for 12 years I can tell you nothing can make me leave it and I'm all for these new updates

[@Willimann]

Im with you my good sir. Known about Minecraft for at least 7 years by now.

[@Eldritch-thing]

I've been here since about 2013 and I've been playing it for like half my life and I agree with you

[@Surfboarder4]

1.18 will be the best update ever. I don't get caught up on old versions. I don't think there's ever been an update where the game didn't get better

[@LorienWicck]

That was honestly beautiful. Personally I've just really started getting into minecraft this year, as a 22 year old. I've tried it back when I was 12, but I didn't have the bought version or a good enough pc at the time, so I never really tried it besides a few minutes on creative mode on android. While I know I'll get to enjoy the coming versions a whole bunch, I can totally respect your view on the state of the game. I can think of other games that give me somewhat similar feelings.

[@devonwhite9398]

You are lucky, this is arguably the best time to be playing for the first time! Safe travels my friend. Hope you have a blast!

[@Gam1ngGor1lla]

I first played Minecraft in 2012 when it came out for the Xbox 360. I slowly lost interest as I grew up, but recently (about a year ago) I got back into the game. I joined back during the nether update, playing with some friends who were brand new to Minecraft and were experiencing it for the first time. It was fascinating to discover things together and how different our perspectives were. They were just simply learning a new game, while I, like an old timer from a dying generation, looked on in both wonder and discomfort at the foreign changes that seemingly popped out of nowhere. Polar bears? Flying? Netherite? It felt like modded Minecraft, and I wasn't sure how I felt about this new "Vanilla" standard. I reminisced about the days when iron golems were new, when the wither was new, when ocelots were first added and they weren't even called "cats" when you tamed them. I remember old boat mechanics and the old combat. I remember old Minecraft, and I remember watching it grow, but...nothing like this. This new growth is way more game changing. And, honestly? I love it, and I think it's genuinely the only way for Minecraft to survive. After playing with all of the new features for a good long while, giving them their fair shots and really trying to appreciate them for what they are without a biased mindset...these new updates breathe so much life and fresh air into Minecraft, I can't imagine playing the game in it's older form today. I don't think all of the new additions are total hits, but that just means I opt to not really direct my time into getting them. Fireworks don't interest me, neither do rabbits or piglins or new villager trading, but that's okay. Minecraft is big enough and advanced enough now that you can play it in a lot more ways than you used to be able to, and in my opinion that's a good thing. If you want a simple play style, play simpler. If you want a complex play style, play smarter. As a veteran, Minecraft feels fresher and more exciting than ever, with new content able to hold my interest like never before. Minecraft's future is bright and I'm proud to have played it for this long.

[@CallMeVidd]

“So let’s say you have a ship” Yeah I’ve seen WandaVision

[@tjarktv9153]

Haha same thought here

[@crowbirdryuell]

I've been waiting for Doctor Strange to make a cameo at the end of the episode only to know that Marvel cancel him because they are afraid of being canceled for mansplanning

[@itsthegr8matt]

First thing that came to my mind: "This guy saw WandaVision..."

[@TheCursedJudge]

@@itsthegr8matt I've actually never seen WandaVision, the only Marvel anything I've really watched was Infinity War

[@nastystudios6420]

@@TheCursedJudge how does it feel to be a sinner

[@exekiel590]

This is like evolution, like how ancient people died because they didn't manage to adapt to the change that is currently ongoing on their environment

[@Session1052]

I think I understand your message completely, and I just want to say, as someone who has played since 1.5.. you are a true Minecraft player, no matter what anyone says, and I completely get where you're coming from. I truly connected to this entire video, I will continue to play this game as it changes into the sunset, as my nature itself is the change, and adapt I function well with Minecraft changing around me, unlike other people I don't need this update to get back into the game, because I have always continued to play... but whether it be people that still play beta 1.7, play in 1.8, or runners who play in 1.14, or even the people who after 1.18 comes out will play in 1.16 or 17... all of them, every single one of them are true players of Minecraft, just as much as people who continue to play the current version. I am someone, please get to drift away, yet to become distant, but maybe one day my day will come... maybe one day I'll go back to 1.7.10... because I love moving with the game, I love playing all of the new releases, no matter how long they take, I believe the new combat is far superior to the old combat, and I can't wait for the next combat update!! but 1.7.10.... that's my version, even though it's not the version I started playing, it's the version that has a place in my heart above the rest... BUT YOOOO CAN'T WAIT FOR THE WARDEN BROOOOOO!!! IM SO HYPED LET'S GET ON THAT NEW GENERATION BOOIIIII!!!! 😂

[@Firesgone]

I was reading aloud and when I got to that last hype part I lost my composure! xD

[@Session1052]

@@Firesgone LOL yes!

[@pinkiecale]

The "Bountiful update" was released on my 12th birthday I didn't play Minecraft yet but I watched youtubers play it and I LOVED it!

[@TamierTheRocker]

Well written video. I love how you used that ship example and expressed your opinion without wanting to affect the viewer's opinion. also the ending, wow. I felt it. even tho Im only playing since 1.8

[@jerichode]

This is such an interesting video, I've been thinking about this very thing but I couldn't but it into words

[@runnersshade6612]

Minecraft vet here, and I feel this. I've had minecraft since beta 1.9, not long before release. I wasn't able to do much besides solo, so I truly say I started minecraft on Xbox 360. When update aquatic hit consoles, that felt like such a big change for me. By the time 2015 rolled around, I had to play less and less due to Uni. Now, I come back and I find myself astounded by all the changes that came out and are coming out. The ship of theseus still floats, regardless of if I recognize it as I once had, or if it's the same ship it once was. For that, I am grateful

[@eric_enter9141]

I too like and grew up with 1.8 I also spent alot of my time mining away in the caves, and that feeling will never be the same. I think that the caves and clifs update was a good update, but it will be hard to get used to the new cave generation. But for me the clifs part of caves and clifs is what is ruening minecraft for me. The old terain was way easier to navigate and explore. Now there are just mountains and deep holes everywhere /:

[@killiantallon8086]

Originally i thought netherite was a massive change that 'felt too modded" and it would "completely ruin the flow of the game" but after time passed i got very used to it, growing to love the change. Also, loved the video, and ill probably eventually end up finding an update that i can call home, i think it might be 1.12 - 1.14, 1.13 was my first major update but i think ill grow nostalgic for that period of the game.