I own a 2018 Range Rover D300 Velar with 38,000, under warranty and it’s been in the garage 5 times in the last 6 months. Came from a BMW 4 Series Coupe, not one issue in 4 years of ownership. I’m loosing my patience with it now and thinking about selling. Toying with going back to a BMW.
@ИванНиколов-ш1и Жыл бұрын
I know that you like Range Rover a lot, mate, but saying that "I haven't been left stranded" when your driver door is not closing... That's not serious, I am sorry. Of course that you are left stranded. You needed to call emergency service to help you sort out the problem. What if you were on a motorway or out of town? Moreover, it happened twice. I am not saying that it is an unreliable car, it actually looks like the perfect car. I am saying that you are not being honest about this situation.
@MrNanah38 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for calling out this guys biases.
@terryurquhart2413 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm . If you consider yourself stranded and call out the Emergency services because your drivers door isn’t fully closing then you have a very limited ability to resolve situations my friend …. What do you think a bungee cord is for ?just get it tied around the door handle and loop it onto something fixed … I had to do this with a Volvo XC in winter ………easy when you have some skills man ! You want to watch Matts channel through and realise how much he puts into his cars …..
@BMill1272 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the more things you have the more you can expect to go wrong is a justification. A £100k car shouldn’t have multiple issues in a year. My Merc doesn’t, I’m not saying Mercs are reliable btw as I’ve had numerous issues with them previously. Manufacturers really need to improve quality of their products
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. It’s unacceptable really
@smeary10 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Land Rover, especially in the Range Rover, are pioneers in so many areas. Air suspension being case in point. I agree with HPA - there's a price that comes with a highly luxurious, highly technical, fully loaded car. The argument is no different when applied to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, et al. Even Porsche have their problems with rear engine seals etc..... Remember, over 80% of Range Rovers ever built are still registered and on the road.
@ilianivanov2709 Жыл бұрын
Having the engine light coming on is not ok, having this happening on a new car is not acceptable. My 10 year old 100k miles BMW X5 has never had such an issue
@aaron___6014 Жыл бұрын
How does your X5 drive compared to the range rover?
@alexlee1501 Жыл бұрын
@@aaron___6014Range Rover and jaguar easy to break down because I own Range Rover and I know
@Tuffluk Жыл бұрын
To be fair profession car reviewers and insurance companies world wide all say that the RangeRover is not very reliable. It’s not just the man on the street who has never had one.
@Incountry Жыл бұрын
I don’t think people think of “being left stranded” as the same as reliability causing inconveniences, image the door not closing whilst in the city or carpark as you’re there for a meeting, or an airport carpark as you’re about to take a flight, that’s a reliability issue and especially not on a vehicle with little mileage or of age… (not yours but anyone’s)
@franciskayce1061 Жыл бұрын
Thanks...
@v12-s65 Жыл бұрын
well it happens with my VW Passat too. That's common failure over all manufacturers when it's freezing
@Incountry Жыл бұрын
@@v12-s65 Mozel Tav…. Then buy Japanese’s or Korean, not VAG..!
@eoinoconnell185 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY ! My Lexus had a CO2 sensor problem after 15 years. It needed a new alternator after 17 years. And that was it 😂 (I've subsequently bought a Lexus NX). His annual problems exceeded the cumulative problems of a 17yo Lexus. I love land rover. But this video only cemented my resolve never to buy one.
@LewieMac Жыл бұрын
In short, he knows the Land Rover receptionist by first name. My sister had a RR 10 years ago and experienced the same issues, clearly reliability hasn’t improved. It’s still no1 most unreliable car in the UK 💀 I had a 2013 Defender, experienced a similar lock issue when it got nippy and had to climb through the boot, my window wiper motor also failed yearly and the whole dashboard had to come out to replace it. I can confidently say I’ll think twice before getting any form of Land Rover product again ☺️.
@FTFLCY Жыл бұрын
I've only had 2 cars actually let me down in the last 30+ years. Both JLR products. My 3.0 Velar stranded me in Devon with 2 passengers (one disabled). It was 18 months old. Personally, if I had this RR it would be gone by now. 3 visits in 10K miles is a pain in the arse. You're an enthusiast Matt, and absolutely nothing wrong with that. Some that are harsh on the marque are so because of experience.
@Nitroat-xo4tj Жыл бұрын
10k miles is nothing! 3 times in the shop in 10k miles is horrible.
@aaron___6014 Жыл бұрын
True.
@6th.replicant577 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, as always. But I’m confused because of logic, and this thread’s typical: there’re always many devotees and defenders of the faith saying “owned mine for 15 years - never had a problem, etc…” So, why are there also legions of disgruntled owners on FFRR forums? And why are FFRRs always bottom of the table in reliability surveys, worldwide? It’s illogical. Sure, FFRRs are complex, but so are Land Cruisers and Lexus GXs…
@Conan3145 Жыл бұрын
Nice spec. Two engine lights, a drivers door wouldn’t close. 1 roadside call-out as stranded, 3 dealer drop offs, 3 pickups, 3 non scheduled days without the car, £1k without a warranty. This is low level reliability.
@simontaylor2525 Жыл бұрын
If I spent 70k odd on a car I would be pissed off if ANYTHING went wrong with it in the first year of owning it. Ridiculous.
@rapidvtec Жыл бұрын
Ok simon
@simontaylor2525 Жыл бұрын
@@rapidvtec OK doke
@Isexwayiso Жыл бұрын
Buy one that is a good example or new. The problems will not be yours
@jimbob-qr6vp11 ай бұрын
It isn't 1 year old.
@dh138010 ай бұрын
Tell me youve never owned a brand new car without telling me
@JP-cu2gm Жыл бұрын
I’m going to allow the excuses for the RR niggles. Not sure there are any valid excuses for the ripped jeans?
@marshmellow377 Жыл бұрын
I had a range rover sport HSE ... Needed an engine replacement after 20,000 miles... Thankfully under warranty, until the electrical issues developed... This is when I got rid of it. Now drive BMW's. Had 3 in the last 5 years, and over 150,000 miles covered. Not one issue in any of them.
@jay_b.. Жыл бұрын
I have had a BMW 5 series for 3 years and there have been significant issues every year.. the latest is leaky headlights… cost is £2600 to replace…
@marshmellow377 Жыл бұрын
@@jay_b.. my current 5 series is 2018, and so far no issues (48,000 miles)
@jay_b.. Жыл бұрын
@@marshmellow377 wait till it becomes 6 to 7 years old. Then its all downhill. I bought mine used with full bmw service history and only 44000 miles on it. It now has 55000 miles but had issues from rear air suspension (on this touring model) failing, radar failing and now the headlights leaking which is a common design fault that has resulted in such a shortage of headlights that it costs £1300 per headlight to replace.
@WayToManyAssassins Жыл бұрын
@Jay B why would you ever pay that much to fix a leak.
@jay_b.. Жыл бұрын
@@WayToManyAssassins the headlights need to be replaced as internal components are short circuited. Each light is £650 as they are dynamic bi xenon with led drls.
@bilakh7 Жыл бұрын
With all your said, doesn’t sound very reliable to me. I get it, it’s comfortable and feels great being in it but still for a car this price the door should close in cold weather!!! But what do I know? I’m a poor peasant :(
@robbaker1762 Жыл бұрын
Had my 2017 4.4 diesel exactly three years last week . Still under LR extended warranty and zero issues , not so much as a dust cap replaced just like my previous 2015 model. As you say Matt , best car in the world !
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Very nice
@jimj2683 Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos The thing you have to take into account when calculating depreciation: Inflation. While your car hasn't lost money on paper, the real value of that money has gone a lot down. Especially if you compare to the value of the stock market and real estate market.
@advantagemarine730511 ай бұрын
If you can afford to buy and run a vehicle like this you don´t worry about things like that@@jimj2683
@JonnyD3ath8 ай бұрын
@@jimj2683well thats the same for every car. Thats not depreciation, that's inflation - completely different subjects
@warrengeew7 ай бұрын
187k miles on my 4.4 SDV8 FFRR. One of the most reliable cars I've ever had.
@Basexperience Жыл бұрын
Sorry man, we have to disagree on this one. They're lovely to drive, but the software in the user-facing displays is a dumpster fire. It's dog-slow, unresponsive, badly organised, poorly implemented, the hardware is underpowered. My wife owns a Velar - currently maybe 10K ahead of yours - and it's got the same internals as your Sport. The software lets it down so badly, she only ever uses Apple Carplay. Even the remote app starting is patchy and doesn't work half the time. Also - you've only done 25,000 miles. If you've had an engine light already, I mean... FFS. Your car has actually been *less* reliable than hers has, in terms of core engine reliability. RRs are lovely cars, but they're only for people who want to spend a lot of cash fixing small issues all the time. Comparing that car to a diesel golf is disingenuous as well. You should be comparing like for like with - e.g. - a big luxury car... ;plus, you could apparently buy this outright, most people would need some kind of finance, so it's not £5000 odd, is it...? I get you love the car, who wouldn't, but this is 13 mins of "I love my car and I'm ignoring the inconvenient truths"... ps - glad you have a good RR dealer. We don't, they suck balls - terrible customer service, no callbacks on service requests, just awful. :-D
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t directly comparing the car to a diesel golf, I was just talking about my fuel spend
@Basexperience Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos that’s a fair reply, but you said you’d rather be in that car than a diesel golf… I’m glad you love the car, but what you’re describing as mischaracterisation of range rovers does in fact have a ring of truth to it. Reliability surveys don’t lie: RRs are costly to maintain and it does lie in component failure a lot of the time, as you have experienced yourself: it’s another incorrect comparison, but a nearly new Honda doesn’t actually *need* an expensive warranty - it just works.
@advantagemarine730511 ай бұрын
I think you´re completely missing the point, I live in an 18th century farm, it costs a lot more to run than an average apartment or house, things break, i`m currently spending a small fortune on upgrading the heat system, the place needs more maintaining but it´s beautiful, classy, luxurious and makes us feel good. It´s a similar thing to driving a Range Rover. I´m looking to switch from our Touareg to a supercharged L405 next year and I cannot wait. And I know there will be some issues with at along the way. @@Basexperience
@kannon2k6 Жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong they are nice and comfortable cars, but those problems on a 100k car is unacceptable. If you want to make excuses for those inconveniences because you like it that's fine but God knows what else will be a problem down the line. I appreciate your honesty tho.
@rokana9641 Жыл бұрын
Love how you belittle all the evidence of it's unreliability..😅
@bjm959268 ай бұрын
I have watched dozens of High Peak’s videos. What a great presenter! He should have so many more views! Love this channel!
@ace41367 Жыл бұрын
Great cars, but NOT dependable. I’ve owned and have had 3. I like to buy and hold onto my cars. Now I just buy a seven year extended warranty and get rid of it before it ends. All started having problems from 13k - 20k miles, Fuel pump failed, ac compressor, etc. this does not include gremlins, which disappear when you show the dealer or restart. After 40k miles - it’s 4-8k a year in service and repairs - why I get rid of them before extended warranty is over. Wonderful design, very capable, but I think I’m a sucker for punishment - having said that my friends Mercedes are not great either - I suppose that’s why everybody leases.
@inchlorIentztJiIu Жыл бұрын
Lol my friend traded his brand new 2023 Range Rover L. It was already giving him problems with the RWS actuator causing clunky noises, stability problems, the door handles keep getting stuck and one wouldn’t come out at all. Also RWS is a very old technology and there’s a reason they stop implementing it in to cars and now that crap is coming back.
@AutomotiveEvangelist Жыл бұрын
Funny, I've owned an L494 diesel for two years and 10,000 miles, and it's been nothing but trouble. I won't own another diesel as a result. It hasn't been expensive because I do all my own work, but the engine light is on more than it is off. There is very little information on how to repair things, because most Range Rover owners just take them to a dealer to sort out, and finding parts is tricky because of the lack of information as well. Just recently the car was a no start, and after hours of searching for the problem, I found water in the ECU, which destroyed it. I can't even imagine what that would have cost to sort at a dealership. Oh, mine's a 2017 with only 42,000 miles. Again, constant problems (clogged DPFs due to either a bad throttle or a small EVAP leak), Oxygen Sensors, bad solenoids, etc. I love the way the car drives but I'm done with the diesels.
@adamdavis3361 Жыл бұрын
The need for a warranty does not support the argument for getting one of these cars. For that to work, your statement should be 'I paid for a warranty, but it was wasted money as it wasn't needed'
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
I didnt pay for a warranty. I bought it from LR and it came with a warranty FOC
@adamdavis3361 Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos I remember in one of your videos you said you bought a warranty for £1000 pound or something for a year. You said the warranty more than paid for itself. That's what I was referring to. That warranty should have been a waste of money. And by that I mean it shouldn't have been needed for a luxury car, but was, on multiple occasions.
@drone_tours Жыл бұрын
My fact not statement is that the LEXUS LS430 is the BEST car in the world and it has that reputation
@RedPillBroadcast6 ай бұрын
😂 a toyota? Enjoy it sir, enjoy it. Leave the expensive, temperamental toys for those with deep pockets for toys
@dazzassti Жыл бұрын
Well I've had 7 mates over the years who've bought into Range Rovers. All have had significant issues all cases have cost them a LOT of money. Unless you can afford a new one or a very comprehensive warranty they're a serious liability that could bankrupt you very easily. I'd love one, but no way worth the risk IMO
@richardswatman4011 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that level of reliability is simply unacceptable to anyone with less job/time flexibility than you enjoy.
@yanston Жыл бұрын
Big fan of yours Matt, but that's a very charitable assessment of reliability over a year with a low mileage, pampered car which had two check engine lights requiring a trip to the dealer and a door problem which essentially meant you couldn't use the car until it was fixed, twice. I'm not entirely convinced a similarly spec'ed similar age Mercedes GLS63 or BMW X5M would be less reliable than your L405.
@kazraj3591 Жыл бұрын
Always in JD report of unreliable cars that says it all normally top 5 worst every single year so talk what you like the report says it all
@pauloconnor7606 Жыл бұрын
I have never owned a JLR car, but I have read many reliability surveys ( Warrenty Wise Extended ,ect )over the years, they always seem to be at the bottom or very near it. If you have to drive back to the dealer for anything its a pain.
@brightenupcc Жыл бұрын
JD Power - quantitative proof that Land Rover is one of the most unreliable brands you can have the misfortune to own. But yes, if you don’t mind the inconvenience of regularly sharing your car with a mechanic and paying handsomely for that pleasure, by all means buy one. Just don’t be that guy who claims Land Rovers are completely faultless because he has owned two of them and never had any problems. That’s called ‘statistical nonsense’.
@oldhamer111 Жыл бұрын
He's owned way more than two, though...
@robertarthur3711 Жыл бұрын
Land Rover Basingstoke said it’s shocking how many cars including brand new ones fail and some are off the road for several months. Even brand new range rovers are returned due to serious failures. Some brand new ones have been painted before the customer collects them due to knocks and dinks. This why they are voted the most unreliable car. But to be fair my brand new £65k Touareg broke down in the handover bay at West London VW and was beyond any repairs due to software issues, took 6 months to get my money back! It’s a fact the more complicated the car the more chance of issues.
@JonnyD3ath8 ай бұрын
You ask any dealer and they'll say the same, thats because the ones that break all go there. It’s confirmation bias. And new cars get hit and repaired at every dealership, whats that got to do with reliability?
@robertarthur37118 ай бұрын
@@JonnyD3ath you are correct it’s got nothing to do with reliability, however, it’s not a few cars damaged it’s a huge amount of damage and some have excessive damage add this to the appalling reliability it’s truly shocking for something so expensive, nice motor though. I wouldn’t entertain a new one
@everydayguy289 Жыл бұрын
Engine light on a almost new low mileage range rover yep it's unreliable
@hanssaykiewicz4319 Жыл бұрын
I have just switched to Mercedes after owning LR products for almost 30 years. My last full size Range finally broke it for me. The engineering is poor. The LR service is a disaster (always has been). It’s a $100K +++ car designed to last 3 years. There are no quality standards, either in manufacturing or in service. Again, that is after almost 30 years of owning LR products. Enough of giving them another chance.
@hanssaykiewicz4319 Жыл бұрын
@Ricky Anthony I am stupidly vain. Driving an LR used to convey an image. Sometimes that image can kill your brain cells.
@notyourjob8597 Жыл бұрын
Make a reliability test after 100k miles 😅 . The result will be completely different
@WayToManyAssassins Жыл бұрын
Imagine replacing the air suspension or supercharger on this thing 😬
@JonnyD3ath8 ай бұрын
@@WayToManyAssassinsair suspension is pretty basic and easy to replace actually. Just sounds fancy!
@acptelford1307 Жыл бұрын
I drive around the country a lot. I see loads of land rovers / range rovers and their stablemates at the side of the road awaiting rescue. Lots more than any other manufacturer.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
That’s the sort of nonsense I’m talking about hearing - where are the facts?
@acptelford1307 Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos I am thinking of actually noting down all the broken down cars I pass. But believe me, I see more range rovers than anything else. I only have to walk 100yards up the road to count the first. My neighbours autobiography has been off the road for 3 weeks now. Lol
@braddangolf3223 Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos Nonsense? Facts? So what are you're outlandish facts based on?. "Best car in the world" you say. Don't you realise how ridiculous that sounds! The facts are in print, across mostly every motoring magazine in the UK. JLR ( from owner) public consensus, have been acknowledged as one of most unreliable vehicles on these shores. Gotta give you credit though. You are one hell of a snake oil salesman lol. You certainly know how to stir the pot for gaining views/ comments and profit. 👍
@265justy Жыл бұрын
If your wealthy enough to buy one, then your wealthy enough to fix/ repair one..... But they are still glorified shit heaps.
@owennato Жыл бұрын
I love RRs, and I have had two, but reliability are the very things you mention. Things they go wrong than shouldn’t. To be honest like for like, you’ll end up dropping your RR at the garage way more than your German equivalent.
@boyantrifonov Жыл бұрын
The soft close motor not working is a CATASTROPHIC FAILURE! These type of cars like the Full Size Range Rover are luxurious grand touring, mile munchers. You could be in a different country or a some far away place and not being able to close your door is a safety concern both if you want to drive or if you want to take shelter in the winter time. The fact that an assistance technician was close in your case is a favorable circumstance. If you were in a ski resort in your OFF ROAD SUV !!! in a village in the alps and you arrive at Friday night and it is snowing - you have to leave your door not fully closed. Since Range Rover pride themselves on off road capabilities the door SHOULD work in Siberia without a problem. This one part where the should over engineer it. I am happy you are OK but this is unacceptable.
@robinclayton8284 Жыл бұрын
You have 4x O2 sensors , two before the catalytic converters "Up Stream" one per bank of the V8, and two after the Cats "Downstream". The upstream are there to control engine fuelling, the downstream are primarily there to ensure the Cats are doing their job.
@chrishazael3157 Жыл бұрын
For the price of them, I would expect them to be super reliable. I think you're seeing it from a professional viewpoint rather than from the normal buyers viewpoint. Just taking time off to go to the main dealers is a hastle. Mix that with running a business, organising family life etc, a car that has been in the garage three times in only 10,000mikes, ie once every 16 weeks is, I would have thought, considered unreliable.
@brownfamily67 Жыл бұрын
You are not seeing it from a Range Rover buyer’s perspective..As Matt says, the reality is that all complex luxury cars are more likely to be unreliable..If reliability is your No1 priority don’t buy one! A Toyota whatever will be fine. Just like living on bread & potatoes is fine if you don’t want to risk anything better.
@nikstoun9478 Жыл бұрын
@@brownfamily67go buy a Lexus suv equivalent to this vehicle and do the same reliability test on 24k miles and compare with the range rover.
@DjEvo707 Жыл бұрын
@@nikstoun9478I had a 2019 Lexus is 350 f sport brand new, tons of issues. Had it in the shop 3 Times to get the brakes fixed, the door panel leather separated and the whole door panel needed to be replaced.
@advantagemarine730511 ай бұрын
but they are dull as dishwater@@nikstoun9478
@darrentaylordigital Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car, among the best in the world in terms of luxury, comfort and the feel-good driving experience. But let's be honest, they are terrible for reliability. You'll get better reliability and arguably equal luxury in a GLE AMG Merc or Porsche Cayenne GTS
@EdilarinProducts Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have mentioned GLE as a reliable car. Those are poor build quality.
@sangetube Жыл бұрын
As an ex roadside recovery truck driver, I can say the unreliable reputation is well deserved. Not only are they unreliable they are a pain in the arse to get on the bed of a truck, especially the automatics. When they won't start, to get them in emergency neutral you have to remove the air intake box to move a leaver on the autobox and keep it in place with a screwdriver. They are fantastic when they are working, I absolutely love driving them. But they will leave you stranded when you need them most.
@JeffoJonJ Жыл бұрын
Oh&some!! You can hotwire them from under the hood my x5 same problem
@philipnorth9606 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video but I'm not a fan of anything JLR, and that's based on personal experience. Their dreadful reputation for poor build quality and woeful reliability is still at the bottom of the pile. A stat they've proudly retained over 20 years. (Source JD Power) I would rather anything but a Landrover.
@paulf2529 Жыл бұрын
I've heard some absolute horror stories on this model, I would not even consider one.
@brownfamily67 Жыл бұрын
Interesting…Now go watch a Toyota Aygo review…
@urossamec5817 Жыл бұрын
It's a posh, oversized status car. Noghting exciting there.
@gareth198808 Жыл бұрын
Wow, bet you’re a fun guy at parties
@wandering_not_lost10 ай бұрын
Have you driven a car powered by that engine? If not you have no idea how good they are
@tayyebshabir177 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a new car and every time I go towards a range rover I end up going towards a landcruiser amazon.
@Jerichocassini Жыл бұрын
I guess it is about your level of tolerance. If I had one morning where I woke up and the door on my car wouldn't work properly I would never want to see that car again. The idea that in 2023 that your car door wouldn't work but you'd say it was sufficient explanation that it was a bit of a nippy morning - no thanks. Getting a bit of WD40 and giving it a spray... Jesus. How much did you pay for this car again? You called it a 'false alarm' after you sat for 20 minutes to warm the car up and then another hour for a recovery vehicle to come and find you. I'd love to explain to my boss that me being 1 hour 20 minutes late for work was a false alarm. I think Range Rovers look incredible, and I have never driven one, but I bet I'd feel like a King if I did, but I could never accept that level of entirely predictable unreliability.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Again it’s because they’re complex. The door didn’t fault, it was the soft close motor which pulls the door in. I agree it shouldn’t fail but I’m easy going enough to just move on and get on with it
@Jerichocassini Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos Fair play. I think maybe because you work in the trade you're more knowledgable and more forgiving. I'd just be sitting on my drive with a door that wouldn't close thinking, 'why did I buy this again?' Maybe part of owning an expensive car is also having the lifestyle where you can be master of your own fate, and if it takes an extra hour one morning, that is okay. Should say though - car looks amazing.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
@@Jerichocassini yeah that’s true. Because I do this as a job I’m used to things breaking so maybe I don’t get so worked up about it
@Kenny_P_abz Жыл бұрын
Glad your year with the Range Rover has gone relatively well. As a Cheshire resident myself I must say though that it’s quite common to drive past Knutsford Range Rover and see an AA transporter outside
@paulelledge8977 Жыл бұрын
Quite common. 🙄
@andrewwilson3663 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's a great car but at that price I would be expecting JLR to collect it on a trailer leaving me a similar or improved spec model with a full tank to use while they fixed it and returned it cleaned and polished, on a trailer.. I'd be disappointed if my car have those faults within 10,000 miles. And it has just about been to the moon already.
@epermute Жыл бұрын
The most reliable LR is a Toyota 4 runner!
@haydne Жыл бұрын
nice video, BUT, I'd go for for a Toyota, every time!
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
The trouble is the don’t make a car on par with the Range Rover
@georgesemple8136 Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos NOOOO, they make it better
@lv3575 Жыл бұрын
But it’s a Toyota….. no matter how reliable , it’s still a Toyota
@nigelbond4056 Жыл бұрын
Back in 2011 my sister-in-law ordered a brand new Discovery 4 HSE. In its first week is broke down with a major electrical fault that took Land Rover several weeks to resolve. The car was kept for 6 years covering over 80k miles and never had any problems after that first week. At the same time I ran a Lexus GS300 SE-L that was nothing but trouble.
@JonnyD3ath8 ай бұрын
Our Disco 4 is about to hit ¼ million miles any day now. We have put the last 170k of those miles on it and it's been great! A few niggles along the way but nothing thats ever made me fall out of love with it. Great machine!
@bengenovese6591 Жыл бұрын
Matt, I used to drive Glasgow to Bournemouth and back once a week for a year. On the way I’d play a game where I kept a tally of car brands broken down. Over 45,000 miles there was an undoubted trend between: 1. J Land Rovers 2. Mercedes
@CraigK80 Жыл бұрын
I have a few colleagues that work at JLR, some in management some on the production line. Some stories of what goes on on the production line I cannot genuinely repeat on here, needless to say none of them own land rovers or would own one. Read into that what you will. They did say that Jags had slightly better reliability and care whilst in production. Regardless of that, one thing I can’t argue with is the styling of the Range Rover, simply the best and to this day I still have the urge to buy one.
@jamespugh3729 Жыл бұрын
And saying FACT, doesn't actually make something a fact.... It just sounds silly....
@David81515Ай бұрын
Ok troll 😢harder
@davidmartin6265 Жыл бұрын
You have been lucky with your RR. Here is my experience and not someones third hand tale. Mine, despite carefully driven, 5 years old, 30,000 miles, with genuine JLR dealership servicing and at the correct intervals. Whilst having its MOT in the dealership, the engine seized, and the engine was written off. £23,000 to fix and took 3 months to complete the work. Had to buy a second car whilst this one was off the road (Mercedes) that cost £20,000. JLR agreed to pay a huge chunk of the bill, which was helpful. Have now got it back, and cannot wait to sell it. Will l buy another? Definitely not.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Which model?
@davidmartin6265 Жыл бұрын
@High Peak Autos Range Rover Sport. Have to say JLR were very supportive, better than the dealership that had the car in for repair. Look, it was a lovely car to drive, and l know it now has a brand new engine, with a warranty, but l can no longer trust it.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
@@davidmartin6265 no I wouldn’t trust it now either. Which engine?
@davidmartin6265 Жыл бұрын
@High Peak Autos 3 litre TD. The whole engine went, together with the twin turbos.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
@@davidmartin6265 that’s shocking. SdV6?
@jamespugh3729 Жыл бұрын
The most recent Landcruiser Amazon is at least as complex as the range rover, but doesn't break down.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Yeah but it’s not as good. Fact
@jamespugh3729 Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos well Chris Harris doesn't agree with you.... FACT
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
@@jamespugh3729 ah yes, Chris Harris. The font of all knowledge. So it wasn’t even your own opinion or experience? It was Chris Harris’s? 😂😂😂
@jamespugh3729 Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos FACT opinions are like aresholes, everyone's got one. Your video would be really interesting if you actually laid out why you thought the cat was perfect. I've had both a Landcruiser Amazon v8 and a ffrr supercharged, the range rover was better at some things, but definitely not at everything. The ffrr is not materially more complex than the Landcruiser (which has far cleverer hydropneumatic suspension for example), but did break down WAY more often. Neither left me stranded, but I never had any gremlins with the cruiser, but like many owners has them frequently with the range rover (it's favourite party trick was the dashboard intermittently dying, fixed by restarting the car....). It's a hard claim to justify that it's the best car on the world when it's consistently one if the most unreliable by all independent metrics.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
@@jamespugh3729 this should’ve been your first comment and then we wouldn’t have had this little exchange. Fair enough. Each to their own. All the best.
@GRfourfun Жыл бұрын
It’s a gorgeous car Matt and I’m glad you went with that supercharged V8, that whine sounds phenomenal! I’ve got to say I’m impressed with the fuel economy too. I’ve had two Lexus ISF’s with the 416bhp 5.0 V8 NA and I was getting 23 round town and 28 on a run, although 30 was possible but that wasn’t any fun.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@aquicktake Жыл бұрын
I drive conservatively and my 2014 L405 V8SC only gets 16mpg/avg
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
@@aquicktake imperial gallons or US Gallons
@aquicktake Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos That would be US
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
@@aquicktake ah ok. An imperial gallon is bigger so naturally you’ll get more miles from each one
@iconicetiquette4546 Жыл бұрын
Go out in the outback in one come back in a landcruiser😊
@benclode6363 Жыл бұрын
Have to say it, I often skip ads but i was in awe with how flawless u advertised with no script, on an open road. Props to u
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@paulmcgee1867 Жыл бұрын
Good training I reckon
@ianmason3040 Жыл бұрын
@@paulmcgee1867 classically trained Thespian
@RosalindFisher Жыл бұрын
Agreed, the more complicated the car the more moving parts etc to go wrong. Still, how come Toyota, Honda and most other makes are all statistically more reliable than the Rover?
@TheChiro2000 Жыл бұрын
Interesting point
@brunoultra7215 Жыл бұрын
Because. They. Have. Nothing. In. Them.
@muayboran4life Жыл бұрын
Traded my trusted 2021 Lexus LX570 (5.7 L V8 engine) for a 2023 RR SE (3.0 I6), and couldn't be happier. I have only had the car for a few weeks now and paid $23k over MSRP, and absolutely love it. Lexus, Honda, and Toyota are reliable because they run 7-10 year cycle before complete redesigns. And simplicity in suspension, and engine designs, and tech is how they keep things reliable.
@has4tis Жыл бұрын
Because Toyota and Honda are not complicated vehicles. They are not performance oriented vehicle either. For example, they don't have Turbos which is a common point of failure. Toyota and Honda know their customers want reliable cheap to run and cheap to maintain vehicle to go from point A to point B and keep their vehicle for many years. Bmw, merc, Audi, range Rover and so on they know their customers don't keep their cars more than several years because they want latest techs, best performance figures and a car that is fun to drive. This is why Toyota Honda dont changes their models often, provides small incremental change over many years and eventually more reliable.
@JavierCR25 Жыл бұрын
Toyotas and Hondas (both of which I like quite a bit) are not complicated cars nor are they loaded with loads of the latest tech. Luxury cars have all sorts of things that can break, but that’s the nature of the beast.
@chris0628 Жыл бұрын
You need to rethink your gauge 😂…. 10,000 miles and talking about reliability…..Seriously 😂😂😂😂😂
@davidrogers1964 Жыл бұрын
Matt, that is a beautiful car. I had a 2008 Range Rover HSE for 8years. Got a lot of negative comments regarding reliability but loved telling people what a great car it was. No issues. Now I have 2 Range Rovers one a 2013 sport and the other one a 2017 Range Rover supercharged 6. Unfortunately they are both in the shop for shock issues. Thank god the 2017 is under warranty that the dealer sold me. Oh well, the joy of owning these awesome cars. Can’t wait to get in them and drive them. Also did the Range Rover driver experience at the Biltmore in Nc. It will really make you appreciate these cars. Ok, that’s enough rambling for now. Great video. I really enjoyed it today. Keep up the good work!😊
@michaelmansfield-corbett96 Жыл бұрын
I've had two Range Rovers. They were both shit. I now drive a Lexus😃
@gyllesdorf Жыл бұрын
Have the same model, bought 2nd hand one year ago, and I LOVE it! Have also just passed 10.000 miles since buying it and no problems at all! I have had lots of luxury cars, but this one is the best!
@stevew1960 Жыл бұрын
Great video Matt but, as tempted as I am by a Range Rover, these reports keep putting me off. Do you think your view of what’s ‘normal’ for big expensive complex cars might be being skewed by the fact that you’ve got used to driving land rovers? I’ve done nearly 30k miles in my 2019 X5 and have had no problems at all. My only opportunity to test the dealer’s coffee has been when it’s been serviced…
@JonnyD3ath8 ай бұрын
Look for reasons/problems and you'll find them. People love to moan when things break. We've owned our Discovery 4 for a few years now and clocked up 170k miles. Its about to hit ¼ million any day now and still going strong. Only a few niggles over the years. Not even a light on the dash as it stands today!
@akfashnazir9673 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you are talking about it's reliability after just 24000 miles is proof enough of JLR's quality.
@JonnyD3ath8 ай бұрын
It's all anyone asks you when you own a LR followed by laughing to make themselves feel better.
@alexandermichael117 Жыл бұрын
Rubbish on wheels, but yours is faultless of course.
@caryknapton7233 Жыл бұрын
With you Matt, I have owned multiple Landrovers & Range Rovers over the last 30 years both in Africa and the UK. I have always maintained them myself as in Africa we overlanded extensively throughout South Africa. One trip in 4 weeks Durban to Namibia's Skeleton Coast we did 9600 KM (5900miles) without issue in a Discovery 3 fully loaded with supplies and rooftop tent without incident. The main issues as others in the know have found its either poor maintenance by the owner or maintained by inexperienced techs. I include main dealerships in this category as I have corrected poor workmanship from a vehicle only maintained by Landrover. The Disco 3/Range Rover started the mix of the most comfortable capable vehicle in the world by a country mile.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Well said. It’s funny how most people who have owned them rate them highly and the people who don’t rate them have never owned one 🤷🏼♂️
@broken12367 Жыл бұрын
I like how you matched the colour of the wood to your hair.
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Blonde?
@simonward9369 Жыл бұрын
@@HighPeakAutos Try Ginger 😉
@anessalihovic2595 Жыл бұрын
To have 3 malfunctions within 10000m and 24000 miles total is actually a lot, but, if you feel that the car is the best car in the world and you are enjoying it.. 3 malfunctions is nothing. Keep enjoying Matt, all the best.
@paulmcgee1867 Жыл бұрын
3 too many
@georgesemple8136 Жыл бұрын
@@paulmcgee1867 he was just lucky
@stuartmackenzie2066 Жыл бұрын
I have had an L322, D4 and currently a D5. Apart from the normal wear and tyre items never had any issues. Yes when something does go wrong it can be expensive but that's what the warranty is for. No matter what I'll always go RR or LR cannot beat these cars!! Another great video @highpeakauto, I just love your honesty plus the fact you love a RR/LR!!
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JasonDunlop247 Жыл бұрын
I hear only horror stories about the unreliability of land/range rover ! I personally would not risk my money on one! It's a pity cause they look great. Apart from the very iritating advert demo, i appreciate the terrific review 👍
@JonnyD3ath8 ай бұрын
People just love to moan. We've put 170k on our Discovery 4 and its still going strong about to turn ¼ million miles. Few niggles in the years we've owned it but nothing that made me fall out of love with it
@schrodingerscat1863 Жыл бұрын
Have to agree with the sentiment of this video, if you drive regularly having a high quality vehicle that you enjoy driving is worth the extra money. I used to do 200 miles a day and after a few weeks of that decided to get a 330Ci BMW because it was a joy to drive and made those miles something to look forward to rather than a chore. Only thing I would change about that Range Rover is the colour, amazing vehicle.
@ianyoud1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt I’ve had my 2008 L322 for over seven years now and apart from routine servicing it’s been absolutely faultless I do think it’s how you look after them if you neglect them they are going to break down and leave you stranded but if you look after them like I have with mine it’s been faultless great video Mat and yes you are definitely correct about being the best car.................In the world as Jeremy Clarkson would put it hope you are well best wishes ian
@Yanmak13 Жыл бұрын
What engine does it have?
@Welovedaxies Жыл бұрын
Looking after them helps, but even if you do they are more likely to fail. The stats that produce the reliability scale that JLR spend most of their time at the bottom of are based on new vehicles.
@dobrien757 Жыл бұрын
My aunt serviced her 2.0 diesel ingenium discovery 68 plate every 6k miles, now on 72k and on it's THIRD engine...
@liamsullivan4486 Жыл бұрын
@@dobrien757 to be fair, those diesel ingenium engines are made of chocolate. Terrible motor, Jag XE/XF’s with them are forever seeing engine failure. Bit of a scandal really. I drive an XF but it’s a 2015 model with the 3.0 V6 diesel and it’s been bulletproof. No way I’ll be going for an ingenium next.
@dobrien757 Жыл бұрын
@@liamsullivan4486 agreed! The third engine was a real struggle to get replaced under warranty. She ordered a Skoda Kodiaq Laurin and Klement. Wise move me thinks, by the way, I love those Jags, had one as a rental in Lanzarote in 2016, I hope you like it as much as I did!
@nautique1970 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2015 SDV8 Autobiography that’s now covered 40K & I’ve had no problems apart from standard wear & tear. The full fat Range Rover IS THE BEST VEHICLE, I adore it. Cheers for the great entertaining videos
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Well done. Cheers
@darland3821 Жыл бұрын
Ripped-knee jeans? Really?
@John64125 Жыл бұрын
So it did leave you stranded. The door wouldn’t close so you couldn’t drive away?
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
I didn’t mention in the video but I have a spare Range Rover for such an occasion
@John64125 Жыл бұрын
In fairness I had an X5 did that constantly when it was cold. Open door get in and try to shut the thing……Nope, wait till spring! …
@Peugeot306 Жыл бұрын
Do we have to start a fundraiser for you to buy new trousers? 😂😉
@etsyconsultant Жыл бұрын
Lol.
@georgesemple8136 Жыл бұрын
90% of all landfovers are still on the road,,,,,,,,,The other 10% made it home
@craigocharger4491Ай бұрын
I bought a 2014 RR Sport HSE back in June 2024 with 70,000 miles on the clock. I had some suspension pipe issues, but got them sorted & new timing belts fitted. I've always been an Audi fan boy but my RR is by far, the best car I've ever owned.
@md-detailing Жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more with you Matt! The L405 is the most iconic and classy gen of the RR, love the interior, the fuji white paint and i love facelifts, if you maintain it properly its as relliable as anything else. Great video as usual :F
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@lionheart.5983 Жыл бұрын
Favourite colour is corris grey with the black pack, black rims etc... Best looking rover.
@md-detailing Жыл бұрын
@@lionheart.5983 its good as well!
@leohopkins4381 Жыл бұрын
An upstream O2 sensor is ‘upstream’ (after) the catalytic converter. You have two O2 sensors, one before and one after the cat; and their job is essentially to check the health of the catalytic converter.
@zdendaderman5253 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. Especially petrol ones. And it has been designed for people who have money. And if it is to be a bit unreliable and breaks down every now and again, you can always have two so you can drive one while the other one's being fixed. I can't see any problem for people who really can afford cars like this. And if you are a guy like me and you can't really afford a car like that, there's always Fiat Panda out there somewhere on the market 😉 Brilliant video, Matt 👍.
@darwenrover8910 Жыл бұрын
Like John Prescott with his Jags 😂
@johnellisnichol6865 Жыл бұрын
Breaks down
@zdendaderman5253 Жыл бұрын
@@johnellisnichol6865,🤣🤣🤣 thanks 😊
@Northernerdownsouth2 ай бұрын
Discovery 4 SDV6 owner here. 190,000, owned since 90,000. Changed oil every 6 months or 5k miles and replaced wear and tear. Runs like a dream
@BobTheBlue Жыл бұрын
Matt, I’ve owned a BMW M5 Touring for 10-years…. 150,000 miles… never been back to the shop ONCE… and 45MPG over 10-years
@simonp9075 Жыл бұрын
Had a 2008 Toyota Rav4 Diesel and drove it hard up to 153k with no engine lights ever no break downs and the most expensive thing that went wrong was a alternator £210. Never had an issue with the engine or electric's and was even on its original clutch and I don't do al lot motorway miles either . I now have a 2016 Honda CRV diesel with 75k and so far only had pads + discs and oil and filters. I would hope anything should be reliable with 24k on the clock but would you want to own it at 80k+ if so you might need very deep pockets.
@malcolmlane-ley2044 Жыл бұрын
I did 100k in a 4.4D with no problems because I maintained it properly. Don't get a lift in one or you'll know what you're missing.
@jdmguy44 Жыл бұрын
@Simon P I agree. Any car of this mileage/age that's been maintained should be reliable. A true assessment of quality and reliability on a vehicle for me is when it hits at least 10 years old and has about 80-100k plus miles on the clock. Then let's see what's gone wrong! Fact is if I was spending my own cash on a car to last a long time I wouldnt be going for a RR. That's just my opinion.
@MrAndycowl Жыл бұрын
My boss had a Discovery 5, it had to have a new engine and was in and out of the dealer. So he bought a second hand Range Rover 3L D, he drove it out of the dealer on Friday, it broke down on Sunday, new turbo and EGR valve required. He then found out it had a new engine fitted under warranty. I cannot comment on its age, except it was covered under LR warranty.
@spudboy1328 Жыл бұрын
That's all well and good in the UK where there are lots of LR dealers. But in Australia they are thin on the ground, and you might have to drive hundreds or even thousands of KMs to get the car back to a dealer. I do love LRs, and I have had more than 10 Range Rovers/Discoveries/Defenders in the past, so I have a special place in my heart for these cars. I also know very well the service department of my local LR dealer, and how they can ream you. Still - I loved driving those cars. But as I get older, I've gone back to reliability and dependability and more economic motoring and in Australia, for outback driving, that means Toyota Land Cruiser or Toyota Prado.
@MrSparklespring Жыл бұрын
Wise decision man. I wouldn't trust a range rover in the outback either. Lol.
@spudboy1328 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSparklespring TBH they are not made for outback touring. Those 21" rims are the first stumbling block. You can't air them down, and they get 'pinched' in rocks and puncture. Way too complicated for long term reliability. Great if you live in one of our 10 or so big cities, but not worth much once you get into the outback and corrugations and deep sand and so on.
@IanRB26 Жыл бұрын
Spot on about modern cars just having more things to go wrong. People need to learn that. I can't tell you how many times customers say to me "My 20 year old Honda Civic doesn't have these issues" Yes but your 20 year old Honda Civic doesn't have any of these luxuries either does it?
@YourTechGerman Жыл бұрын
I get your point and it's a lovely car but those were still too many stops at the dealer in a year for such an expensive car in my opinion
@seanmorgan4099 Жыл бұрын
I have a RR Sport V6 diesel, 2013 with 108,000 kms on the clock and fallen in love with it. I have had the odd little issue with it, but never stranded me and never been expensive to fix. Having had 2 LR Discovery before, I can;t see myself in a brand other than LR again now. They are lovely cars and I love driving it. It is a jack of all trades and tows my caravan with ease. A definite keeper
@Pipboy83 Жыл бұрын
"My nans, sons, sisters, cousins kitten had a range rover very unreliable always in the garage" In all seriousness. Great car, looks classy, drives very well and everyone wants one
@bcraftin7846 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a 2013 P405 full-size Range Rover supercharged. With probably the highest mileage in the whole world with 265,000 miles on the odometer. And I wouldn’t hesitate right now to jump in it and drive it to California. 🙌🏽
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Wow thats a lot of miles! Have you had it a while?
@bcraftin7846 Жыл бұрын
So I work for RANGE ROVER here in the states and I purchased it off of one of my customers. The ridiculous thing that JLR have their customers do is to change the oil between 10 and 15,000 miles which is an absolute disaster on the timing chains for the 5.0 motor. Honestly from my experience with technicians that are my friends they recommend not going over 5000 miles per oil change to help keep those chains and tensioners stay in tact. Despite changing the oil every 5000 miles you have to worry about the piston rings wearing out. So that’s what happened… and we put a new motor in the rover at 220,000 miles. But it has the original transmission… A lot of the original suspension components… And I drive 2018 to 2023s all the time and mines is just as tight.👍🏽
@bryanadams4436 Жыл бұрын
50p a mile still cheaper than public transport so Bargin cracking podcast yet again Matt cheers
@cwshtygriff13 Жыл бұрын
You would need to invest around 50k first though’ unless you have a decent cash disposal unit 🤔😂.
@bryanadams4436 Жыл бұрын
@@cwshtygriff13 Small price for a luxurious motor lol
@bryanadams4436 Жыл бұрын
@Wealdstone Raider That’s running cost not including purchase price as explained in podcast buddy
@HQBProductions Жыл бұрын
How wonderful to hear an honest and sensible report on the true reliability of Range Rover….I have had perfect service over 14 years with my 09 Freelander II and then my 17/17 Discovery Sport. My DS was a JLR build with every possible option except the garage door opener and a tow bar but it surely is the most complex DS you can buy…not one thing has gone wrong with the electronics and the only issues were a missing bonnet seal (from new and the reason why some cars suffer diesel fume problems when the dpf burns off!) and a flush and refill of the rear differential to cure a faint whine on full lock(strange but true!). The rear screens, TV, DVD player, internet, head up display, “everything” seats, all terrain progress etc etc…all fine and no glitches once set up on delivery. I have cruised many miles at 100+mph on the Autobahns, it does town, country, motorways etc without a blink and the preheat cold start up works every time. I have battled the keyboard warriors many times and most are noise makers one claiming to drive “6000 cars a year”…which in fact means he loads them onboard ships for exports. He describes RR’s as utter rubbish with low fuel and flat batteries..3% don’t start!…he would never buy one but it takes moments to discover he doesn’t own a car and rides a bike to work!! So yes..Land Cruiser would be perfect…and deeply boring but I don’t want to look like a UN Taxi driver nor carry Orla Guerin about from one war to the next! I will stay will JLR…it is good enough for me and even if a few glitches take me back to the showrooms and that is not exactly bad either! 😀😀😀😀Stay safe!
@rahimsmohamed Жыл бұрын
The ripped jeans need to go...
@robertanton75665 ай бұрын
😂
@aakeister Жыл бұрын
Our L322 v8 4.4ltr has been a dream, quiet, comfortable and has had NO issues in 12 months
@stewartmarshall8790 Жыл бұрын
Another class viewing Your love for the brand convinced me to stray away from my usual German brands… & I’m glad I did’ I love my new Discovery’ makes me smile every time I get in it 👍🏼
@HighPeakAutos Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@originalGFLEX Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the analogy of a chap dating the most beautiful girl in the world gracious sophisticated and when she speaks sounds like Sylvester Stallone. Regarding the car 7,000 miles is hardly a long term test and considering the size of the engine some might say after a total of 24,000 miles it's just outside its running in period, yet requires the pampered attention of a mechanic 3 times albeit under warranty. I'm still researching why such a beautiful, capable, luxurious comfortable car is not a first choice as opposed to a land cruiser as a daily in remote parts of the world like the Sahara desert.