10.2.6 PVP Solo Shuffle Tier List (UPDATE)

[@markfishbait]

Subtlty struggles outside of its burst window and doesnt offer the pressure that assasination offers. lots of specs are lobby dependant I think the only S tier specs are the ones that lobby makes no difference to.

[@pharmztko]

Lmfaooooo

[@envenumb]

Sub struggles with sustained damage, while assa struggles with staying alive.

[@schuylerleithulfr788]

Dude you're the best WoW channel on KZbin. Thanks so much for all that you do. Subbed.

[@DekayVods]

love this layout going back and recapping the solo shuffle tier lists after a week or two.

[@BreddoX]

Actually liked this tier list for the first time completely ^^

[@StrobeFireStudios]

I agree, Ret is very good. Even in 2's. I was fighting a Ret/Holy Priest combo as a Resto Shaman/Fire Mage and we lost. We got some seriously good plays and forced all the cooldowns but ultimately, the Ret won. It was a great match, so GG.

[@BranBronzebeard701]

Rsham fire is also not really a good comp

[@frobono]

Just curious. How many pictures did you take before you decided on that one for your thumbnail? Lol

[@AlphaDwg]

i don't know Dev evoker might be S tier. It's like the caster version of ww monk

[@Themurphyshow7]

I saw three teams tonight with frost dk and devoker and healer that absolutely wrecked us in 3s tonight

[@AlphaDwg]

@@Themurphyshow7that comp is nutty damage. But any class that can stun or has aoe control and a strong burst cooldown is gonna work with Devoker. Balance, ww, destro, ele all work great with Devoker. You’ll be 100-0 people in one global.

[@Themurphyshow7]

@@AlphaDwg I know what alt I'm gearing next!

[@fluff2945]

holy shit dude you love tier list

[@moonlight5611]

we love tier list

[@maren5174]

I love tier list.

[@Gunship888]

Tier list love you

[@keifer7]

He does make a lot of them but it is what people want (which is also a problem tbf) and it’s content so fair play.

[@samueleli3548]

This content ruined video games but it’s also needed by people so ill kms

[@AlejandroCaicedoPUJ]

You should rank blood dk since is pretty much the most viable dk spec

[@13samfootball]

I actually wish I went blood, it looks insaneeee

[@leonardo-ng4cv]

As a heal main who has any heals between 1800-2400. That heal list seems a bit off for shuffle. I would rank: A: rshamen, rdruid, hpaly B: hpriest, mw/fw, dragon C: disc

[@wideout7838]

Since when is disc worse than holy? I haven’t played pretty much all season this season but I played last season and holy priest was a fuckin joke worst healer in the game by far and disc was actually p good like top 3 healers and was competitive. What happened that disc passed it up this season???? Curious to know I main healer as well around the same rating range as you do.

[@leonardo-ng4cv]

@@wideout7838 the games go longer bc of the stamina buff and after disc runs out of cds, he often cant outheal anymore. For holy they buffed the healing by like 20 percent this season and the 4set is good. For disc its not. Also holy has better cc and good burst dmg (but overall less dmg). A good indicator for me is also the r1 breakdown for shuffle on checkpvp. With holy you need ~2.6k and for disc ~2.4k to get r1 in shuffle.

[@BreddoX]

I play every healer as well and there is no way hpal is higher than MW/FW or Hpriest ^^ like absolute no way, Supas list is accurate actually

[@leonardo-ng4cv]

@@BreddoX the r1 cutoff for mw/fw is 2628, for holy priest 2626 and for hpaly 2668. Also there are way more hpaly then monks or hpriests in the top 100 healer in shuffle. This tier list is only about shuffle. Mw is just a bad healer, if you cant play fw. And fw needs some help from your team (grib, slow) wich in shuffle is not guarnateed. So imo my list is right :D but its hard to say, the heal balance is not to bad, since the restro druid nerfs :)

[@BreddoX]

@@leonardo-ng4cv these cutoffs arent far from another, the reason why there are way more hpals is bc the class is more straight forward than the others

[@JustinPartlow-m6z]

Pres is definitely a tier.

[@StrobeFireStudios]

Too many comments but I feel like Frost Dk is very scary. When you fight a good one, theres almost nothing you can do.

[@13samfootball]

They do chunk if in the right hands

[@volkanpalut1993]

@@13samfootball just cc them while pillar on

[@christoffer5875]

Only real blunder was underrating WW and overrating SV in its place. Other than that pretty good guesses

[@youlovetoseeitlol]

People are always underrating WW. They basically fly under the raider just 2 shotting people out of nowhere. And then SV always gets overrated because the high ranked SV are insane, but outside of that it's really not better than mid.

[@volkanpalut1993]

@@youlovetoseeitlol this guy and his bff venruki hates rogues dks and hunters. they always wants see that classes in low tier

[@youlovetoseeitlol]

@@volkanpalut1993 add DH on that list and yeah 100%. Venruki is always crying about DH. I can't stand watching him because he's such a crybaby.

[@robertoalvarez2935]

Ret is A tier, gets bullied in caster lobbies and is weak against against high burst classes due for hybrid healing, which is abysmal. Once you are forced to rotate through your cool downs, you’re pretty much dead and in the minute it takes to get your shield inventions back up and in between the 30 seconds of forbearance you can get Bersted extremely easy because you hit flash of light and it only heals you for 40 K give or take so it is a joke. If left alone can and support the team with utility for the first two minutes, give or take of the game before the utility is either used up or not useful anymore.

[@domsoucie7278]

Hey Supatease can you do a 2's tier list would be very interested in what you think !?!

[@Bettejes]

Yes pls!

[@manthe3711]

Sad Prevoker noises.

[@rasmusa9415]

My mom used to hit me as a child

[@hulkhogan9704]

thats why you post conspiracy theories on your channel?

[@Themurphyshow7]

Resto druids are so predictable and there are so many of them this season, I feel like DPS have figured out how to beat us.

[@effortlessGFX]

Purging lifebloom first time may be the most satisfying thing inside arena right now.

[@Themurphyshow7]

@@effortlessGFX I would agree with you if hunter traps didn't exist 😊

[@jasonsnow6208]

Balance Druid here 1.8k arena rateing. Still going

[@EthCepher]

Fire mage is busted atm imho. Esp in reg bgs & epics. Insane damage

[@13samfootball]

I love my fire mage, swapped from arcane. I can't fucking do arcane anymore. It's super satisfying when everything clicks and you do big dam, but fire just nasty dam and don't have to build up multipliers and insta offensive cd, I always find myself having arcane surge up towards end of round, but I just don't have time to cast it and get kicked lol

[@wolfcrendraven7249]

How does Assassination being super easy to play, yet having more success on the higher end of the ladder (in EU) compared to the other rogue specs mash with it being the lowest rogue spec on your tier list?

[@volkanpalut1993]

its hard to stay alive

[@blankspace4358]

I must be playing it wrong but how is Ret worse than WW. They have the highest sustained damage of all melee and have insane utility. What am I missing?

[@Gunship888]

WWs dmg is insano mode compared to ret dmg, probably highest damage of all melee.

[@rellyroo]

I am doing alright in arena and bg's with Fury. I don't agree that it is D tier. I can do way more dps in Fury spec as I can arms. I'll give you that arms does have better defensives and Cc, but fury is so much more bursty and hard to judge. If you are a class that can keep a warrior at bay with stuns, slows, and roots then it is harder for Fury. Though if I can get out of Cc chains with trinket and berserker, and into a charge and heroic leap to stay on top of my opponent they are dead.

[@Tyzen7]

I play every single spec in this game, and BY FAR, Devoker is God tier

[@flamingjob2]

how do you counter fistweaver as a caster with melee training you?

[@moonlight5611]

ALT+F4

[@Bloody123Knuckles]

@@moonlight5611😂

[@BranBronzebeard701]

Depends in what caster, but primarily it's the same as any other healer cc chain them during burst

[@13samfootball]

What caster class are you playing

[@jeepdad1954]

Spot on for the most part. I disagree with your assessment of holy paladin defense.

[@wierdpocket]

Holy doesn’t work if your stats are off. You need to be blasting mastery for echo healing, and then you won’t be spending a lot of mana.

[@madokaonline]

blizzard shoould add like a 10 minute chat ban for all arena competitors within that arena. Because the ammount of ppl PMing after every game is just annoying at this point.

[@GPHouse-fh1ti]

Can you make a new boomy guide so I can play it at S tier please

[@keats27]

Have only tried SS once. Went 3-3 even though I was outhealed in all matches. Just feel like I need full 489 to be competitive.

[@EthCepher]

Holy pally heals need a buff again. Word of Glory & Holy Shock frequently don’t heal for much. Feels bad

[@jeepdad1954]

You should be using flash and wall and supplementing with HS and Word

[@rememba8918]

Average player or experimented player? If its the second surv must be tier s

[@KamiKaz3KarmA]

this mans trying to take credit for the way hunters have been played for years xD

[@mysticalgames3]

Go play frost Dk and show us how to make friends ! ❤

[@Themurphyshow7]

I saw 3 teams with frost dk devoker healer in 3s tonight and they absolutely stomped on us

[@mysticalgames3]

Only this compo can be little hard, try to find frost dks ranked higher than 2k4 in shuffle etc only 5 in EU

[@richiepipes8960]

I am loving the shit out of WW monk in bgs and arena.

[@FormoraDreamleaf]

all the nerfs to dh? >.>

[@prowessjen]

please do both ranked 3s and shuffle please. 3s is also popular

[@derrickhead]

I see people keep saying unholy dk is crap but i still see them 6 0 ing here n there if you know what you doing it can still be devastating and sub rogue i refuse to to say it its any less than liw A when they can vanish every 30 seconds its unreal long as they time dule and burst right they can get super easy wins and ret is decent but we need a good slow again and we kinda squishy

[@1refi]

The fact sub is still being ranked this high by so called notable members lf the community in tier lists is a joke and show bias. Its mid. And its numbers show that at best

[@Titan.Fox56]

Yep I see more people playing Ass and Outlaw than Sub and the only people I see playing Sub are those who only know how to do one thing and that is run once their first burst window fails at killing you.

[@TheNaqoyqatZ]

AffLock is too strong in RBGs to give them the buffs you recommend.

[@jonatansandberg2611]

Well obviously they dont balance the game based on rbgs

[@JoeyMazars]

Not sure about mistweaver, casting MW is one of the worst healer with terrible mana, fist depends on the lobby, you can easily get bullied by rogues, mages and hunts which is most lobbies.

[@KaratePath]

Survival with the buffs and the S4 set will become S tier for sure. The set tier buffs further the recently buffed abilities. Also, Survival is not that squishy

[@michaels5217]

Survival should be in a good spot, but hunters, survival included, are that squishy.

[@christoffer5875]

Uh, no? The current 4 set is way better, adds a massive burst window every 30 seconds. Mongoose hitting a little harder isn't even nearly as valuable

[@Minerals333]

Survival can’t be S tier unless it gets more defensives

[@knifetoucher]

Bro no way Presv is C. In fact I'd say they are easily top 2 healer now

[@trivial50]

It is definitely good. Way better than disc at least. Idk how he does his healer ranks.

[@superkee7217]

Holy pala arent a B tier is higher, they are criting for 160k!!!!!! is like the dmg a holy pala is like wtf?!!!! is huge!!!

[@trivial50]

His healer rankings are not good imo and every tier list he gets them wrong. I think this is more accurate. S = Rdruid, Hpal A = Rsham, FW, Pres B = H Priest C = Disc

[@meattwinkie6208]

Demo isn’t S tier and shadow isn’t A.

[@StrobeFireStudios]

Enhancement is literally a dead spec. It's so f*cking God awful to play. Way too many buttons to empower other buttons that ultimately do nothing. The spec feels absolutely misguided. I don't know if it needs some kind of rework for modern day gameplay, but right now, in its current state, utter doggie doo doo.

[@Gunship888]

Yeah enh needs a rework, it needs some streamlining for sure

[@Titan.Fox56]

100% with this I mained Ehancement for season 3 but good GOD its just terrible and unfun to play, especially when you can have 10x more fun and impact as elemental.

[@arcadialive4265]

Add plunderstorm to S++ tier. Thanks :)

[@billtwo7389]

Boomie so bad c tier max

[@ayelmao42069]

where is fortnite

[@destro_0411]

lets make a trend not doing anymore of these dumb thumb nails.