$1 bolt kills another RAM

[@duggydo]

If anything ever deserved to be a class action lawsuit, this is it. What a horrible design. Cummins and RAM could have easily fixed all these with less $ than it will ultimately end up costing them in reputation and long term dollars.

[@jimcatanzaro7808]

You mean Dodge

[@jdsmith556]

We’re gonna have to hang on. The demon 170 guys are super pissed and want their turn at the whole lawsuit thing first.

[@murrkem8239]

Theyre too occupied paying a $2bil uncle same ticket.

[@bankspower]

RAM was spun off into its own business entity in 2009.

[@Anne_Frank00]

Why are people so sue happy?

[@gavnonadoroge3092]

lets give thanks to ram for keeping generations of mechanics employed

[@williamjones4483]

Not a Ram issue. Cummins designed and manufactured the engine.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Stellantis

[@sepg5084]

​@@shadowopsairman1583 Stellantis doesn't own Cummins tho, and this is a Cummins engine

[@177SCmaro]

Basic engine engineering - do not put things in the intake that can loosen up or break off and be drawn into the engine, esp metal things. If you absolutely have to be DAMN sure it can't loosen up over time.

[@tacomas9602]

Or for fucks sake at least put it EXTERNALLY on the pipe somehow. They make shit so back ass

[@Dexter_Solid]

really? maybe go look where all the MAF sensors are placed in EVERY ENGINE EVER...jesus, not to mention maybe google what a throttle valve looks like, and delete your stupid comment after.

[@177SCmaro]

@@Dexter_Solid "Every engine ever" is not having engine failures caused by map sensors or throttle plates coming apart and getting sucked into the cylinders. Evidently you didn't read the last sentence of my comment so I repeat, "If you absolutely have to (put things in your intake) be DAMN sure it can't loosen up over time." What is "stupid" here is you're jumping into this without thinking or paying attention to details, just a knee jerk, emotional response.

[@salt-emoji]

I'm not even an engineer or mechanic and that's obvious..... Wish I was getting paid my ignorance

[@crazeguy26]

that reminds me of the Nissan QR25DE in the sentra.

[@geoffthomas8032]

Great video Brad, thanks again for doing my truck! The biggest piece of mind ever, not to mention the performance gains!!!

[@bankspower]

Happy to help! We're glad you're enjoying the Monster-Ram.

[@dougbourdo2589]

Huge Kudos to Gale Banks for the SO many improvements he and his team continue to develop for the truck driving public.

[@brucecochran8297]

A family member just replaced his stock grid heater with the Banks System. The nut fell off with a slight tug. No damage but he dodged the bullet big time. Advised he has more power now and is quite pleased with the outcome.

[@superfastjeffoftheworld5817]

This Banks monster ram does not increase power. It's an insurance policy

[@TheDavidlloydjones]

I'm reminded that Henry Ford had his people check the junk yards for what had gone wrong with old Fords: he wanted all the parts to fail equally and not to have any single part or small group to be worse than the rest.

[@ChasOnErie]

Yup in the 70s when I was at WEATHERHEAD designing all the brake system for Ford … we had an ongoing program to gather old brake parts from fords around the country to analyze for failure !!! .

[@Charlie-Oooooo]

For sure. Part failures are an important part of the system life cycle. Failure analysis is a critical step in designing systems that last. Then of course there's "engineered failure" analysis, as you mentioned, which tries to make sure that no single part is failing much sooner than the others. Or something like that. Fun stuff.👍

[@mwaynem]

It's amazing that Cummins makes 2 of the best diesel pickup engines, and both of them can and have been destroyed by the failure of a single small bolt.

[@MrSGL21]

"the best"

[@imchris5000]

honestly though we dont see much of them in the usa mercedes diesel is unkillable its what runs africa

[@bradgriffith4231]

The Cummins isn't all that GR8. They started having major problems when they started selling the 24 valve engine, & the worst came with the 24 valve common rail engine. There's a small shop out in the country near Muskogee, OK that has a yard full of Rams & rebuilds 5 or so per week.

[@franciscogomez2565]

Welll yes but that is any engine that would be destroyed by a “small bolt”

[@JxH]

People pay extra, and for their money they get a potentially very expensive problem.

[@colliswilliams8992]

When a class action lawsuit is cheaper than a recall

[@justanamerican9024]

Prime example of, "For want of a nail, the shoe was lost".

[@normanmallory2055]

Geeez that’s not good , a 2017 and it has failure like that , I would not be very happy if that were mine ! You did great explaining this problem !

[@ColeSpolaric]

I will keep saying it, this needs to be recalled. Maybe they should just go to Banks for the fix

[@whiskeyactual.]

Not quite sure how it would work. I think the problem is that it's a Cummins issue. So Cummins would have to reimburse Ram for a recall on behalf of their product - given the fact that Cummins doesn't have dealerships with service departments.

[@javanbybee4822]

@@whiskeyactual.that’s not 100% true, they dont really have dealerships but they do have distributors and maintenance shops

[@robertbutler8004]

agreed!!

[@akulkis]

​@@whiskeyactual. As far as the customer is concerned, the automobile company is responsible for the repairs and recall costs. It's unreasonable to expect that if, say, a dash board component malfunctions, the car owner should have to track down the supplier. Additionally, the Universal Commercial Code puts the duty of providing to the consumer a product that meets fitness for purpose and other standards, because the manufacturer is supposed to be an expert regarding their products. The engine supplier doesn't have to meet that same duty because their customers (the truck manufacturer) is assumed to have similar expertise. But they can claim damages from the engine manufacturer over warranty and recall work costs.

[@Michael-uc2pn]

Usually class action settlement include some verbiage that allows people to submit documentation to the manufacturer to reimburse them for the cost of independent repairs prior to the settlement. I'm sure they'd try to say it didnt qualify, but it would be funny to see if anyone could get their banks part paid for as part of a "repair".

[@coreymerritt7742]

This justifies me keeping my 2003 dodge Cummins I live in Vancouver bc during the winter the grid heater cycles quite often on warmup if I was to purchase a newer truck I would most definitely do a monster ram thanks

[@bankspower]

The 5.9L is bulletproof. Don't ever sell it.

[@Badunit11]

Free fix if it the bolt is still tight: Disconnect the grid heater by disconnecting the heater relay from the battery. Mine starts and run just fine down to single digits Fahrenheit. Some people say it is fine below 0 Fahrenheit but I can't verify that. Maybe some day when mine needs to be taken apart to clean soot off the grid (another problem it has), I'll eliminate it altogether.

[@davezoom2682]

Yep they should start, in Europe they do not fit a intake heater at all .

[@KoryBrooks]

The last one I did ended up arc welding itself to the strip of metal to the heating element and did not fall into the engine. How lucky.

[@pyrostwistedride4821]

I am curious on the mileage on these trucks, and age of these units. Because the way the internet and KZbin makes it sounds there shouldnt be very many used 6.7s at the dealerships.

[@mccarterjg]

It's a Dodge tsb for 10-15 ish in particular the dodge air heater solenoid was not to Cummins spec and would hang up causing the intake grid insulator to melt, usually in those years you'll also get the air heater performance code... All years so have some vulnerability to normal wear and tear on that insulator or the nut backing off the stud causing a loose connection and to melt the nut off but less common.

[@rafmatt1607]

​@@mccarterjgfascinating, I've worked n many 6.7 isb engines on straight trucks and never had this issue.

[@Itsa_Mea]

​@@mccarterjg the solenoid is a seperate recall issue. Not related to this failure.

[@mccarterjg]

@@rafmatt1607 yep, without the dodge solenoid failure causing it to overheat it's very uncommon, but read the next guys comment and it seems it's unrelated 🤣. At work of about 50 trucks in my area, 3 have failed to engine damage and about 15 failed the wiggle test and were replaced with the solenoid and then a handful got just new heaters before the other mechanics forgot about them. My buddy at Penske on their isb non dodge trucks hasn't came across one grid failure or heater performance code, so yeah I'm with you on your observation

[@magmomwise]

Very good information for Cummins engine owners. From my experience working on diesel engines the grid heater and glow plug circuits can draw as much as 200 amps of current when activated. This causes the insulators to melt and then the bolt melts and falls into the engine.

[@jdaniel11405822]

I installed this upgrade to my 2018 2500 and I'm so glad I did. The bolt hadn't broken off yet but it was on its way. I was curious how the coil for the cold air heater would do and I haven't been disappointed yet.

[@groyper6567]

Not only is it effective, it genuinely has a great looking design.. it truly pops

[@Guns_N_Gears]

How about the coolant hose failure that Dodge fails to admit, AND an ASE "Mechanic" that "zip-tied" the hose together. The dealer then later charged my neighbor $2800 to put 2 ties on!!! Way to go Little Chicago WI Dodge!!!!!👍👍

[@johnirwin1837]

What year and has anyone else ever work on it? Diesel or gas, truck or other vehicle?

[@Guns_N_Gears]

@@johnirwin1837 same shit , and NO! Cummins/Ram

[@somedrunkdude5728]

Didn't Dodge the bullet.

[@2down4up]

To be clear I love me some Gale Banks and I have no doubt that the monster ram fixes this issue. However I can’t help but feel like you’re trading a potential broken bolt for a potential broken heater coil. Is there any sort of testing or verification proving that the coil on the monster ram won’t break apart and cause the same issue? Or is there a recommended replacement interval?

[@bankspower]

Love your YT handle.. 2 down, 4 up. Although we don't advertise this fact, the coil heater style that we use in the Monster-Ram system was used in Duramax engines for years. It's a very stout design. One of the reasons we chose this design is if the heater solenoid were to stay on and the coil were to melt, the coil acts like a filament in an incandescent lightbulb. One end of it melts and the rest just hangs there. But let's say that the coil wiggled itself loose and fell into the manifold. It's far too large to fit through the intake valve. If the coil were to fail, you'd get a check engine light and simply unscrew the coil heater to inspect it. We rigorously tested the coils, leaving them energized for seven days straight. None failed.

[@2down4up]

@@bankspower Awesome thanks for the knowledge!

[@anthonyurban2589]

this is probably installed in all ram diesel trucks but the issue would seem to be more of a cold weather failure where you would actually activate the heater. is it on the 2013 cummings engine?

[@SIMPLEHECHO]

Does the same issue exist with the 5.9L? Watching freaked me out. I have a 2006 Ram 3500

[@PhillyDee215]

These manufacturers have to know these failures b4 they put these vehicles into production. Like I don't get it, all manufacturers have some sort of failure that clearly could've been found b4 production. This is how they further dig into your pockets after your initial buy. Great fix and solution Banks🤟

[@SteveBennet500]

of course they know about this, but its cheaper for them to be sued by a certain amount of people than recall every single truck.

[@PhillyDee215]

@@SteveBennet500 ....😏

[@SharkJumper88]

Their goal is to make money, not make great vehicles. That part is up to the owner.

[@cujoedaman]

@@SteveBennet500Very true. The Chevy 2.0 Ecotech engine from the early to mid 2000's had an excessive failure rate due to them using a cheap plastic guide rail for the timing chain. It would be too many to recall, so they never did because they used that engine in everything around the mid 2000's. My mom's Malibu is due for getting this serviced, gonna cost about $1200. Some cars had the rail failing at like 50k miles. I saw one post on a forum that his Malibu only had 30k+ miles and he had to take it in, Chevy would not honor a warranty repair.

[@Ctb1998]

New cars are only built to survive the warranty after that they do not care what happens unless it’s a safety recall

[@arthouston7361]

Makes me glad I rolled my snap on box out the door in 2000.

[@rdmgwinn]

Thanks for the info. I have a 2004 common rail 5.9 in a Neumar Motorhome. Slightly different then in the RAM pickup. Grid heater looks different but similar. Everything seems tight (didn't pull all that hard). Has 95K miles on it. Unit in Near new condition. I'm old enough to know it will be going strong when I'm long gone. Can't afford a major engine problem like this. Does this issue affect my engine??? Thank You

[@williamjones4483]

Retired truck driver here. This is why Cummins has acquired the nickname of "Cumapart". My own personal pick up truck is a 20 plus years old GMC with a Duramax engine that has almost 521,000 miles on it and still runs great.

[@michaelanderson9352]

It would have been helpful to tell which year models were manufactured with this glitch!

[@jamesmyers9285]

I have had six 3/4 ton RAMs since 1989, all averaging 400,000 miles each. Thanks for this video, I will take my 2023 RAM Cummins in for inspection. If my dealer, which I doubt they will, gives me a bad time about this, I will cancel my 2025 RAM 1500 Tungsten 3.0L in-line Turbo'd six which will replace my 2018 RAM 1500 Limited 3.0L TD I use as my personal transportation. I will show them this video. Thanks again, I wasn't aware of this.

[@ChaosViper67]

What about the KDP, weak supply pump on the VP44, CP4, and 2019+ hydraulic lifters? Isn't the first time won't be the last.

[@rmp5s]

Man...that's BRUTAL!! How much does a repair like this usually run? It CAN'T be cheap...

[@JacobEcret]

Motor is $20,000 according to Brad in another video, after labor I’m assuming

[@rmp5s]

@@JacobEcret Jeeeeez...that is indeed brutal. Shit, man...

[@kellystanton9070]

Yup. Currently spending 20k on a reman motor in my 2017 with just under 100k miles on it, and am putting the Banks air intake on instead of the factory replacement.

[@rmp5s]

@@kellystanton9070 Jeeeeeez...you all need to class action them!!

[@oldrustycars]

There is a recall, but they can't force you to come in. ​@@rmp5s

[@brianwideman2342]

Really makes you wonder how Dodge didn't find this issue during testing. Or did they do any testing.

[@somedrunkdude5728]

Can't really blame the engineers who are forced to design faulty crap that the executives are pushing so they can make a quick short-term profit. As a mechanic, I feel bad for the engineers.

[@linnashton7918]

If the nut had been welded to the grid at the factory it would never have been an issue. Even if it broke the bolt , it would not fall into the engine.AND if you suspected the bolt was broke, all you woud have to do is reach in there and see if it turns with a finger,The broken piece will remain in the nut, which should have been welded fast.The broken section will easily rotate to verify a broken bolt. Or you can just buy the banks kit LOL Poor design/oversight on some engineers behalf

[@mikethompson7290]

Is this a problem across all models of this engine?

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey Banks Great tutorial What year Rams with diesel does it effect Thanks everyone

[@HStahlberg]

Huh, we have multiple 6.7 Cummins powered forklifts built from 2010-2021 and this has never happened to any of our engines, they're derated to max 2200 RPM for the industrial application but otherwise they're the same as the engines in trucks so it's a weird we don't have this issue

[@bankspower]

It could be because of the duty life of the engine. To read more on the subject, tap this link. official.bankspower.com/insider_news/ram-6-7l-grid-heater-engine-failure-cause-prevention/

[@MaxxxFTP]

Any idea when the Monster Ram intake horn and derringer tuner for the 2009 Ram 2500 will be deemed CARB compliant?

[@olegoat6226]

This is exactly why I purchased and installed a Monster Ram Intake...yes, it's a chunk of change...but a lot cheaper than that video...

[@brianschmidt2747]

Another Dodge mess up, but again, they just say no. Cummins is huge they can afford to recall these trucks.

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

When I was a kid I remember seeing an Indy Race that the announcer said was lost by a 0.49 cent part...

[@jaxcell]

I recall the only Diesel powered Indy car losing the race near the end due to a failure. That car was powered by Cummins.

[@125AXer]

That would have been the Turbine Car, sponsored by STP, Andy Granatelli's team. Small bearing failure with just a few laps to go, while leading the 500!

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

@@125AXer ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐That's Right!!! That's Exactly Right!!!

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

@@jaxcell 😎😎😎

[@D4NM00DY]

Gale I have a 2012 TDI sportwagen 3 pedal. I love my car but my dpf is clogged. Will you make a better dpf and set up the I dash to do manual regen on the thing you so it will last more than 99k miles. I was going to delete but seen you do epa tunes. Please help and make it work with your exhaust and give me a lil more hp. Love your vids❤

[@linuxguy1199]

Stupid question, I'm not a diesel guy, the only diesels I've ever worked on were non DPF, naturally aspirated mechanically injected ones. But seriously, what's the purpose of a grid heater and why does it even need to be there, and why is it in the intake?!

[@Casualfield]

"air intake heaters provide an on-board, stand-alone cold weather starting aid without driver intervention"

[@nerd1000ify]

So as you probably know diesels are compression ignition, and have no spark plugs. What this actually means is that the fuel is ignited by the high temperature of the air in the cylinder at TDC. The air is hot because gases heat up when you compress them (this is very noticeable if you ever try to inflate a bike tyre with a small hand pump, the end of the pump gets quite warm). This is all fine and dandy, but when the weather gets cold we start to have a problem: when you're cold starting in sub zero conditions those ice-cold cylinder walls suck heat out of the air, and the air already started out way colder too. This means that the temperature at TDC doesn't get so high. As a result, the injected fuel takes longer to ignite and often not all of it burns, so the engine runs like garbage and blows white smoke (unburnt fuel) out the exhaust until it warms up. In an extreme case the fuel might not ignite at all, causing the engine to be unable to start. Obviously all of the above is highly undesirable for numerous reasons. So we need some way of aiding cold starts. Most of the diesel world has settled on glow plugs for this, their tips projecting into the combustion chamber glow red hot and provide a 'hot spot' to promote ignition of the fuel. Cummins likes to be a bit different, so they instead use the grid heater: It's basically a toaster in the inlet manifold, when the engine is cold it gets switched on and pre-heats the incoming air to promote ignition of the fuel.

[@gdt5430]

As soon as I saw the first video on KZbin regarding the grid heater bolt issue I ripped mine out of my 2018 3500 and put in the Monster Ram. Even if it never failed the peace of mind knowing it's not there anymore to fail was worth it. Monster Ram vs. New Engine, that's a no brainer.

[@buggerlugz6753]

That's one heck of a failure point for a company as large as Cummins to completely ignore.....maybe a billion dollar class action suit will change their minds?

[@danielb-c9100]

I don't see the bank's power monster. Exhaust for the 2008 Silverado 5.3 None flex field. Is it discontinued

[@scottdowney4318]

I got a 2005 5.9 Ram dually 4x4. It does not have that style grid heater. I took mine out and looked at it and its perfect. Have 165,000 miles on engine and runs great

[@Chance21]

Gale, where are the videos on your 2020 RAM 2500 you promised?! That was 4 years ago! Looking forward to seeing data on the exhaust system and seeing the deringer tuner!

[@shawncordeiroTerraceBC]

weld the hole in the piston back up ?

[@countryjoe3551]

LOL!!!!!!!! Noooooooooooo.........

[@layne_cornell]

Does the Monster Ram need tuning to go along with it?

[@DSauve-ct7ig]

Any guarantees on the truck???

[@davidbolton184]

What year model Cummins is this an issue with??? We have an 04 3500 with 168k on it and runs just fine

[@bankspower]

07-Present 6.7l Cummins. You truck is not affected.

[@michaelcaldwell4890]

Thank God and Banks for letting me know about this THANKFULLY before my trucks bolt broke off! I'm loaded with Banks mods now and smiling!

[@ham7053]

what specific years of trucks has this failure been occuring on?

[@mccarterjg]

It's a Dodge tsb for 10-15 ish in particular the dodge air heater solenoid was not to Cummins spec and would hang up causing the intake grid insulator to melt, usually in those years you'll also get the air heater performance code... All years so have some vulnerability to normal wear and tear on that insulator or the nut backing off the stud causing a loose connection and to melt the nut off but less common. If you had the solenoid cause the grid heater to meltdown on the earlier trucks and installed the banks it could cause the new element to burn out but it at least wouldn't immediately run down into a piston

[@johnmorgan5802]

It was covered by warranty and will this banks system void my warranty?

[@sparky6592]

That's a well used topside creeper.

[@richardbitting9210]

I'd love to do this as preventative maintenance. Will this void my powertrain warranty?

[@GORT70]

You would think a major recall would be in order. You would also think that ram/cummins would have changed the design on this.

[@geraldclemens1682]

Does this affect all dodge/ram trucks or just on 6.7

[@bartdaw6681]

Kamloops is a nice city and now I know they have a Banks Dealer!

[@trevorn9381]

Is this a problem on the 2020 Ram 2500s? I have one with 112K miles on it.

[@JM-4716]

Any authorized dealers in Alberta ?

[@feedingravens]

A giant cost for one bolt... and the manufacturer does not care. Reminds me of another, even worse case. I heard there is a case of a faulty safetiy catch on a Remington rifle because of which shots could get fired in spite of the safety catch locked. There were deaths because of that e..g. when someone dropped the rifle. The problem was known by Remington, they had a fix, but it would have cost about 1 dollar in manufacturing. Therefore they preferred to run the risk, the compensations for the (families of the) victims were deemed cheaper, you anyhow have a standing army of lawyers you pay to avoid paying.

[@fu4616]

So is this failure more likely to occur in cold environments? I live in Arizona so the grid heater isn't needed much.

[@bankspower]

We've documented more than 60 failures in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. Climate does not play a role in grid heater failure. Here are a few examples. Moorpark, CA kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqHdinWBqauSes0 Orange, CA kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6GtnnytZ92Vd80 Alta Dena, CA kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKnKfJ2wadKDj6s

[@johnirwin1837]

@@bankspowerWhat parts of those states since all have mountains and northern cold in the winter. Let get real man.

[@CaptSalty1965]

Exactly, why the trial lawyers haven’t jumped on this is beyond me.

[@sepg5084]

The "victims" have to agree to file suit. If they don't, then lawyers have no one to represent

[@WXSTANG]

If it is melting, there is either a poor connection, or the insulator isn't good enough to handle the heat generated and needs something higher temp, or needs to have the power to it limited more. An industrial resistor before the heater will likely fix the problem on the cheap.

[@125AXer]

Somewhere here on KZbin, one contributor did indeed devise a controller system to limit the amperage available to the grid heater circuit, so that there could never be enough power to melt the bolt/nut/connectors. That's a realistic solution, but he couldn't offer a kit due to liability concerns. Most of us wouldn't be technically up to making one ourselves.

[@Big_B123]

What are the Banks Authorized Dealers in Alabama?

[@brianr8581]

We definitely need more EPA bs and more engineers on the clock just to make more stupid failure points! 😅

[@edgar1la62]

Can it be installed in 2014-2017 M2 freightliner?

[@vee5222]

I would sue Dodge on this if I happened to me, I've unplugged the GH in this case but that's no guaranty.

[@christopherwedemeyer2993]

Planned obsolescence. Designed to last just past factory warranty. Computerized modeling Took a huge leap forward about 2003. By 2006 every manufacturer was using this technology to design parts that were just good enough to last X number of heat cycles. Any car made after 2006 will, guaranteed, have failures right after the warranty expires.

[@mccarterjg]

I don't agree with some of the wording, and in particular of the early year failure, a little tweak would make it a bit more honest, and a better sale

[@mccarterjg]

Particularly a solenoid failure while not the only cause, will advance the wear on the insulator natural aging and possible eventual failure to the heater solenoid sticking on overnight and melting the stud and nut off before you start it in the morning and lucky if it loses connection before it drops off in the head. Replacing with only the banks intake will remove the stud but the solenoid is still there to stick again and burn out the new heater which like an oven or dryer element will at least stay in one piece once the circuit is broken (but if left in attended will eventually drop in the intake into the head as the coil rusts off)

[@stacyreid5077]

I have a 2007-1/2 Ram with the 6.7 Cummins how bad are these at doing this

[@markfletcher7244]

Great Video. Well done guys 👍

[@trickjones3345]

What was the bill for that job??

[@chefgiovanni]

The first problem was buying a DODGE truck. Never. Great video.

[@cvr24]

Shout out to the hard working people in Kamloops BC and area, my hometown!

[@mikemallano2484]

Good gravy, I used to work in a Chrysler dealership and it was always things like this -- cheap out here and there on everything. Seems like nothing ever changes at that company.

[@johnbuck6685]

I’m I’m gonna have my dad take care

[@125AXer]

This makes me nervous about the 2016 RAM 3500 that I drive at work. Currently 127K miles. Next time I am at the shop I will be doing the Jiggle Test!

[@Derek-pd4fc]

I just traded my Ram in and while I loved the Cummins, they haven't given Ram a completely flawless engine since they partnered up. 12 valves had the KDP, then the VP44, and now the latest with the grid heater.

[@jeffro221]

What was the KDP? The cracked block at a water jacket, the infamous "53" block casting issue?

[@Derek-pd4fc]

@@jeffro221 Actually no, and I forgot about the 53 block. The KDP (killer dowel pin) was a dowel pin for the timing cover to engine block. It could possibly rattle out and if you're lucky it would just fall into the oil pan, if you weren't it would land in the timing gears and it broke lots of stuff.

[@jeffro221]

@@Derek-pd4fc Oh that's right, I forgot about the killer dowel pin. Thx.

[@driftinso]

What year Rams have this problem?

[@nrakma]

Disgraced Boeing engineers have apparently found a new home at Cummins.

[@ivorscruton5121]

The engine should have had a 24V electrical system, as current is inversely proportional to voltage. At 12V the current would be double that of a 24V system, this is extremely hard on relay contacts, connections and wiring which may be marginal. An otherwise good engine.let down by poor ancillary parts choices by the manufacturer. Great for the aftermarket who capitalise on the shortcomings.

[@theglitch99]

What years (generations) have this issue?

[@bankspower]

2007.5 to current.

[@diegosilang4823]

When life gives you a lemon, you made a lemonade. There is huge aftermarket opportunity to retrofit these hard working trucks.

[@nickheiland3397]

Is this just a 6.7 problem or is it a problem on the 02 5.9 engine also?

[@jsav5845]

6.7

[@TsunauticusIV]

Small town with 100,000 people? I grew up in a small town. There were 300 people in the entire area. 😂

[@Itsa_Mea]

You didn't live in a town. To be considered a "town" it has to have a minimum of 5k people. Sounds like you lived in a village.

[@jacobmoses3712]

Small compared with Vancouver

[@gabrielexplores4931]

It's not a design flaw, It's called "Planned Obsolescence". Dodge has sold a ton of long block when this happens conveniently out of warranty..

[@177SCmaro]

It's a design flaw. Apparently the issue is dodge didn't supply power to Cummins specifications so this can happen. "Planned obselesence" is not a real thing, it's a misunderstanding of the balance between customer demand and product cost. For example, how many customers are willing to pay for a nearly indestructible smart phone that lasts 100 years but costs $100,000? Probably not very many esp since the technology is advancing so quickly it would be outdated in just a few years. People mistake this calculation of the customer's preference for producer's intent. Its basically one customer not agreeing with the majority over the balance of demand and cost and ascribing deceit where there probably is none.

[@frostbite1991]

@@177SCmaro planned obsolescence is 100% real, you can see it everywhere. One example that was very clear to me was a Maytag front load washer I was repairing. They put the water pressure sensor right next to the concrete weight on the front of the drum. When the pathetic plastic/nylon sleeve "shocks" wear out, the drum moves more and more and it smashes that sensor, causing a total failure. This particular model was almost a 1:1 copy of the Kenmore brand frontload I had worked on prior (Maytag, Whirlpool, Kenmore all the same thing). The Kenmore brand had the sensor located lower, away from danger. We can also look at the automotive side of things, small diesel cars/suv's, which have a set mileage to enable a DPF MIL, even if the exhaust pressures before and after DPF are similar. This puts the vehicle into limp mode, you can't rev it up high enough to burn off excess soot, can't force a regen. Customers will limp it to a shop where, by then, it actually has clogged the DPF, resulting in a costly bill. A mobile mechanic here on YT made a video about it. He reset the MIL, got it out of limp mode, poured in a DPF cleaner and forced a regen. Fixed it all without a replacement, which is what the dealer quoted the customer. Video is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/amWTnpqNqNyWaNE

[@nathanfernandez-wc9uu]

@@177SCmaroplanned obsolescence is a real thing, it’s just not typically found in the automotive market. For example, Apple was sued for slowing down the iPhones at one point. They said some bs that the battery will last much longer by artificially slowing down their older iPhone models.

[@jeffro221]

@@177SCmaro What a stu_id comment.

[@stefanpuffer]

Can I install the Monster Ram myself?

[@davidflower7828]

That's why I love my 12 valve. Never had any issues just keeps going.

[@shepherdsfleetservicesllc8147]

Will monster ram void factory warranty?

[@wobblysauce]

This would fall under warranty?

[@salt-emoji]

Love this channel.

[@danielbec4287]

That is just freaking nuts man Unbelievable

[@jedvaulten02]

Nothing compared to the front wheels falling off ford raptors from the factory

[@jsleinonen]

It’s not nuts. It’s bolts!

[@firstname6208]

What year engines is this concerning?

[@bankspower]

2007.5-2024 all share the same factory grid heater assembly.

[@firstname6208]

​@@bankspower I have an '05 so I'm guessing I'm clear. She has a wopping 55k on the speedo.

[@bankspower]

@@firstname6208 Not only are you in the clear, you have a very valuable truck.

[@davidrobinson6495]

Still scratching my head about why Ram has not done a recall on their terrible design.

[@mariolibertad9972]

Sounds like the KDP in the Cummins12 valve

[@n.elliott9122]

We need to go ahead and rename the banks monster Ram to the banks bank account saver!

[@Xenogears]

You don't cover the painted areas when you work on a customer vehicle?

[@chrisinhotwater9896]

Did I just watch a 6:13 commercial ? Dam it, and I don't even own a stupid RAM

[@JosephNnbs]

Don’t worry. I don’t need a grid heater upgrade for my supercharged 1500 sierra either but here I am