1/5 RC Sprint Car - drivetrain completed! Hybrid system reveal

This part has it all: Great ideas, failures and a happy ending!
The car now is powered by a Toyan L400 and TP Power 4070 brushless motor.
You see the transmission build, drivetrain and even some spinning wheels.
I can not wait to fire the Nitro engine and really start rippinˋ...
Thanks for watching !
The Toyan engine can be found here:
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Toyan FS-L400 Engine: bit.ly/3oWaRua

[@hipinretku]

This channel is so underrated. But as usual, content is high quality. Can't wait to see this car go full throttle 👍

[@timsane]

Thank you so much!

[@Missed_Apex_GT]

We here in England have long admired German engineering...it’s nice that you also included the mistakes too...gives a nice human touch to the whole project 🇬🇧❤️👍

[@toolbaggers]

NASA was essentially German engineering since 1945. 📎

[@timsane]

Thank you very much! I make many mistakes or build stuff that destroys itself but I learn from it. At least in my eyes, my projects get better regarding quality and details. I learned a lot from the Willys and now this Sprint Car. Can not wait to put all that into the next project 🚀 thanks for your support

[@steveclough6794]

@@toolbaggers the Germans are great at engineering however not so good at electronics which is kinda why all their modern-day BMW cars break down on a whim lol

[@madworkzer]

Especially around 1940 era i would say, right? :)

[@Missed_Apex_GT]

@@madworkzer oh yes ;)

[@spooge33]

I understand the folks that are anxious to see this thing rip, but witnessing the build, and the demonstration of Tim's skills, is well worth the wait.

[@timsane]

Thank you so much! It needs some patience - which I usually do not have. But I will try to make it right the first time. Sadly I am a perfectionist which makes life complicated sometimes...

[@spooge33]

@@timsane If I may rearrange your words. It is not sad that you are a perfectionist. The fact that it sometimes makes life complicated? Ok. But, it is obvious that you do not work from a blueprint. You are not recreating someone else's idea. In building construction it is called "fastrack". Design as you build. Make it up as you go along. Tim, if you settle for, good enough? You would not serve your fans, or yourself. Cheers!!!!

[@NBC_NCO]

My wife wouldn't know I existed if I had all those cool tools.

[@markhufnagel2744]

WOW that is a true hybrid that will kick ass on the track !!!

[@timsane]

Hopefully!

[@donpalmera]

This beats the shit out of commercial big scale RC cars out there. I wish I had the money/space to get the CNC machinery needed to build something like this.

[@timsane]

Thank you!

[@c103110a]

11:14 we used to use large, hydraulic broaching machines with 3 meter long broaches to cut dovetail slots in discs for gas turbine engines. Those broaching machines were monsters. I can smell them to this day !

[@timsane]

That sounds fantastic! I love machining of all kinds.... great to have you onboard

[@malakiblunt]

"The man who never made a mistake never made anything "- we've all been there , and its often the most 'obvious ' mistakes are the easist to make

[@timsane]

Great words! Absolutely right. Thanks for watching

[@grumpyone5963]

We’ve all cut something so precisely 100mm short once or twice!

[@RCTanksTrucks247]

Looks amazing brother. Incredible engineering. All I need now is some of those awesome tools in my garage, hahaha!

[@timsane]

Thank you very much ! I am collecting tools and gadgets for a long time now... nothing more satisfying as when you come to a special task and boooom you have the perfect tool for the job. Sadly the tool wishlist never ends lol

[@grumpyone5963]

I’ll fight you for them! 🤨

[@craigmacewan2037]

Man your a genius!!! Wish I had the skills you have and the toys (tools) to builds like you do!! Great job sir!! Thanks for sharing

[@michaeljones2960]

I've been waiting for the day to see you enjoying this Sprint car. Great build, can't wait to see it finished Tim

[@timsane]

Thanks Michael, it will be a blast!

[@keithkamps77]

Outta control, I love watching you design and making your parts, so educational.

[@timsane]

Thank you Keith!

[@rc-shedshakedown3191]

Amazing work as always. The thoughts that go into the quality and strenght really make the difference.

[@castekracing]

That is Timsane!! Wow so much attention to detail and amazing engineering on this build

[@lucasweaver2918]

Amazing job , can't wait to see how both motors will work together.👍

[@RCRoads]

Your ability to build such a complex and awesome looking sprint car is beyond amazing. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@tanyav7888]

It is an awesome experience when a plan comes to fruition!

[@timsane]

😎

[@nickgilbert672]

SO RAD !!!! that "extra layer " definitely gonna add some torque 🤟🤟

[@timsane]

That was the plan! I do not own any underpowered vehicle... and that wont change in the future 😁✌🏻Thanks for watching

[@DustyFingersRC]

This was an interesting watch. Thanks for sharing it.

[@richardsalinetrojr1957]

Your builds are always badass.not only badass but completely unique being designed and hand built by you which imo just makes your builds even more badass.love seeing people that have a true passion for their hobbies.know being that I love rc vehicles id be doing the same thing if I had 1,the funds to do this kind of work and 2, the access to tools like yours along with the expertise to use them.lol.cant wait to see it all come together because so far its looks great.👍

[@petercasper224]

Another amazing installment to this build. I would not sweat the slight over looking in measurements, that's part of the r an d process. You are alot like me, get it right the first time but it does not always work out that way. The second version always looks and functions better than the first! Fabulous content as always Tim.

[@timsane]

Thank you very mich Peter! Glad to have nice viewers like you!

[@madmaxximus1234]

Wicked build. Cranking that groove into the gear,,, that was cool👍👍

[@timsane]

Thanks!

[@mikesrcgarage]

Amazing Tim! Nice job working through the complications, a master machinist! Please do a proper run video of this epic creation, it's beautiful! Thank you for sharing this masterpiece of an RC with us all! 👍

[@timsane]

Hey Mike! Thanks a lot. Yeah I can not wait either but I need to do this in smaller steps. Electric was an easy way to check suspension, steering etc. Now I work on smaller issues and then start the Nitro engine. Once that runs perfect I will combine both systems and will burn the hell out of the rear tires! Ordered an extra set of wheels already....

[@mikesrcgarage]

@@timsane Heck yeah Tim. Sounds like a plan, keep at it! The hybrid was a must to make that beauty shine! Sprint cars have close to a 1:1 power to weight ratio, that nitro engine even as cool as it is just doesn't pack the HP it needs alone! Awesome bro!

[@martyncox7926]

Fair play mate what you do is on another level your attention to detail is outstanding I'm well and truly baffled by your absolutely amazing talent. Wish I had the money to have you actually make me rc toy's please what ever do keep your brilliant content coming. Your a truly amazing craftsmen.

[@MllrtimeOnTheTube]

Excellent Work!!

[@lloydroth9974]

This thing is going to be so sweet well it is already sweet. Thanks again hope you’re well

[@timsane]

Thanks!

[@MrNotStock]

So beautiful :) Learning so much from you, very inspirational!

[@timsane]

Thanks !

[@jim9310]

Awesome job! Love your channel. That car is siiiiiiick!!!

[@timsane]

Thank you

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

What a awesome engineering build brother! Good idea on the brushless addition!

[@timsane]

Thanks a lot!

[@northdakoda]

Loving this build!

[@tomjohns8498]

To watch such a build from idea to birth including the mishaps gives us all hope that maybe we can put our ideas into practice 😀 👍

[@timsane]

Just start a project, you will always learn, have fun and improve! Thanks for watching

[@arnoldmcqueary5503]

You give me inspiration in every video to build my own version of this, but in 1/10 scale!!! Thank you so much!!

[@timsane]

Glad to hear that, thank you!

[@arnoldmcqueary5503]

@@timsane I really appreciate all the videos! Please keep it up!!

[@NvTwist]

Ahhh I like seeing the mistakes & the final solution…. I learn much more that way.

[@earthisacube_lul]

respekt an die geile arbeit die du geleistet hast

[@MrAmorti]

So, you're building a tiny Prius? Tolle Arbeit Junge, weiter so!

[@SATORI0320]

Neat.. I've never seen a ratchet type rivnot setter... That tiny broach set was pretty nifty as well

[@ianinnes5923]

Wow this build is amazing!

[@timsane]

Thank you!

[@richardseabourne9545]

Loving your work sir 👍😎

[@timsane]

Thank you!

[@adriealting7360]

Perfekte RC Modelbouwer. NICE.

[@stevendavis3506]

Another epic instalment. 👍🏻

[@timsane]

Thanks

[@fabricationnation8052]

Your threadsert tool is pretty awesome....I have 1 but its completely different to operate

[@dont_bush_no_crush_rc4973]

классное виде. Удивительно какие чудеса можно создавать в такой мастерской, имея все необходимые станки. Лайк однозначно.

[@timsane]

thank you 😁

[@fredericlaurent4120]

woah carrement hybride. enfin quelqu'un qui en fait quelque chose de ses mini 4 cylindres

[@pav9978]

Danke, am ende hab ich pausieren müssen und habe in meinen anderen tabs laure und anne gesucht. Irgendwann bin ich drauf gekommen das es bei dir spielt, der kaffee braucht wohl noch ein wenig ^^

[@fra5724]

it's amazing mate, those wheels are incredible tho!!

[@timsane]

Thank you! The rear wheels took about 8 hours of machining....

[@philkennedy342]

Thats nice looks the part 👍👍👍

[@Terry_Fritz]

Those burrs on the metal are bloody sharp.

[@timsane]

I learned the hard way.... oh, wait.... I will never learn as this happens to me again and again.... Thanks for watching

[@DIYwithBatteries]

You are freaking Genius Dude 😎👍

[@Ageblock85]

Sehr cool bin mal gespannt wie es komplett fertig aussieht

[@muzkat101]

I brought this idea up a few years ago; about how to integrate a electric motor to my existing gas power driven car. I have a 1987 Porsche 944, with a 2.5L 4-cyl/8-valve motor that only produces about 148HP total, but only (roughly) 128 at the wheel. However, instead of upgrading the motor to a larger block; like an 3.0L 16-valve, or better an LS2, I thought of using an electric motor tied to the drive shaft to assist in acceleration. I also thought of adding a electric flywheel to do the same. However, the gas motor will do most of the power, the electric motor is only used as a power assist.

[@TheImtoomuch]

That’s amazing

[@206sea]

Awesome build man. Wish I had the drive to do something so large. One suggestion, never use a drill chuck for anything that puts side load. You're not only damaging the chuck, but creating and showing bad habits.

[@bobbyboone161]

It would be cool to see a three speed shifter gear box but very nice work ...

[@timsane]

I would love that too, but that would add weight, needs space and it will fail due to the engine power (wait until it gets 20psi of boost 😉) So I decided against it. The brushless motor helps to get the car off the line FAST and then the nitro will start screaming. Thank you for watching and your comment!

[@Proud-pop]

I love these larger size RCs. Especially the gasoline-powered ones.

[@erwing.3902]

Mixing combustion and brushless is like "our modern hybrid cars" and thus downsizing stuff.

[@plueschAMAZONE]

Super, dann muss ich nicht dumm sterben. Ich hab mich die ganze Zeit gefragt, was du mit dem dritten Ritzel anfängst :D Und zu den Fehlversuchen, sei einfach froh, dass Du es weghaust und gut, und nicht noch eine ewige Facharbeit zu allem verfassen musstest, bevor Du in der Fertigung merkst, dass es verkackt ist x'D

[@timsane]

Da hast du recht, das ist ein echter Vorteil. Gottseidank muss ich auch niemandem Rechenschaft ablegen. So verbrenne ich höchstens Zeit, lerne aber daraus.

[@BenandUTube2012]

Great Work and Fine Looking Buggy . I am Hoping that Beautiful 4 Cylinder motor is not just for show ? I would like to see and hear it run . Dumb American Me , I thought that was what the Build was all about . I can see the use for Battery and Fuel drive Together , but I like my NITRO To stand Tall and Alone . I am old fashion that way . As long as you enjoy what you do and have some FUN You never need call it WORK ! Be safe and stay HEALTHY . BEN V.

[@timsane]

Hey! Of course it is about the Toyan Nitro engine - I only want to make sure we have plenty of power (especially from the line). I need to check both systems individually - and the electric one is better to begin with. I found issues within the suspension I would have not found with the noise and smoke of the Toyan motor. Thanks for watching

[@Matty.Hill_87]

After seeing another channel use this engine standard in a 1/10th scale car I don't think there's any worry of it not being powerful enough in this

[@martin09091989]

Bin mal gespannt wie das Ding mit dem Nitro Motor geht! Ich glaub der E-Motor alleine ist schon ausreichend für alles außerhalb gesperrter Strecken. Du brauchst dann noch nen echten Rundkurs wenn die Flügel drann sind, um das Teil aus zu fahren! 😆

[@timsane]

Hallo Martin, ich glaube auch das wird später „interessant“ wenn Nitro und brushless zusammen arbeiten.... ich suche gerade eine schöne grosse ovale Aschenbahn hier in der Nähe. Das kommt den echten Strecken am nächsten! Gruss

[@TheMiniCar]

LOVE THIS!!

[@rengankrishnaiyer6912]

what rearend are you using ?

[@calvinwright1816]

Amazing!

[@timsane]

Thanks

[@ianmangham4570]

AMAZING

[@billymanilli]

It's the new "electric supercharger"... lol but this "style" actually works!! AWESOME

[@jesusisalive3227]

What brand are those broaching tools?

[@MariusLorenz]

Timsaaaane!

[@adamwindle2572]

If you don't mind me asking buddy, where did you buy the keyway broaches ?

[@yeshid900]

What cnc machine you use?

[@occrc3333]

did you have any concerns about the motor over spinning the engine or did you just choose a low voltage?

[@cliffcampbell8827]

Those wheels are magnificent, where did you get them? Custom order or is there a place that makes oversized RC stuff? The only wheels I can find for my big project RC are cart or wheel barrow wheels.

[@BIGGBULLxxx]

Show us some long distance speed runs please. 👍👍

[@timsane]

I will ! I need to dial im the car first. Nitro engine, suspension etc. needs to be spot on. I do have to much blood, sweat and tears in this to destroy it due to too much speed with unsafe suspension... Thanks for watching

[@jacekrenkas]

Hi, nice video :) Can you give a link or anything for this shaft key grooving tool???

[@rodneyeamon9876]

What.. rear end Are you using

[@fightuntil996]

Awesome

[@timsane]

Thank you

[@BlackMetalRC85]

Hi, mit wieviel Volt willst du den BL Motor laufen lassen? Der dreht ja weit über das doppelte wie der Nitro Motor.

[@timsane]

Das ist richtig. Ich starte mit nur 4S. Aber zusätzlich sind Nitro Motor und der brushless Antrieb deutlich unterschiedlich untersetzt. Danke fürs Zuschauen

[@martyncox7926]

Where did he get that brushless motor pretty sure there's a train some in the EU missing on of motors what this guy does a epically epic on epically epic scale jeez.

[@MrKdr500]

nice work, you need to invest in a TIG welder....more precise and much stronger welds.

[@rcbodyshopfr]

Hybrid RC car are rather rare, this going to be more and more interesting. As real hybrid cars problem is the weight added that often need more energy than fuel or electro engine only. 😉

[@timsane]

Surprisingly the car is not too heavy. I will reveal the weight later but let me say that power to weight is great on this build.

[@rcbodyshopfr]

@@timsane I am sure power is enough, your e motor is big 😀

[@nitrodon7184]

Wiso hab ich bei den Zoom an der Drehbank immer das Gefühl, dass bald was übelst schief geht? 😅 tolles Video🤘🏻

[@timsane]

Blut gibt klicks, das weis jeder 😄Danke fürs anklicken!

[@JFWGarage]

Hey mate, big fan of you’re work. Are you still making videos ? We understand that you work and have a family and other things to do in life just wanted to see what’s the go and how you been? 🇦🇺👌🏼

[@speckledjim_]

Power!!!

[@andylewis7360]

Great work Tim! Not sure how you’ll match engine and motor speeds, though. That poor clutch!! ;-D

[@timsane]

Hopefully my plan will work out... it will be a hard balance between those two systems. We will find out shortly.... Thanks for watching

[@ChrisS-oo6fl]

You got a link to ratchet style that rivet nut tool?

[@timsane]

Unfortunately not... but I filmed the manual showing the exact part number on the cover. I am sure you can find it on google. There are also cheaper alternatives but I do not know if they work equally as good. Thanks for watching

[@markwachsman1166]

dude your work is amazing, I'm pretty sure you should be able to get a remote mike so I can hear you

[@timsane]

sadly i do have one but forgot the cable.... damn... sorry

[@diegobaeza6821]

Where u get the wheels bruh

[@Ev0ltion]

13:16 get a welding mask!

[@enlightendbel]

How much ps/hp does a car like that actually need? That Toyan engine, without modification does 3ps I think.

[@makepartsUSA]

really nice work Tim. i appreciate the craftsmanship. can you share how you have the nitro and electric drives controlled and working together? how did it do on only nitro?

[@timsane]

The nitro motor did not run inside the car yet, since I am working on fuel system and oil pump controls. Hopefully this weekend! Can not wait either... but it is a lot of work....

[@jayaneyon9316]

Why is the engine so high up

[@Redhairrdontcare]

All that work on the gas motor but it's not running yet. It needs to run :o

[@timsane]

Of course! But i need to test both systems individually. I am working day an night on the Nitro system Hopefully this weekend will be the first big nitro run. Thanks for watching

[@klausbrinck2137]

I came hier to find out something about the clutch, but nothing to find... Where can I find specs about this clutch ??? thank you !!!

[@timsane]

Custom everything.... clutch shoes and drum are from a Baja. Flywheel is my own billet version

[@richardblom9211]

Even for a some small welds luke that you should have a welding shield. A lifetime if little thing like that will get you later

[@timsane]

You are sooo right 😞 Thanks for watching

[@davidholyoake7025]

Hi, I have just purchased the Toyan FS - L400 engine kit. I have downloaded the full build manual and before starting assembly I want to ensure that I have all the necessary tools for building it as good as possible. I am a professional engineer and recognise the importance of using the correct tools. Having read through the build manual I cannot find any information on what the torque settings are for the more critical bolts. ie. Head bolts, Conrod caps etc. Is it possible to find out the torque settings of these various fasteners? I would then be able to make sure I have a suitable small torque wrench that is accurate enough and within the range for use on this engine. Also, I have looked at ‘Stirling Kits’ online catalogue to try and find a suitable chassis to fit the engine to. I can only find one - and it looks very ugly and basic, more like a lorry chassis! I was looking for something a lot more exciting, more like the type used on a Drifter. Can anyone recommend a suitable purpose made chassis, or maybe one than can be modified relatively easily so that this engine will fit.

[@rtalbot87]

Hi Tim. I get the 4 stroke driving through a clutch. I don't get the electric motor being synchronised with it. Direct drive motor and indirect drive four stroke ? Please clarify. Another GREAT episode. Thanks again

[@timsane]

Hey, what seems to be complicated is very easy to do: Brushless system is programmed to a specific setting ( by the way I am running a soft setting here... it will be much crazier later) then the nitro engine gets dialed in with extra servos and linkage. When I let of the throttle the nitro rpm drops, clutch disengages and only the motor will be spun further. Then I can even use the motor to brake the rear axle independently from the (hydraulic disc brake) front axle. I will show how it works in another episode. Thank you for watching and being part of our small community.

[@rtalbot87]

@@timsane Wow. Thanks. Simple for you; but not for many of your viewers; or am I the only one couldn't figure it out.

[@Nickwillfixit]

Glad to see I am not the only one who messes up and spends time re-doing things due to a bad calculation. I have to ask why an electric motor along with the internal combustion engine do you think the engine is not powerful enough on its own, at first I thought it was going to be for reverse motion. What RPM does the 5th scale clutch bite, as you can get many different springs from five thousand and nine thousand five hundred RPM there are a few out there which are adjustable along with different materials for the clutch pads, I have tried the MIP/MOD five shoe and the Turtle Racing, FID and Area RC clutch's and have just found a three shoe one which I am hoping will combat my problem of excessive wear due to running big CC engines in my 5th scale offroad trucks and buggies from 32cc through to 50cc and still hunting the perfect clutch set up, looking forward to seeing more of this build and have just subscribed and will be watching your back catalogue of builds to watch while waiting for parts to arrive from my overworked courier service.

[@timsane]

Hey Nick, first of all I am concerned that the nitro engine might be to weak for this big car. Therefore I added the hidden „assistance“. Second, I installed 8k springs because the engine idles at about 5.5k and redlines at about 13k. At least in theory 8k feels like a good starting point. But I think i will find out shortly..... Thanks for subscribing, welcome onboard!

[@fabricationnation8052]

Don't worry.....mistakes are what make us better!

[@Built2Drive]

Hi, eins vorab... Echt klasse Arbeit👌 Mich würde noch interessieren woher du die Felgen und Reifen für dein Projekt her hast. Wäre klasse, wenn du das mal angeben könntest. Gruss Valera

[@timsane]

Hey Valera, darüber mache ich mal eine eigene Folge. Die hinteren, mehrteiligen Felgen habe ich selber gebaut. Die vorderen kommen aus einem HPI Baja. Reifen sind Louise Rocket.

[@Timberwolf35546]

Can you recommend a motor that is submersible that I could use for a kayak project. Total out of water weight will be less than 350lb.

[@timsane]

That is difficult since i have no idea what your goal is: 4mph? 30? How much do you want to spend on batteries? This project can be 200 or 2000 USD 😱

[@Timberwolf35546]

@@timsane I'd say 10mph would be plenty fast enough for up to 5min bursts, but a 5mph sustained for up to 45min of distance travel is for sure needed. As far as budget I'd probably spend up to 1k usd for motors and electronics. Can diameter Can be as small as 2.5in. Hopefully this is enough info. Sorry for being so vague initially.

[@timsane]

Hey Joseph, no problem. Take a look into the Turnigy SK8 series motors. They are low kv, powerfull and very affordable. I can imagine two of them will work beyond your expectations and do not need a geardrive or transmission. Thanks for watching

[@CMBProjects]

Like before watching!! Edit: looks very nice!! Are the brushless motor and the toyan engine going to work always at the same time?

[@timsane]

Yes they will when I apply throttle. during braking the Toyan will idle, disc brakes will grab in the front while the brushless brakes the rear wheels.

[@CMBProjects]

@@timsane nice!! It es very interesting 😉👍

[@L3gendkill4]

Hey Tim, machst du noch etwas zur DIY Flowbench?

[@timsane]

Aber klar! Ich kann nur nicht alles zeitgleich angehen... 😋