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1 dough 2 ovens - ultimate edition - Ooni Koda 16 vs Valoriani Baby 🥊 both gas

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2 жыл бұрын

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Yeah guys! this is a video that I wanted to do for a long time... finally I found a bit of spare time to create, edit and post it now. Since this is a quite unfair competition I added a little fun touch to the video with the "box ring arena" style :)
I had an 18 hour fridge fermented dough for the video with Caputo Pizzeria and a 62 % hydration (summer temps) - nothing really fancy. You can see that the Valoriani makes a great cook even with this relatively low hydrated dough pie. It is just cooked so evenly, crunchy and puffy. This is a result of the incredible Valoriani stone body that delivers the heat very constantly to the pie (radial, conduction and convection). Plus it makes a super fast 70 sec cook possible as well. The Koda of course performs quite poor compared to the Valoriani. But hey, don't get me wrong - I still use the koda sometimes... it is especially nice on the go and if you're just out for one or two pies because it heats up so quickly.
Fule consumption is stunningly quite similar after the Valoriani is cured, it "remembers" the temperature somehow that you have about 0.5 kg of propane consumption on the koda and about 0.7 kg on the Valoriani per hour for neapolitan heat.
Guys this Valoriani is 10x as expensive as the Koda is so this comparison is more a demonstration of extreme differences between what you get when you pay for a high level oven or a lower level oven. It shows that heat≠heat and that cracking add campaigns with high heat possibilities for ovens to reach are more or less sham.
For now I'm closing this series as it ends with the "ultimate" edition here. I really enjoyed it a lot and maybe it is to be continued at some point in the future.
Other videos of this series:
Here is Volume 1 of my popular 1 dough 2 ovens series (Zio Ciro woodfired vs. koda 16 with gas and electric DIY rota table).
• 1 dough 2 ovens - hack...
... and this is volume 2 with the Ardore vs. the Koda 16 (both on propane)
• 1 dough 2 ovens (vol. ...
Ovens used in this video:
This is my original review of the Valoriani Baby 75 wood and gas - the worlds best mobile pro pizza oven
• Valoriani Baby 75 gas ...
This is the my Ooni Koda 16 unpack and first pizza disaster :)
• Video
Here is the Koda 16 paired with the Biscotto Saputo
• Biscotto Saputo in Oon...
You may also like:
This is my pizza dough recipe:
• Hinze‘s woodfired 67% ...
and this beer yeast 🍺 dough:
• Beer🍺 yeast vs standar... (Used in this Video!!!)
Here are my other oven reviews:
Effeuno P134h - the worlds best indoor pizza oven@500°C (USED IN THIS VIDEO!!!)
• The world's best indoo...
Zio Ciro Subito Cotto 60 - unpacking, preheat, + 1st cook WOOD and GAS fired Pizza oven
• Zio Ciro Subito Cotto ...
... and my review of the ooni Pro and Koda 16
• 1 year Ooni Pro vs. 2 ...
Video credits:
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Video content edited and shot on iPhone 11 Pro max with Focus live pro video app (and various tripods:)
Audio edit (Voice) with Garage Band for IOS
Sound effects and music licensed to hinzes'news under the attribution license (in order of appearance):
Title song: Cutting the sky, Ethereal sunset, Cutting the sky (again on end)
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Science 9, Transition 3, 2, Cheers, Clang 7

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@LarsTimme
@LarsTimme 2 жыл бұрын
That valoriani looks incredible 😳
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
not only does it look incredible ... IT IS 😉 just an awesome piece of craftsmanship! I've some more videos on the channel. Among them one where I relight it with just a piece of wood and oxygen after 14 hours of downtime - just insane
@sidneyhoffmann4797
@sidneyhoffmann4797 2 жыл бұрын
Great decision aid👍👏
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
yeah - you really see the difference ...
@danielfenech
@danielfenech 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍 Would you be able to tell us how long it too to preheat them to 400degC+ on the stone floor and in the case of the valoriani if the door was on/off and if the chimney was in open or close position?
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
hey daniel! of corse! the ooni heats up rather quickly 30 min good for me to get it up to 450°C The Valo takes about 45 min in summer with gas to 450°C (that is actually to hot for it... 400°C is sufficient for a neapolitan cook in the valo). You can also check out the description box for further info on the heat up, fuel and cook! The chimney on the valo is in the front so it is not in the dome - this construction makes a better air/flue flow so it is always "open" and so is the door in the pre heat phase! thanks and enjoy! greez from vienna, Hinze
@danielfenech
@danielfenech 2 жыл бұрын
@@hinze55555 , thanks mate very informative!
@kaikenu
@kaikenu 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thanks! I haven't seen the Saputo stone in your recent Ooni Koda videos. Is this just to compare the ovens out of the box? Or did you abandon the Saputo stone for different reasons?
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
hey andy! You're completely right! I wanted to use the "factory settings" for both ovens and compare them... The Saputo is in heavy duty in the effeuno p134h - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f53Ul55tl6iAkJo since I had to cut it for this one in other dimensions to fit the effeuno I do not use it in the koda because I would have to assamble it for the koda again....
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
I still need and love the saputo... now more in the effe :)
@christoofart
@christoofart 2 жыл бұрын
Good comparo between the two, though at 10x the cost for the Valoriani, this seems to be apples to oranges almost. And you can't take the Baby to the park for picnics lol
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
This is so right 😂 but it’s just so much fun 🤩
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
heat≠heat :)
@j5k395tks
@j5k395tks 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning! Got a question. Have you considered testing cozze gas pizza oven? Seems to be well prized but only few films available in internet. Thanks!
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! i don't have any plans for reviewing this one! It seems not very well built from the images and thermally not very stable.... The koda 12 or 16 or the roccbox are well made ovens - maybe get one of these instead :)
@j5k395tks
@j5k395tks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for info!
@j5k395tks
@j5k395tks 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I took a risk and ordered cozze. I can only say it's just perfect! Perfect neapolitan pizza and nothing burned or whatsoever. Around 70 -80 seconds for perfection. Highly recommend for this price!
@Maddin_86
@Maddin_86 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, wie machst deinen Teig? VG
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
hey, das ist ein ganz einfacher - 62% "sommer" hydration mit caputo pizzeria und 18h Kühlschrank Gehzeit mit etwas frischgerm und 3,1% Salz. Gemischt mit der Küchenmaschine und geknetet mit der Hand für 10 min - dann Teigruhe bis der Teig den Fenstertest besteht und dann ab in den Kühlschrank. 5h vor dem Backen dem teig raus, Ballen - Rasten und dann ab in den Ofen...
@Maddin_86
@Maddin_86 2 жыл бұрын
@@hinze55555 Ich habe heute mit dem Caputo Nuvola (Restbestand von einer Testbestellung) einen 70% Hydration Teig (22 Stunden) probiert...ich tu mir immer noch schwer wann ich aufhören muss zu kneten. Egal ob mit der Hand oder meiner Grilleta.Wenn ich mir angucken wie soft und locker du deine ballen aus der Box holen konntest...Zudem habe ich Trockenhefe probiert. Die Pizzapp sagt weniger als frische Hefe, die Ergebnisse sprechen da irgendwie dagegen...wie machst du das?
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Maddin_86 hey m.r. bei mir sind es immer nur ganz wenige schritte: Das Ziel ist immer dass der Teig den Fenstertest besteht und dabei nicht zu warm wird (im sommer ist das besonders blöd aber geht auch). Ich mixe den teig mit meiner Küchenmaschine kurz zusammen (etwa 3-5 min) dann nehme ich ihn raus und knete ihn per hand fertig. Mit fertig meine ich, dass ich ihn so in etwa 10-15 min durchknete - dann besteht der teig aber noch nicht den fenstertest - damit das dann auch passt, lasse ich den Teig in einer Schüssel mit einem nassen geschirrtuch abgedeckt so in etwa 30 - 60 min stehen und probier mal nach 30 min wie elastisch der Teig schon geworden ist. und das geht so: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqGsqp-FpL6NepI sobald er halbwegs so elastisch wie im Video aussieht, geht es ab in die stockgare also der teig geht dann im ganzen entweder im kühlschrank oder eben bei raumtemperatur (im sommer meist nur im Kühlschrank) - es ist echt keine hexerei. bei deinem nuvola mit 70% ist ein "kneten" wahrscheinlich kaum möglich weil der teig so nass ist - da musst du es eher so machen, dass du den teig öfter mal legst und faltest so wie ich es hier mache... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWnId3mYf7Nmm68 - wenn du die grilletta benutzt, kann es sein dass dir der teig beim kneten zu warm wird, da müsstest du dann vielleicht eiswasser benützten - damit der teig mit der grilletta den fenstertest besteht muss er ja nach hydration auch zw. 30 und 40 min geknetet werden und da wird er einfach sehr warm, dass passt dann nicht mehr drum hab ich keinen spiralkneter, weil das so auch ganz einfach geht - quasi mit Zeitablauf.... probiers mal aus, sonst schreib mir einfach ein mail dann können wir mal telefonieren dazu oder eine Teigsession machen :) LG hinze
@Maddin_86
@Maddin_86 2 жыл бұрын
@@hinze55555 Okay, ich denke die Temperatur ist es gewesen, der Teig war schon recht warm. Aber dennoch so lange kneten trotz Spiralkneter? Ich werde es das nächste mal mit mehr Knetzeit und kalten Wasser testen. Danke für die Hilfe und ja gerne können, kar können wir das gerne machen. Hast du Mailadrease für mich? Welche und wieviel Hefe nutzt du in der Regel?
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maddin_86 mailadresse ist in der kanalinfo... einfach mal reinschreiben mit den infos - ich bin in wien - lg und schönes WE noch!
@LaBottegaToscana
@LaBottegaToscana 2 жыл бұрын
Valoriani...Baby...75 ..das Original aus Italien........! Great !
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
Es kann nur einen geben! 😂👍
@LaBottegaToscana
@LaBottegaToscana 2 жыл бұрын
@@hinze55555 Das stimmt.....Qualität setzt sich durch.....! Wie wäre ein Test der tollen Miss Baker Knetmaschine Bernardi....Taucharmtechnik....der Pizzateig wird um klassen besser......
@hinze55555
@hinze55555 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaBottegaToscana Tja, hatten da eh schon mal gesprochen - ich glaub bei ihnen im Marketing... bin eigentlich ganz zufrieden mit meinem 65-67% Teig... schreib ihnen ein mail dazu...
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