10 Board Games We Disagree On

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@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
What game do you go against the grain on? lol
@jannagregory7928
@jannagregory7928 3 жыл бұрын
Root, for sure. I know so many people love it, including you guys, but it’s just not for me. I even won it the one time I played it, so it wasn’t dislike due to losing. Maybe I just don’t care for quite that much player interaction.
@JEV03
@JEV03 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t play social deduction lying games and it’s not for lack of trying! After a dozen plays of secret hitler that I did not enjoy I tried Among Us. I had the most fun if I get killed off early and therefore can skip the lying/discussion part of the game. Those games are great at what they do! Unfortunately what they do gives me so much social anxiety, haha.
@inezkestens5561
@inezkestens5561 3 жыл бұрын
Res Arcana. I really don't see the appeal. It's way too limited ... and if you play a dragon against me ... you'll suffer the consequences :p
@yorkoh5880
@yorkoh5880 3 жыл бұрын
Gloomhaven is an iffy one for me; I found the best part of the game was opening a new character and figuring out how they play, but nearly everything outside of that fell flat. Similar to Naveen's feelings on reading too much text, I also felt that the choices were always so glaringly obvious or annoyingly obfuscated. Our group never got really invested into the world or setting, we just enjoyed learning, mastering and retiring a specific character.
@myguyry
@myguyry 3 жыл бұрын
Terraforming Mars. The randomness of the card draws, and just pushing cubes over and over again makes it a pass for me.
@jamesmorgan1967
@jamesmorgan1967 3 жыл бұрын
My takeaway from this video: Naveen craves excitement!
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
I must be entertained!!! LOL. It was just the word of the day for some reason... ;-)
@joelkong9060
@joelkong9060 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the quote from Gladiator "Are you not entertained"?! by Maximus
@DenisRyan
@DenisRyan 3 жыл бұрын
"Ten games that we disagree on." "This was voted on by our Patrons." Your Patrons want to see the world burn, apparently...
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA, they're a pack of anarchists!
@MrMrsBoardGame
@MrMrsBoardGame 3 жыл бұрын
Ooohhhh Naveen! Santorini, though! "Give it to someone who would really enjoy it" "I WOULD REALLY ENJOY IT!" 😂
@marybethboyd
@marybethboyd 3 жыл бұрын
I’m with Monique on Codenames- I actually love the game itself, but HATE playing at parties. In my opinion, the sweet spot for Codenames is 2v2- it’s so much better that way! One clue giver and one guesser- best way to play.
@ianotoolevideo
@ianotoolevideo 3 жыл бұрын
I love The Grizzled so much, it’s a top five game for me.
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 3 жыл бұрын
Love this vid :) It's like being at home all over again :) Rina and I disagree on Santorini, Codenames Pictures (but we both love the rest), I love Resistance and Rina hates any hidden role games...and she absolutely hates weeding her decks/bag in any game :)
@joanmoriarity8738
@joanmoriarity8738 3 жыл бұрын
My takeaway: Monique really does not enjoy downtime.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that and action selection luck!
@ScherFire
@ScherFire 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, who can blame her!?
@TheNerdShelves
@TheNerdShelves 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Naveen couldn't win Star Realms so he just got rid of it, hahaha. So great! Also, our group has discussed this at length and we do not like how Codenames is classified as a "party game." We love it, but there is too much silence for being a part game, lol.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, a few people have mentioned that about Codenames. We never really though about it like that before. Star Realms had to go, no matter the small footprint lol! PS had my morning coffee out of your mug today! ;-)
@TheNerdShelves
@TheNerdShelves 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeforeYouPlay tee-hee-hee, that's amazing😊♥️
@joerobert7847
@joerobert7847 3 жыл бұрын
Grand Austria is a great game. Monique, Monique, Monique. Oh my!!!
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I know, we just need to make it so she’s on the lucky side for once.
@j.r.cilliangreen4083
@j.r.cilliangreen4083 3 жыл бұрын
I much prefer Lorenzo to this...so I am with Monique on this...
@adamkenney6932
@adamkenney6932 3 жыл бұрын
Great list and video! We had trouble with Grand Austria at first, but now it's one of my favorites. Lots of things you mentioned are actually accounted for. You can pass to reroll dice, there are starting sets of cards you can play with (or you can draft), and getting a new guest can be expensive, so the luck is mitigated. We've played it maybe seven times and the length of the game has surprised us. It's only seven rounds with two actions each, usually amounting to 45 minutes. I really recommend rereading that rulebook and giving it another shot. Thanks for the video!
@northlakeghost
@northlakeghost 3 жыл бұрын
Grand Austria Hotel is best at 2 I think. More players and things quickly devolve. Have you guys played much one-on-one? That's where it shines imo. Really enjoyed this list!
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we played it again 3-4 months ago and Monique still wasn’t jazzed.
@shadowjack22
@shadowjack22 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised by Monique‘s reaction to codenames. My experience has been completely different. I’ve played it in many groups with people who don’t usually play games and it’s very popular. Usually with three to five people on a side. And we never see turns finishing quickly. Since words have multiple meanings, we often see very clever clues that attempt to link answers in subtle ways. A friend of mine clued five correct answers once with the word ‘Skywalker”.
@pjarnfelt
@pjarnfelt 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I think the internal debating in the guessing group is a crucial part of that game.
@BeingFriends
@BeingFriends 3 жыл бұрын
I like Codenames, BUT it's nowhere near as good as Decrypto!!!
@AccordingToPlandrew
@AccordingToPlandrew 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah players definitely get more play time in Decrypto relative to player count
@blottieb
@blottieb 3 жыл бұрын
Grand Austria is 100% one of my favorite games of all time.
@mattlorz5123
@mattlorz5123 3 жыл бұрын
I think you guys need to give GAH another try. There are definitely starter sets of staff cards listed as "Recommended sets" on page 11 of the rule book. Also, once you have played a few times, the total play time in a two player game is very fast (usually less than 45 mins).
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
I (Naveen) enjoy it and would definitely like to play it some more, unfortunately I'll have to wait till Covid lifts since Monique won't touch it with a 10 foot pole lol.
@chuckm1961
@chuckm1961 3 жыл бұрын
You are a lucky man. I have no friends who do not play slowly and deliberately. There is no way a game of grand Austria hotel is going to take less than 90 minutes in my world, even with two players.
@Cissewis
@Cissewis 3 жыл бұрын
Woaw, it just feels so recent that I watched your Bora Bora video when it first came out... And you're now almost 20K subscribers later ;-)! Thanks again for the great video!
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
🎉 Yeah it's insane!! It continues to be a blast for us and it's great to always see your comments. =)
@Blokoddity
@Blokoddity 3 жыл бұрын
Grizzled is one of my favorites as well- some of my friends think it’s too depressing- but I think it’s beautiful; you’re supporting your friends through a tough time! The one time a group of three of us won we exploded with triumph (concerning the rest of the patrons of a quiet bar...). Great video! I love hearing such thoughtful takes. Also, shout out to Hive, another goodie!
@swvi9459
@swvi9459 3 жыл бұрын
I really dislike Mansions of Madness also. Using the app in a board game is so wrong. Eldritch Horror or Cthulhu Death may die are much better choices for that theme. Also, try Hero Realms, one of the most underrated games ever. For me, much better then Space Realms
@TRoberti023
@TRoberti023 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised about the way you play Codenames! You take turns guessing on the clues? When I play, it’s always the whole group working together and debating which words pertain to the clue, and any of the members can touch the word cards, so everyone is fully involved every turn!
@ramorgan1
@ramorgan1 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, seems wrong. The codemaster is the only one "separate" but the guessing side of the team should all be participating equally!
@piotrx6498
@piotrx6498 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that - we always have the opposite team trying to be 'helpful' by suggesting the craziest connections between the clue and every single word on the board :D The only real waiting is if the codemaster takes long to come up with the next clue but even then you can think about missed clues from the past
@TRoberti023
@TRoberti023 3 жыл бұрын
@@piotrx6498 true, that part is hilarious! hahahaha :)
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
We do play it that way, it's just that Monique isn't a fan of the aggressive players dominating the conversation / waiting for the other team to take their turn. Worse is when the clue giver gives a 1-2 word clue.
@TRoberti023
@TRoberti023 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeforeYouPlay Oh I see, that's a fair point! :)
@LazySleestack
@LazySleestack 2 жыл бұрын
I with Monique on The Grizzled, it is a game that is ALMOST as fun as the trench warfare of World War I.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!!
@davidvelazquez677
@davidvelazquez677 3 жыл бұрын
Grand Austria is soooooo good!! My number 1 right now. I love how it’s a medium weight euro that I can teach to others who aren’t gamers
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
It certainly fits a good level of complexity. Just wish there was more control over which actions you can take and also the turn order sequence causes lots of problems at 3+ players.
@5ammy13
@5ammy13 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, found you guys recently and love the production, the lists, the way you explain games and the playthroughs too. My only recommendation for these Top 10 lists is to leave the names of the games in the bottom right corner until you get to the next game. This will help get through some of the videos for time-poor people or when you're in a hurry and want to get the list.
@Jemethyy
@Jemethyy 3 жыл бұрын
Monique needs to replace Codenames with Decrypto. Completely fixes the issues I've had with Codenames...so much better, whether it's on your turn or on the other team's turn.
@propress20
@propress20 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo à vous deux, je pense que vous pourriez peut-être présenter des images des jeux (ex sur BGG) pendant vos commentaires.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup! L'ajout d'images supplémentaires ajouterait malheureusement beaucoup de temps au processus d'édition.
@propress20
@propress20 3 жыл бұрын
Bonne continuation !
@Gathanokos
@Gathanokos 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that was an exciting list of games I love Santorini so much I actually backed their new game on Kickstarter (Ragnarocks) XD I totally agree with Codename pictures. It was more engaging than the original and because the pictures are so abstract it has more potential for funny moments
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Heard good things from some friends about the new KS game. Pictures hands down for both of us.
@paulw2813
@paulw2813 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Santorini! Im currently playing through EVERY God power with a friend. ( including promo gods). Ill play with you anytime, Monique!
@dkoudrin
@dkoudrin 2 жыл бұрын
Haha Mansions of Madness is the perfect game to bust out once a year on a dark rainy night
@benrichardson2837
@benrichardson2837 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this! I'm also of the opinion that every game gets at least two plays. Almost every game is well-liked in the collection. However, The Estates has only been played once so far, but it fell very flat (I like it). I haven't played GAH, but the snake draft is a reason I'll really only look to play Sagrada at 2p - it's insane to me that they came out with a 5p/6p expansion for that game... This video reminded me of your 'games you don't like' video. I've recently picked up Gloomhaven: Jaws of the Lion. Like Monique mentioned in that video, I too am not into RPG or that style of game at all (Lisboa #1!), but I've been really surprised by how enjoyable it's been at 2p. I didn't disagree with a person, per se, but more so a game based on a genre. Happy to have been wrong!
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Would never want to play Sagrada with 5+, 4 is even pushing it too. Glad you tried Jaws of the Lion, it's still one we haven't had a chance to play. We didn't enjoy regular Gloomhaven but have heard great things bout JOTL for people like us!
@littlebluecubes
@littlebluecubes 3 жыл бұрын
For each of these top 10 games, if you also mentioned how often you win these (you did for some), would have given a nice perspective too. Losing and disliking are known to have a very strong correlation. Not 100% correlation but over 75% I think.
@markschaal6050
@markschaal6050 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see that research. Personally I tend to dislike games that I find too easy to win.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Monique wins 3/5 games we play. And 100% of Star Realms LOL.
@MarkWardReacts
@MarkWardReacts 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeforeYouPlay I have noticed that Monique seems to win more than you... :D She's a very good board game player so don't feel too bad. ;-)
@bryanscollick8305
@bryanscollick8305 3 жыл бұрын
NOOOO! Naveen - not Mansions of Madness!! Here's a house rule that will help - each investigator takes 3 actions instead of two. That might help you feel like you are accomplishing something on every turn!
@DukensteinA1
@DukensteinA1 3 жыл бұрын
I may have to do this. I really don’t like the “always behind the 8ball and you can’t recover” feeling of the game (and most of the Arkham games).
@aonline_abridged
@aonline_abridged 3 жыл бұрын
Me: Significant other, wasn't that great? Significant other: It was...an experience Me: I know rightt!?! We can try this other scenario tomorrow, maybe we can invite so and so Significant other: I don't really want to play it so soon 1 year later, Me: how about now? can we play it again now? :(
@aonline_abridged
@aonline_abridged 3 жыл бұрын
Also, Mage wars is my #1 black sheep game, I love that game but my husband wont play it with me, he tried once but his speellbook was badly constructed so he got frustrated and never agreed to play it again...then my #1 gaming friend 'got over' it....:( I miss Mage Wars.
@yogibbear
@yogibbear 3 жыл бұрын
Yes GAH has 4 starting basic hands ABCD, or you can draft for them.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for clarifying that. Couldn’t remember
@KenDudd
@KenDudd 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Grand Austria, but we ONLY play it at 2. The snake drafting is a game killer.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@valnarz9550
@valnarz9550 3 жыл бұрын
Do you ever use handicapping? In my play group we play Star Realms with handicapping so people who lose regularly start with more life (like 60 instead of 50 etc.). We use poker chips for life (don't really like the cards they have for your life). You can adjust the life totals as you keep records of peoples wins and losses, it keeps the game fun even in just 2 player duels.
@jellevancamp7190
@jellevancamp7190 3 жыл бұрын
My pick would be 7 wonders Duel. I so dislike this game :) Limited choices as you often pick between two lesser evils or two cards that don't do anything for you, actually it feels more hate drafting than anything else. I so wanted to like this game, but in the end, after 4-5 plays I gave up and sold my copy. I really do not get what makes 7wonders Duel fun.
@AltarenGalil
@AltarenGalil 3 жыл бұрын
Star realms is one of my favorite games! Such a pure and distilled deck building experience. Its small, fast, easy to learn but with surprising depth. If you're getting it again go for Frontiers, its more balanced and has more formats including solo and coop play. For me Frontiers with a couple expansions (either a balance of dual faction ones or the starship/starbase packs) is the perfect game. Would be the last to leave my collection.
@pnutbutrncrackers
@pnutbutrncrackers 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and good idea for a video. Sometimes I was with M and sometimes with N. One thing I find interesting in the board game hobby is how people like/dislike different game mechanisms (passionately), including me. For example, some people's greatest enjoyment of time is to build and build and build (a world, an army, a city, etc.). They could do it for days if not weeks straight. Frankly, that has never excited me. There are a thousand things I'd rather do. On the other hand I've always liked a Sherlock Holmes-type of mystery (deduction), whereas it puts others right to sleep. Oh well.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great point, people love different things and sometimes it can be polarizing haha. Thanks btw! Really appreciate it.
@FostertheMeeple
@FostertheMeeple 3 жыл бұрын
Love this! ha Code Names also doesn't spark joy for Jeff but I think that's only because he is terrible at giving clues! haha Also with Mansions of Madness, it can be a big struggle with only two players (we've learned this the hard way) but gets much better if each player uses 2 characters! Maybe when you try it out again test that out to see if that helps! :) Great video as always!
@maximef1
@maximef1 3 жыл бұрын
Friendly tip from a viewer, I'd recommend putting a simple picture of the game (likely in a corner, but during the whole video, not just at the very start) of the video when you're talking about it. A quick overview of what will be talked would be appreciated. Nice video regardless!
@JEV03
@JEV03 3 жыл бұрын
I’m with Naveen on Santorini but I still enjoy it enough to use it as a filler on tabletopia when I’m playing with my family. It kinda feels like tic-tac-toe to me but I do think it’s a good game. I’m curious whether the NYC spinoff will spice it up for me!
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Oh we haven't heard of the new spin off. I'd assume you are stacking sky scrapers?
@JEV03
@JEV03 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeforeYouPlay Pretty much. It's called Santorini: New York and BGG calls it a "sequel" but apparently it implements card play in a very critical way that from the little I've heard about it, feels less like a 2p abstract and more like a multiplayer euro as a result.
@aweso
@aweso 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video idea. I love Nippon, Bora Bora, Grand Austria Hotel, and The Resistance, but for all four I can get why not everyone would like any of them. And I totally agree with Monique about Codenames. The only Vlaada game I really like is Pictomania, that definitely gives me more of the party game vibe.
@Justpier3d
@Justpier3d 3 жыл бұрын
My group really liked Troyes, I absolutely hated it. One of the few I will outright refuse to play with the group.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, we just recently covered Troyes. It was frustrating for 1 of the players we played with in a 4 player game.
@ambarishprakash16
@ambarishprakash16 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with Naveen on Hive and Santorini. I feel they are very chess like games that require thinking ahead 5/6 moves+ if you want to win, rather than other games where you probably have to only plan your next 1/2 turns. They go into deep strategy which Ive not been a strong fan of.
@skipmcilvaine
@skipmcilvaine 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't want Nippon any more, I would love to buy it from you. 😊
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Skip I don’t want to have to make that call!!!
@dkoudrin
@dkoudrin 2 жыл бұрын
Grand Austria Hotel is a 15 minute game when playing online with 2 players 😀
@danieltownley7436
@danieltownley7436 3 жыл бұрын
"Alright so this is our last one, our number one. This is one that I think we both agree on IS the number one game that we disagree on." "Yeah.... maybe" Hahaha
@DimitriosAlexis
@DimitriosAlexis 3 жыл бұрын
Bora Bora is A-MAZ-ING!
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I (Naveen) like it but Monique got a bad taste after our first time and it doesn't look like she will recover lol.
@DimitriosAlexis
@DimitriosAlexis 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeforeYouPlay I had the same feeling. My mind, and taste, has completely changed. It's a brilliant game. Monique should try it again, and watch the magic wash over.
@terryskinner5436
@terryskinner5436 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with Naveen on Star Realms. It's a fun little filler but it feels like it's always my wife's turn when the Brain Base comes out. I'd like a Brain Base sometimes.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!!!
@Viragomp
@Viragomp 3 жыл бұрын
My fave game, Grand Austria Hotel, but I've only ever played it at 2P.
@Bansheeeable
@Bansheeeable 3 жыл бұрын
10. awesome fast game 9. tremendous game for 3 or more 8.not familiar,must try. 7.have not play it,not interested. 6.no really abstract fan...backing Naveen here. 5.still no fan of abstract,but,will like to play it. 4.meh,probably like it,maybe with the right group. 3.have not play it,will like to tho. 2.LOVE IT!!!!!! Naveeen...jajajaja come on. 1.not play it,can't coment either.
@waferjuice
@waferjuice 3 жыл бұрын
hi, for your game lists, please include MORE photos of gameplay instead of just the cover and then thats it.
@uplift-yourdailypickup6424
@uplift-yourdailypickup6424 11 ай бұрын
Awww I really like Grand Austria Hotel. It's a bit sparse on player interaction but I think the puzzle is really fun. Do you enjoy other games from these designers, like Lorenzo Il Magnifico?
@musicforall1859
@musicforall1859 Жыл бұрын
Monique, you should try Golem, if you don't like Grand Austria Hotel. I've heard it's kinda similar, but Golem is a bit heavier (but not in rules sets, rather the complexity comes the decision in gameplay). I haven't played GAH, because i do not like rolling dice in euro games at all. Golem is sooo good!
@shortydancer
@shortydancer Жыл бұрын
Wait Monique doesn’t like GAH? I don’t think we can be friends anymore lol. Jk. Kinda though. It’s so good though. Just play two player to enjoy it!
@Skorrigan
@Skorrigan 28 күн бұрын
I'm with Naveen on most of the games, liking or disliking.
@bridgetgilmore1230
@bridgetgilmore1230 3 жыл бұрын
+++++1 about Hive! I too have tried to get rid of hive - my partner plays sooooo slowly and it drives me nuts lol
@AccordingToPlandrew
@AccordingToPlandrew 3 жыл бұрын
love narrative/reading in games, I think that just means I gotta turn my game nights into book readings
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@petergross7235
@petergross7235 3 жыл бұрын
I struggle a lot with abstract strategy games. I want to like them, but they just don't do it for me. Great list, thanks!
@JudgeFyre
@JudgeFyre 3 жыл бұрын
If you ever play Mansions of Madness again, try the Shattered Bonds scenario. For me, that's the best scenario in the base game, because the narrative really mattered. What really surprised me was the first small expansion, Beyond the Threshold, because that has a scenario about solving a whodunnit murder mystery. It made me realize what the game system is capable of
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, I’m definitely down to try it again. What’s the ideal player count for you?
@JudgeFyre
@JudgeFyre 3 жыл бұрын
My group always plays it with 5 players
@windyhillbomber
@windyhillbomber 3 жыл бұрын
Grand Austria is so much fun and the new expansion looks to make it even better. Importantly the new expansion introduces a more sensible turn order mechanic. The dice rolling really isn’t a luck outcome but rather dictates action selection for the current round. In that way, each player is equally impacted.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to now deep dive into the new version of the game. Monique biggest gripe is action choices that are based on luck in a strategy game.
@windyhillbomber
@windyhillbomber 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeforeYouPlay I agree when such luck elements unfairly favour one player over another but I really don’t think that is an issue in GAH. Firstly there are some mitigating actions that can be taken and secondly, the dice roll outcome only dictates how many times a certain action can be taken during that round.
@filipb3839
@filipb3839 2 жыл бұрын
Nemesis! Way too random...the 90% of the time you just move and search! No interaction for an amerigame and very slow and boring to play! The lack of a common and visible goal, makes everything pointless with no real accusation between the players the way in a real semi-coop it should be! The personal objective cards don't work...someone else can fulfil your goal randomly during the game, with no effort on your end! On top of that it's very unbalanced and you can die easily at the very beginning waiting hours before the end, or you can take control of the intruders which makes no sense! It's all based on recreating the atmospheres from the first 2 Alien movies (not even close) but missing all the rest! Moreover way too expensive for the material it has to offer...the miniatures are very weak! Terrible game overall!!! Dead of Winter and Battlestar Galactica are the definitive semi-cooperative games to look up to!
@johnmarkrountree6196
@johnmarkrountree6196 15 күн бұрын
Well one reason why Naveen should like Santorini is because his picture is on the cover lid of the game.
@progress_games
@progress_games 3 жыл бұрын
Have you guys played Slay the Spire before?
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Monique plays! She loves it!
@progress_games
@progress_games 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeforeYouPlay Awesome! I'm loving the content :)
@Farbulous007
@Farbulous007 Жыл бұрын
Grand Austria Hotel is also divisive in my gaming group. I first experienced it at 2p, which is probably the best player count, although I think 3p is fine as well. 4p makes the game longer than it should be and tighter as well. I absolutely love this game, but it has to be at the right player count, and to be fair there are much better Simone Luciani games out there.
@improg
@improg Жыл бұрын
"That's the whole game!" HA HA HA! -- I don't think you can be lukewarm about Fantasy Realms.
@amethystwolf24572
@amethystwolf24572 Жыл бұрын
Mansions of Madness 2E is not for me. More than anything else, I dislike how few scenarios you get for your money. I also dislike the massive amount of set-up it takes and the clunky slotted bases. I also dislike that many turns felt like there weren't any interesting choices to make. Its very easy to get all the way across the room from anything helpful, have bad rolls, etc. I'd still play it for my partner, but its not my speed.
@greginfla_1
@greginfla_1 3 жыл бұрын
You liked Madeira but not Nippon? I think Madeira is heavy just to be heavy... the depth wasn’t justified with game experience.
@thgenral
@thgenral 3 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful couple you two are. Handsome and beautiful...you pick which applies to whom. Also, smart like my wife. Only way to go in a woman!
@SignatureStampsFan
@SignatureStampsFan 3 жыл бұрын
*Hears GAH* ugh lol. This is a top ten game for me. I love this game so much.
@bluelionman
@bluelionman 3 жыл бұрын
I gave up - I don't class card games as board games - I mean where the board in the games you describe? Might as well chuck in normal cards, uno, dice! 🙄
@jamesbrazeal3847
@jamesbrazeal3847 3 жыл бұрын
I think I am only person who does not like Fantasy Realms. Naveen we usually agree. It may be short but is is an incredibly painful short game. I will always chose to skip. I gave away my copy.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Haha it just never gets better for me (Naveen). Every time I play it I try to have an open mind too...
@seanh5671
@seanh5671 3 жыл бұрын
I've gotta side with Monique on Codenames, but probably for a different reason. The #1 rule of a party game for me is that everyone should be laughing. Codenames just feels too serious and vanilla. We may as well just be playing Trivial Pursuit! I got rid of Half Truth for the same reason, and have never even bothered to try Just One. I'll take Telestrations or Balderdash any day of the week over those.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
You're right, the celebration is pretty much only after a correct guess that was iffy in the moment. We are big fans of Just One, my family (non-gamers) are always willing to play a few rounds of it.
@nreekm
@nreekm 3 жыл бұрын
I get you. I HATE mansions of Madness. It's not even a game, it's just randomness after randomness while you look at an app for the majority of the time. I lost it and I won it and both cases felt the same cuz I felt like I had no merit from the outcome of the play.
@kirstyriordan5977
@kirstyriordan5977 2 жыл бұрын
have you guys ever played cartoon crossover? that's a great deckbuilding game. definitely my favourite.
@VeraDeVera
@VeraDeVera 2 жыл бұрын
I love Nippon…and I’ll begrudgingly play Codenames online only and prefer Just One for a party word game.
@TheYashakami
@TheYashakami 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but its probably not pronounced knee-pawn, but rather knee-p-own. Nippon is the Japanese name for Japan.
@scottie771
@scottie771 2 жыл бұрын
On point with Grand Austria Hotel and the Grizzled, I also find all abstract games boring and avoid them at all costs :P
@Mrhofer
@Mrhofer 3 жыл бұрын
A friend just purchased Mansions of Madness and they are super excited to play it, but I've watched it played before and it seems so boring to me. Gotta give it a chance, but I'm sorta dreading it.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Just go in with an open mind and enjoy your time with your friend. Going in with a positive attitude/mindset will likely make the experience more enjoyable. If after you're not into it, avoid like the plague! haha
@wrightknight5508
@wrightknight5508 3 жыл бұрын
I feel your deck building pain Naveen. Sacrificing starter or low value cards is tough for me too. If you are going to try again, I’d recommend Shards of Infinity instead of Star Realms. Low barrier to entry, quick, simple, and has a solid solo mode (in the first expansion) in case you don’t take to it.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Several people have specifically recommended that game to me (Naveen) in the past. I'm definitely open to trying it out!
@JPNox
@JPNox 3 жыл бұрын
1:36 I thought flavor text is a text that adds flavor (theme) but has no impact on gameplay, usually some interesting quote written in italics
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think you're right about that actually. What we meant to say was just cards in general with a lot of gameplay text haha. There's definitely a difference.
@BobbyReichle
@BobbyReichle 3 жыл бұрын
I also don't like Codenames! I've had a few games where some people have dominated the conversation and tanked the team while they did it. Just two bad experiences, taped together. But Codenames walked so Wavelength can run.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
It's always funny seeing the look of those people who fought so hard for a word and are proven wrong lol!!!
@Straddllw
@Straddllw 2 жыл бұрын
I love Bora Bora and Grand Austria Hotel. On the other hand, I really dislike Hive and is meh on Santorini. I get you Naveen
@BirdieMoonEDU
@BirdieMoonEDU 3 жыл бұрын
Santorini?!?!?!? I did not expect to see that on here. Lol Personally, I prefer the Santorini game app.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
I know!! It's a good game no doubt, just not for me (Naveen). Turns just don't seem very interesting and it's a lot of "so close but nope!"
@MarkWardReacts
@MarkWardReacts 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of your most entertaining videos because of the natural conflict. :D The ones I feel strongly on... Man I HATE Hive. What a boring game and I forget what the pieces do every time. I don't think I've ever won it - one of my best friends loves it so I've been forced to play it a few times... Codenames - I get it, it's easy for non-gamers to understand, but I have so many issues with it, because it's almost impossible not to cheat in some way. Even when you try not to, the clue giver can't help but pull the odd face or do some kind of tell that gives away when their team are about to do the wrong thing. I find it so annoying. I played it online a couple of times and that worked a lot better oddly. Finally, I love The Resistance - a bit old school now, but so much fun! :) Great video as always!
@alicia1465
@alicia1465 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried Ascension, especially the later sets? It is the same base as Star Realms, but a little more interesting. It is fun to play on the app
@alicia1465
@alicia1465 Жыл бұрын
On Grand Austria Hotel, get the expansion! Gives you more options.
@onepipwonder915
@onepipwonder915 3 жыл бұрын
Naveen, the secret to Star Realms is the Blobs... just collect ALLL the Blobs. You might still lose, but at the very least, its fun causing havoc for the other player :D very fun video guys!
@devonnorris6755
@devonnorris6755 3 жыл бұрын
How does Naveen like Red Rising if he doesn't care for Fantasy Realms?
@tylert.5357
@tylert.5357 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I was gonna ask the same question.
@chuckm1961
@chuckm1961 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylert.5357 Because it’s a different game, with a larger set of variables and scoring mechanisms, thus more to work with in terms of balancing strategy. Yep. The main mechanism is the same. I’m aware.
@christianbank393
@christianbank393 3 жыл бұрын
I got rid of GAH a long time ago, but recently played it on Yucata and really enjoyed it for some reason! Now i'm second guessing myself.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe grab the newer version!
@j.rogers7506
@j.rogers7506 3 жыл бұрын
What are Dexter’s favorite games ? Just asking for fun 🙂. Good video 🙂
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Ball, especially backyard ball!
@dangerousbeans2907
@dangerousbeans2907 3 жыл бұрын
Play Fantasy Realms with the proper 2 player variant. It’s way better. ;)
@Tr1n1tyNZ
@Tr1n1tyNZ 3 жыл бұрын
Have you played Red Rising and if so, do you prefer that or Fantasy Realms better?
@inz55
@inz55 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Games definitely bring out strong feelings sometimes. One way or another. :) I was really surprised to find my all time number one game in your "disagree on" list. I just LOVE Grand Austria Hotel. I know it's really only good with two players. I know it has a few flaws. But I still love it more than any other game. Waiting for the expansion, that will replace the "snake draft" and add extra content.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
We knew GAH would be controversial lol. Excited to see what the new version has to offer. I (Naveen) didn't really do any research on it because I knew Monique wasn't a big fan.
@teratoma.
@teratoma. 3 жыл бұрын
hive is a masterpiece dude u cant say these things 😢
@raymyers700
@raymyers700 3 жыл бұрын
1:12 is when I knew were were in for some good times!
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video!
@beneisen6982
@beneisen6982 3 жыл бұрын
My wife doesn't like Santorini because of the pieces being too white.
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!
@timstimbre9762
@timstimbre9762 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, Monique's not a fan of Bora Bora, Troyes, Grand Austria Hotel... Just chuckin' dice here but I'm starting to see a pattern here... ;-)
@BeforeYouPlay
@BeforeYouPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Monique's favorite mechanism is Worker Placement, her issue is that the dice luck shouldn't be the determining factor on which action you are allowed to take in a strategy game.
@timstimbre9762
@timstimbre9762 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeforeYouPlay Totally understand, there are options of mitigating those stubborn dottycubes (for instance the trashcan in GAH) it often comes at the cost of a less effective action that turn. It's like when I say my piano playing is 'lively' and my teacher would just say 'no, it's happily unbalanced'. :-)
@veerchasm1
@veerchasm1 Жыл бұрын
GAH was not a good game. Voyages of Marco Polo was a better game by same designer
@melissab9209
@melissab9209 4 ай бұрын
Also not a big fan of Codenames. Or deduction games in general.
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