10 Doctor Who Episodes Where Evil Won

The Doctor doesn't always come out on top.
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[@Guerreropowerr]

never thought I'd hear Ellie say "rawdogging" but here we are

[@douglaswhittaker1991]

Yeah, that was a bit of a shock

[@usersilhouettes]

tbh im not even surprised atp

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

Does Ellie prefer dogs cooked, then?

[@igorschmidlapp6987]

@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 With brown mustard and a bun (to be "covered")? ;-P

[@darkwolf7740]

You have to hope that you don't see it too now haha

[@TexasTimeLord]

Ten's "holier than thou" actions causing Harriet Jones to have to resign as PM directly led to the Master becoming PM. Worse, when he was Doctor #9 he said that in the future Harriet Jones would usher in Britain's golden age. He changed history for the worse.

[@NiennaFan1]

Yeah, he really fucked up

[@Cyklopz007]

I love those Dalek redesigns. Not as a replacement but they should be their own faction or something.

[@KnightRanger38]

I would say there is a big difference between episodes were the Doctor doesn't win and stories where that is the case, especially when counting multi-part(episode) stories.

[@Jim_The_Fish]

Sleep No More? The villain won and our whole universe got taken over. That episode has to be chalked up as a parallel universe or something. But it definitely counts.

[@odt_blazerboy9831]

They won Im sle

[@FalloutJack]

The planet, maybe, but the universe? Nah. The rest of the cosmos didn't dust, so it must've been contained to a single planet by the Doctor.

[@Jim_The_Fish]

@ did you not see how it ended? It’s implied that it spread to everyone.

[@FalloutJack]

@@Jim_The_Fish 'Tis open-ended, but thank you for weighing in, Jim The Fish. We love Jim The Fish. 😁

[@queenskelaton6507]

As far as I remember the ending the doctor died like full stop so yeah it's the universe besides the obvious like a massive dalek or cosmic being attack time and again the show has pointed out that the doctor dying is like lighting the timeline like a fuse as it slow burns away even past events

[@mr.vanillamilkshake3]

There's also GUS, the AI from "Mummy on the Orient Express". Even if the murders themselves were dealt with, the big bad (or at least the person behind him) still got away scot-free.

[@Jim_The_Fish]

I want a reappearance from GUS and Perkins. Would be delightful.

[@pyrosixtey2]

I just made a comment of some I think we’re better choices. I’d like a follow up video of commenter addition of this video

[@AdamCronchey]

@@Jim_The_Fish I think he was at one point going to return in Oxygen.

[@doctorjay8673]

I love the parallel in The Doctor Falls and Deep Breath with the Doctor being carried in the same pose as the Half Face Man in his FIRST episode as the Doctor.

[@TheWanderer1000000]

The Victory of the Daleks isn't as heartbreaking as Doomsday. In Doomsday, the Daleks and the Cyberman trap Rose for eternity in a parallel universe. Evil won that episode.

[@rebeccamcdermott9259]

Not really cause they were defeated. Rose could easily have ended up with them and ended up dead. At least she survives even if it means ending up in a parallel universe for the rest of her life.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@TheWanderer1000000 They had bigger plans than trapping someone.

[@alunrundle162]

No mention of 'Inferno'? Where the Third Doctor loses an entire Earth before just managing to save this one?

[@evilrabbid1019]

I love Dr who villains after video:Man they can be ruthless

[@AlexFletcher-w4s]

Midnight is probably the most disturbing of the lot because we never find out what the 'thing' is - which is always scarier - and it's pretty much a fluke that the Doctor survives at all. Which would have been bad news for Donna, first of all, then the entire universe later on! I would say, having been reminded of the business with the Pandorica, that constantly upping the stakes to the limit is what may have led to the lapse in the series in later years. Once we get to Jodie's Doctor being on the receiving end of a mass extinction event - just to shut her up - and Time itself being personified, then where else can you feasibly go? Sutekh suddenly feels like a downgrade!

[@happyslapsgiving5421]

The real #1 *HEAVEN SENT* The Doctor dies. Yes, the guy we've been following from 1963 to 2015... he dies. Several of his clones die, too.

[@charlestownsend9280]

If that's the case then the doctor died way earlier, when they first got teleported in classic who.

[@queenskelaton6507]

I know it's not necessarily a bad guy but legooplios thats a no win situation that whole thing is going to run out eventually

[@trainsandscifi]

You forgot a lot of more, as many said: Inferno, Sleep No More.. but also The Aztecs and The Five Doctors, The Pyramids at the End of the World?

[@daymienbunao2763]

The Halloween Apocalypse? Half the universe burns and disintegrates, no undo button

[@ofskittlez]

That only kinda happened.

[@northerner3861]

If Chibnall wrote it... good luck getting it acknowledged :P

[@darkwolf7740]

@@northerner3861 Yeah, I remember in Flux they said that the "final point of the Flux is Earth". I mean, it even said that in the script. Then suddenly in 'The Vanquishers' when the Flux approached the "final point" it had only destroyed half of the universe, and they don't even fix the universe afterwards?

[@josephcooter5763]

Umm, I would not call the sound of drums a win. It is a cliffhanger where they set up the season finale. I am not sure that you should count cliffhangers.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

series*

[@josephcooter5763]

@DrWhoFanJ season. I live in the states and we call it a season. The series is the entire show.

[@thepandorica1660]

​@@josephcooter5763 I don't like this guys attitude, but the reason it's Series 3 and not Season isn't necessarily because of British... It's because even in the UK the classic era have 'seasons' and the modern ones are called 'series' in order to differentiate them both

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ Series. Where you live is irrelevant. The two terms have specific terms in DWU-related contexts.

[@thepandorica1660]

​@@DrWhoFanJmay I ask? Is there a single comment you've made which doesn't involve 'correcting' people?

[@Orle_Theandril]

2:00 - Something i thought about the last few days. If Sutekh glued himself to the TARDIS 50 years ago and if we assume that it was no problem for him to survive the BigBang... Was Sutekh duplicated as well in the moment as 15 hammered the TARDIS of 14?

[@richardbradley2802]

I am with you on those awful Daleks, what a mess up of an iconic enemy!

[@DanBrizuela]

It’s often a good thing the doctor doesn’t always win. Gives a real surprise and keeps it from being stale

[@tenzhitihsien888]

The presence of Brian Blessed automatically balances out any apparent victories of evil.

[@Domihork]

It's kind of ironic that Daleks were part of the alliance that wanted to prevent the Doctor from destroying reality when just a season earlier they wanted to destroy all reality across all universes...

[@R_SENAL]

I think Krau Timmin had a sort of triumph over evil in Caves of Androzani, although it isn't certain or likely she'd be any better than Morgus, but she did take down a baddie.

[@dragonfire420blazin8]

Surprised you didn't mention the Angels in Manhattan. That alone sent the Doctor into depression.

[@the-scamp]

It's great to hear Ellie's clipped tones again

[@AlexFletcher-w4s]

It says something 'The Caves of Androzani' (part 4 of which was broadcast on my birthday - so that was a bit of a downer) that it ends with a new Doctor who, in the weeks to comes, proved highly objectionable, but was still more cuddly than anyone we meet in that story. In retrospect, it's quite funny how the programme churned out something that felt like something Ridley Scott might have done one minute, then followed it up with something Roger Corman might have done the next!

[@josephcooter5763]

Last but not least, Caves of Androzani socks because there is no faction you can root for. They’re like the characters on Sienfeld: totally unlikable.

[@tomplayzgamer]

I liked the coloured Daleks

[@tnlwithtrixiekat478]

River still pretending to be Ellie telling us all about the doctor through Vlogs instead of a diary. (It was filled after all). ^.^

[@S_yIvie]

Silurian-naped implies that the child was a lizard

[@JJThompson3269]

I’m sorry but how did Angels of Manhattan not make this list 😮

[@jbuck8338]

Why would The War Between The Land and Sea do anything for human-silurian relations?

[@S_yIvie]

In only half of these does the evil win Them winning in half of a double episode is not winning. Both the villains and the heroes losing is not winning

[@so1opiniao]

Evil also won in Mission To The Unknown and in The Haunting Of Villa Diodati

[@thomaswilliams2780]

Well... I did have a multi-colour Dalek lunchbox for many years as a kid, so I guess marketing got a win there😂

[@isabelseton-browne5712]

2:12 I'm sorry, he'd been what?

[@Farsight-nc1ib]

Oh well, every episode of classic Who that ends in a cliffhanger must be an episode where evil wins....10 episodes and the only one where the the bad guys kinda did, they made that awful Dalek upgrade and ruined a classic design

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

4:30 That's what basically happens at the end of The Silurians too.

[@yeuxdal]

Midnight. Yikes, sooo dark

[@Matthias-g6o]

You could also count Waters of Mars, since the planet was lost and the captain killed herself 😮

[@northerner3861]

Yes, but the Dcotor was stopped from that Time Lord Victorious bilge...

[@pyrosixtey2]

I’d argue some of these don’t deserve to be in the list because a lot of what they accomplished was rewound completely or very short lived. Like sutek had no lasting impact. My picks would be daleks in manhattan. The daleks were on a breakthrough to change and be more compassionate but in the end the evil of the daleks won and a peaceful future was destroyed. 2 vashta nerada( or however it’s spelled) while the doctor saved many of the ppl in the library the enemy ended up still winning and claiming full victory over the planet. For 3 similar to number 1 with the master. Tens master destroying missy and having her regenerate undid all the good and compassion she started to gain. And 4 the adipose episode. While the enemy died in the end they still succeeded in so much death and birth of aliens.

[@Legendary3Dgamer]

Since when did the master cause the raknos to get killed and lazeraz to become that monster?!?

[@Sparx632]

The Raknoss was killed when the army blew up her ship on PM Harold Saxon’s orders and Lazarus’s eternal youth project was funded by Saxon. Harold Saxon was the Master.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Racnoss*; Lazarus*; and since always.

[@Chocyonyt]

What about The End Of Time?

[@SithLordAnakin]

No... "The Waters of Mars" ? ...

[@CastleTrime]

Considering there goal was to reach Earth and infected it they arguable failed. Especially since the nuke might have exterminate them considering they never return. They chased the crew off the planet but the crew succeeded in stopping them so it was a defeat for the Flood. It just cost the crew nearly everything and showed a Dark side to the Doctor but it was far from a victory of evil.

[@michaeltortorice9876]

"Raw-dogging"??? Yikes.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

The Aztecs, Mission To The Unknown, The Massacre

[@josephcooter5763]

Again I am not entirely certain you can count Logopolis a victory for the Master . It is the middle story of a trilogy and the doctor's regeneration is the clifhanger.

[@FalloutJack]

I wouldn't exactly call Logopolis a victory. That great swath cut in the universe was done by accident. The Master may have capitalized on it, but his intention was to threaten, whereas he almost absolutely destroyed everything.

[@wes.rumbelow]

I would argue that it’s cheating to include the first part of a two-parter episode. The story isn’t finished yet, so evil hasn’t “won,” it’s just reached a high point before the story concludes with the second-parter episode. The only acceptable exception is The Sound of Drums, because a whole year has passed by the start of part 2, so that is a victory on the Master’s part.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

_The Sound of Drums_ is already the second episode of the story.

[@SassySapphireUK]

I really wish they had kept Peri's Mindwarp ending.

[@441MsVanillaRose]

Doesn’t the Master (John Simm version) look just a tad too much like E-n M-k for comfort?

[@saltywench]

I'm an American so I have no idea, is this an official Doctor Who BBC channel thing or are you some people in a basement somewhere? Are you corporate or do you have a patreon, lol?

[@michaeltortorice9876]

@@saltywench this channel is a spinoff of WhatCulture, a list video channel that usually focuses on television and movies. As you might have guessed, this channel focuses on Doctor Who, much like sister channel TrekCulture does all things Star Trek. I suppose it's as official as you consider it, though they are not affiliated with BBC. There does not appear to be a Patreon, but I might not be looking far enough.

[@ShadowsFloating]

Rawdogging, seriously?

[@alunrundle162]

The Sixth Doctor did NOT leave Peri. He was summoned and controlled by the Time Lords. He had no choice in the matter whatsoever.

[@Funnytelly-t8k]

3:06 he didn't kill the doctor 😊 5:20 the doctor did try to go back to save her but was taken by the tine lords

[@bluffleaf]

You know I like the new Doctor as a character, but the new episodes are ass.

[@LetsPlayNintendoITA2025]

10:44 hey look, it's the Dalek Rangers

[@christophk.3085]

Whats whit "Dot and Bubble?" One evil is defeted but a the outher evil will doom the rest of the suvivees and the Doktor cant do anything about it....

[@Aaarrrgh89]

Came into the comments to say this. Glad I'm not the only one to think of it!

[@mhorrighan]

half of those were reversed and don't count while there are way better examples not mentioned

[@joly6598]

lol! You know how I can tell that Ellie does NOT do her own edits, and that What Culture, *and* WHO Culture, have different editors? :)

[@charlestownsend9280]

No inferno?

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

Stahlman, his gas and the Primotds do manage to destroy one out of two Earths in Inferno. I call that a 1-1 draw.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

Sharaz Jek is almost the good guy in The Caves Of Androzani. Morgus is the villain.

[@qualitydoctor7976]

Does anybody know, does the light on top of the TARDIS pulse with the noise or are the two separate? Like if you put an oscilloscope on the noise and tracked the highs and lows of both the light pulses and noise, would the wave peaks match or not?

[@livanbard]

I like the colorful daleks and got models of them

[@torchwood00]

And so it came to pass, on Christmas Day, that the human race did cease to exist. But even then, Ellie had no concept of his greater role in events. For this was far more than humanity's end. This day was the day upon which the whole of creation would change forever. This was the day the Time Lords returned

[@davidponseigo8811]

I'm always happy for a video hosted by Ellie but I prefer when I can gaze upon your beautiful face ! I guess I will have to settle for your lovely voice !

[@johndavidhaynes7139]

Yeah,I always felt that the doctor got unfinished business from mindwarp. I heard Big finish audios took care of that mess.

[@LoriK-g6q]

I am amazed that she said The Silence won in the episode The Big Bang. The Doctor rebooted the whole universe and Amy remembered him and he came back. Then he still made it to Trenzalore later. Their plan failed.

[@MementoMoriv2]

Rawdogging the Tardis is CRAZY

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

The Delgado Master wins Terror of the Autons, the Mind of Evil and the Sea Devils.

[@iamjmph01]

Does Evil really win if it gets ""fixed" in the same episode? I mean, if it doesn't get fixed till the next episode it works but... Otherwise great episode.

[@skumchiken01]

so the god of death just sits around with no one to bother him, nothing to do in a universe with nothing but dust? that sounds insufferably boring.

[@AlexFletcher-w4s]

'I'm bored of the Daleks - but not bored of them enough to stop posting hyperbolic remarks about their upgrade on internet message boards....'

[@northerner3861]

Sneaky to cite "episodes" rather than "stories."

[@KarlWitsman]

At least the evil of the Marketing Department was defeated!!!

[@gibbnasta]

Midnight is my favorite episode.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

The Sound of Drums was only half a story. Plenty of classic series episodes ended with the villain ahead on points.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

Ditto The Pandorica Opens.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

a third of a story*

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@DrWhoFanJ half of a story with a prequel. Utopia stands on its own with a Master reborn cliffhanger like The Keeper of Traken. Same goes for Turn Left.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ Nope. _Utopia_ is officially the first of three episodes telling a single story. _Turn left_ is different because only the cliffhanger leads into the next two episodes, not the rest of the episode (whereas it’s the same humans from _Utopia_ that become the Toclafane in the other two episodes).

[@Chris-et2fm]

Eh, I liked the Thicc Daleks

[@cloverhunter8083]

RAWDOGGING

[@liamduffin1985]

First 🎉

[@markdaniels1146]

First one here! Lol

[@the-scamp]

Lol@the narrator: "The MaRRster"

[@DittoGTI]

It's just how southerners sound?

[@the-scamp]

@DittoGTI Yes. I think the girl who presents this may be from Berkshire

[@NguyễnNgọcPhươngng]

My grandmother says true love is when you can laugh together at videos like this👅

[@ViVănThànhnh]

Wenn ich so viel Selbstvertrauen hätte wie der Typ in diesem Video, wäre ich schon Präsident🌺