10.2 Holy Paladin Raid Healing Guide | Best Talent Builds and Gameplay Tips & Tricks | Dragonflight

[@Sunsilknz]

Hey mate. I'm making the switch to holy paladin for something different. I'm only a third way through your video and I'm REALLY impressed with what you've done. You're well spoken, the information is presented so it's easy to understand, the titles and visual aid shown are relevant and interesting, and everything ties together so it's engaging to watch. Thank you for putting this content out there for people like me who want to get an overview of how to play a class

[@ValiathGaming]

Wow thank you very much for those kind words, I really appreciate it :) I am glad the content is useful to people and is helpful.

[@MrChuckCosta]

Would like to say that i share the opinion, my Raid was in need of a hpally and i made the swap from Sub Rogue for haplly. Last time i played pally was WotLk and last time i healed was during Dragon Soul (last Cataclysm Raid). Your guides are helling me a LOT ❤️ Still 470ish ilvl, just finished leveling and LFR basically. Will delve into M+/non LFR scenarios to practice more.

[@vaaarhoven]

Fantastic, to the point, educational, simple to follow, easy to understand, superb, best guide for holy pala if you ask me, huge thanks, i was struggling to heal before this guide, you are awesome, thank you !

[@ValiathGaming]

Thank you very much for those kind words :) I am glad it was helpful for you! Let me know how it goes and if you have any other questions.

[@The2slick]

Great breakdown, brother! I main H Pally, and this was very helpful. You have some great points for how the play style has changed to more of a caster build. Along with how to manage your through put. Thank you for the information. Cheers!

[@ValiathGaming]

Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words :)

[@amonw1994]

​@@ValiathGamingi only can agree with the2slick. i was pushing first place meters with the traditions glimmer build/playstyle from bfa but due to a break before shadowlands till mid dragonflight i needed to adapt. now with the 10.2 changes it really flung me out of the comfort zone . together with the fact that i raidlead in my guild besides healing , made it nearly impossible to keep up in numbers with other healers. thanks for the breakdown . it was mega helpful and increase without practice my output but about 15% . pets see where it goes from here . raidleading is also getting easier due to practice.

[@ValiathGaming]

@@amonw1994thanks for those kind words, I appreciate it. This new style of playing takes a bit of practice to optimize that’s for sure but I’m happy to hear you are don’t better! Let me know how it works out in the end :)

[@tylerfrost4110]

I've been healing 25k hps more using beacon of virtue. Averaging 150k Hps in normal and heroic amirdrassil. A lot of the damage is raid wide or at least half raid wide, and beacon of virtue is always up when it needs to be. I'm somewhat surprised it's not mentioned. Virtue -> Divine Toll -> Daybreak is INSANE healing. As well as Virtue -> (the thing that makes holy light instant and chunk) -> Holy Light -> Holy Light

[@ValiathGaming]

Hey man! BoV is indeed powerful, it’s just incredibly expensive mana wise. 15 second CD to heal 4 people for 8 seconds for 4% of your mana pool. Use that too much and you go oom incredibly fast. The other beacons with your mastery and beacon of the lightbringer provides a constant outflow of aoe healing without any added mana cost. 100% you can do some insane burst healing with BoV but for 6-7 minute fights it just isn’t mana efficient enough to recommend imo.

[@dunderal]

Nice vid man. Helped me understand the playstyle more.

[@ValiathGaming]

Glad you liked it man!

[@WilL-ex1oo]

Both builds include Beacon of the Lightbringer, but it goes unmentioned in the section about picking good beacon targets. I would suggest one ranged minimum if mastery is a stat you have a lot of.

[@ValiathGaming]

Very fair point and I forgot to include that in the vid. Thanks for bringing it up. You are correct, it is generally good to have beacon on one melee and one ranged to get the most value out of your mastery and the talent.

[@radko6991]

As Ellesmere suggested on his website , best way to determine beacon targets , do a few pulls , and then after let's say 3 pulls , check warcraftlogs to see which of your mdps/rpds are taking the most damage so you avoid overhealing , is usually the dps who rarely use their personals or low ilvl/ squishy class etc. , that helps with less overhealing , but the general rule is always 1 ranged and 1 melee , I sometimes put it on a brewmaster monk, keeps their health steady and require less attention .

[@ValiathGaming]

@@radko6991 you are right, logs is a great resource to check this. Another easy way to do it is have a damage taken window open in details which will give you the same information but in real time so you can swap on the fly if needed, especially if your beacon target dies.

[@ranzort]

hey thanks for the content. I'm curious does Illumination talent increase glimmer count from 8 + 5 = 13?

[@ValiathGaming]

Hello! Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated. Actually, our baseline number of glimmers are 3, and the talent allows us to put 5 more on targets for a total of 8.

[@evrprojects6071]

im having a hard time getting good hps/healing done, im to used to dps more then doing healing haha, can u make a "rotation" guide for healing and m+ that are more in depth, i think alot of new healers would love that! :)

[@ValiathGaming]

Hello! Yeah the mindset of dps vs.healing can be a bit rough but that’s where repeated exposure will help you the most. It is really difficult to make a “rotation” for healers as it is all dependent on what is happening in your unique circumstance with the people in your raid. The general directions is the closets you will get to a rotation but after that it relies on you to make the right decision at the time. Remember, in raid you are working with other healers as well and if they are better geared or more experienced, they are likely going to “snipe” any damage before you had a chance to make your decision. Best advice I have for you is to just continue to play, try to figure out the fights and their timings a bit better so that you can be better prepared.

[@tarisco614]

Is this still accurate? I saw on wowhead that Light of Dawn is a big part of raid healing, but then I talked to mythic raiders in the pally discord who said they almost never cast Light of Dawn because it's so weak it's not worth using WoG for more single target. Any time i use LoD in raid it feels incredibly weak. Kinda confused if I'm doing something wrong?

[@ValiathGaming]

Hello! The only time you would ever use LoD or WoG is when you have at least 2 stacks of blessing of dawn :) without the buff that talent provides, our holy power spenders are just too weak. I believe I noted that in the video as well :)

[@ricardodias2311]

Nice video. Will try this since I suck at healing on raids but I can do amazing on mythic+. Do you have any plans to put any videos of your gameplay on raid like you do on m+?

[@ValiathGaming]

Hello! I am planning on doing this once the mad dash of m+ and gear chasing has subsided a little bit. I main heal raid on my Evoker with my guild so it doesn’t leaves much time for the Paladin to raid. My hope is to full clear heroic this week and I’ll record the full run :)

[@ricardodias2311]

@@ValiathGaming That's a shame hahahah well keep the good work tho. Enjoying seeing your videos

[@ValiathGaming]

@@ricardodias2311 my raid leader is allowing me to come to heroic raid tonight on the Paladin as we are doing the skip! Should have gameplay videos out later tonight or tomorrow :)

[@ricardodias2311]

@@ValiathGaming holy damn poggers. Good news everyone hahahaha. Thanks. Cant't wait for those videos. Thanks once again

[@ValiathGaming]

Uploading the Heroic Igira kill as we speak :) @@ricardodias2311

[@Lilysongs0]

Oh my gosh, I can’t believe they brought back caster paladin healing ! I haven’t liked my holy paladin since wrath, because I’m not at all a fan of the dps to heal play style

[@ValiathGaming]

Hello! Haha yes they did! The dps to heal style is still very much alive a kicking though and the buffs to our casted spells brings the community the option to play either :) Check out my m+ guide as well, even more details in there on the changes :)

[@Lilysongs0]

@@ValiathGaming thank you! I will definitely watch the m+ video:)

[@gthuriv]

lol. Plate Melee 110% stands in the dookie more than anyone. “Because nothing hurts me.”

[@ValiathGaming]

Melee brain go zug zug lol

[@godfreymassa1814]

which one is best for raids ? :)

[@ValiathGaming]

Hello! The flash of light build is going to have the highest healing throughput by quite a margin :)

[@godfreymassa1814]

Thanks. I suppose you are referring to the caster build.

[@ValiathGaming]

@@godfreymassa1814 Ah yes you are correct :)

[@timothygillespie8061]

Blizzard added a option in game to automatically make spells mouseover

[@ValiathGaming]

This old dog is too used to the olden days when that was not an option lol

[@Michaelkayslay]

Im 40 crit 36 haste 38 mastery. Unbuffed... should i try and change stuff ?

[@ValiathGaming]

That amazing! What are you doing with enchants and gems though? It’s generally a good idea to just have 34% crit and then use the phial to get to 40%, that opens up gems, enchants and runes to be put into other stats that help with throughput or survivability. Send me your armory link and I’ll take a look :)

[@mikedivittorio3744]

can we play this in mythic + instead of being a melee boy?

[@ValiathGaming]

100% we can, in fact the caster style of gameplay is the top option for us. In m+ it is a hybrid though so you are still in melee at times but you do not HAVE to at all times. Check out my m+ guide 10.2 Holy Paladin M+ Healing Guide | Dragonflight Season 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4SoZKOgbKabl5Y

[@mikedivittorio3744]

@@ValiathGaming awesome, but could we play the exact raid build for m+

[@ValiathGaming]

Hmm i probably would not do that. You still want to run awakening for m+. However, it depends on what level keys you are running. If i were you, try it out and see how it feels :)@@mikedivittorio3744

[@mikedivittorio3744]

@@ValiathGaming why not?

[@ValiathGaming]

@@mikedivittorio3744 the raid build is structured for you do heal a much larger group of players and is focused much more on pure healing. That is not the case for m+ content where you have a smaller group and you will need to change your focus depending on what is happening at the time. M+ is unpredictable whereas raid is not, this is why you want to run the awakening and inflorescence build so you have options for your heals and damage. Pure raid build in m+ will likely hamper your ability to deal with the unique situations that present themselves in m+. I’m not going to say it’s impossible, I just think you would make it harder on yourself. Again, it depends on if you are running 15s or if you are running 25s. At lower key levels you can probably run whatever you want and still be fine :)

[@theroyalcam]

holy pala is so bloated its disgusting, might even be worse than brewmaster bloat

[@ValiathGaming]

Yeah there are a lot of buttons that’s for sure, but there is a method to the madness I promise haha

[@Disslikeinator]

I searched for holy paladin ...... 5min in ....I realised.....wrong game .... LMAO

[@ValiathGaming]

Hahaha what game were you looking for?