#1 Neuroscientist: "Social Media, Porn & Netflix Are WORSE Than You Think" | Andrew Huberman

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Dopamine is not a new topic. People have been obsessing and hearing about dopamine and its role in human behavior for years. You may think of it as the feel-good happy hormone, or you may associate it with addiction, love, lust and sex. As our lives convert over to a totally digital experience that is with us everywhere we are in the form of a cell phone, dopamine detox has even started gaining in popularity.
Dr. Andrew Huberman from the Huberman Lab is back again to unpack some of the more surprising discoveries and uses of dopamine. He cleverly relates dopamine to being a biological currency that has a role to play in human desire for more. Dopamine is the catalyst pushing humanity forward exploring things like cryptocurrency and pushing our limitations and what is possible, but is all of that for the sake of pleasure and feeling good?
Dr. Huberman breaks down the eternal balance of pain and pleasure, arousal and relaxation and gives you the insight you need to start regulating your body’s dopamine release. If you thought dopamine was all about feeling good, Dr. Huberman is about to reveal why it’s more about what motivates you in the pursuit of something greater.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 | Introduction Dr. Andrew Huberman
0:56 | Dopamine the Biological Currency
6:51 | Releasing Dopamine
10:38 | Hormonal Signaling
14:34 | Can We Spike Dopamine?
21:00 | Value the Pursuit & the Dips
25:40 | Balance of Pain and Pleasure
31:23 | Self Regulation of Dopamine
38:28 | Dopamine and Time Perception
44:31 | Dopamine and Overindulging
49:05 | Action Based Denial
52:42 | Using Rules & Dopamine
58:27 | Ways to Get Motivated
QUOTES:
“When I say dopamine is the universal currency of everything, what I mean is, it's driving the motivation to develop new currencies.” [3:08]
“Celebrating the win more than the pursuit, it actually sets you up for failure in the future.” [16:00]
“If you can start to register that craving, and that friction and that desire, that almost kind of low level of agitation, sometimes high level of agitation [...] that's dopamine...” [17:54]
“Your capacity to tap into dopamine as a motivator, not just seeking dopamine rewards, that is infinite.” [19:34]
“It's the craving that makes me feel alive. So it's the state of wanting that is in and of itself, the pleasurable act.” [22:37]
“It doesn't matter if it's Bitcoin or aetherium, it doesn't matter if it's putting rockets on other planets, it doesn't matter if it's building the first automobile, it's the same currency.” [25:27]
“Dopamine itself is not the reward. It's the build up to the reward, and the reward has more of a kind of opioid bliss like property,” [29:51]
“The more pain you experience, the more dopamine you can achieve. If you get back on the avenue of pursuit.” [30:58]
“I would say addiction is a progressive narrowing of the things that bring you pleasure, and I don't like to comment too much on enlightenment, [...] but a good life is a progressive expansion of the things that bring you pleasure, and even better is a good life is a progressive expansion of the things that bring you pleasure and includes pleasure through motivation and hard work. “ [32:55]
“If you think about most of the growth in life comes from these rigidly externally imposed schedules and we hate them. But they are where we learn restraint” [52:42]

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[@TomBilyeu]

What are your favorite brain optimization hacks?

[@ufronmusic6851]

Doing something for about 21 days i guess

[@lilamnbdh967]

I love this Channel, really appreciate your episodes , thank you so much Tom!!

[@redlipmarketing]

A recent discovery: Rich Schefren. Interesting guy to look into if you're interested in systems thinking and entrepreneurship.

[@richg657]

One of the things I've implemented is using the supplementation of magnesium threonate, l-theanine & apigenin for better sleep. All three of these supplements were suggested by Dr. Huberman. Although it took about a week, I find myself sleeping much more sound. The results have been immense from what I was having to deal with before!

[@robertmoore5080]

I discovered Contentment, meaning I learned to stop allowing my emotions to get so excited all the time, so that I could maintain a normal feeling ALL OF THE TIME. What this does is that it keeps you from the spikes, the up high and the down crashes. It allows you to stay content all the time instead of the highs and lows. It's beautiful to live in Contentment because you find happiness wherever u are at in life. The key to finding this is to be a follower of Christ. This is what set me free for the last 15 years from all anxiety, depression, and other mental issues.

[@xanderlander8989]

"Addiction is a progressive narrowing of the things that bring you pleasure. A good life is the progressive expansion of the things that bring you pleasure" This video is worth watching just for that concept.

[@Area559Duh]

Can you dumb it down please lol?

[@Quietanarchy1]

@@Area559Duh if your dopamine tank is empty due to stimulus, you are subconsciously seeking more, requiring more to get the same results. Like diminishing results

[@full-timepog6844]

@@Area559Duh Addiction is essentially making the path to your pleasure more efficient. Like going somewhere to get coffee and eventually purchasing a machine to make coffee at home so you can have it whenever you want.

[@Dplaysitcool]

@@Area559Duh If I can offer a more crude example. Cocaine gives you a massive hit of dopamine. Continued use will end up putting you in a state where nothing else can equal the high that drug gives you. Therefore narrowing your enjoyment down to just cocaine. But eventually cocaine won't be enough either. Thus narrowing your enjoyment even more to where you seek something more. Like sadly crack or whatever. Where as delaying enjoyment, pursuing more meaningful things. Having a more balanced state of dopamine release will over time do the opposite. More thingsin the world will bring you enjoyment and that will expand

[@joelebsworth4259]

this is a lot of what 12 step teaches

[@simob7862]

I did a 30 day challenge where I switched to a old retro Nokia flip phone and after a 2 week period I stopped even thinking about it, I stopped texting people and just rang them, I stopped using KZbin and Netflix completely. I used my desktop and my iPad, for important work things, I removed so many apps in the 4th week. Was a big wake up call. I actually still use it.

[@noelwright3677]

I'm thinking of doing that

[@josephiranya3115]

Are you still using youtube?

[@elliottberkley]

​@@josephiranya3115I guess enough time will tell...

[@RAWDEAL064]

KZbin is part of the work day, huh? 😂jk My first deployment was the same sort of wake up call. Not having internet and being detached from the goings-on of the world outside of the ship was huge to me. Between that and no longer being tied to my phone (looking stuff up, texting people, Facebook, comment section arguments) has really helped me realize a lot of what this dude is talking about. Cutting social media has been a huge boon to me too.

[@victorhardin2186]

Right that's wh6 your commenting on KZbin

[@DanielLopez-ro5zq]

Being a father to my son is the most motivating thing in my life.

[@elliottberkley]

I started early, and I couldn't agree more.

[@nativewarrior5052]

I wish you the best; for yourself as a father, and for your child as well.

[@selfwilliam8708]

Me too!...i want whats best for him and these devices are evil...they take away our motivation

[@jfb716]

That is a beautiful thing to say as well as very motivating. I was blessed with 3 sons and continuing to work on myself to be a better father and a better role model for them keeps me going. It is a never ending process so always strive to be better. They see and absorb everything you do!

[@kenwilcox8642]

This is why I don't have kids ... Drag story time ,, DEI ,, CRT ,, Racism - ( white people ) . Yes , I could be a father , but ,, I'd be pissed off when they cut the balls of my boy ,, and didn't tell me .. and put me in jail for objecting . And yes , I would be in jail .

[@brazenclips]

I sort of inadvertently did my own dopamine detoxes from extended fasting with lots of rest. It’s amazing how much resilience we have once we believe in ourselves.

[@UTAH100]

They are not healthy 18 hours is best- a 2 day once in a while. Many docs talk about why but just know that. I did a 3 day- still can't gain weight back and I am too thin. One guy almost died- effected his sodium levels really badly- hard on kidneys and spikes cortisol. Just eat right.

[@user-jc8py7dw7r]

Such a brilliant comment, and so true.

[@adambarney1137]

But can you share this in a more expound way. Could you share the behaviors of that inadvertently language 😮

[@UTAH100]

@@adambarney1137 Without trying to sounds smart- what exactly are you trying to say Adam? Small words please- I am not too bright.

[@brazenclips]

@@adambarney1137 extended fasts require active dismissal of dopamine-surging activities and their anticipation. I’m not recommending fasting of any kind, just commenting that they helped with dopamine detoxing.

[@advanceddetail]

“Pursue the reward but remember its actually the pursuit that is the reward”, love that!

[@HeartFeltGesture]

There is a much older version of exactly the same wisdom. "Its not the destination, its the journey"

[@garimakharra1784]

Can u explain it plz

[@hanskraut2018]

@@garimakharra1784 Activating the brain helping you solve a problem or pursue something by reducing pain, giving inuition, making you want stuff, enjoying the struggle, enjoying the pursuite, experencing this striving as positive (is better than) > enjoying the end goal since it seems that that pleasure is not sustainable aka getting what you have been working/thinking/craving towards. The brain is extremly complex and while there is much understood in extreme detail a huge unknown number of things is unknown.

[@EddyG0rdo]

Yup. We can order food to our door. We can buy sex. We can scroll Instagram all day. Nothing requires effort anymore. Not good.

[@snowyowl6892]

@@garimakharra1784 ? What ? They just spent the whole video explaining it to you … Listen again but HEAR the info …… you can do it…. 👍

[@junaid3815]

"The problem is not pleasure's, the problem is that the pleasure experienced without the prior requirement of pursuit"- Huberman This is an lifetime quote.. ❤️

[@ioodyssey3740]

a lifetime quote. a

[@golgipogo]

Not “pleasure’s”, but either “pleasures” or “pleasure” also, eliminate “that”

[@in.spired.bylife]

thanks for quoting that, such a powerful one! ✨

[@SupraSav]

It has to do with (instant) gratification and dopamine. If you have a good life, you might find most things pleasurable with no effort to achieve that. Things like a sunrise, food, drink, etc.

[@megaman786]

​@@golgipogothat second pleasure could have been pleasure's or pleasure is. Not the first one though. 😂

[@DonnHowes]

I started smoking Marijuana since my teenage. Got addicted to Crack for over 28 years. Also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment actually saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean.never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

[@BrownGeorge-pw2xo]

Amen God bless people. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without crack, cocaine,alcohol and cigarettes.And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health.

[@Edennnn926]

I've been looking to try shrooms for depression, just very difficult to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!

[@SusanaGomez-mp8sk]

Hey! Yes very sure of Dr.benshrooms. a single dose of shrooms saved me from Alcohol addiction. 6 years clean. no cravings. this doesn't sound weird to me in any way shape or form.

[@laurj09]

I hate that psilocybin gets grouped with drugs like cocaine and heroin. Mushrooms are a remedy, not a vice!

[@NicoleCtirad]

How do I reach out? If possible can I find him on insta

[@ElPensador101]

"We don't progress because we don't wanna do THE BORING STUFF Do the boring stuff." I putted this on a notification note on my phone and has motivated me to do what I need to do.

[@annsann296]

When I was a kid my father sometimes said "it`s good to be bored sometimes". After watching this video I understand it better.

[@jfdb59]

I am a father of a five year old little girl. Sometimes she'll complain she's bored and I straight up tell her "it's not my job to entertain you." People may think that's harsh. But what would be harsh is immediately pandering to that and thus preventing her from ever having to learn how to harness that deficit to create motivation for herself. If I leave her in that state for a bit, she always ends up pursuing some creative independent play and that's where she learns valuable things that will help her later. If I turn the tv on, she'll veg out for as long as I allow it and gain no benefit.

[@LoversPosse]

@@jfdb59You are raising her right brother, we dont need another youth so dependent on constant stimulation and distraction. i was not allowed to watch tv for a bit of my childhood, id play legos and read for hours, it did me wonders as a young man

[@carpandrei7493]

I'd say it's actually a problem that kids today can't handle boredom really well...

[@senyap3924]

It's good for kids to be bored, that's when their creativity comes out, I'm really surprised how parents feed their kids minds with useless toys and screens, let them be and come up with ideas to entertain themselves.

[@Mojokiss]

The happiness of pursuit vs the pursuit of happiness

[@BharatRaghavan08]

I would say the Happiness of pursuit is the pursuit of happiness

[@Mojokiss]

@@BharatRaghavan08 i must agree kind friend.

[@jonhumble3584]

Well put 🤟🏾

[@MKBontwikkeling]

👌

[@canwejustgo7479]

Thats how the 🌎 moves

[@ReductioAdAbsurdum]

The irony is that I wouldn't know about Huberman, or this channel, without social media.

[@samiehsarjamee5807]

Thank you so much Andrew for these podcasts. Truly helpful

[@jaredmello]

“Addiction is a progressive narrowing of the things that give you pleasure.” Spot on by Dr. Huberman

[@SlyPsycho]

@@laceybaier300 You're a fraudulent impostor

[@Sbannmarie]

The dude is spot on.

[@timothymeek24]

Is it too late when it narrows

[@Pateffs]

@@timothymeek24 Never. We can fix our synapses in our brains by changing our behaviour. Fact is that every human cell we have is bygone in the next 8year, our cells regenerates until the day we die but the process gets slower and not very effective as older we get. After the age of 40-50 it gets quite much slower but even then it is very possible to fix and reroute our brains, but you have to do the hard work by yourself.

[@gavin7miller]

@@timothymeek24 no but you need to do a dopamine detox to reset the reward system Have a look at the stuff and Andrew’s work it’s really interesting. Dopamine nation book has been really enlightening too about this

[@KingaGorski]

“Seeking is the reward” - I legit had this a-ha moment of clarity in the bath yesterday. Reward is fleeting, creation is everlasting 💯

[@vegangainzhue4548]

Indeed

[@Q_QQ_Q]

polski ?

[@hollismallory2757]

Eureka

[@KingsTalksAI]

Nice ! Your comment that "creation is everlasting" is honestly even more impactful than "seeking is the reward". Might get that framed in my office, ha cheers

[@spiritlevelstudios]

That's just a fancy way of saying that there are no rewards.

[@torealexandersen2179]

Having kids is the most natural thing to do, yet rising them is the hardest task I have ever engaged in. But man it's so rewarding, I guess my motivation for building a family topped any other argument.

[@MF-kr4hf]

I'll never be able to financially take care of myself and thank God I don't have anyone else relying on me..

[@torealexandersen2179]

I respect the self insight, wish you all the best@@MF-kr4hf

[@Wilhelm4131]

@@MF-kr4hf Most of us don't and back in the day it wouldn't be an issue like it is now

[@joannahikes1337]

This may be 2 years old but the information is timeless thank you both for sharing ❤

[@andrewz2854]

It’s impossible to watch a video featuring Andrew Huberman and not learn something new. This is the best stuff I’ve seen on youtube in years.

[@RapidHealthYT]

Amazing

[@zachjohnson7654]

I was listening to the huberman podcast from the beginning. This interview has to be top 2 on the most important and most actionable info.

[@CoCking_Sanji66]

It’s good but clearly u don’t watch enough KZbin

[@rodobrien3488]

YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE MAN

[@markoceki]

Same bro…

[@WernerBrynard]

"The scent of women's tears causes a dramatic and significant reduction in testosterone in men"... Stop crying babe, you're affecting my gains. lol

[@ladybird491]

Men have affected my gains in the past and wonder if it's their cold feeling. 🤣 Chills of a man, is affecting gains of productive women. 🤣

[@allball8014]

😂

[@jacobgoldenofficial4321]

🤤🤤🤤😖😖

[@jamesbra4410]

Oh wow when she cries I cry it makes sens now

[@jupiterscassini8607]

Stay safe

[@m.e.3614]

Awesome, as always. Thank you for having this AMAZING man on! You are both amazing, and incredible inspirations.

[@samueljustinvids]

Can’t believe i’m 2 years late to this gem - it’s time to turn my life around

[@DebanckKim-rd6to]

Was addicted to heroin and drinking of alcohol for over 7 years also suffered severe depression which affected my dopamine.not until my son recommended me to psilocybin treatment after trying out a psilocybin treatment I will be 2 years clean never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms

[@gefferystones2814]

I've been looking to try shrooms, just very difficult to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need!

[@rosemary8305]

Yup!, very sure of Dr.benshrooms. my first shrooms trip was really awesome. It felt like I was deep into the sea.

[@Wimruther-hk4zn]

I've done microdosing for help and it works does cut depression out its been the best remedy I've ever had psilocybin been illegal is actually a crime against humanity

[@darlingtonegeonu1110]

How can i find him?Is he on instgram

[@nicholda436]

My first experience with shrooms cleared my mind and I started seeing the world on a whole new level

[@FlowKeyOficial]

“You get punished by the bright lights between 10pm and 4am” .. me watching it this video on my phone with maximum brightness at 2am 🤡

[@MindTrip888]

blue light does something too... I got blue blockers for lots of PC screen time. Saw them selling blue LEDs on eye frames to promote something one time. Think it was to help sleep and certain frequencies. So many things that some seem to get in the others way. I have a blue laser and found the blue blockers do block most of it, compared to regular. I think Blue Blockers to stop the over BLUE ALL the Time as it were... and the LED frames were to promote Rhythms synchro or something. Was about a decade ago or so. So its about balance and application. Some hinder sleep and some help it. Colours man, its in the colours... lol.

[@MindTrip888]

hypnotic suggestion... to activate a dopamine hit on a certain colour... and to take it away with a pain with another colour. Could use it to RESET or to CYCLE... with some LED glasses with RGB LEDs that can give any colour combo. Flashing at rates faster or slower as works out best by the research. The whole point is to have control at your finger tips to give you what you want when you want it... mmm sounds addictive... Pavlov's Dog of conditioned response will train a colour association either way. Hypnosis makes it more programming like.

[@hollismallory2757]

Oh I know… I closed the blinds to the lamp post when he said that

[@maryfitzgibbon7210]

🤣🤣🤣

[@alicetaylor6452]

KZbin is in my head 😅 I am just thinking about talking to my doctor about ADHD meds and this morning this video is in my feed. Listened to it this evening whilst doing dinner and learned so much.

[@stacig5997]

I think that this video just changed my life, for the better. Thank you

[@ahsanahmed6317]

The takeaway is don't respond to your silly urges that gives you a hit of dopamine and then you mentally crash after the event. To feel good about yourself do some work that impact lives including yourself. Have some goals and keep pursuing them. Celebrate your successes even if they are small. Learn to love and respect yourself. Learn to believe you deserve the best in life.Mind your own businesses. Know that you have to work your dopamine the hard way and never respond to easy accesses to get them.

[@moo_moon128]

That’s amazing thank you

[@hellomate639]

Really? I took away that I should make more ghost pepper hot sauce and binge it. Haha.

[@robinsarchiz]

How do you celebrate your successes?

[@ahsanahmed6317]

@@robinsarchiz give yourself a treat or whatever to let you enjoy yourself.

[@robinsarchiz]

@@ahsanahmed6317 So how do you delineate between giving in to your urges and rewarding yourself? How much work for a reward?

[@JayWhiteMadden]

21:34 brotha just tore my ass out the frame with this. “You’re doing something you hate for an end state that may never come” basically describes most of my adult life. This is eye-opening. Thank you for this.

[@GOBIAS.INDUSTRIES.]

Don't worry, man - that's almost ALL adults lives. We all need to learn to love the process and not just the reward 👍🏽

[@mayankbhatt1308]

exact same thing blew my mind too

[@brandonearman1168]

Wow there are so many concepts here I have sensed before but never thought much about. Great talk, thank you!

[@Gbreez00]

I've been in therapy for two years tapping into these patterns of mine and this explains many of them! This is life changing!

[@vincentlance377]

"Pursuit the reward, but understand that the pursuit is actually the reward"

[@vincentlance377]

44:00 "When people's dopamine is low they tend to overestimate time and when people's dopamine is high they tend to underestimate time"There is the science behind the saying when you feel good time seems to fly and when you are bored it seems never ending

[@budgetclipperreviews3209]

​@@vincentlance377xxx mevv coming off me my mm mm a

[@sharonpreston2826]

I've always said it slightly different. I say, it's the journey not the destination.

[@sharpshootera]

Single, most important podcast episode i've ever watched...no words

[@larsschneevoigt9723]

Incorporate this in your life, it can be truly fantastic

[@ThatKidBryan]

How can you say "no words" while preceded by a bunch of words?

[@AmbuBadger]

Turn the volume up and you'll hear them. (just kidding.)

[@sir3986]

@@ThatKidBryan figure of speech

[@JamesR23]

You should listen to more podcasts then…

[@joshuawhinery208]

I've been trying to Tack back control of my life for YEARS! Finally, a video for me!

[@NowBeFree]

The two of you have given me a completely different understanding of the value of competition when kept in some moderation. Thank you! ❤❤❤

[@supermarvelous4417]

His talk at 17 minute about being calm when you win is GOLD. I realized that everytime lower ranking tenis player wins against top 10 and celebrates like crazy,he releases so many dopamine and serotonin that in the next round that tennis player in 9/10 cases losses even if he plays against bum. This is one example. So poker face people

[@sergiocoal331]

Thx for sharing this!

[@user-xv5wb6to7g]

Made me think of Phil Ivey

[@LarosFeleon1]

Where I can follow tennis matches and bet on them?

[@baswold7979]

@@LarosFeleon1 are you an addict?

[@LarosFeleon1]

@@baswold7979 What do you mean you're an addict? My mindset behind this question was to make money...

[@KeolaKaai]

Time stamps for a few highlights: 15:57 Celebrating the win more than the pursuit sets you up for failure 31:29 The problem is not pleasures. The problem is that pleasure experienced without prior requirement for pursuit is terrible for us. 32:36 Addiction is a progressive narrowing of the things that bring you pleasure

[@manullado6448]

Thanks mate

[@smokingcrab2290]

Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "work is joy"

[@johnsummers7389]

Great information. In the last part dealing with the neuroplasticity, I don't sleep well. I haven't ever since my head injury at 8yrs old. I am over 50 now and am finding that life is getting harder for me and it keeps coming back to me not sleeping well. I get about 5hrs per night. I have tried a bunch of things to get better. Nothing. I am trying your morning routine this week to see if I can change my chemistry with sun gazing as soon as I see the sun come up.

[@AhmetKaan]

❗ *6 GUIDELINES FOR LIFE:* *1) When you are alone, mind your thoughts.* *2) When you are with your friends, mind your tongue.* *3) When you are angry, mind your temper.* *4) When you are with a group, mind your behaviour.* *5) When you are in trouble, mind your emotions.* *6) When God starts blessing you, mind your ego.*

[@rhondapelletier2141]

Love this!! Thank you!!!!!🙏🙏❤️🌿🎁

[@lifemantras6386]

Nice!

[@kirstenlouwes6852]

I see your comments around a lot and they really provide value. Thank you Ahmet for the effort you put in!

[@raia9]

Agreed - but sounds exhausting. Easier to stay alone and just have one thing to mind.

[@tumbleweeduk7479]

To quote Rhonda Byrne in her interview with Lewis Howes only give attention to what you want and be grateful for everything you have! Best advice ever for creating a beautiful reality. Namaste 🙏

[@drbettyschueler3235]

I keep my dopamine levels fairly stable by rotating my interests. At 79, I'm still devoting at least 3 hours a day to learning new information which I may not ever use. It is the quest to learn a subject, that is the reward, not mastering or even using it, though I usually find some way to use what I learn.

[@loganmedia1142]

Honestly how would you even know what your dopamine levels are? It's not a neurochemical we can feel.

[@mattyboomz22]

​@@loganmedia1142 Catecholamine blood test. Research it sometime! 👍

[@cstacksineedthat]

@@loganmedia1142 A good guess would be how rewarded or motivated you feel to do things for the sake of doing it versus only focusing on rewards, or only doing things that offer rewards (pleasure) with little work. I.e., short term versus long term gratification. Obviously cannot be deduced perfectly and is subjective, but I know that my dopamine levels feel "stable" when I am able to get enjoyment and feel fulfilled from reading a book; I know they are unstable if nothing besides gaming or porn (cheap pleasures) feels interesting. Or if all I care about in the book is what I stand to gain from it. This does seem to divert from just a dopamine conversation, and it is easy to apply a spiritual interpretation. This could be more helpful, given the tenuousness of our own knowledge of our dopamine levels.

[@Yentra163]

​@@loganmedia1142Yes you can...if you were listening to Huberman, he is saying intrinsic motivation IS dopamine. "Dopamine is motivation, the craving, the drive to go out and seek new rewards, it's not the reward itself." This woman has successfully tied her dopamine circuit to the pursuit and not the reward. She exerts effort, experiences friction (learning), and this provides her with dopamine/motivation to continue to explore and learn. In contrast an inexhorbant amount of people are stuck in the loop of reaching for a "hit" of dopamine via instant gratification, which keeps you on the couch.

[@MikeKBar13]

I love the approach. I do find myself increasingly curious about the world and hope to be doing 3 hours a day to various interest at age 79. This conversation between Tom and Andrew was really great.

[@thelazypurler847]

I know I’m going to LOVE this interview, exciting!!❤

[@allyfrasier6306]

Thanks for another great video! I enjoy your interview style, which allowed him to take centre stage and really share key teachings. Prof. Huberman has such a wealth of knowledge and manages to share it in such a way as to keep it within comprehension for my less than scientifically qualified brain. I discovered I have an insatiable thirst to learn from his sound advice.

[@MikeKBar13]

Yes. Completely agree.

[@samnjoeysgrama1]

Every parent needs to know this. It's why giving a teenager a car is so less impactful on his personality than having that teen earn his own car.

[@NobleWolf33]

Kids these days are handed everything besides discipline.

[@michaelwoythaler]

Amen.

[@firepatriot42]

Exactly. I bought and paid for my first vehicle in full, was responsible for the insurance and everything else that goes with owning a vehicle.

[@chasehanger2997]

not just that but my dad messed my system up i think. when i was little he would always say we were gonna go to a place and then not go or when we’d do something bad he’d say “we were gonna do so and so but now we’re not so thanks”

[@ioodyssey3740]

LMAO.... effin poor people crack me up

[@1maripaul]

I'm so thankful that i grew up in the 80s. As a kid i did SO many things... outside! Looking back at how much fun we would have and the things we did back then are the best memories ever! And... kids will never know that experience going forward. I'll tell you all if you weren't there, it was an amazing time to grow up!!!!

[@patgreen6902]

My kids do . Outside all the time. Part of the issue is a) stranger danger & Worrying about safety too much b) lazy parents who can’t be arsed to get out & do things with them

[@SKIDMARKBROWN]

Except the kids who play outside alot

[@yellostone4973]

Yeah, but that’s also why I’m depressed this world is a complete shit hole now.

[@SKIDMARKBROWN]

@@yellostone4973 put your phone down. Quit focusing on the bad . There is plenty of good positive things to focus on if you want to.

[@Supermoneygang12]

This is some boomer shit, congratulations. You are now your parents.

[@laubowiebass]

Dr. Huberman is so clear. Thanks for sharing his knowledge. It’s eye opening.

[@aminblm]

The depth you bring to each conversation is unmatched, Tom! 🌊🎙 #DeepDiveTalks #UnmatchedDepth

[@Dominickq]

"Pleasure without prior pursuit is terrible for us." That insight is gold. So is this entire interview.

[@Tenshi_ZA]

Could you explain what that means? Is it like playing video games just cause you can vs doing your chores and then only playing? Or am I missing the point?

[@ioodyssey3740]

@@Tenshi_ZA It's like needing to be a sinner before you can experience your connection to the infinite.... yeah, it's absurd

[@brainyaffairs72]

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[@Web3Prep]

What's time stamp?

[@SarkkiKarkki]

p0rn in a nutshell

[@oregonmadden8693]

Huberman is in “Beast-mode” both physically and mentally! Such a broad view and very disciplined!

[@mexicodimension9157]

He is "Beast Sapiens mode"

[@danielle7729]

You're right admit him having a broad view. He seems to be generally unbiased on a large number of topics as well. I emit listening to him very much.

[@christiandicus]

Alpha male type

[@slyfox4564]

Why would you want to be a beast? Saying that a man is accting like a beast is an insult

[@DannySullivanMusic]

Hear, hear!

[@chloestokes2603]

Thank you so much for these. It has literally flipped my understanding of dopamine and the part it plays completely on its head. As someone with ADHD this is especially vital.

[@davidbowl9650]

This sounds like a linked in comment haha KZbin is evolving

[@ricardograndio9934]

The information they give us is tremendously valuable, especially useful for avoiding addictions that lead to the inexorable self-destruction of ourselves and everything we touch.

[@C2h5mgi]

I think Dr Andrew has saved my life, i am fighting Alcoholism. For past 10 years , i have been having hangovers almost every day, low dopamine levels and then I drink again to bring dopamine high. Now i have understand, i will just wait and let dopamine level become high naturally. Also i will cut down the things that bring comfort to me. I hope it will work for me and other people also.❤

[@tientruong2007]

“Addiction is a progressive narrowing of the tools we have to regulate our negative emotional states.” Is actually more accurate. People don't get addicted because of the pleasure, but because of the pain it takes away.

[@wagnercorange3458]

Makes sense to me, as well. And Frank Zappa said, in an interview, that "drug use is a way for people to get away. If you don't want addicted people, don't give them a life they want to get away from" or something along those lines. And there is Gabor Maté, who claims he never saw an addicted person who didn't have some kind of trauma.

[@tylergarant8045]

Ultimately only causing more pain in the end

[@Carloss86py]

Interesting idea.. I think both definition are true and complementary.. Addictive things or activities BOTH take you away from pain and give you pleasure. Videogames are an escape for example. They can allow me to get away from any real life pain I want to avoid. They also give me pleasure because they’re designed for that. They make me believe I’m accomplishing something, I’m climbing a ranking, or leveling up, achieving objectives, etc. Food can also do the same. They take you away from pain by making you feel better in the moment. Particularly very high sugar or high carbohidrate + high fat combination foods (junk food, icecream). I’m discovering just now at 35 years of age, that I have the personality type that I can’t do these things in moderation because I don’t self regulate well once I start. So a more effective strategy for me is to have zero access to these type of stuff. Videogames, tv series and anime, are the worst time sinks for me and binging on bad food is a similar process that isn’t a time sink but an energy sink, and makes my health poorer. Other people have other weak spots I suppose, like pornography, sex addiction, or alcohol, drugs, etc. It’s important to know yourself, know your potential weak spots (or things you can be tempted with) and beat them. Dominate them. They are in the way of you and your goals.

[@danniseliger5172]

Very very interesting. My personal motivation to do anything has always been super low. It is extremely hard for me to get out of bed without having something forcing me - it doesn't matter if I'm tested or not I will only shop for or cook food when I'm already quite hungry and so on and so forth. The only way I have achieved anything it's either with gritted teeth or by having done external force compelling me

[@dimitrakoutsogiannis8159]

I enrolled in Cognitive Neuroscience and Neuropsychology at Birkeck College of London to heal and educate myself. at the age of 50. Having reached rock bottom.Minimising and then eliminating social media from my phone. I feel good. ❤

[@PatchesKB]

This reminds me of a quote: "For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it." -Hebrews 12:11

[@anumer897]

Wow! Love this.

[@keatongroom]

This is insane. This is the reason why receiving my degree felt like a bit of a letdown, and that the pursuit of it was where the pleasure lay, and why I now miss being on a “mission” to achieve something.

[@joelebsworth4259]

Move onto the next mission

[@SpaceRanger187]

Go back to school

[@mariamariafujoshiinurarea2524]

I felt this a week after i passed my last exam .

[@willcook403]

We all need something to work toward, something to hope for and something to have fun with. Creates balance in life.

[@kitincognito516]

I thought I was the only one… and it’s haunted me forever. Why do I feel so down right after an accomplishment? What I wasn’t looking at was that I wasn’t pacing my energy to get there so had a huge crash after. Thank you for posting this specifically! Good to know others felt this way at graduation

[@LaynoProd]

Thank you for this episode Tom and Huberman, in the first 20-30 minutes i just learned that the reason why I am successful in my music artist career is that i truly learned to “love the process” and grind and craving of wanting to reach my goals and live out my dreams, and it is that feeling early on that pushes me everyday even in the toughest challenges to keep going, and also not to get too attached to the feeling associated with the rewards and wins, and that last gem of waiting for things to balance out for dopamine and pleasure and pain 🤯💎🙏🏽 with gratitude, LaynoProd

[@charlesstpierre8]

I value these types of character-building or knowledge-increasing videos very highly.

[@kilibecher]

Damn this is gold. Thinking about it as a wave function that goes up and down and being aware of the fact that pursuing too much short term dopamine in any given time can cause you to end up on the wrong end of that function really simplifies things for me. It makes it more tangible to see a path out of it.

[@roelzylstra]

Thinking about this as quantum makes it more tangible. ...Hahahaha!

[@alphacampbell21]

Sinusoidal, indeed. The wider view of the up-down cycle lets you control more, and improvise more as well.

[@cclark3]

This is so hard to talk about especially when you struggle with it much, glad to have these two men help break it down so its easier to digest

[@consider.jennifer]

You know, interestingly (as it relates to Dr Huberman's Ted Talk comment) It has been a while since I watched one of these episodes. I'm glad to watch this one. Thank you Tom!

[@josephkingsley8708]

There’s nothing more fascinating to Tom than Tom. But I still love his stuff.

[@kobalt77]

I am 63 and only discovered I have had ADD all my life 3 years ago, it explained a helluva lot about my life. Procrastination is a huge part of it, I had so many goals and such, but most of it just never happened as I never got around to it, despite a HUGE desire to do so.

[@mrv2308]

Did they prescribe you medication?

[@williamreilly5469]

Same here

[@mirandaoliver-ul5yi]

Real life 😊

[@waiifii22]

Watching this video, I realised a depression trigger for me used to be "boredom" with my life, same same same. I'm now practicing reframing this as the craving for new experiences/stimulus, an endless source of motivation. As well as expanding my perception to recognise, there is no such thing as any moment that is truly exactly the same. Powerful stuff, thank you to all involved!

[@Physics072]

You are welcome. I will send you a bill due first of the month.

[@josefzocek9585]

how is it going year later?

[@AE0N777]

You just blew my mind!!!

[@mindtheprivacy]

They way Tom puts himself to sleeo makes so much sense. I do the same. I have to override the thoughts of my mind vy binaural beats or white noise or very specific noises without a pattern my brain can detect and start thinking about them coming up.

[@terrimartel6558]

This joins the ranks at the top of the list of videos with Professor Huberman. I refer to you as "professor" because I feel like a thrilled student when listening to your interviews or lectures. Thank you.

[@knowhowtodo]

Dopamine detox is a real game changer, once you get the hang of it. Everyone who is trying: Keep going, you got this 💪🏻

[@Mr.Smith2004]

How do you do it?

[@Ed.232]

span your foot in the corner of the wall so that you can feel pain. and your dopamine will reset @@Mr.Smith2004

[@nightmareTomek]

xD

[@Trident2031]

​@@Sinbad-cd6oh one word "pursue"

[@MrQwerty2524]

How did you stop craving dopamine?

[@cienciabit]

This is The Man

[@nickshar7323]

Huberman really inspires with scientific tools. Get sh done🧐

[@dontkillbees]

The Huberman

[@simpleman7203]

Über man

[@workoutdiet1740]

facts

[@lovealways2609]

I have KZbin prime/plus, to remove ads. This guy actually adds multiple commercials. Not a classy move

[@teachershares6505]

Thank you for the talk. I am particularly captured by the time perception topic. A week ago I had to use an app to calculate how old I am because I was shocked by the years of my countries independence. We are same age. But I felt I was a year older so a year off. Then today I had to google what year it is because I felt it is 2022. So a year off but in different direction. I am from Ukraine. So stress from covid growing into stress from the war. I wonder though, how to regulate that? I wouldn't say I am depressed or whatever. I work two jobs, I am getting a second degree. I am very active. I actually got promoted a couple of times last year. And at work, I am thriving. Sometimes I do have lows but within reason. So I wonder about this time perception thing. I can never tell time and apparently I am always a year off each time. I always know the month though bit because I bill people on a monthly basis. Is there a way to adjust time perception in war conditions?

[@DeBora4Bobby]

Amazing! Love me some Mylett. I learned this very same sleep trick to help me sleep when it underwent chemo! Works like a charm!

[@MikeKBar13]

I’ve gotta check him out. I feel the same way about McManus, and evidently they are friends and have a conversation or two on KZbin! It is a wondrous time to be alive, is it not?

[@akapsdiytales7942]

Man....This dude kept Tom quite for most part of the interview, clearly shows the respect Huber deserves. Very very eye opening scientific facts brought it day light. Thanks Tom for bringing this one, waiting for few more from Huber..keep it coming!!

[@GingeRenee]

This explained what I’m feeling so well. I have felt so apathetic in life the last few years. I am going to try to use this knowledge to change my ways because now I’m living and feeling a way that is so depressive and boring. Im tired of feeling lack of enjoyment and motivation in life. I need to detox the dopamine and work on enjoying the process of working towards goals and not put so much emphasis and weight for succeeding. I think this will also help me with actually taking the steps towards my goals instead of letting the fear of not reaching the goal from inhibiting me from even starting. I have a lot to process from this video and thankful for it. I have struggled with this feeling of mundaneness and apathy for life for long enough. I’m thankful I’m not depressed like I use to be but I still know I’m not living a life I should be and enjoyment of life is possible for me. Thank you Tom for this wonderful video and for all the great videos you put out to help the collective.

[@galvantron992]

Right there with you...been feeling the same way and I'm changing it today.

[@loganmedia1142]

You cannot detox dopamine. That is just not how dopamine works.

[@Gabucha888]

Like David Goggins said: DISCIPLINE is the key. It brings the MOTIVATION back to track. GREAT PODCAST!

[@nescionetizen295]

The key to homelessness is buying a house

[@TranscendingTrauma]

It would be interesting to hear you talk about the dopamine and adrenaline addiction that happens inside of abusive relationships.

[@biggiebaby3541]

As soon as he writes a book to sell.

[@TheConsciousEndeavor]

Keeping consistency in our efforts is also key. Sometimes we expect high reward but also need to find peace in the process of growth even when it is not immediate dopamine but the long term thinking and commitment to the pursuit is in itself rewarding from the sense of contentment

[@twocents9816]

I was an achiever most of my life. I have numerous degrees and have made a lot of money. I had so much energy, so much drive; then my little brother died and I realized how much time I wasted behind a desk, mindlessly and meaninglessly toiling, toiling, toiling, busy work, busy work, busy work…time away from those I love. Now I am sad and bitter that I wasted so much time on superficial, meaningless work at the expense of time with my loved ones. In addition to the new view I have on wasting my time climbing the career ladder, I am struggling with guilt bc I can’t turn a blind eye towards the reality that so many people are suffering anymore. I live in one of the most beautiful and expensive places in the U.S., I travel, stay in fancy condos, eat exotic, expensive food, then I come home, go to the store and walk past people who are dirty, broken, homeless and begging for any handout. This breaks my heart. It causes me to feel guilt over my frivolous waste of money. I feel disgusting wearing expensive things. It feels wrong to care about “things.” So now, I am stuck; I don’t want to waste valuable time away from family doing meaningless busy work and I can’t, in good conscience, waste money on meaningless things. That being said, I am struggling to get a “dopamine” hit bc I can’t figure out a venue to pursue. I historically have met all my goals in life, but now I feel aimless, I don’t have a goal, I don’t have a purpose. I feel lost and lazy. I’m tired. I have slowed to a crawl. My older brother, who is a much higher achiever than me, is also struggling, but instead of slowing down, he has thrown himself into busy work, but it no longer brings him joy. Maybe I need to exercise more, maybe I need meds, maybe I need an ice bath. what do you think I need? I have felt this way for almost two years now.

[@HoszHosz]

First, I'm really sorry for your loss. Second, I want to say that behind these words I see a strong, potent and efficient person that is in the process of reevaluating her life, in the process of discovery of her deep, true identity as a human being. Who can now recognize what is important for her. I wouldn't say you are aimless - I read that you discovered that you have many assets, skills and experiences and also see what you need and what you're longing for. Maybe you don't know how to align these to determine your life path, but everything takes time. We grow things giving them active attention (persistent ignoring might be also a lot of energy so it's also about denying things). It's about reframing one's beliefs. You feel guilty of having things - say: I have wealth. What can I do with it? I'm worthy of having clothes I like. Do I like what I'm wearing? If I'm not identyfying with the clothes I wear, maybe I should give them away? What do I need right now to feel better? What can I do to make it happen? Remember that facts are only facts... they don't make you good or bad. Evaluation can only happen in context. In what context that you're putting on your self worth you think that you can't care about things? Also grief takes some time. Give yourself the time. Try to be gentle and loving to yourself, if you feel sorry for broken people, why don't you feel sorry for yourself? You're broken right now too... All your compassion you have for others - you deserve too. It's normal to feel a range of emotions in the aftermath such an event, including feelings of unworthiness. I don't want to sound offensive because I get it, loss of the loved one is the most terrible thing. But there's a helpful technique to ask oneself: how is this worst thing that happened to me, the best thing that happened to me? It helps with the reframing... Everything in our life has consequences and they are not only negative. I see you've been growing on your traumatic experience even if you don't feel like you should. But we humans are designed to constantly evolve. You now see that your family is a great value and you even mention the first task you could do. Reach out to your older brother and try to connect with him, bond. Having support is really important and you can provide support to each other, especially that you both know what you've been facing. Kari take care, I hope you feel better soon. I'm sure you're a wonderful, worthy, powerful person.

[@vikasgupta1828]

Live in a monastery for a year and Read the book: The Second Mountain

[@sainathasokan9224]

I recommend meditation! 60 days (and beyond) of sitting still, eyes closed for 1 hour a day and doing nothing both externally and internally (no need to focus on anything in particular) is guaranteed to reset your life. Look up Naval Ravikant’s suggestion about it. It will force you to sit still and take a closer look at your thoughts and emotions without running away. It will help you process the inbox of the events in your life while getting you closer to your true self (consciousness). When you get closer to inbox 0 (which doesn’t mean you don’t have thoughts or emotions), you will be closer to the present moment and understand what I mean. There is deep inner peace, happiness and joy to be experienced no matter the external circumstances. It just takes patience, forgiveness, love and compassion for yourself. Best of luck on your journey!

[@vinodsawant9343]

Simply walk in nature 👍🏻

[@sabrinaa419]

Reconnect with nature. Do lots of charity work too. This will bring joy back into your life. Maybe try doing a mission trip in a different country. Try to spend more time with your family & community. You can’t change the past, but you can change the future. Don’t make excuses now. Everything happens for a reason. You learned your lesson. Now get up & stop being sorry for yourself. Go make a difference, That’s what brings true happiness.

[@van4195]

seeking is the reward BECAUSE: when you get the reward, it feels good to know you fought for more & you WON it!!

[@midishh]

chasing highs is a recipe for disaster... be happy with your lot, this is the key... seeing the beauty in all you already have and are

[@TyronneRatcliff]

Awesome interview. A big part of living a happy life is working hard for what you get and delayed gratification.

[@Vanesaeliana28]

I am a huge fan of this man, what a incredible thing to do bring people this kind of information for free. So thankfull

[@daksithchandula116]

Damn I cried a little bit during this interview 😮😮😮 that is how much epiphanies I got during this. Thankss ❤❤❤

[@cynthiamarston2208]

I tell ya. Answering to the needs of my dogs has kept alive. Caretaking can result in burnout but dogs are pretty easy and most the stuff they need is good for you too. 71 and always fighting depression from pain just walking the dogs is keeping me going. And feeding the horses twice a day rain or shine. The SAD therapy in Fall and Winter. Im told it doesn’t work for everyone. Im not brimming with motivation at all but I get stuff done.

[@anthonycavallero6637]

I am motivated by tortoises .thank God they will outlive me.

[@di_decaire]

Yep my SO of 15 months just needs a dog, loves animals above women and even professed it on his website. Too hard to deal with a woman (so many, many) and keeps threatening to get a dog to replace me to lick his face. I got used for for another 'relationship'.

[@brendapolar8506]

Damn Tom! I’ve listen to this talk before, but today, everything you and Dr. Huberman were discussing hit me like a ton of bricks! Made so much sense -wow! Big Thank you to and your team for all you do to✌🏼

[@MrGoldbeere]

Thank you for being honest about picking up the phone too early in the morning. This makes the whole conversation even more valuable. ❤

[@UTAH100]

On a vacation you naturally do many of the good things he talks about. Up early, go for a long walk in the sun- no phones, quiet, be in nature, eat well, less stress!

[@EtherealAmbiencemusic]

I love all of your interviews but, man, I think that this one has been my favorite! Relevant for anyone in modern society. Thank you!

[@p.cap.7903]

this podcast blew my mind. thank you andrew. Dopamine is so interesting and this helped me understand why i feel a certain way sometimes, all makes sense. So important to understand why our brains behave a certain way along with the feelings that go along with it, many times they can be midinterpreted but hearing you explain the "why" helps me understand the exact reasons. incredible

[@physicianskitchen]

So much to learn from a single video. I'm so glad there is free high quality science content on YT. My little family members have been paying attention, probably don't understand much yet but soon enough :)

[@nilwccm123]

Thank you Andrew. Thank you Tom for bringing Andrew and discussing this topics. So important in this time of my life. I'll definetly come back to this one. Thanks thanks thanks.

[@dean6125]

I went through phase of not really finishing things off, brainfog etc. Eventually had a condition diagnosed that I have to take dopamine agonist tablet every week to bring back normal. Has changed my motivation levels and i stay focused a lot better. I also avoid alcohol and that messes things up too. Good to be aware of how it works

[@epictetus__]

"Addiction is the progressive narrowing of the things that brings you pleasure, and a good life is the progressive expansion of things that brings you pleasure." - Huberman

[@wachisanyondo2894]

Dope interview Tom! One love to Dr Huberman! Very insightful! Thanks for the knowledge.

[@PurpleLightWarriorc]

This is exactly what I told my x glad Mr hunnerman speaks about this topic and also helps women.understand this as well.❤

[@jg4585]

This info should be taught in every high school in the country. 10 min in and I have already learned info that could have helped me 20 yrs ago.

[@BraveAbandon]

15:40 I can say in my own life, as a child and then a teen, that I have been so utterly disappointed by broken promises from my parents that it utterly devestated any and all ambition I had. Now I know why.

[@BraveAbandon]

@@ju5055 ty i will!

[@Grooovin1]

Tom, been watching for years. This episode may be the best of all of them, really useful information here, thanks!

[@kullekusk8136]

I think that one can learn how to adapt to "pleasure" without pursuit, in a way. Also, I think that one can argue that addiction will make you receive more pleasure from certain things, but still possibly enjoy other things, unless the addiction is pathological. It's not simple.

[@havocgr1976]

Amazing video.Saving this for future reference and sharing.I dont think I need to not look at my phone since I only look once when I wake up,for phonecalls, the internet is turned OFF.

[@roselolagne6642]

Dr. Andrew is just incredible. Every time I listen to him I learn like 10 new things. My Bain hurts I just want to absorb all of his knowledge.

[@thelograph7162]

Enjoyed filling my brain with this. I do story mode at night too, Tom. Familiar stories especially work. I've listened to War of the World's a thousand times, or end of empire history stuff. I really enjoyed the non judgemental approach in this conversation.

[@emilyknowlton8602]

This Dr. is so smart.