1 Year Ago I Switched from Fuji to Sony - Here's what I've Learned

[@kqschwarz]

I’m not sure I have ever seen such an honest appraisal of two camera systems or of one’s self. Terrific. All the best.

[@cirrus1964]

Real photographers don't care much, they just take photo's!

[@PippetWhippet]

@@cirrus1964In my experience, the photographers we all celebrate and agree are real photographers care deeply about what they used. They are the people who bumped up against a cameras limitations and demanded more, and as they had a voice, camera manufacturers listened and designed to their specifications. They are hugely demanding as to what their camera can do - and have the sponsorships to not have to pay for it themselves.

[@MrsMysteryWoman]

👍🏻💯

[@Noam_Karni]

There's only one problem here - he has compared a sony camera that costs about 700$ more than the X-T4 and is 1 Gen above. If you want to compare between these 2 cameras that's cool, but if you want to compare the whole brand - you should go with the X-T5 (which is insanely better than the X-T4)

[@Tnapvrvideo]

I go back to the years of a single 50mm prime lens, rolls of b&w film stuffed in my pockets, and developing our own film back in the dark room at the newspaper. "Content" is what mattered. Period. Most of my published shots were slightly out of focus, a little grainy, and exposed close to correct using that little red meter in the viewfinder. But, I got a lot of pictures in the newspaper: quite a few on the front page. A number of those far from perfect pictures framed and hung on the walls of the newspaper office as chosen by the editors. I was fortunate to capture nice "Content". Lots of back stage images, locker room images, and dressing room images where access was denied to the public eye and therefore interest was high for these coveted looks behind the curtain and behind closed doors. And some street shots that covered important current events. I share all of this to make the point that the entire focus of photography has been hijacked by the manufacturers through massive marketing efforts. Everyone is focused on MB, pixels, lens distortion, AF, and a whole list of other over-the-top features that truly have nothing to do with "Content". The camera is not identifying interesting subjects to capture. Whether you own Canon, Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Leica, and so on is irrelevant. Look through books of the older masters and you quickly see that "Content" fills the pages of those books. In many cases, the image quality is adequate at best, yet you remain riveted to the page because of how they captured the image.

[@jimpap13]

agree 100 percent

[@robertuskoppies444]

You absolutely nailed it. How were the "Old Masters" with their inferior analog cameras and lenses able to take such stunning and legendary pictures? "Gearheads", who are longing for the best possible equipment are not really into photography....they are into "gear fetish". I use my PENTAX Spotmatic on a daily basis, for studio work I use this insanely "old fashioned" Nikon D700. It still works very well!

[@Tnapvrvideo]

You are spot on with your "gear fetish" attribute. That's a perfect analogy. The exact same scenario is and has been happening with stereo equipment for years. You have people spending in the $100's and some spending in the $1000's on speaker wire. You have people claiming to be able to hear differences in the output of DAC's, tonearms on turntables, different CD players, and the overall improvement of the sound of an amplifier or other component with the use of an amp stand, a suspension shelving system and/or a weight placed on the top of the unit to dampen vibration. People are spending $100's on miniature stands to elevate their speaker wire off the floor as the electrons travel to the speaker. Now I am seeing over-the-top discussions debating the sound of different versions of the same album. People are dissecting the difference in sound output of different tubes (with the same specs) placed in the same component. It's stunning just how successful marketing campaigns have become in both industries. My advice to anyone assembling a stereo is to spend 80% of your budget on the speakers. The sound produced by the drivers and the crossover inside the speaker is what your ears are ultimately hearing. If you are staying strictly digital with CD's and/or streaming as your source material, move the budget allocation to 90% for the speakers. From experience, I can say without hesitation that you can hear the difference between tube amplification and solid state amplification. The tube route is far more expensive to acquire a clean output. There's nearly an undetectable difference between a $150 CD player and a $5,000 CD player. There is nearly an undetectable difference between an integrated amplifier or separates (preamp + amp). Separates are quite a bit more expensive. There's nearly an undetectable difference between a $500 turntable and a $5,000 turntable. My wife and I have done all of these A/B comparisons, in depth, when we assembled a new stereo system not too many years ago. At any cost and using any system, the sound of an album will include some ticks, pops, crackles and hiss sooner than later, if not immediately, depending on the album itself. Albums do wear down, albeit slowly, if you have a very expensive cartridge. CD's offer a flawless sound unless the disc is physically damaged. I was born in 1960. I KNOW albums. I was there in the early 80's when CD's made their entrance. I KNOW CD's. In between, we listened to cassettes and 8-track tapes in our cars and our homes. Albums offer a wonderful tactile experience of holding the album, enjoying the artwork, enjoying the liner notes, placing the album on the turntable, manually cueing the songs with the tonearm, and displaying the albums on shelving if so desired. CD's offer crystal clear sound, the convenience of small storage requirements, and pennies on the dollar to build a collection online. The speakers produce the sound that you hear. The sound difference between the two sources is present (albums v. CD), but it has a lot more to do with the tactile difference between the two as described above. In fact, the more you spend on analog the more you reveal the flaws of the albums that you own. It's comparable to the elevated quality of a magnifying glass or a telescope except we're referring to sound not sight. Consider the sound you hear at a concert or a night club. It's not that good. The din is awful. The distractions are endless. However, you thoroughly enjoy it because of the overall listening experience: being there, seeing it played live, and just taking in the wonderful moment with other like minded fans of said performer(s). Ignore the marketing campaigns for both cameras and stereo equipment. Just pick out an album, a CD, or a streaming choice, press play and simply enjoy the music: spend your hard earned money elsewhere or save it and earn some interest. Study the old masters who shot all of their photographs with a simple 50mm lens, who used their legs to zoom in and out, and placed their entire decision process on Content.

[@PippetWhippet]

@@TnapvrvideoYou’re correct when it comes to audiophiles, most of them are daft as a brush. I do disagree slightly with your last sentence. A great photographer can see the most mundane thing and take a great photograph of it. A woman in a hijab in Afghanistan becomes a national geographic cover because the photographer knows lighting well and can pick out her eyes perfectly. A cliff face becomes the most photographed beauty spot in America because one photographer understood that it looks best on one particular day of the year at an exact time on that day and returned seven years in a row until he got that shot. These are, with all due respect to that lady, boring photos in every other photographers hands. Great photographers don’t need exciting subjects to make us all sit up and take notice. Why are you out looking for a shark when the most celebrated photo of a fish ever taken was in the photographers back garden of their goldfish?

[@Tnapvrvideo]

Nicely stated. All very good points. We're thinking the same. Your beautifully detailed descriptions of the woman on the cover shot, the cliff face, and the goldfish pond. Those celebrated shots were masterfully taken. That said, I still think "Content" (and the unstated story behind the image) is the true capture. Our subjective views aside, these amazing images had nothing to do with the camera brand, etc. which was truly the point of my post. I believe I know the image you are referring to of the woman on the cover with the blue eyes, and I am guessing an El Capitan or Half Dome shot by Ansel Adams. I don't know the fish image off hand. In your cited examples, the image was superbly shot by a highly gifted photographer. Someone who has insight, intuition, and skills to support their exceptional, creative eye furthering the point that the equipment does not instill these inherent skills into the owner. There's a B&W image by Dorothea Lange of a migrant women shot during the depression: one of a larger series. An image that you, no doubt, are quite familiar with given the depth of your post. That photo is stunning. It's not perfect with regards to clarity and focus. It might very well have ended up on a magazine cover though its content may have prompted censorship at the time; I don't know. All that aside, it tells a story. It reveals a devastating truth and a sad reality. It's a stunning capture requiring the level of skill you described in your examples. Since that image, and most likely before that image, there have been seemingly countless images of woman in all types of scenes, conveying all types of emotional feedback and viewer response. Yet, we have in our two posts identified two of the better known to date though some would argue there's a Marilyn Monroe shot worthy of this discussion or an image of Julia Childe or Amelia Earhart. You would identify the mastery of the photographer who took the image to a higher realm, and I would agree 100%. We'd both admire their demonstrated ability. Never in our discussion would we bother to mention the camera or the equipment used. I am not sure I would agree entirely that the subject isn't critically important in the overall appeal of an image. I think the subject (aka Content or Story) are the magnet pulling the viewer deeper into the photograph. If I were viewing a gallery exhibition and I came across two beautifully executed photographs of a fishing pier that were hanging side by side on the wall, one was simply set in the foreground of an empty seascape while the other had a rather tired, but actively used fishing boat tied to the pilings, I see myself investing more time and emotion viewing the image with the boat. Having a significant background in boating and fishing, I can imagine myself seeing things within that boat's image, its deck content, its equipment that would jolt a distant memory or prompt a flashback from my earlier lifetime. Afghanistan where I have not been, Yosemite where I actually have been and did climb Half Dome, Julia Childe who amazingly I did meet in her home at a photo shoot of her birthday party (I was the lowly equipment carrier), and the Depression which was before my time as were Monroe and Earhart are references to iconic, emotionally charged subjects which I feel advance their potential for long-term success as images when photographed well. I do truly feel that subject is the lasting ingredient. We'll all stop and admire a superbly executed image where lighting and everything else was done to perfection. I don't think it's the photograph we'll remember the longest without invested emotion and memory to keep it alive in our mind.

[@dillcarver7731]

I've been a photographer since the 1980's, I've had many full frame cameras, mainly canon. I picked up a Fuji X-E3 with some primes a few years ago. I wanted a light carry and the manual dial controls and aperture rings on the lenses appealed to me in a nostalgic way. My Canon R5 is relegated nowadays. The Fujifilm gear has rejuvenated my love for photography and reignited my passion in a way I've not felt since my film camera days. I love getting the image right in the camera with the film emulations and recipes. I spent hours in lightroom tweaking RAW images, but no more. I now have a Fuji X-Pro 3 and I love it. The Canon is clinically better but the Fuji has the soul and I love the tactile experience of the dials, the whole experience is superior and I am getting out with the camera much more often. The Canon Images are scientifically sharp and precise but my Fuji images are gloriously imperfect. I have recipes that match the look my old 35mm Film pictures, perfectly. I'd lose the canon before I'd give up my fuji gear.

[@sn4rl277]

When you said "that the Difference in image quality and such will not make my photos any better or my video's any more interesting" you hit the nail on the head for most of us. There are pro's shooting with older gear getting really amazing photos and video. But here we all are, rationalize our new camera purchase. Let face the facts, the camera companies are in business to sell you a new camera ever couple of years. So if they can add newer features and options your 2 year old camera doesn't have to get you to jump, then they are successful at their job. Reason why so many KZbin Photography/Videographer influencers are packing around $20k worth of gear, because camera companies give them the "New stuff" so it builds hype and they want you to want that new camera or lens.

[@harryvuemedia]

You literally don't know what the heck you are talking about. Just another person ranting to justified making himself feel better about keeping his old cameras. Sony revolutionized the mirrorless cameras, something that Canon and Nikon didn't even considered until Mirrorless became super popular. Camera tech has to move forward, not backward. Sony is moving it forward with Canon and Nikon following. But it seems like you're the type who thinks all new cameras are just niches and offers nothing new or revolutionary. I'm glad you're not working in the R&D department. Better yet, stop using your smartphone and go back to using an old flip-phone. These new cameras you're talking about were made by us, the users. We tell the companies what we want to see and how they can improve on it. They listened to us and implement the features in the next model thus giving us many reasons to upgrade. If we don't say anything or give any feedbacks, then I'm sure Canon, Nikon and Sony would be out of business by now. Camera companies gives them new stuff to try out, not to keep dude. Reason why they do so is because they want to prove to the world that their products are amazing and revolutionary. I don't see you going out there and reviewing the newest lenses or cameras. But its easier for you to talk bias since you're just a bias photographer yourself. The more the merrier and majority of these companies back up their claims too. Can you do the same? Otherwise, keep talking nonsense to justify keeping your old gears my friend.

[@ztao3777]

​@@harryvuemedia Are you serious about it? We're talking about how camera gear upgrade translates into the perceivable improvement of your work while what you put down there was just a bootlick of tech company. I'm not saying all that is not worth it but it's still not the decisive factor at the end of day in your photography or videography skill. Image quality has reached a point of diminishing returns. The investment in switching from one camera to another can't usually justify the upgrade. I have been an event photographer for 4 years and I'm still happy with the photos from my XH1 and Nikon Z6. The essence of photography lays behind the brain behind the camera not the camera itself. Photography is a form of art not fully quantifiable by means of tech. It matters to a certain point then it doesn't any more.

[@jac1207]

@@harryvuemedia Just keep consuming. Don't think, just keep buying new stuff. What's that? 2 year old model doesn't have the new hardware? You need to chuck that thing into the garbage and take out a loan to buy the newly released camera! The newer and better technology, the better your photography will be, no more worries of finding a good composition or timing, don't let old tech hold you back!

[@harryvuemedia]

@@jac1207 it did improved it dude. a7iii to a7iv is a massive jump, not a small one. A9ii to a9iii is another massive leap in photography. There are cameras like the a7riii to a7riv that wasn't a huge leap. But yes, let's hear it from you who have no work to show us. Let's see your work and prove me wrong. Show me everything you have and prove me wrong. My work is available, go watch it and tell me how my work didn't improve again. Otherwise, keep your opinion to yourself.

[@harryvuemedia]

​@@jac1207 Someone deleted my comment again. I guess they are so insecure that they have to delete it because they don't want people hearing the facts. What 2 year old models that new models dont have? A lot of things dude. A7iii to a7iv was a huge leap. A7iii doesn't have 10-bit colors so a7iv filled in that hole. a9ii has a rolling shutter while a9iii revolutionized the camera world again with its global shutter. Same thing with a7sii to a7siii and a7Riv to a7Rv. Show me your fudging work and stop hiding behind a fake account because of your insecurities. Talk so much sh*t but can't back it up besides spitting out gibberish.

[@stephangauthier911]

At least you were honest enough to admit you were caught by the marketing. I've been shooting for 15 years now and holy moly did social media created huge fomo and gear envy. Less gear, more art!

[@charliejg]

The biggest reason after much research and shopping that I bought my barely used X-t3 kit three years ago was performance for the price. I looked at all of the FF choices. They all cost more for just the body that what I paid for the X-T3 with the 18-55, a grip and extra batteries. And, it was still in the original box all still wrapped up like new. In addition, I have been able to afford high quality lenses like the xf56 f1.2(V1.0) and the xf90mm f2 on the used market. I got each for under $500 US and both in like new condition with some patient shopping and a bit of luck! The FF lenses are just way too expensive for me. Finally, as an amateur/enthusiast photographer, the X-T3 is still more than capable enough for me. And, it's a beast of a camera. I take it out on trail hiking all the time. Not sure if I'll be shopping again any time soon, but for now I'm very happy with the X-T3. Thanks for the overview of your experience!! Have a great day.

[@mr02gixxer1000]

I agree with you on the Xt3 being using mine now for nearly two years, love the Fuji colors, and I really love the way the camera looks. But the only downside is auto focus! I miss some really great shots and at the same time hit some great ones. But miss more than I would like to, the auto focus is not reliable! I wanted to upgrade to the Xt5 but no battery grip for that one, as I leave the battery grip on my XT 3 because with my big hands having the battery grip feels a lot better to me and I can hold on to the camera all day when using the grip. I look at the Xh2s and Xh2 but at those prices and the looks might as well go canon as I am really thinking about the R6mk 2 especially first for Af and second the second the color science, and third while not that important but welcome the bigger sensor. Next to Fuji colors i like the canon colors also. I really don’t want to make the jump, but for me the Af on my Xt3 is just to unreliable. The only way to make sure you hit shot is to manual focus and that is good in some cases! I would love to use my XT3 professionally but the AF is just to unreliable especially in lower light conditions! Beautiful camera to shoot with but it would even be more enjoyable if I didn’t miss those key shots sometimes it just takes away from the experience. FuJifilm looks like they improved the AF on the newer cameras, especially the XH2S. The XT5 I really wanted to give that one a go but no battery grip why Fuji? The XT line I just like the way they look and the user experience! But having more hit rate is more important to me especially if I am going to use the camera in a professional setting!! Thus Better Af is more important to me, come on Fuji I need a more reliable AF and bring back the battery grip for the XT6? Not every body has small hands.

[@lachcim104]

Totally agree for the exactly the same reasons.

[@KiR_3d]

@@mr02gixxer1000 you can get a cage instead of a grip. It gives a bigger size. Also it partially protect your camera.

[@pwVideoC]

@@mr02gixxer1000or try the screw-on grip from Smallrig. Really happy with it, also with bigger lenses (in my case adapted Sigma 18-35 with Fringer Pro adapter)

[@spcXmky]

You nailed it. Most youtubers advertise a system switch like money grows on trees. For people like me, It's more of a hobby than a profession, and like you mentioned, I got a used xt3, an 18-55 and a viltrox 23mm, all for lesser than what a full frame body alone costs.

[@Kuzumby]

I just went through the same switch for very similar reasons. I sold all my fuji gear including the x-t5 to pick up Sony a7iv but I had rather the opposite realization about my gear. I have found that for me the camera in my hand is just a tool, as long as the tool does what I tell it, I could care less what dials or buttons it has or how it looks. I found leaving the retro Fuji style liberating, rather than worrying about how each lens looked on the camera and what people would think of my choices (most don't care BTW), I have focused so much more on the photos I am creating. The switch has left me with a beautiful and profound realization that for me, it's what's on the card that matters, not the tool that captured it. I do have to say one thing that I love about Sony, when you ask it to focus on someone's eye, there is no question and no hesitation, it just does it and does it well, I really appreciate that.

[@stephangauthier911]

Words of wisdom right there. My photography took a big leap when I stopped worrying about the gear.

[@HendrixVisuals]

Why anyone would care how it looks psychically is beyond me. Lol my XT5 is all black and so are my lenses. It’s more the color science and Fuji simulations (of course)

[@GratoNite]

Same man, though I'm using an XT-20, but it's autofocus and face detection is wacky (even with fujinon lenses), my friend who uses A6300 (similar price to XT-20) rarely misfocus, and it's blazing fast autofocus. I'm saving up to move to A6400 with a zoom (Tamron 17-70) and a Sigma 56mm), then probably upgrade the body to A6700.

[@Moshe_Dayan44]

"I do have to say one thing that I love about Sony, when you ask it to focus on someone's eye, there is no question and no hesitation, it just does it and does it well..." It's extremely hard to quantify just how important this is. I have a 6 1/2 month old daughter that I have been shooting relentlessly with my 10 year old Sony a6000. The autofocus is simply not good enough for me; too many shots where the focus is not on her eye, which is where I want it to be 99% of the time. As a result, I'm looking at jumping not only to a newer Sony camera, but also to a full frame Sony camera. However, since I'm not a professional, and I don't need dual-card slots, I'm looking at the Sony A7C II as my next camera. The fact that it has a body just about as small as the a6000, has the internal sensors/guts of the A7IV, but ALSO has the crazy AI autofocus capabilities of the A6700/A7rV. Hopefully, I'll be getting the additional detail over APS-C that I've been craving for years, while still being a compact, fun-to-use body.

[@Skux720]

Agreed. After going through all different GAS phases I've accepted that a pretty camera is pointless if it doesn't get the shot. Fuji retro dials look cool but there's a reason we now have finger dials and buttons and touchscreens, they're just faster. Couple that with ongoing AF issues and Fujifilm just doesn't perform well enough in the situations I need it to. I sold all my Fuji gear and it's such a relief to just hold down the AF-ON button on my Canon R6 and breeze through a photoshoot without fighting my camera.

[@OliverSchlecht]

…the Sony is just a tool… that is the truth about most of the brands. Fuji (and Leica) simply engage you to take the Cam with you because of size, weight, usability, design and passion

[@Diminish12]

What? Sony camera brand is just a tool but my camera brand is passion? Lol, you sound like a tool. From: Sony Fanboy.

[@HANKBRAVO81]

I kind of agree but once you start going XT5 route with a very big, fast prime, it’s actually quite a similar setup to an A7IV. A7C is actually much smaller and lighter. It’s hard to believe but it really is. But, the colours on Fuji are simply untouchable. There’s no right and wrong really. I’m very torn between this setup. Ideally, money no option, I’d have the Sony for jobs, and an X100 series for family and EDC haha.

[@POVwithRC]

​@@HANKBRAVO81Fancy finding you here. Fuji this time perhaps 👀

[@HANKBRAVO81]

@@POVwithRC MGS ‼️ Busted!! Window shopping haha. That bloody X100 series and your XE4 started all of this. True though, for EDC, it’s just the perfect size. Replaces the phone and makes it an event. But not paying these ludicrous prices with the new one en route soon. But then I do like my different focal lengths and Sony autofocus. Anyway, truly not in any rush. Work waggon getting squared away next month.

[@thepickyreviewer]

…and colors.

[@ASrikantVarma]

I sold my Sony a7IV with 24-70 f2.8, 16-35 f2.8, Tamron 70-180 f2.8, 85mm 1.4, 35mm f1.8 to Fuji used XT4 after watching your video, thanks man for motivating.

[@JaroslavBergl]

In retrospect ... how satisfied are you with the transition. Sony A7IV with such a set of lenses .. It must have been great

[@TimKrauseFilms]

Damn I got pretty much the same gear and cam, and I am here because i thinking about a switch to Fuji, to the xt4 haha. Tell me your experience please 🙏

[@kevin-sj3wt]

@@TimKrauseFilms why not xt-5??? i have old xt-20 and maybe i am going to upgrade someday

[@TimKrauseFilms]

@@kevin-sj3wt tbh, because I was thinking about to just hold the other stuff, that’s why a xt4, if I decide to sell my Sony stuff, then it would be a xt5 for sure

[@trackntrail2869]

Lol, I'm making the opposite transition now. Fuji X-T4 + 16-55/2.8, 23/1.4, 50-140/2.8 to Sony A7Cii + Tamron 28-75, Sony 35/1.8

[@TheAndroidFan98]

Did you ever consider the Nikon ZF? Seems to be the perfect blend between the retro feel of Fujifilm and the amazing capabilities of a modern full frame camera.. And the best thing is that you can easily adapt all your Sony lenses to Nikons Z mount 👍🏻

[@BenjaminKanarek]

Great vlog subject. I understood your dilemma, however...I just sold off all of my Full Frame Nikon gear, that is 4 FF bodies and 10 lenses. I use all Fujifilm now, that is 3 x GFX Medium Format cameras and 7 Fujifilm XT series bodies, i.e. 2 x XT3's, 2 x XT4's, 2 X XH-2's and a cute XT20 for street stuff. I also own 25 Fuji lenses. I sold my Nikon gear as I hadn't touched them in over 2 years. All of my pro shoots have been shot with Fujifilm of which 60% have been with the XT's and 40% with the GFX's. I was published in VOGUE and ELLE with the XT series and VOGUE, ELLE, GRAZIA and major advertorial campaigns with the GFX and XT's. I think most cameras today can do a great job and most are overkill.

[@howardlovecraft7155]

I'm going to follow you and subscribe

[@amermeleitor]

A year or so ago, I sold some Nikon things and start a conversation with the buyer, I commented about going mirrorless with Fuji, and the buyer told me that Fuji wasn't a good option for pro use, that Fuji is unreliable and nothing more than a toy.

[@chromaticvisuelle]

I love Sony, Nikon, Fuji. I worked with all 3. I sticked with Nikon because of the xqd, body feel, z lenses.

[@richbrook101]

@@amermeleitor who ever says Fuji is nothing more than a toy has 0 knowledge in photography

[@ZangLussuria]

Following your channel and IG. You've proven that it's the shooter and not the gear. There are those that pushed the ideology that you're only a professional if you use a full frame and up and look down at those that don't. Your work shows that on any modern camera, even APS-C, you can do pro work. Plus you've been published in major publications. I met a speaker at a ohotography event and he also showed his work for a major publocation and he use an old entry-level DSLR just to prove a point to the new ones that it isn't the gear first and foremost.

[@andreacristoforetti2061]

Beautiful to see someone so honest after having spent so much money and not needing to justify it's purchase, keep it up!

[@trezegol2007]

I switched to Fujifilm and Sony a couple of years ago, because I wanted to fulfill 2 dreams, own a Fuji camera, and buy my first FF camera. Started with an XT3 and Sony 7a3, added the XT4 a bit later. Although I indeed see my Sony having more technical capabilities in specific situations, I'd never wanted to miss my Fujifilm colors and simulations, and just the experience of holding such a camera in my hands. It always feels like first love every time a grab a Fuji camera, whereas when I take my Sony camera it is truly more for specific trips and situations, so it's more like an assignment than just the pleasure of doing photography. So I fully feel and agree with Tobis' thoughts and remarks here! Well done video!

[@richbrook101]

The film simulations recipes alone just make me want to shoot more and experiment with the colour. I think Fuji cameras just bring back a bit of that film shooting experience where the photos you should just require minimal processing. With other cameras, because of how chunky they are and how clinical every photo looks, it feels more like a chore

[@ernaveenverma]

I have also got into same trap, I have Fuji XT5 and Sony A7R4 with the curiosity of full frame. It took me a while to realize it's not the camera which is making a great shot but it's person holding the camera. Today 95% time I still use Fuji because I love the design with all the buttons easily accessible, compact design and it can do almost everything what my Sony camera can do and maybe better in many cases. Now selling my Sony gear will be a great loss because there is not much resale value so I am just keeping it for occasional usage.

[@theGiantAngryRobot]

I feel this in a big way. I tried canon and nikon dlsr cameras for many many years. Once I got my xt3 it changed my enjoyment of photography in such a profound way. Something about fuji recreates that excitement of the first time you picked up a camera over and over again

[@patrickhopkinson1851]

I use a Q2 and Olympus/ OM M4/3. I’ve also used an M11. Most of the time I can’t tell which photo was taken with which camera. “Full frame” isn’t an upgrade and smaller sensors aren’t second best. They are choices we make depending on our priorities. We don’t all have the same needs and preferences. I think its great that we have some much choice.

[@bob-rogers]

I have the A7s. My walking around lens is the Sony Zeiss 16-35/4. It's silly how little light it needs to take photos (especially with the oss). As someone who remembers how groundbreaking Kodak's p3200 was, this camera is simply magic. I've been using it with only silent shutter for over a year now. It seems to be flawless. The EFV gives you a visual confirmation of taking a photo by going black for a moment.

[@matthewryan9935]

Great video. I appreciate the perspective you provide because I think many fuji shooters are wondering what it would be like to switch.

[@MeAMuse]

Full frame just makes it easier to get a shot most the time and gives you the extra flexibility of an extra stop of light. The difference I found was that I could finally get good results out of a zoom lens. What I will say though is that sometimes restrictions help inspire creativity… the struggle helps us enjoy taking the photo more. I started on full frame with the original Sony A7 in 2014 (which definitely was a struggle) and I have had the same feeling as I have upgraded through the years. I am really thinking that all this technology is separating us from the process, and that’s why we are seeing people gravitate to systems like Fuji with all the manual dials, the Leicas, and why there has been such a surge back into film photography. Hope this makes sense…

[@ashtonal.2634]

How can full frame just make it easier to get a shot ? what kind of comment is that, please explain, no disrespect intended.

[@nicholassmith7723]

@@ashtonal.2634 There's a few reasons. Larger sensors (often) deliver more dynamic range for editing. Another significant advantage is depth of field. For example, an f2.8 lens on an aps-c body is equivalent to an f4 lens on a full-frame body. The same thing is true 'upgrading' from a full-frame camera to a medium format camera. Except medium format cameras are typically slower, bulkier and more expensive. Many photographers find full-frame to be the perfect balance. It's also the digital equivalent of 35mm film. Hope this helps.

[@richardmardex3014]

There are tradeoffs and accommodations regardless of format size. Also, as the technology advances, i.e., greater dynamic range, better low light capability, higher resolution, etc,. we are presented with choices as to whether at some point we are willing to go with gear that is more manageable in size and handling or rather choose larger gear that gives optimal IQ. As so many photographers rarely print their work but mostly share it online, there is a certain absurdity to working with 50 and 60 MP cameras that are twice the size of 35mm counterparts that we used in the film days. I realize that ultimately this argument may result on most of us photographing just with our phones, which may be a day coming rather soon. In any case, my bet is that we will see a trending towards the former as a matter of sheer practicality.@@nicholassmith7723

[@definingslawek4731]

In which way does fullframe have an extra stop of light? F1.8 is f1.8 on all formats. F1.8 on your phone is just as bright as f1.8 on fullframe. That's why when you set up your camera with the exact same settings as on your phone, you get an image of the exact same brightness.

[@ANTHONYFERNANDO]

Full frame does NOT give an extra stop of light. F 1.8 provides the same amount of light no matter the size of the sensor. With two sensors of exactly identical sensor technology, a larger sensor will have better noise levels at equivalent exposures, but not brighter. But as seen with things like the XH2s, not all sensors are created equal, and that camera competes with most FF for noise as well. Full frame being brighter is a misunderstanding of the physics.

[@Battlem0nk]

Went from X-T1 to X-H1 and now to A7RV. Actually wanted to stay Fuji. Been with them for over a decade. However, was tired of the poor AF performance and got super excited when the X-H2 was announced. People were raving it as finally Sony/Canon level. Went out to give it a whirl but conflicted. Yea, AF was way better, only because it was so bad, but not fully satisfying. Didn't feel polished. Most notably the AF green box always lagged behind the subject. Not as sticky. While standing at the store bummed about my experience I gave a Sony a try. "whuut..." the AF was so good. What have I been missing out all these years. Yup, now I am an owner of an A7RV and sold all my dozen Fuji lenses for half it's cost. A7RV felt like an X-H3 of the future made available today for more money. Better in every way. More MP, nicer IBIS, tilt+flip lcd, and AI AF that works perfectly. All the things people praise Fuji for I didn't care much of. Color science, retro look, tactile button/knobs, jpeg recipes film simulation, the aesthetic or inspiration. I'm geeky & just use the tool to get the shot I want then fiddle with the image on my laptop. Suppose I never really fit the Fuji hipster profile and was at heart more a techy Sony. Totally fine with being what people call "soul-less"

[@DigiDriftZone]

Yeh I want it to work, not have a “soul” whatever that means, the Fuji dials are useless and slow, adjusting simple things requires too many steps, the AF still sucks even if better it falls apart if the subject is a bit further away or if light conditions aren’t perfect, horrible corner wobble with wider lenses and the sensor high ISO noise and low light performance lag about 10 years behind full frame. I went from an X-S20 to a ZV-E1 and the dials are more precise and feel higher quality, the grip has more clearance so your knuckles don’t rub against the lens, it’s a sexy camera that’s so tiny but has the AI processor of the A7R5, the legendary sensor of the A7S3 with the firmware of an FX3 with other AI functionality, it’s so inspiring to pick this incredible machine knowing it has all this power and it’s still much smaller than the subpar APS-C Fuji bodies…

[@sharkpyro93]

"fuji hipsters" lmao pretty much sum it up whats going on the internet lately, i wanted to get into fuji after years of hiatus with an entry level canon dslr and wanted to get a cheap body in order to start collecting the lenses but the prices are just absurd, even for 10yrs old bodies at $600+, i gave up and went with sony

[@ivanpatriciovillanueva4500]

Makes sense, photography vs tech I guess

[@zoide-777]

@@DigiDriftZone The ZV-E1 is crazy expensive, though.

[@tonyjames2144]

@@DigiDriftZone Depends what you are shooting...Wddings/Events yeah Sony FF does the trick much easier than Fujifilm crop.But for street photography fujifilm x-pro 3 is a better tool in my opinion than any Sony camera and lets be honest Sony has the best AF but is known to have the nastiest color.But for fashion or Boudoir a Fujifilm GFX will knock the sox off the Sony a7r5 so in my opinion it really gets down to what you are shooting.

[@rohedron]

Enjoyed this video a lot, many thanks! It's very nicely made without being in any way over the top or showy. It says that despite your protestations otherwise, you in fact use these tools really very well. Also appreciated your understated but palpably humorous delivery.

[@mawavoy]

Sony has adaptable picture profiles that will give you JPEGS exactly as Fuji does. You just have to customize if you don’t like Sony’s picture profiles. Making your custom profiles is part of the camera experience . Fuji is more for the instant gratification user. Sony for the experimenter who is curious to know all the possibilities his camera is capable of delivering. The one area I dislike about Sony is that Canon has a much more comfortable feel in the hand.

[@TobisTings]

Thanks! I honestly haven't really played around with custom picture profiles on my sony at all. Maybe thats something I should get into.

[@mongini1]

i made the opposite switch. Went from an A7 III to Fuji X-T20 and a year ago the X-H2, and i'm not regretting it. On the Sony my favorite Lens was the Sigma 135mm 1.8, now i got the 75mm 1.2 on the Fuji. I get very comparable results, and the lens only half of the weight and price. I don't do a lot of Video, but what i get out of the X-H2 is very decent, since it's 4k is downsampled from 8k. Instead of LOG i made a custom image Profile which i use both for video and stills, so i get consistant results and can put images into a video and they dont look out of place. The only thing i'm missing is the low light performance, but i got to work around that with f/1.4 and f/1.2 lenses. All in all, 4 years after the switch, i'm still happy with my Fuji setup, especially for the film simulations. I shoot RAW+HEIF, but rarely using the RAW files, because the HEIF/JPEG's are just that good. On the Sony i definitely spent more time processing than now. So another thing on the plus side.

[@brompterdam]

A month ago with the 2023 Winter Deals, I sold my main camera Fujifilm X-T1 , XF 16f2.8, XF 23f2 & XF 35f2 and use the money to buy a brand new Lumix S5 + S20-60 f3.5-5.6 and S50 f1.8 for less than the Fujifilm X-T5 Body alone. I am blown away. I love everything about this S5. The only issue I have is the weight but it is compensated by how good and feature packed the camera is. Fully Weather sealed too. Will use this for my gig. For an EDC, I sold my travel camera Lumix GX8 & Leica DG 12-60 f2.8-4 and bought a mint condition Nikon Z50 with Z 16-50mm, Z 50-250mm and Z 28mm f2.8 without extra expense ( under €1000 super deal ) from 2nd hand market and I will say, the way I love my X-T1 is the way I love my Z50 now, maybe more ( I don't feel the same for my GX8 ). The Z50 Jpegs are awesome too without editing, although I did tweak the in-camera color setting to my liking. The amount of 3rd partly lens are also a lot. I don't see myself expanding both my kit further right now and I don't see any reasons to go back to Fujifilm as well. Thanks for the video!

[@AleksandrDederer]

A long time ago I started my photography journey with one of the Lumix camera. After two years I switched to Nikon and 10 years later switched again but to Canon. For now I'm not satisfied and dreaming about Fuji camera. Maybe I need to take a step back and return to the roots? To the Lumix? :)

[@brompterdam]

​@@AleksandrDederer My problem with Fujifilm is I ended up copying other peoples composition and simulations. My transition is not easy as well but every time I look at the Jpeg of the S5, I am so satisfied. Full Frame renders differently. I am a Full Frame snob before until I owned one.

[@johngreenwood9247]

Great Video. In many ways confirms my view that changing camera/systems does not necessarily improve the images or enjoyment in the photographic experience. At various times I've been a freelance photographer, but have always retained an interest in photography as a hobby. Now long retired I can recall the problems of obtaining sharp well exposed images and hours in the darkroom to achieve them! Many cameras now regarded as classics, such as the Leica screw cameras, the Mamiya twin lens reflexes, & the various Bronicas, and some early Nikon F's, were a pain to operate and results, better than those achievable using the more mundane/cheaper cameras of the day we're often hard to come by. However what often made it all worthwhile, was the user experience, and which camera made you want to go out and take the shot, where cameras like the Leica IIIf & Summitar lens, really excelled! Today's digital mirror less cameras are so good, and great images are so readily achievable. The law of diminishing returns still applies, and changing cameras/systems is so expensive that you really want to ensure that the "new" camera/lens not only performs significantly better than your existing item or gives you greater satisfaction in use. Recently I became dissatisfied with my Fujifilm X-H2 photographic experience and looked to change possibly to the Leica Q or SL system. I've been with Fuji "X" since 2014, and knew the "move" would be expensive. In the end I decided that the Leica experience would be different, but hardly better. I remembered how much I enjoyed the original form factor and relative lightness of the X-Pro1 encouraged me to go out and take photos. Somehow the X-H2, however good the results just didn't inspire me in the same way - being excellent was not good enough! It was only then I realised that my X-Pro2, although not nearly such a capable camera was the camera I needed - one that I could truly love...

[@ramouflard]

Well said. Having joy using the camera is way under rated. That's what make you wanna take picture in the first place. I've been a long time fuji user for both professional and personal stuff, with the xt10 and xt2 + the usual prime lenses. But I've got a friend who works at Sony and had some internal sales going on with insane deals on Cameras... Basically 30% cheaper than used market. Too good to pass especially because video became big part of my paid gigs. Got the A7iii, the 24-70 2.8, 16-35 2.8, 70-200 f4, 35mm 1.8, 55mm 1.8, 85mm 1.4. Thing is I never enjoyed shooting them. It yielded nice results of course but I missed the fuji experience and lot. It became a tool. The EVF also sucked and colors weren't great in camera, making you feel like your were taking crappy pictures only to find out in post that the files were great... A rather stressful experience imo. I just decided to sell most of the gear for an xt4 that go for cheap and that covers my video needs. I'll keep a few Sony lenses around as my friend will most likely have some more deals in the future and I can test stuff out. As a sidenote, the only lens that really made me kind of enjoy picking up the sony was the lightweight Zeiss 35mm f2.8. Tiny, with a lot of character. Oh and the ricoh GR IIIX also rocks in its on way :) .

[@djoaniel]

Your story is relatable and inspirational. I had the recent realization after obtaining a full frame about the value of shooting because of the experience, and not because of the output. Thank you for sharing your story.

[@josep6673]

I have had 9 Fujifilm Digital cameras in the last 7 years. I started falling in love with the X100S, and I haven't switched brands since then. Always opting for second-hand cameras, and I've never lost money when selling them. I'm captivated by their design and the colors of their jpeg files.

[@thisiserich]

I bought the xt5 after selling my a7iv for the exact reason you mentioned. I was never excited to use it. It feels like it has no soul. I never felt like taking it with me. I used to shoot on Fuji awhile ago and I started really missing it. Shooting on Fuji just feels different. I love it.

[@neildickie6278]

I much enjoyed your articulate presentation of both types of camera. It was admirably well balanced and objective, yet somehow also contained substantial points both pro and con on each side. your presentation was in no way wishy-washy. Ha, ha--I can relate to the shutter-sound problem. I once tried out a Sony A7 (I or II) and when I heard the metallic, grinding shutter sound, that was the end for me. But to the main point: my two cents is that you have made an very good decision. I worked several summers for a master carpenter, and he told me that he found it very worthwhile to always buy the best quality tools. I have followed his example in the camera world, as you did, moving from APSC to full frame. I feel it has been a huge help in my development as a photographer. It was a big morale booster for me because it so obviously enabled me to take better photos with less effort. I often take photos in low light, or need to use a narrow aperture on a cloudy day to get good depth of field, and the ability to shoot at higher ISO's with much less of a hit on image quality has been huge. And I much appreciate the improved autofocus, especially since I moved to the Canon R5. I am sure that you will continue to feel good about your investment as you continue to benefit from one of the best imaging tools available. Perhaps your next Sony full frame will have a more soothing sound!

[@alanbuckley6679]

As someone who has done the same process, I agree with your sentiments when you say that Fuji is more fun than the soulless but capable Sony. I used to love the XT3 as a travel camera. The user experience, weight and size of the smaller Fuji is hard to beat!

[@nicolasheinemusic]

Started out with a Sony A7C, bought another A7IV and could not stop buying lenses for it. I never had the "feeling" of a Fuji or a Leica, so I don't know what you are talking about - all I know is that I am very passionate about taking photos with my A7IV 🙂 Why not with the A7C? I kinda found out about the importance of a good viewfinder, when taking photos - not videos. The A7C now is my videocamera only.

[@paulwoolfries3101]

Great video! I've recently done the reverse. I've used Nikon for years (D60, D7200, D780, Z6II) and had a Fuji X-T3 for a few year for casual shots (travel/street etc). I have been fustrated a lot with the Z6II, with it's general feel and it's shocking AF though and so did struggle with it a lot. I upgraded X-T3 to the X-T5 a year ago, which I found I ended up using for almost everything. I then decided to take the mad jump and sold all my Nikon gear and got the X-H2S along with the 100-400mm lens a few month back. I find it excellent for sport and wildlife shots and the X-T5 works great for almost everything else. Because they use virtually the same menu system makes the operation flow for me and I now have a very decent selection of zoom lenses that are obviously switchable between them both. I know what you mean about the difference between Full frame and APS-C, especially with low light, and I'm still temtped to get a Nikon Z7 purely for landscape, but I don't know how I can hide gear that from my partner 🙂

[@BenjaminKanarek]

Sounds like my voyage...see above.

[@mortenthorpe]

Yeah, the Nikon Z system is a real letdown… specifically the z6 I… my worst investment in cameras bar-none! The worst part about the Nikons are, that they really did not embrace the possibilities enabled by mirrorless - having fixed size limited autofocus point and zone options is… just so… unambitious! The X-H2S and the GFX are really enjoyable to shoot and they perform! For smaller street style I settled on the Ricoh GRIIIx… what a gem!

[@mortenthorpe]

Full frame versus apsc is so overrated! You mostly just get to buy more expensive lenses, and carry more weight, for not much difference! Full frame versus medium format… different story… maybe because medium format is just so much better than anything else… my GFX are amazing… also the now really cheap GFX50R

[@houserhythm]

We talk in FF/35mm equivalent because it's a standard by which we can compare FoV between systems, not because FF is the goal. The goal is different for everyone, depending on what/how/in what conditions they shoot. I switched from FF (and not some old outdated camera, but A7R V and A1) to MFT (OM-1) and I am still happy with my decision 9 months later. Are some aspects worse? Of course. But there is no perfect camera, or camera system, there are compromises to be made, no matter what you buy and how much you spend. Also what's stopping you from creating a custom picture profile on the Sony, just like you did on the Fuji?

[@Abdullah-Al-Noman-i7d]

I really like your honest opinion. Most guys in youtube only talk about specs and marketing stuffs. But you spoke about feelings which matters to me most.

[@Helix_Bonopart]

Appreciate your honest thoughts. I’m the opposite. I have Sony full frame and and curious to try Fuji for what I imagine is a more fun easy experience that gets beautiful photos with out messing around in Lr and Ps

[@randomshitplaylist]

A simple way to do this would just to stick to your sony system, and get a x100vi. That way you get to mess about with fuji system and the filters etc without having to commit and selling everything.

[@timothylinn]

This is really well done. I appreciate the candor. I switched from Fuji back to Canon a few years ago and I can relate to your ambivalence. There are lots of things about my R5 that are better. But there are definitely features that are more sophisticated on the Fuji. The biggest thing I miss though is actually the Fuji online communities filled with amazing photos that I wished I had taken myself. And such enthusiasm. Canon online communities seem filled with super-sharp photos of boring subjects. And so many photos of birds. Ugh. I can't afford to switch back either. I probably wouldn't anyway. Probably.

[@laurormrz]

Nice video. I can really relate to a lot of what you said about Sony. I had a Fuji X-T2 with several lenses and was very happy with it, but was always curious about Full Frame. I finally caved and purchased a Sony A7III, which is a great camera by all means. I also picked up the Sony 24mm GM, which really is an incredible lens, but in the end after the shine wore off the A7III, I just didn’t find any real joy in using it. Like you said, it felt more like a “tool,” and not something I wanted to grab and go shoot photos with. More and more, the A7III would sit on my shelf while the old X-T2 was the camera I was walking out the door with, even though the Sony outperformed it in every technical way. I ended up selling all my Sony gear and still have my X-T2 today. There really is something special about Fuji, despite all its quirks and flaws.

[@theinfinitepassportTV]

this is me precisely. I never liked the clinical nature of Sony

[@josephinevera9966]

I love the XT2 some of my favorite images were taken with that camera. I only recently “upgraded” to the XT3.

[@laurormrz]

@@josephinevera9966 Me as well. I have a Canon R6 now, which I really enjoy, but my X-T2 still gets plenty of love and use. And it’s built like a tank!

[@shy-guy5544]

I am very satisfied with my XT3 and see no reason to upgrade at this time.

[@salarycat]

That’s actually very useful testimony. As an enthusiast Fuji user, I’m also eyeing going full frame at some point. The advantages of yesterday’s aps-c are evaporating. In terms of price they’re close, and Sony’s a7c is actually smaller than the x-t. The full frame f1.8 lenses are f1.2 equivalent and are cheaper… so what’s keeping me at aps-c? Like you, I feel the experience matters and I like the tactile traditional dials. Also I got all the lenses I needed and now it’s really not easy to start over. And as an enthusiast, I will never go for those $3k f1.2 lenses that take full advantage of the sensor. But in general the low light advantages of full frame are indisputable, and they do seem to produce better quality photos in general.

[@scorpio9200]

Thank you for the genuine opinions for those 2 systems! It's really helpful

[@apamacam4838]

As someone who has switched from Fuji to Canon FF, I can related to most of what you said in this video. Haivng said that, I just don't get the feel or understand the 'fun factors' that people has been talking about using Fuji cameras (I have owned XT1, XT2, XT20 and still has the XT3). The fun and excitement for me when using a camera is that the Autofocus works when I need it to and not hunting back and forth for focus during critical moments and makes me always second guessing if the last shots I've taken was in focus or not. But I can't deny the fact that, it is nice to use Fuji as the leisure camera when reliable continuous AF is not needed, due to it's much smaller size and weight.

[@danielschmaderer]

I’ve shot Nikon both APS-C and Full frame and switched to the Fuji XT5. In terms of image quality, I absolutely LOVED my Nikon files. To this day, I go back to my old photos and they still blow me away. But I gotta say, the XT4 made me the photographer I am today. Getting the XT5 helped with every gripe I had with my former XT4.

[@michaelaiello5229]

I really enjoy your videos Tobis! And this was a particularly honest and insightful perspective on what many non-pro, but serios photographers like myself, go through. Sometimes satisfying the GAS is just what we need to make us appreciate what we already have. Like most, I have a limited budget. But I typically keep my older gear instead of trading it in, even if that means waiting longer for a new purchase. Lately I have rekindled my love affair with my old 2014 Fuji XT1. Shame on me for ever thinking I needed anything more to take better photos. It was, and still is, the perfect camera for my style of photography. And I'm glad I still have it...

[@pepetrueno8722]

You recorded the most honest dilema we all face. We are all tying to shoot the best images that we can and fall prey to the marketing of manufacturers who suggest we will take better pictures if we use X lens or Y camera

[@chrisschuller7055]

Such an honest and nice review! Loved it. ❤

[@joshuathomas4934]

sony makes such good cameras. idk who designs them or what it takes to develop the tech. But they just know what you need and what you dont. i appreciate that a lot

[@toon1446]

Subbed, such a honest & straight to point video.

[@benejpocock]

Brilliant video. I'm coming back to photography after a few years out and a deciding what system to go with. I had the A7iv on hire last weekend (with the 24-70 f2.8GM), and this weekend I have the X-H2 with the 16-55 red label (or whatever Fuji call their top lenses) and also the 23mm f1.4 R LM WR. I agree entirely with your points - I think the Sony is a 'better' camera, but the Fuji is definitely more fun to use, which means I'm going to pick it up and go and shoot. With two young kids time is precious, and I found I was having to tweak everything out of the Sony before sharing it, whereas with Fuji, I'm shooting raw+jpeg, usually with a film simulation applied, and I'm sharing straight from the camera - it's so refreshing! Yes the Sony AF is stickier than the Fuji, but as you rightly say, it's nowhere near as bad as a lot of content online makes out, at least not for my use case. Obviously there are loads more pros and cons of both systems, and each person will have different wants and desires, but in summary I’d say the Sony is a Porsche - solid and utterly dependable. You know it's going to excel at everything you ask of it. The Fuji is a Ferrari - an amazing bit of kit but it’s going to make you work to get the best out of it and might let you down every now and then.

[@jamesbarron5590]

The whole “Sony doesn’t have a soul” is tired and a personal thing. I buy cameras to take pictures, not to make me look cool or to inspire me. The places I go and the people I am with is what inspires me to shoot. I do get excited with new gear and new lenses but having a camera with me matters more than what it looks like. I own both Sony and Fujifilm cameras and really enjoy both. I have always had Sony and currently have an a7c and an a7iv and fujifilm x-e4 and x-pro3. I enjoy the shooting experience with Fujifilm but still prefer the results I get from Sony. I end up editing the film simulations anyway and eventually got tired of trying new recipes. The hunt for the best recipe became exhausting so I just edit instead. The x-pro3 is a beautiful camera but I care more about enjoying the process, being able to capture moments and be confident that the results will be sharp and in focus a majority of the time. You can say it is user error but there are somethings I can count on from Sony. It might not feel like a “soul” to some but it feels like a buddy I can always count on to me.

[@fivefivesix-sevensixtwo4114]

The whole video is basically saying his Sony camera is too good therefore it lacks soul and he misses the shutter sound of the Fuji. I take my Sony A7IV everywhere. I've gotten it wet, full of snow, dirt and sand. Right now it still has dirt from the last time I went to the mountains. It's a workhorse and I enjoy using it because I actually go out and take pictures of my adventures. I'm not worried about "soul" or if I look cool with it. It's not always about the process of taking the photo. Most of the time, it's me wanting to quickly capture a moment and go right back to living the moment before it ends instead of tinkering with non customizable dials and poor autofocus because I wanted a camera with soul.

[@shira_yone]

@@fivefivesix-sevensixtwo4114 honestly this video is pretty grating to listen to even for a typical broke amateur who doesn't care too much about the results of shots (like me) as well. Man starts off the video rambling about his insecurity of not having muh _"full frame image quality"_ and proceed to give backhanded "praise" for the "inferior" camera in the latter half of the video. He didn't even mention value per cost, lighter weight and typically more compact size of smaller sensor cameras that makes them less of a hassle to carry around. Facts that might actually "inspire" someone to take more pictures just from the added convenience alone, and not vague "feeling" and "soul" that pretentious people often spout.

[@kevinloy6435]

@@shira_yone you nailed it. Dumb video

[@ferrers21]

About 18 months ago I moved from an XT3 and traded in for a Original Sony A9 I had found i was struggling with action photography with Fuji and have been nothing but impressed with the AF of the A9 I missed the film simulations of the Fuji and the video functions aren’t the up the Xt3 but as a predominantly stills photographer couldn’t be happier!

[@BP-xe7dw]

We all are attached to our cameras for different reasons. History is one of them. You mentioned the beautiful images you created with Fuji. The growth as a photographer is part of creating memories with the tool you use. I know, I have original Sony A7. I tried others, I miss it. It will always be with me. I got other cameras and they do a better job or are easier to use. Really good recount of your experience.

[@janradtke8318]

Just went the other way from a Nikon D850 / Z7 to an XT-5. Very happy overall. Much lighter (and cheaper) and having the exposure triangle as a ‚mechanical‘ application is something I really like. Quality wise I don‘t see big differences to my F-lenses (Z-lenses are better though). There is a little more noise at high ISO. Having a greater depth of field is as often an advantage as it is a disadvantage. Overall I would say, that in the printed picture you don‘t see a difference - and definitely not on Instagram.

[@chromaticvisuelle]

I have both too but I just love my z lenses way more than my fuji lenses.

[@mos3134]

I will stick with my Fujifilm X-T4s and prime lenses, as I was about to make a switch just for the sake of bigger sensor and better af. Thanks for your honest review

[@brandonleggins1237]

In certain scenarios, it can be and sometimes preferred by many, to have a cropped sensor camera. Many wildlife photographers prefer cropped sensors because you have a longer reach.

[@bloodswarms]

I love my A7 IV. I've never shot jpeg or wanted to, so I just don't get it, when it comes to that. When you said that with the Sony you lose the 'fashion aspect' of having a camera, I felt like you gave away the hidden hipster chalice for a second. I've always felt the photographer puts the soul into the camera, and not the other way around. Before I got the A7 IV, I had a Nikon D80, which I bought in 2008 or so. It had a lot of limitations (no video, relatively low megapixel, all the hangups of a CCD sensor) and many people would think of it as ugly. While I have nostalgia attached to it and would never sell it, I also always just saw it as a tool, a means to an end. I only upgraded last year to the A7 IV because I actually needed more sensor resolution and video capability. I still use the Nikon as a second camera for BTS stuff for my projects because it's still a perfectly capable camera even after all these years. That's it, though: They're just cameras, and they're nothing without the person. My only criticism of the Sony A7 IV would the menus. I get around some of that with the desktop app when I shoot tethered and a bit with the mobile app. But the menus are a bit of a drag.

[@bloodswarms]

@@cristibaluta I wonder if you were a painter, if you would settle for nothing less than the most beautiful palette knife. Or the most beautiful brush. I'm happy with having versatile tools that work. The art comes from the artist.

[@cristibaluta]

@@bloodswarms Hardly a good comparison, for such cheap items it doesn't really matter

[@Amcacs5654]

You should have seen the menus on the A7iii. The menus are vastly improved on the A7iv.

[@ElementaryWatson-123]

Got Sony A7Cii. Sold it after a few months, can't live with those colors.

[@tobi_ki]

That is the best summary of the struggle with the "fuji feeling" I have ever read. There are cameras that are way better tools, with a huge lack of That inspirational and fun feeling using a fuji, especially the T series. My way was Nikon Apsc, Nikon ff, Sony Apsc, Sony A7III, Panasonic MFT, and finally Fuji. And it feels like the end of a long way in search of the "right" camera. No Raw anymore, just jpegs with recipes and little adjustments in post. jpeg is more capable for post processing than you might think, if you give it a try. But still, there are these days, when the AF is slow and picky in finding the subject, when the light is against you and you know the foto is too noisy to crop in enough... then I miss my Sony.

[@zigaturkfgg]

Thank you for this. You said it. For many of us amateurs it is not about getting the photo, it is about taking the photo. Fuji makes you want to do it. However, they should fix the autofocus anyway.

[@ray_han_ls]

Great video and totally relate to it. But bro you gotta do something with the voice audio editing....ive fallen asleep a few times with the deep monotonous sound

[@winngh]

As a pro I still shoot only apc cameras and not once has anyone complained about what I use and if there is one camera I would love to shoot with, it’s Fuji. Just love their colours and hope to get one soon.

[@adammbrooks]

What a fantastically well thought out and well articulated video. Thanks for this!

[@sebs247]

The chokehold that the Canon 70D (and 80D) and Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 had on the KZbin community in those years! I also had one as my first major camera investment! Now I'm Fuji XH2S and I absolutely love it.

[@reytampubolon6390]

Thanks for making this video. Most videos would talk about switching from Sony to Fuji and boast about the „feel“ and „soul“ aspect, without giving Sony a fair chance to even show their own superior capability when it comes to sensor size, low light performance, and straight up sharpness. I now mainly use Fujifilm for everything, like personal documentation, trips, as well as more ‚serious‘ works like portraits and events. And i love it due to how small, beautiful, and light the whole setup is. But when i‘m doing paid concerts or weddings, i always wish for lower noise and even better editing flexibility.

[@ASrikantVarma]

I sold my my Sony a71v and a7r with lenses & switched to Fujifilm.

[@toke7560]

I did the same thing. BUT, to olympus.Couldn't be happier.

[@KaptainKerl]

but now you don't have the same camera as every single photo youtuber

[@mpoyck]

@@toke7560which model?😊

[@pz4065]

@@KaptainKerlThat‘s why they are single… 😂

[@xedslo]

OMG I'm so happy I watched your video! I came to exactly same conclusion. I went from 5d mk3 to XT-2 (and I loved that camera) and then switched to Sony (a73 and later to a74), because of video. I regret selling that X-T2 so much... It gave me such joy just holding that camera... so much fun..

[@ucmenteith]

I appreciate your self awareness about how your emotions played into your purchasing decisions. Alle Achtung!

[@don7117]

I made a somewhat similar shift from the X-T1 and X-H1 to the A6000 and A7R2. My biggest reason was I like to crop and I wanted the larger images so I could crop and still have a good sized image for large prints. Something I discovered as a bonus is the better resolution of foliage by the Sony. I always found my Fuji's to perform poorly with greens and yellows - particularly foliage and grass. The Sony is far better at foliage. I loved the Fuji cameras, but I am happy with the switch, and I haven't suffered the least bit of GAS as far as upgrading from the A7R2. It produces beautiful images, and I shoot mostly static stuff so I don't need better AF, so it's the perfect kit for me. And the A6000 is an amazing little camera that I put a pancake-ish lens like my Rokinon 24mm f2.8 on and I have something approximating a point-n-shoot that gives great photos for travel and street photography. I had been with Sony before switching to Fuji, and I am glad to be back.

[@Raaf_81]

A very honest video about those differences. I love the way Fuji is presented, I think it is a very good tactile experience and the Fuji colors are amazing. Sony feels more like a computer, but I am used to that after extensive use of a ZV-1. I got used to the Sony menu which alot of people hate, programmed heavily used functions to the custom buttons. I made it more tactile with manual lenses and I have to say I really enjoy that combo, the RAW files are great. But if I ever buy a new system for photography it will probably be a Fuji. I will give my Sony to my daughter who is now shooting with a Fuji Finepix F100FD from 2008, which makes really nice retro pictures.

[@scotth7129]

Just found this vid because I have a Sony a7iv and a Fuji and I just like the Fuji colors so much more. Regarding the silent shutter. I use this a good bit to take photos of orchestra stage performances where silence is critical. One MAJOR downside of the electronic shutter is that you cannot utilize anti-flicker shooting unless you are using mechanical shutter. So I often end up with shadow banding due to the LED lights.

[@MrPedalpaddle]

I’m heavily invested in Sony gear, which I intend to keep, but I am probably going to buy a Fuji XT-30ii & 27mm f2.8 just for some street fun. The Fuji. kit won’t cost more than a Sony FF lens!

[@militarymodellerpaul5932]

I had full Nikon frame but I converted over XT1, and went to the XT5 and love it.

[@Erinndraper]

Nice video. I recently bought the A7iv and the colour science for me is the main thing I would like to see improved

[@AStCG1989]

We have been on the same journey - minus the Leica Q2.. what Fuji taught me was to appreciate quality glass. Where we diverge in opinion is I put more emphasis in the glass than the body.. I love my 24, 35 85 and 135 gm glass… the body is a tool.

[@capnoddy1905]

I was a guy switching from Sony to Fuji previously. I can surely feel the capability of the Sony Cameras, but every time I have to post processing every photo But as you have said, the Fuji cameras just gave me the process of shooting photos and the SOOC photos are just marvellous. And now I have abandoned post processing most of the time unlesss I have some high DR photos like some landscape shots. Another thing is that most of us can take great photos using smartphone right now, skipping all of the process but still gave you decent results. If I have to take a camera with me, I surely will only take the Fuji out.

[@GerritADHS]

12:32 Oh, I‘m totally on your side when it comes to Sony vs. Fuji. My journey was Canon 500D ➡️ Canon 6D ➡️ Olympus OM-D ➡️ Sony A7 II ➡️ Fuji X-T2 + X100F ➡️ Sony A7C + A6400 and now I bought an X-Pro 1 for street photography and I’m Fuji addicted again so I’m thinking about switching to X-H2 plus X-Pro 3. The color science is just so much more loveable and emotional. But so is Leica’s color science. Some friends of mine shoot Leica and the JPGs, especially in black and white are pure gold. Anyways, nice video. Thanks for letting us into your thoughts.

[@scottcunningham1291]

Great perspective and spot on about Sony. They are really just a tool, but they are the best tool. Also please clean your sensor! 😁

[@natascha4475]

I was thinking long and hard about switching from a Nikon D500 to a Sony Alpha III. Then on a rather impulsive decision, I changed my mind and got a Fujifilm X-T5. Before buying I had tried my friends Sony Alpha III and just didn't like the experience. Also for the first time, I really tried a prime lens because of the focus peaking settings on the X-T5. I know the Sony would've had that too and maybe would've had the better autofocus but taking photos with Fuji was fun again while with the Nikon it always felt like a chore to take it with me because of the weight and size. Now I'm running around with my X-T5 and a Zeiss Jena Tessar 50mm f2.8 as an everyday setup just because even with the adapter, it's very portable. Also i LOVE the dials and buttons on Fuji! I got the lens for 35 dollars on a flea market and it made my approach to Photography more methodical and "slow". Now I take time to compose the image in my head before shooting and I'm giddy to get home and fire up Lightroom. Only after buying I also thought about what I like to photograph. I like to get close to my subjects and i like testing how far i can go with this so APS-C I'm technically already closer to the subject so i was like 'yay, I like that.'

[@timhedrick8321]

Your side track was my favorite part of the review. Appreciate your in-depth explanations.

[@The_Essential_Light]

I totally agree with everything you said. I only use my Sony A7RV for professional jobs where I need the best image quality. On a daily basis and to shoot for fun, I take my Fuji X100V or Ricoh GR3. The A7RV stays home most of the time. I also have the Sony 24mm 1.4 along with the 24-105 f4. I would never get rid of those two lenses.

[@kentao4]

I sold my 24-105 for the 24-70 gmii. Def should’ve kept it as I ended up getting the a7cii for more edc and travel and would like to have a cheaper zoom to roll around with

[@The_Essential_Light]

@@kentao4 I have never aspired to have a 24-70 or 28-70. I think the 24-105 is a much more versatile lens. I have never wished it was a 2.8. I own the 24mm 1.4, the 55mm 1.8 and the 85mm 1.8. I recently got the Viltrox 75mm 1.2 which is an APSC lens , so on my A7RV still gives a 26mp file.

[@kentao4]

@@The_Essential_Light I mostly shoot at 26 anyway but to your point, the pictures for me were worth the upgrade. I just mean for a travel and good carry lens, I shouldve just kept the 24-105. I love the 85 1.8 and also own the 50, 35 and 20. They all make a nice small edc with the a7cii.

[@DigiDriftZone]

But why not an a7c2 with a 35mm f2 or something, it’s basically as small as the Fuji but way faster lens, better ibis, way better autofocus, way better video modes and you can use the more compact lenses from your A7R5?

[@DanaPushie]

Excellent video Tobis, on a number of different levels. My main workhorse is a Canon APS-C camera which works very well, most of the time, but is rather a soulless devise. I can generally get it to do what I want, but it does not inspire me. It is a tool nothing more. On the other hand, I recently bought a ten year old Fujifilm X-T1 because it excites me when I use it. It looks, feels and sounds great, takes great photos. I think all cameras have faults, but with the Fuji, I couldn't care less. Using it is fun. I'm having a ball. Your video stands out amongst the crowd for your clear analysis of the gear and your apparently fearless self examination. Bravo.

[@johnstinchcombe1811]

You nailed it… for the same reason (but in the “opposite” direction), I bought an X-E2 to discover what the fuss is about. My regular camera is a Sony a7m3 and I find that I’m grabbing the X-E2 for day to day shots and short vacations. A very enjoyable post and thanks for sharing it.

[@jackmccourt6180]

I have just done a similar thing. I had an a6400 and am just getting into doing wedding photography. I have always lusted after a full frame camera and had that chip on my shoulder as I have always shot on crop sensors. Since I wasn't doing it professionally I couldn't justify the costs. However, now I am doing it professionally the tipping point for me was the lack of dual cards on my a6400, which I need for doing weddings... because screw being that guy that loses a whole wedding to a corrupt sd card! I just recently got my a7iv and 35-150mm tamron lens. Other than the SD cards the biggest differences for me were the ergonomics being much better, bokeh is a lot easier at wider angles (I found myself having to artificially add it in lightroom sometimes on my a6400 if I was using my 17-70 tamron and wasn't zoomed in enough) and then the low light performance really is a jump up. It's also handy having ibis so I'm not restricted to OSS lenses or just going without. It's also nice not having to do the crop factor conversion in my head all the time when thinking about lenses. Crop sensor cameras really did me fine over the years and I always tried to convince myself that I just didn't need full frame, despite that chip on my shoulder. But now I have it I'm glad I took the plunge. Having said that, fuji crop sensor cameras are a bit more fleshed out than my a6400. Had I been on fuji and already in that ecosystem, I likely wouldn't have switched as I wouldn't have been forced to by the sd card restriction.

[@cobus770105]

Thanks for your honest and subjective review. It's good to hear a personal review of why and how you thought about the process.

[@MICHELE_et_LANCE]

You are spot on! I have both systems for personal use. I only take the Sony out when I need to get the shot when shooting events for friends. I do like the full frame look and can see the difference in my photos. There's more pop. Overall, I prefer the feel, shooting experience and jpg colours of Fuji which helps me spend a lot less time in post. I can't justify the cost of Sony's expensive and heavy lenses.

[@Root_066]

I moved from Nikon Z full frame to Fuji APC only because I am not able to carry the heavy gear of Nikon during my solo travelling. But no match with easiness of using Nikon. I feel many photographers who used Sony share similar kind of opinion as you said. I would suggest you try Nikon full frame, and that you most probably will love it. Nikon lenses do magic even with a non-professional very basic photographer like me. As you mentioned, I love the classic filmy output Fuji gives me though. But missing Nikon's fantastic lens range.

[@A1000Truths]

Great video! I'm lucky that I own a Sony, Fuji & Leica. Usually I grab the Leica or Fuji. Both provide different experiences but the key is that both inspire me to want to go shoot. I usually grab the Sony on bigger photo projects. I think the Fuji X-T5 definitely has hit a nice spot for me. It's like a small Sony A74 but with Fuji color science.

[@BEASTxMODE]

I got rid of my XT4 and X100V and kept my A7C + Voigtlander 35mm and 50mm lenses. Never looked back. It’s the perfect combination of portability and awesome image quality 🔥

[@DaltonMirklestein]

OMG, terrible decision 👎

[@Moshe_Dayan44]

@@DaltonMirklestein He doesn't seem to think so, which is what matters.

[@DaltonMirklestein]

@@Moshe_Dayan44 Well, what matters to me is offering my opinion. Like I said before, I believe it was a terrible decision. Also, a message to you, fella. This is the comment section, people leave comments which sometimes contradict.

[@j5daniel182]

change your Sony A7iv to an A7CR . and buy small G lens set (aside from your GM F1.4 sets). You can then sell off your Q2 as well.

[@tiarebowman]

loved your honesty. great video, i share a lot of similar feelings but with canon instead of sony! absolutely LOVE fuji

[@robertschwarz8702]

The great marketing machine and the hype. Can anyone resist that curiosity? I also had excellent APSC cameras, Canon M6ii and R7, Sony a6700. I have tried FF with the Canon RP, R6, and R6ii. I hated the big size and expensive lenses. Now I just got the a7cr and I think I found the right camera for me. Small size, FF 61mp, allowing me to crop for wildlife and a crop mode of 26mp, so I can travel light with my excellent crop lenses. Two cameras in one, no more itch. The new Sony's with AI and the XR chip are game changing.

[@RHoveyFamily1]

Nicely articulated, informative, and interesting! I went from Nikon to Sony and for some time now have shot with the A7R, A5100, RX10, and RX100. Love em all, but the fun of shooting Fuji and the reputation for sharp photos from these cameras piqued my curiosity so I got an X-T10, then upgraded to an X-T30. Just love it, different shooting experience, and I use it as much as my Sony cams.

[@Jwitherow1964]

This was indeed a good video, I think you hit home with 99% of photographers, we all fall into the allure of the camera industry strategically marketed, I at one time in my life had to settle for crop sensors, and only dream on a full frame then it was the Nikon d700, But things changes with my bank, acc. so I have been around the block, now I have 5 different systems I just love the hunt for the perfect camera, Good job with video. God bless.

[@GeorgiBonchev87]

With cameras, as well as any other tool, it depends on the use. If it is for a professional use, then capability, results, consistency and ROI matter the most. You will use what you are confident with longer and upgrade only when necessary. For hobby, feel, look, sooc results will prevail for most people. Also, there is higher susceptibility to marketing. For me, FF has only one advantage - ultra wide angle lens performance. But I use it for interior and architecture. I guess portrait or sports shooters might have some other criteria.

[@GregBrecker]

I get the passion and aesthetic of the camera giving rise to a greater sense of enjoyment derived from using it. As you say the visual cues, feel of the controls, and pleasing sound of the shutter of the Fuji, find a place in your mind to coalesce and trigger your mind to prompt an almost tangible feeling to find, compose or create a desired image with it. That said what I find helpful is to add a piece of artisan gear, unique off brand. Specifically to focus on one or two of the highlights of your camera, ibis, image size, 10 bit video, etc to recapture the mind body connection, hopefully to elicit even more beautiful images. 😊

[@Aleksanderespelid]

I just made the switch the other way, from Sony to Fuji X-T5. (And yes, I also do this professionally). I am a huge believer that even though gear is a tool, there is something to be said about having gear that inspires you and is fun to use. I HATED picking up my Sony because I could never get used to the colors, and it was so uninspiring. I have had my first shoots with the Fuji and man is it a different world. Yes, the low light capabilities is worse, but I still like the files from the Fuji better. So I can live with the extra noise.

[@sdhute]

I have a s5ii and love the camera however since purchasing I have a lot less shutter actuations. Perhaps we all need to find a passion camera. I purchased a Pentax k70 a few years ago as a test because people were always knocking on the brand. However I fell in love with that image quality.

[@amermeleitor]

I'm in my road to mirrorless, I will sell all my DSLR equipment and I'm thinking about which system to get. I'm between Sony and Fuji, mostly because are the only brands with truly fully open mount to third party lenses and because I want something small, not bulky, nor necessarily tiny, but small and usable, with enough grip for big lenses. Sony and Fuji are in the sweet spot for that. Price wise Fuji is cheaper, for cameras plus lenses. And there is nothing like a XH2S in Sony for the price. But Sony is full frame, having more dynamic range and better ISO performance. Years ago I tried Sony, the ergonomics were the worst and the UI weird and without logic. But i has been told that Sony is very good now about ergonomic and menus.

[@IchBinDerJesko]

I love my Fuji and I alwyays had, but this made me appreciate it even more. I love how lighweight and easy too carry it is and how much it makes me enjoy shooting. Eveven though I also cant get buying a full frame a7c ii out of my head :D

[@Bigtbone205]

I have used full frame cameras for the past 15 years. A year ago i bought an A7R5. I now almost never need a tripod due to the amazing image stabilisation. The thing that really changed my perspective was the 60mpx. I had thought for years that anything above 20mpx was a waste of time. I was wrong, so wrong.

[@joshyookphotography]

Im a pro wedding photographer and i agree with this video. I use dual fuji xt5 for weddings and the sony A9 for everyday life. They each provide specific abilities that bring out the best of your circumstances.

[@r.c8756]

I never owned anything OTHER than a sony Camera and yet I can very well relate on what you’re saying in the "what is missing" section. Sony has taken a lot of effort to produce "untainted" images, i.e. extremely faithful to reality, whether it’s details or colors, which paradoxally, makes it feel like looking at your photos is like... just looking at reality instead of a photograph. Of course that statement is a bit exagerated because the result also depends on the lens used and of course mostly on the photographer’s talent. But still, exactly as you said, even though it’s still possible to adjust the result to your own style and expectations with post-prod, right on the spot, many pictures that may eventually be beautiful after that editing work will look kind of bland when looking at them right after they’ve been taken. That’s the reason while I’m currently thinking of getting a fuji from the used market to see how different it may really feel...

[@ardie3523]

Great insight and lessons. I think a lot of people would benefit from hearing your story. I also went between Sony and Fuji. I've traveled, used them daily, and produced print work with both. I agree - Sony cameras are cold and calculating. They get the job done with no regard to enjoyment of use. I kind of had the opposite journey to you in that I bought into Fujifilm after Sony because of the enjoyment hype but I did not feel that enjoyment at all. It may just be a different way of thinking. I much preferred the ergonomics of holding the A7 bodies and the tactility of the buttons. I also found all of my Sonys to be a lot less prone to software glitches and missed focus. I don't think resolution is everything, but there was an unexpected downside to Fuji's sensor for stills. Sony's 24mp rendering even with a vintage lens was so much more detailed than Fuji's, especially in foliage/nature which I shoot a whole lot of. I also noticed when Fujis are left in auto ISO during video, you can clearly see "stepping" between the ISOs. Same for aperture and small focus changes. A couple of tips that could help you enjoy the camera more. I remember buying an A7ii and a couple of vintage lenses for about $600 total and getting stunning results. That is one aspect that gave me so much joy - stabilizing vintage primes with their full image circle. It also bridged a lot of that "classic controls" enjoyment gap. Also, the Sony "Creative Styles" are not bad. I especially enjoy the "Autumn" setting when shooting nature. You have an A7iv so you have a much deeper level of adjustment than the 2nd and 3rd generation bodies I've mostly used.

[@ventus.pd89]

I am a beginner and I was confused about how many options there were, In the end I bought new Sony a7 iii, because only iii and iv have had waked up some emotion inside me idk why. I didn't buy iv because I didn't have enough money but still I am so happy with a7iii.