10 Horrific Fates Suffered By Doctor Who Characters

[@o.o5258]

I think I’d prefer to die than become a face on a slab for the rest of eternity.

[@NewhamMatt]

What could be worse? Being in "Love and Monsters" perhaps.

[@Kooma4Yew1600]

But....the love life line.....

[@MattL3457]

Imagine having to perform oral sex as a slab of concrete ...

[@FinleyPowell-gg8sq]

But you wouldn’t die either way, because you have the high ground

[@bebriden8158]

@@MattL3457 well I'm bi so... ;)

[@olivermetcalfe9731]

No no, we all know that the most horrific fate was Donna noble when she had to move to Leeds in turn left

[@charmedrools1]

coulda been worse. coulda moved to birmingham

[@olivermetcalfe9731]

@@charmedrools1 that's very true

[@MattL3457]

Chris bromley-west could be worse than that ... Bradford. And I live near the dump.

[@TheGoodReverendSatan]

When Donna Nobel left the library because she's been saved..

[@paulparker5187]

Matthew Leahy or dewsbury 😢

[@cameron120587]

For number 4, the older Amy Pond couldn't go into the TARDIS as long as the younger one was already in there, so they couldn't take off because that would cause a time paradox. So the Doctor made Rory, her husband, decide. Rory chose the younger Amy that hadn't been left behind because they could then go forward with their lives and the older Amy would never have existed, and therefore they could escape.

[@UnknownPersononGoogle]

He should have chosen the older one who'd be a lot more experienced.

[@rosssssss177]

@@UnknownPersononGoogle experienced in what? hiding? XD

[@Chris_Cross]

Oh. So Amy didn't out-right die? Just the old version of her?

[@rosssssss177]

@@Chris_Cross yeah just the old version of her died

[@Chris_Cross]

@@rosssssss177 Okay. Because I was about to leave a comment asking why the hell the Doctor would abandon her to die like that, when I saw this comment, but that's not so bad then.

[@DrakeAurum]

What's grotesquesly ironic is that the immortality the Doctor bestows upon Ursula _as a mercy_ in Love and Monsters is exactly as horrific as the immortalities he bestows upon The Family _as a punishment_ in Family of Blood.

[@danthemeegs8751]

Fantastic point that I never considered!

[@Enel97]

Its because love and monsters was a weird project to please kids with crappy writing that couldnt even be saved by russel(like many of his stories) while family of blood was a master piece of writing that knew it's depth

[@vallaby2042]

That's why the family of blood is remembered a good story, and love and monsters a terrible one!

[@thebritishbagman]

Doesn't he still visit the child

[@patrickmccurry1563]

@@vallaby2042 I really despise the Family episode. It made the doctor a villain, a torturous monster. That was not the Doctor I adored as a toddler and small child in the late 70s and 80s.

[@th3vibechecker]

“Landed on a Planet that was under quarantine due to a viral outbreak” _Hmmmmmmmm_

[@jackeccles1333]

Get the cure and '"you get it and you die in a day" hmmmmmm

[@generalkenobi4707]

Where have I heard this before?

[@dole8001]

Subnautica

[@Lin.QiYuan]

@@dole8001 IRL

[@erhhhh27]

Sounds familiar

[@chinareds54]

I think you've forgotten Dark Water, where we find out everyone who died has their consciousness live on and feel everything that happens to their body. "Don't creamate me!"

[@Here_is_Waldo]

I was expecting that one to be on the list. Considering it was every human who died over hundreds of years that was pulled into that Timelord computer and we can only imagine the things done to them, I'm surprised it was forgotten about. Imagine anyone who donated their bodies to science.

[@scpbr25]

@Aria nah,you can hear someone screaming in the background and the a.i tells pink that "another one donated their body to science",so people actually felt stuff in that place,pink even said he was feeling cold

[@EddieM1994]

You know a fate is harsh when it's also an SCP.

[@aurumvale9908]

I'm not sure natural decomposition would be much better and any form of preservation would probably equally suck

[@madestmadhatter]

@@scpbr25 yeah you hear that in the virtual storage unit they were being kept in, like I'm still not sure what the purpose of that was or how much of what they were told was true, but potentially they're told that cremation thing so if they turn out not to be dead they would freak out and tell all of their friends not to be cremated giving Missy more bodies to convert to cybermen, and to help sell it they have a fake dead person scream.

[@MrRjhyt]

The other passengers having to live with themselves after encountering the 'Midnight' entity. Or Pete realising he has to kill himself to close the 'Father's Day' paradox.

[@jackeccles1333]

Nah Pete got to say good bye and is happy and satisfied with the outcome

[@RichyTheGamer1]

@@jackeccles1333 and at least his dead, so no "fate worth than death" thing.

[@willhuey4891]

they have to live with the fact that they nearly killed the doctor.

[@Nyghtking]

Midnight is one of the only 3 episodes I have ever watched of doctor who, the others being silence in the library part one and two.

[@darkwitch777]

Or the air hostess who killed herself saving the doctor and crew.

[@thebartinator8660]

You forgot to mention that happen also literally sneezed his brain out to complete the transformation.

[@MudMarsh52]

What?

[@thebartinator8660]

@@MudMarsh52 the final stage of Halpen's ood transformation is that he sneezes his ood hindbrain into his hands.

[@E.C.L.W]

It was utterly disgusting, but it was genius

[@elzmelz]

But he did deserve it 🤣

[@bioengboi137]

Caitlin Woodhouse human dislikes alien race and enslaved them* Aliens are freed* Alien 1: wouldn't be a hilarious social experiment to see that human become one of us. Alien 2: yeah lol, that'd be the greatest prank in the universe. Human transforms* Alien1: got'em

[@lindaterrell5535]

The chilling narration at the end of giving the family immortality: “not because he was cruel, but because he was being kind.”

[@themayhemofmadness7038]

You say you THINK The Family of Blood were probably not happy with their fate, but the son flat out stated they weren’t. One of his last lines was that they thought the Doctor was running because he was scared of them, but now he knows that the Doctor ran because he was trying to show them mercy. It was, for me, one of the most chilling lines from Doctor Who, both new and old, and definitely not any fate I would ever wish for myself.

[@Meowthix]

Those moments are what made me fall in love with the show. It's easy to forget that some of the most volatile and destructive pre(and post?) cursor civilizations consider The Doctor to be akin to a godlike being or in some cases, the Devil. The moments that remind us The Doctor isn't human are truly just *chef kiss*

[@SerAkimbo]

Harry Lloyd's delivery in that monologue is just perfect

[@ashtonjones6593]

Dude he was being sarcastic lol. Of course they werent happy, it was an obvious sarcasm comment lol

[@theglitchedangel6838]

I feel like almost every doctor who companion needs therapy

[@turtlegamer237]

A lot of them die so

[@kieranfo3739]

Also worth mentioning: The people who were being farmed for their time/energy by the Weeping Angels in New York spending their entire lives in a hotel room The humans who were killed and reanimated by the Daleks, remembering their past lives but not caring about it. The old Doctor who lived in an abandoned school with The Silence, whose memory was so damaged he was acting out the same day over and over well years passed. The humans who had their consciousness restored after being converted into Cybermen in The Age Of Steel, their suffering was brief but truly horrific The John Smith identity of the Doctor who was given the choice of living a life that wasn't real or sacrificing his life of to save others.

[@thestonedraider8684]

All good except, its not really a bad fate as such if you "dont care" lol

[@Jedi_Spartan]

In relation to your 3rd point, there's also the fact that when the ear pods got deactivated, there were likely people in at least some of those massive conversion machines. Also there's the fact that the Cybermen used cruder methods of conversion on Torchwood members in Doomsday.

[@kieranfo3739]

@@Jedi_Spartan Good point, the Torchwood episode Cyberwoman touched on it and there may be other people who were left half converted or at the very least regained consciousness well they were being hacked to bits in conversation chambers.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

@@kieranfo3739 also who decided to make the Cyberwoman look the way she did... especially given what happens to the guy she tried to convert.

[@kieranfo3739]

@@Jedi_Spartan My understanding is during the Canary Wharf battle Cybermen began to rush conversions by putting implants on to humans, these weren't true Cybermen although they were shown to be stronger and more durable than ordinary people, they were intended purely as soldiers or may even have been cannon fodder, something to draw Dalek fire well the real Cybermen attacked, the Cyberwoman attempted a full conversion on the scientist but as the machine may have been damaged or the Cyberwoman not being a full Cyberman couldn't successfully operate it and killed him.

[@MrRjhyt]

I'd have Clara being trapped inside a Dalek case as one of mine. Even given it's early position in the season, I thought they were completing her arc. Circling back to her reveal in the Asylum. The added dalek censor circuit made it more nightmarish...

[@lwaves]

That's the one I was going to mention. Finding out you are the very thing that you've been holding off and fighting for all that time.

[@ethanmcdowell1164]

Lwaves ironic that later on when Clara came back as a "companion",in one episode she was hiding in a Dalek shell casing and the Doctor thought she actually was a Dalek!

[@lwaves]

@@ethanmcdowell1164 Yeah, that was a really nice touch. I do like callbacks like that.

[@Here_is_Waldo]

Meh. I've always wished that had been the version of Clara that had joined the Doctor as a companion. Having a dalek companion could have been interesting, even if she started as a human.

[@TheGoodReverendSatan]

When soufflé girl well.. soufflé'd 😂

[@katinka01114]

I don't remember the exact episode, but it was with Clara and Twelve, when the aliens turned people 2D. And there was that one scene where the policewoman was slowly sucked into the ground, and just how terrified she was made me shiver in horror. Plus, when after they realise what happened, that different parts of the house are parts of people...Gives me the chills to this day.

[@Korbsio]

i believe that is flatline.

[@katinka01114]

@@Korbsio Yes, that's the one! Thank you!

[@dracon2002]

The funny part is that nothing physical can be 2D because it's simply impossible by the physic itself.

[@thelordduck2485]

Try walking on a world you think is a desert but is dead people

[@turbogoblin8232]

Flatline

[@The_Platinum_Realist]

I always thought it was kind of stupid that he could only save her face on a slab of concrete. Why bother? That’s a horrible fate.

[@TheHufflepuffSaint]

"You should've seen it, Doctor. Furnaces burning, the last of humanity screaming at the dark. All that human invention that had sustained them across the eons. It all turned inward. They cannibalized themselves. Regressing into children. But it didn’t work. The universe was collapsing around them." - The Master's description of Utopia always brings chills for me. Also you kinda missed an important character as The Master's speech goes on to say; "My masterpiece, Doctor. A living TARDIS strong enough to hold the paradox in place. Allowing the past and the future to collide in infinite majesty." Sure, The TARDIS hadn't really met her fate yet but the amount times she's been trashed, ripped apart, cannibalised, punched, shot and even came to the brink of death when she fell into that Parallel Universe. And yet, The TARDIS has been through all that and still limps along to take The Doctor where they need to go and protects them as best she can.

[@thewhovianhippo7103]

when did the tardis get cannibalised ?

[@TheHufflepuffSaint]

@@thewhovianhippo7103 in that episode, The Sound Of Drums/Last Of The Time Lords... The Doctor says to Martha and Jack that the Master cannibalised The Tardis to create the Paradox Machine.

[@thewhovianhippo7103]

@@TheHufflepuffSaint oh lol not what I would call caniblized

[@TheHufflepuffSaint]

@@thewhovianhippo7103 Well, it's what the Doctor says. And plus while she is encased of metal, The Tardis is a being capable of feeling, same as a human, same as any being. So being pulled apart, having pylons welded to an inch of her heart within the console, having a blowtorch seared into her metal skin while her heart burns in agony and then encaged and forced to hold a scar open carrying the full effects of a paradox for 30 months, I'd call that cannibalised... Because if you did that to a feeling human, it would be seen as such.

[@thewhovianhippo7103]

@@TheHufflepuffSaint well in that episode there is only one TARDIS that means it is impossible to be caniblized .

[@rakka2533]

The fate of The Flesh gangers stand out to me in memory. When they were discarded they'd still be conscious, and it was implied they were in pain, but now were helpless blobs that could do nothing about it. I haven't watched the episode since it aired, but from what I remember the pain only ceased once they'd gradually rotted away. Yikes.

[@ZlothZloth]

... or if the Doctor melted them with the sonic.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

Those two episodes really disturbed and saddened me. It should have been on this list.

[@winterstar5750]

Even the term "The Almost People" unsettles me to this day

[@skyeg5892]

I always found it sad when river died to save the doctor and he didn’t even know who she was at that point

[@JLToddTheDictionPuppeteer]

I think one of the most horrific fates was Donna's. Catherine Tate's acting in that scene is so heartbreaking.

[@themoose4216]

Sad but not so much horrific, she didnt feel any pain and in the end she was happy which you definitely cannot say for anybody else on this list

[@Widdekuu91]

@@themoose4216 But her panic before she got mind-erased was sad though. Imagine knowing that someone will remove the best memories from your mind, you've only got a few seconds left with them.

[@themoose4216]

@@Widdekuu91 true

[@patrickmccurry1563]

@@themoose4216 Considering that more than a few of us would fight to die rather than suffer such a horrible fate....

[@Herobrine100x]

Well at least she got her happy ending.

[@baitedlol6972]

7:20 It's okay she becomes a ghost and resides in a Hogwarts bathroom

[@veryswagnemo1984]

Adele Dazeem just got that lol

[@Jack-yo7uz]

Adele Dazeem moaning Myrtle 😂

[@RoseKindred]

Until I saw that episode of Dr. Who I always thought that Moaning Myrtle was played by the same person who played Harry Potter in a wig. Like they were trying to save money and the cast had to do multiple roles.

[@dogwalker666]

@@RoseKindred good grief penfold.

[@dogwalker666]

Indeed

[@davidmitchell005]

There was Captain Jack. Unintentionally cursed with immortality, he has to live through the 20th century to try to find the Doctor again, only to be left behind and we discover he is TheFace Of Beau(Bo?) existing as just a face and little else. And if you include Torchwood, there’s a whole story about the human race becoming immortal and struggling to deal with eternal life without external youth and even surviving fatal accidents and murder.

[@RokuHanmar]

Boe. I think

[@Guardian582]

@@RokuHanmar the face of Bo, as he stated he was the Bo Pennisula in one episode which means its a place as well

[@tpd1234]

It's Boe.

[@Thirdbase9]

We need to get him together with Ursala.

[@Ginkgo_leaf_3000]

I had nightmares after Miracle Day! I was about that part where the lady's limo is crushed into a cube with her inside it and you see her eye just moving.

[@petertoth6632]

Every people who turn into Cyberman.. the whole process plus when the blockers off and they realize what have done to them...

[@GrandmasterDevo]

I know it will never happen, but I'd still like to see the full cyber-conversion process. Probably a bit too gruesome for a family show, though.

[@Soundwave45681]

GrandmasterDevo maybe make an R-rated documentary type video for the Cybermen to show it?

[@Nyerguds]

Yea, I believe all of those who got unblocked and lived eventually end up committing suicide...

[@ianmiller6040]

@@Nyerguds They *did* die. You see them commit suicide *in* the episode itself, their heads explode and kill them.

[@Nyerguds]

@@ianmiller6040 when did I ever claim they didn't? :-\

[@nigelhickman2274]

FFS the girl who waited? She waited what, 40 years - Rory waited thousands. "OMG you killed Rory - you bastards...."

[@spatifilla]

A couple of details: 1. Rory knew the date he waited 2. He had a hope, he never thought he is left 3. He didn't grow old 4. He didn't die (this time 😏)

[@papabumba478]

randomly, I always thought that Rory waiting story was non sense

[@ryzacraft]

The difference between the two, is that Rory knew what he was doing, had a choice, knew he wouldn’t grow old and wasn’t abandoned. Amy was abandoned on a planet to grow old alone, she didn’t get a choice and had no company. She was then lied to and abandoned again and left to die alone.

[@danthemeegs8751]

Rory waited voluntarily, and he didn’t age

[@tatertatertatertatertater]

@@spatifilla He also chose to wait, it wasn't a fate.

[@AlzhaKya]

The worst part is that Ursula Still had an "intimate" relationship while still being a slab

[@Enzo012]

You mean the best part?

[@AlzhaKya]

@@Enzo012 The first living fleshlight...

[@ZXL000]

I never thought of that. Yikes.

[@kripht]

But hold on, is she immortal now? Does she need to eat?

[@TimothyPossible]

She get's plenty to eat

[@joshua211111]

You are forgetting all the horrific ones from the ORIGINAL Dr Who Run. e.g being kept alive forever in rassellon's tomb as a head bust.

[@shounenbat510]

That was a very nasty fate! And, while I know she didn't suffer long, Sarah Kingdom should have had a more dignified death.

[@turbogoblin8232]

The 5 doctors if I remember correctly

[@xanderharris1104]

Right. They totally ignored the original series

[@polbecca]

Or having your brain spilling out in globs of green as you're gradually transformed into a Dalek.

[@xanderharris1104]

@@polbecca nice 1 becky!

[@egyptian316]

Sarah Jane was left in Aberdeen. I mean, that's pretty rough too.

[@Dylski.]

She had a babysham in peep peeps

[@brianartillery]

I always, always get something in my eye when I think of Bill being converted. She was such a brilliant companion for The Doctor. I really wish that she had been in more than just a single series. Pearl Mackie was so good in the role.

[@lu.ciel8770]

Same here! Broke my heart

[@Rubybutterfly666-k6g]

Me to loved her wished she had been there longer

[@nelsonhuang393]

I still get nightmares about turning into one of the Empty Child's minions. It is just straight-up scary for me.

[@generalbacon6955]

Are you my mummy?

[@Wizard0fDogs]

Lol I used to feel that way about the flood

[@Skucket]

I think Heaven sent should have been on here The Doctor literally spent billions of years in his own torture chamber

[@cjclow052]

However he only experiences one run in it so the final doctor is in the end dosent remember

[@mattnar3865]

@@cjclow052 Didn't he remember it all once he realised what was going on? I might be remembering it wrong.

[@samwitherington8202]

I agree.

[@emeleel]

@@mattnar3865 I just recently watched this one.... he figures out how long it's been and what must have happened in all that time, but he doesn't literally remember every single re-play.

[@mattnar3865]

@@emeleel See I hope you're wrong because that kind of negates the entire experience, like sure it's a hellish day (or however long each cycle is) but it's still just that. IIRC he has a few mental breaks once he realises what's going on, which would only really happen if he remembered every other time he'd been through it.

[@breebree8200]

I have three more scenes to add to this. The first can be described with the words "Are you my mummy?" and the second one is being turned into a meat suit for the Gelth. What was worse about the Gelth was that they tried to use the Time War to _guilt_ the Doctor into helping them and for a while it works until they reveal that " We don't want your pity. We want this world and all it's flesh." (ew. just ew.) The last one is the one that the Doctor himself casually dismisses, saying that the Weeping Angels are "the only psychopaths in the universe to kill you nicely". Well, there's nothing "nice" about being dragged out of your own time, away from your family, forced to live out the rest of your life away from everyone you love while some statue feeds on the time that you _could have had_ had you not looked away from it.

[@krussell1608]

Well everybody lived in the end of the gas mask one, so it doesn't count as a death. I do agree that it was horrible though, especially for me as a young child.

[@fooltheroyal8691]

The thing about the weeping angels is you still get to live, and ironically, almost everyone afflicted by the nano machines are cured when the machine is fixed.

[@seekingthelight2029]

For me Donna losing her memory of the Doctor is the most sad ending, she was such an amazing companion and her and the doctor were best friends and they just loved each other and you can see how much it kills him to do it, she would have made a fantastic doctor and I think it's so sad to think that she would have then found herself often sad and not knowing why, like when Amy forgets Rory and starts crying for unknown reasons. Such a sad way for her to go

[@Meowthix]

Reading through this i'm genuinely suprised how much this is mentioned. She was my least favorite companion personally.

[@marianwelty5552]

I think it bothered other people too. Cause both Clara and Bill just chewed his ass up one side and down the other for intending to violate their minds and taking their memories. I mean, Clara REALLY laid into him and reprogrammed the mind divice to zap his memory instead of hers. But Bill got him too. Because there was A huge hole in his memory without Clara that he was aware of but didn't know EXSACTLY what was in that blind spot and it really really unnerved him. Sooooo yeah. I'm thinking alot of people were bothered by what he did to Donna.

[@inkheart151]

That and Donna missing her virtual husband because he stutters and couldn’t call out to her

[@anthonyscarfe4853]

I’ve had total memory loss, so I know what it’s like to have your memory erased. The same fates as Donna and the first one in this video combined. Finding out that you’ve forgotten everything, having to relearn everything and knowing that you’ll never get those moments back is a massively upsetting thing.

[@YosenBMamma]

The older *Amy* didn't die, she ceased to exist as soon as the young *Amy* flew away in the Tardis.

[@HomeGunMaker]

Yeah people tend to forget that. She never existed in the first place when they rescued young Amy.

[@explodeygames7585]

Didn't she die first because of the killer robots and then cease to exist?

[@HomeGunMaker]

@@explodeygames7585 yes but even so, rescuing young Amy retroactively rewrote time and those 3 decades never happened anymore

[@joshuagodfrey5686]

I think being exterminated trying to fight a Dalek is an honourable way to die .

[@GoldLight73]

Getting controlled by the thing on Midnight. We still don’t even know WHAT that was or even fully what it does to its victims.

[@Arsenaldude21]

The family of blood always creeped me out especially Bains (the son, I think that was his name)

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

That actor was truely brilliant, gave me chills

[@Gainn]

He played Viserys Targaryen perfectly too. Very versatile actor.

[@williamhiers1280]

The son's name was Son of Mine (or Brother of Mine, depending on who is addressing him). Baines was a separate character taken over by him. Son of Mine just used his body to walk around. I can't remember if the episode clarified whether the people the Family possessed died upon being taken over or not.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

@@williamhiers1280 Yes, they died. Mother of Mine taunts Martha about the fearful maid crying and pleading for her life.

[@AdderTude]

@@Gainn His name is Harry Lloyd, the great-great-great-grandson of Charles Dickens.

[@eduardomantilla2143]

People talk about Amy but they forget that Rory had been basically erased from existence, rebuilt as a robot clone, and then stood guard over Amy for thousands of years as the Last Centurion, something that even the Doctor said would have driven him mad.

[@gilgameshofuruk4060]

It wasn't Rory standing guard, though. It was an Auton. At no point did they indicate that in some way it was Rory.

[@eduardomantilla2143]

@@gilgameshofuruk4060 It was pretty much Rory since he was created using all of Rory's memories from Amy. It was pretty much a perfect duplicate of Rory.

[@-haclong2366]

To be fair, the idea of the toclafane is one of the scariest ones in Doctor Who entirely. Just imagine being a mouthless head stuck in a cold sphere.

[@Kooma4Yew1600]

They're human Daleks. Only more evil. They actually have a concept of fun and ENJOY what they do

[@mgthestrange9098]

I have no mouth yet I must scream.

[@suzannemenuet947]

@@mgthestrange9098 *shudders*

[@tatertatertatertatertater]

Well, at least they have some fun in the process!

[@Matheus21video]

@@mgthestrange9098 Silent Hill?

[@ChristopherFerrier]

The one that always gets me is Cassandra, in The End of the World, she is just held in place to be ripped apart, seemingly to perish, but as we find out in New Earth, she was still alive, so her skin/body with eyes and mouth were ripped apart, but her brain is still there, alive and conscious until a new piece of skin is created for her. She was conscious and yet utterly unable to let anybody know that she was still alive. Also, the way that Dr. Constantine changes into one of the gas mask zombies always freaks me out!

[@haydenhoodless2055]

The girl who waited still disturbs me. The doctor just grabbed a different pond from a different timeline and next episode it was like "Everything is okay now, let's forget about that", but that Amy Pond lost her mind, trapped alone for 30 years, and then died.

[@ellenmurphy2150]

Though not a physically painful or gross end to a companion, Donna Noble getting her entire memories of her time with The Doctor erased by The Doctor was a sad ending to a great character. And Rose Tyler getting trapped on alternate Earth. Remembering The Doctor every day and probably wishing she didn't.

[@KissMyFatAxe]

Let's not forget though that in the season 4 finale, Rose gets her own half human version of the doctor to live out the rest of her life with. So it wasn't all that bad in the end for Rose.

[@deborahlepage1789]

I had the impression that Diagaris and Dalek Sec became a symbiatic consciousness because Dalek Sec was combining their forms and NOT eating him. The two had seemed to have a strange friendship. Having a biped form, Sec might have needed an internal guide/cheerleader to stand and actually take a step that would have saved the Dalek race if the Cult of Skaro hadn't chickened out to the tune of "Exterminate.• Dalec Sec saved the Dalek race, the Cult of Skaro promptly murdered it. In my opinion.

[@blueseqperl]

Donna's fate was soul crushing

[@JasonTodd971]

The Doctor didn’t abandon Amy. Their/our timeline Amy was also the TARDIS and they couldn’t exist together So he picked his Amy

[@danthemeegs8751]

yeah, but he still left her there for 36 years by herself. And at one point in time, Old Amy was actually HIS Amy too

[@lwaves]

Yes, he picked an Amy (not his Amy as they were both his) but that meant abandoning the other Amy.

[@jadahoizer9668]

He took the old Amy so it turned out she wouldn’t exist either

[@joestevenson5568]

@@lwaves No, it undid the existence of old amy, so none of the things that happened to her ever occurred

[@jduk1818]

@@joestevenson5568 Yes, it undid the existence of old Amy (and all that happened to her) but she was still abandoned to that fate of being undone. The act of abandonment is still there, irrespective of her fate after that. :-)

[@mothgomerymanagement3903]

i get that bills reveal as a cybermen was a shock but i gotta say yvonne hartman and her i did my duty for queen and country is absolutely devastating to watch

[@rolandbaldwin]

That gets me every time.

[@adamfreddo5703]

Wouldn't have made more sense if the Praxeus victims just shelled up, didn't explode and in an ironical sense, becoming like the litter and plastic itself, being an eyesore which cannot be cremated, destroyed or decompose.

[@MiniNymph]

I think they do the dust explosions to make it clear the person is dead and not able to be freed from the shell or brought back. In a series with near deaths and parallel deaths and other timey-wimey stuff, it's hard to think of a death as permanent if there is a body left behind

[@themostbritishpersonalive868]

@@MiniNymph someone aight dead til you got a body -and then it explodes-

[@thealien2437]

Honestly, the episodes where the Doctor isn't the main character are some of the scariest in the series.

[@ReptillianStrike]

like Class. The episodes get more nightmarish the further in you get.

[@patrickmccurry1563]

Possibly because we don't have series tropes to know in general how the story will progress. Without the demi-god Dr. we don't know who if anyone will survive or how.

[@aahaanchawla5393]

You forgot that Amy had to wait for 2000 years while being fully conscience through the time, trapped in a box during the season finale of season5

[@liamheneghan4977]

I'd also put the characters infected by the Flood as an honourable mention. Felt bad for their families who would never know what happened to them.

[@AndiGravity]

1) The Doctor: Having to live with being the Doctor. For all the humor and quirkiness of the Doctor's personality, what's lurking underneath occasionally breaks through the surface, and it is almost invariably this endless well of pain and suffering, loss and loneliness that he's been witness to or had to bear over the course of his lives. That's sort of his character underneath, the tragedy of who he is. The Doctor can seem callous to all the things that go on around him-- all the death and suffering other people experience-- but the reason he keeps driving himself forward, on the edge of madness, is because he experiences everyone else's suffering along with them, as keenly as they do, and has to carry it forever because he's consigned himself to the role of having to be the one who bears it. And he bears it because deep down he thinks in the end, if he can't bear up underneath it-- if he can't carry the weight of the entire Universe when it can't carry itself and do what needs to be done no matter the cost-- then what was it all worth? No matter how much he runs, how silly he acts, or how much he tries to distract himself by trying to experience the wonders of the Universe through the adventures he takes his companions on, the pain of it all never really goes away. The wounds never really heal. They just get hidden under the veneer of him being a madman with a box.

[@scantopup2226]

behind all the sci-fi tropes, pre-day of the doctor, it is about a solider trying to serve a pnance for hte lives he took in the time war. the tardis is his prison and his madness is cntagous, remember what the melton said at the end of love and monsters "I guess that's waht happens if you touch the doctor even for a second" so many people have changed martha would've become a doctor instead of a freelance alien hunter with mickey, rory would've become stayed a nurse and had a family. so many people have changed or died becuase of the doctor

[@AndiGravity]

@@scantopup2226 -- Except the TARDIS isn't really the Doctor's prison. Remember _The Doctor's Wife._ "I said you were the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen." "Then you stole me... and I stole you." "I borrowed you." "Borrowing implies you intend to return something. What makes you think I would ever give you back?" ... "Sorry, do you have a name?" "Seven hundred years, finally he asks." "What do I call you?" "You call me... Sexy." "Only when we're alone!" "We are alone." "Oh... come on, then, Sexy." With each other is the one place both the Doctor and the TARDIS want to be. It wrecks the Doctor to have to see the TARDIS's life as a mortal being end, with the last thing he says to her being "please, I don't want you to," as she starts to fade away, and her saying "I love you" in return as she does. The TARDIS being the Doctor's prison would be about like me having to spend the rest of my life imprisoned in my dream house, except for absolutely any time I want to go anywhere or do anything, including hook up with a really cute guy and go on amazing globe-hopping adventures with him. I mean, sure, you could technically sentence me to that and tell me it was my prison, but... would it be, though?

[@scantopup2226]

@@AndiGravity it's the perfect prison, if the devil wanted to torture us he would give us everything we wanted. it's a co-dependent relationship the doctor can't survive without the tardis and vice versa. time travel is like a drug addiction for him, he can never leave the tardis and the tardis will always come back to him. also remember that the doctor is basically immortal and immortality isn't living forever it's watching everyone you love die, he always returns to the tardis his prison and his best friend and his home all wrapped into one.

[@AndiGravity]

@@scantopup2226 -- The Devil didn't consign the Doctor to the TARDIS. He chose it, and it chose him. You can call it a drug all you want, say it's as codependent as you want, explain how the two of them will always come back to each other. My simple response is that I chose the person I've spent the last twenty years of my life with, and he chose me. Is it a relationship other people would define as healthy? Dunno. Don't much care. It's the relationship we're happy with. There are things we love about each other, things we tolerate about each other, ways we encourage each other to be better, bad habits we encourage in each other, and things we're addicted to about one another. I'm a home-body, and he has a job that constantly takes him away and puts him in danger. It's not the life a lot of other people might choose, but I don't need a time machine to tell you that as long as we're alive, I will never leave him, and he will always come back to me. He's my best friend, and he's my home, but he will never be my prison.

[@stevekillgore9272]

But, The Doctor isn't what we all thought "he" was, demands the BBC and Chinballs and the Alphabet Children - he isn't the last Timelord, he isn't the Timelord Victorious, "SHE" isn't even a Timelord screams the never-satisfied and perpetually-outraged Leftists raping our Doctor.

[@FenrisTheMannis]

Not fate suffering but, to me, the most shocking death was Captain Adelaide Brooke from The Waters Of Mars.

[@julieeverett7442]

no that was just balance, she CHOSE it to keep the time lines straight

[@gilgameshofuruk4060]

Adelaide killing herself wouldn't keep the timeline straight, though. She was back on Earth with no explanation. Imagine how that would affect her daughter. It's more than likely she would have her life effectively derailed. Rather than achieving great things, she could have spent the rest of her life trying to fund out what happened and running a conspiracy theory website.​@julieeverett7442

[@ishaandw]

If anyone found 10's punishment in Family of Blood odd, just note that it's from a 7th doctor novel.

[@shounenbat510]

That makes a lot more sense.

[@julieeverett7442]

and we all know 7th is the darkest of ALL the doctors

[@ivylaw5713]

The hostess from midnight. Knowing that the only way she could save a group of random strangers was by killing herself in an excruciating way while killing one of the passengers that she was meant to protect. What makes it worse is that nobody even remembered her name

[@Roadent1241]

I've seen that episode multiple times, did she even say her name?

[@jeaddhist]

@@Roadent1241 No. That's the point. The one who saved the day is the one none of the others cared about.

[@Roadent1241]

@@jeaddhist Fair enough. I just thought I had a crap memory but hell that is a powerful point.

[@theevildalek5425]

TOP 10 MISSING DOCTOR WHO STORIES PLEASE The 97 Missing Episodes need more attention and I won’t stop commenting until it happens

[@danthemeegs8751]

just out of curiosity, which stories would make your own personal top ten?

[@Popcultureguy3000]

The Dalek Masterplan is going to have to be in my top 3, alongside The Highlanders (Jamie McCrimmon’s debut serial), and the Fury From The Deep, the scariest classic Who episode.

[@Timmzy27]

The poor bloke with the stutter who dated Donna in the Library simulation computer, she thought he wasn’t real and when he saw her while on the teleportation pod and tried to call out to her... got teleported out of her life for good.

[@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123]

Okay, so i went from thinking that the girlfriend slab was from a doctor who episode at age 8, to thinking my friend tricked me and the girlfriend slab was a cathartic end to a horror film at age 16, to finding out for sure that the girlfriend slab was actually a doctor who episode at age 17.

[@KissMyFatAxe]

That's one hell of an emotional rollercoaster

[@CineScarborough]

It's surprising how much they get away with. And yet they're not allowed to show blood!

[@lwaves]

I sometimes like to consider how far they could take the dark side of things, if they weren't restricted by the younger audience. There are a lot of instances where they could really do a deep dive into the darker aspects that the show touches on.

[@ZlothZloth]

@@lwaves That's what Torchwood was for, wasn't it?

[@CineScarborough]

@@lwaves That's where Torchwood used to come in.

[@lwaves]

@@ZlothZloth @The Yorkshire Time Lord It was supposed to be and as much as I liked Torchwood, it didn't go deep in the way I'm talking about. I'm thinking about a look into what it was like for Oswin in the Dalek, especially after she discovered the truth. Or for Amy dealing with the trauma of her baby being taken, only to find out she'd never get her baby back. Or Amy again, dealing with her imaginary friend and all the psychiatrists she visited. Or what a human goes through when they're converted to a Cyberman. Even dealing with a new time after being touched by a Weeping Angel. Specific moments or times that don't get explored in the show, for obvious reasons.

[@CMDR_Verm]

That Ood transformation at the end was enough for me. Peeling skulls etc. And the Ood have put me off Pot Noodle forever (is that where their name comes from?)

[@EndoClaw]

The thing about both Amy’s in a Tardis is it would have destroyed it so the doctor had to make a choice both Amy’s but everyone dies or one Amy but the other dies

[@danthemeegs8751]

yes, true. but it’s still horrible what happened to older Amy

[@EndoClaw]

DanTheMeegs agreed

[@adrianrocha49]

Not only that, didn't she ask the Dr. and Amy to leave her behind?

[@DanielRobertspiano]

You missed Donna, having to live with her mum again after series 4. What fate is worse than that?!

[@Grayson.P]

The real tragety there is if she ever remembered The Doctor her mind would burn due to overworking. And just think of how many more times the doctor saved earth after that.

[@dm613]

Speaking of people choosing death if they knew what their fate would be, Donna did actually choose death over having her memories wiped (or blocked, actually)... the Doctor just wouldn't accept her choice. Everyone around her had to be extremely careful around her, or she'd die anyway. Or so he said.

[@thelastofthetimelords9043]

Sylvia did eventually warm to the Doctor though. I imagine after the end of time Sylvia treated Donna better after realizing how heartbroken the doctor is having lost Donna as a friend.

[@mgthestrange9098]

I know, she was awful! Such a nasty, criticising bitch. 😬

[@wackywaa1458]

I mean there are other companions...who lost their memory of the doctor as well

[@kjamison5951]

I don’t know what is more cruel regarding Ursula, that the writer considered it acceptable for her to remain a face in a paving slab for however long she lived or that the writer had Elton believe it was acceptable to let her live that way and take advantage of her physical condition.

[@Kooma4Yew1600]

The horror of Halpin's transformation starts at 9:50-10:00 but really ends at 9:43 when his brain shrinks and migrates down his spine, into an embryonic casing and gets vomited from his mouth

[@protorhinocerator142]

That bulb they hold is only part of their brains. They can live if you cut the cord, but they will be all gorked up.

[@Redshaw-w3o]

I’d say the three most horrific fates are becoming a cyberman, being sent back in time by the angles and being turned into a ood

[@--Pirate--]

I think the angle fate isn't that bad depending how far your sent back

[@Redshaw-w3o]

@@--Pirate-- also if you’re sent back to time where you don’t have rights or you’re a slave

[@SidTheActualSloth]

That doctor must have been in a ton of pain when he got his brains sucked out, though.

[@johannkuhne1501]

River and the Doctor's relationship... The older she gets, the less he knows about her and the day she died he didn't know her at all.

[@ernestcunningham3580]

“It’s not safe out here. It’s wondrous with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it’s not for the timid!” Q

[@robertespley248]

I think the most horrific fate suffered by any Doctor Who character has to be that of the Doctor himself/herself.

[@MrRonald327]

Sci-fi isn't always pretty.

[@zombiepirate8999]

That's true, I mean if you look at how science evolved it's crazy

[@canttalk-busypurging]

Heh. Yeah.

[@timemechanic5055]

The worst fate by a wide margin is the one that has befallen the Doctor under Chibnall's abysmal writing!

[@sonnykingcomposer]

Nah chibnall and timeless child is great imo

[@timemechanic5055]

@@sonnykingcomposer you mean "are great" - verb-subject agreement.

[@sonnykingcomposer]

@@timemechanic5055 yeah true lol, I allways say is for some reason. Put it up there with Mr conditional Clause xD

[@timemechanic5055]

@@sonnykingcomposer Good to see you got the reference - all the best :)

[@timemechanic5055]

@I Live In A Van Down By The River Don't worry - he won't care. Spelling is the least of the problems with his writing.

[@asphodelale]

I'm surprised they didn't add Chancellor Barusa's fate in The Five Doctors. Especially as it was so similar to Ursula's in effect.

[@Cephalopoda]

Noobs, innit.

[@QuarrellaDeVil]

Ah, these kids...there was plenty of Doctor Who before David Tennant.

[@julieeverett7442]

@@QuarrellaDeVil 26 years and 7 doctors, including the greatest of them all (4th)

[@jeffwalker7185]

I found Amy and Rory's fate in The Angels take Manhattan a bit lame. Apparently, the Doctor would not be able to rescue Rory and Amy from the past they were sent to because the locality is time locked. There was nothing to stop the Doctor telling them to hop on a train and go to a different city and he will pick them up. Amy even left a message in the book they were reading at the start of the story. She could have left coordinates to be picked up. Also, in Blink the 10th Doctor and Martha were sent back to the 1960’s and that story ended with the Doctor remote controlling the Tardis to rescue them.

[@Renegade2786]

If you move the D one place forward from the word Ood, you have a shape shifter working on a space station.

[@schizoidboy]

I can think of at least two from the earlier series. One character stepped on a type of mine that turned him into a tree - there were two others as well. There was also the end of the episode of the Five Doctors where the villain is offered immortality and he ends up one of the faces on the tomb or Rasolone.

[@Kittybird]

Donna Noble. She finally realized how brilliant she was, then had to go back to a life of abuse from her mother and "Screaming at the world, because no one listens"

[@gizmodaemocorn6776]

I think from the Torchwood series, Owen Harper had it bad. Imagine being dead but still living.

[@Scorprock102]

Along with his final death being from severe radiation, which would've melted him, with him being conscious the whole time

[@matthewkalasky2891]

The whole entire planet in Miracle Day. You can't die, but can still feel pain, so, you survive things that WOULD have killed you and suffer through the aftermath of it.

[@ianmiller6040]

@@matthewkalasky2891 Yeah, that suicide bomber...blown to literal bits, but still barely alive and conscious. Horrific.

[@alecsandyr]

Desiccating daleks in the sewers of Skaro, anyone? Everyone loves to hate the daleks, but to be one in that circumstance? Eesh.

[@madestmadhatter]

Man, it's easy to forget what monsters David's and Matt's Doctors were becoming, like Matt straight up says it at one point "a good man doesn't need rules" and then you have to imagine he made those rules while David was on his "time lord victorious" binge.

[@julieeverett7442]

he also said this is not a good time to find out why I need so many, hes NOT human, and you have to remember the modern version of the doctor has attempted genocide THREE times already

[@masonhoffman5653]

on the family of blood’s fate, i believe the last thing Son of Mine said was “Know we knew why the doctor had ran and hid: he was being kind.”

[@grahamcann1761]

Why do I love Doctor Who again? Time travel that makes no sense. Episodes I only saw once, and can never see again? (I was a young Californian pre-teen living in England in the 60's.) An often cruel Doctor. Horrible fates. High death counts. And yet I do love it so. As always thank you so very much for your efforts, observations, delivery, and video.

[@royfugate]

my vote would have to be adric whose travels come to an end in Earthshock when he tries to stop a Cyberman-controlled freighter from crashing into Earth. The navigational controls are locked by logic codes, and Adric is entering the solution to the last code when the computer is destroyed by a dying Cyberman. He dies in the crash, while his crewmates watch in horror on the TARDIS viewscreen. His last words before the explosion kills him are "Now I'll never know if I was right." Adric dies not knowing that the freighter he was trying to stop would become the "meteor" that would wipe out the dinosaurs and lead to the rise of mammals and eventually humans

[@GregInHouston2]

When I first saw this list, I thought of Adric. But I'm not sure this is a "horrific" fate. I'm not saying it isn't a sad fate. But "horrific"? The thing that really stands out about Adric is that he was an actual companion like Bill.

[@bigmad6454]

How bout the end of The Pandorica Opens? The Doctor gets incarcerated, Rory kills his own girlfriend, River Song dies inside the exploding TARDIS, and the stars in the sky go extinct. It is one tearjerking moment.

[@MrRjhyt]

Missy's humiliation, having to be saved from execution by her worst enemy/friend, and then kept as a prisoner for the next thousand years...

[@spatifilla]

Really she spent as a prisoner not more than a couple of years, I think. And then started a story with cybermen.

[@kambesyes]

The intro led me to believe it was going be about people who went with the Doctor not just existed in that universe. No spoilers on Who actually made the list.

[@seankirkham3488]

Ik in a recent video they released showed that the SS Madame De Pompadour started to think it was her and was longing to meet the doctor again, I think thats a pretty awful fate even if the ship isnt really her it still thinks it is.

[@astrosleep9625]

How about being turned into a peg doll. I know they got overturned but he'll that was horrid

[@danthemeegs8751]

that episode is quite underrated in terms of being scary/unsettling

[@AT-il4xl]

Probably because everyone went back to normal in the end.

[@Sonicwaffleproductions]

That was the one episode that i still refuse to watch to this day

[@ianmiller6040]

@@Sonicwaffleproductions Yeah, once was enough.

[@discreteloner9573]

Which ep?

[@Dragonchu98]

Honorable mention for the people eaten by the Vashta Narada. Although thinking about it that would have been a very quick death.

[@kemmdog4444]

The should be a Doctor Who Lockdown story for Ursula’s final fate.

[@kellifaust5522]

Some of the fates in original Doctor Who were pretty horrific: Seeds of Doom-slowly turning into a giant writhing mass of green tentacle vines after being touched by the inside of the seed. Sara Kingdom's fate in The Dalaks Master Plan-being aged to death in the matter of a few seconds. Katarina's fate in The Dalaks Master Plan-purposely blowing herself out of an airlock to save the Doctor. The Five Doctors-President Borusa being permanently turned to stone in his mad quest for immortality. Tremas's fate in The Keeper of Traken-after touching the face of the clock (which turns out to the the Master's TARDIS), he becomes paralyzed and cannot stop the Master from permanently merging his decaying body with his own.

[@danielbigham6290]

Being left completely alone like Amy Pond is something that happened to me recently. It's not pleasant feeling like you meant nothing to anyone in spite of your best efforts.

[@boredguy5271]

"I did my duty for queen and country."

[@JohnDoe-df2nh]

And was it worth it in the end

[@tjhaywood100]

Becoming a slab of concrete really sucks for Moaning Myrtle :(

[@jmjones683]

I was so sad to see Bill go out like that. She wasn't given enough time to really shine.

[@0megacron]

I was glad to see her go, even with such a horrible fate. For me, she was easily the worst of the NuWho companions... although admittedly, I haven't seen much of the Whittaker episodes yet, so that may change.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

I never really took a liking to Bill, but quite a bad way to end up.

[@plucas1]

@@0megacron Are you kidding? Bill (and Nardole too) was one of the very best companions in the whole series. And she ultimately didn't end up staying a cyberman, either.

[@christiannaegele562]

@@0megacron I agrees. Not a fan of her at all. Couldn't get into her as companion either.

[@bob494949]

@@0megacron Bill was a superstar compared to the current lot.

[@joshuacurphey3242]

I would have also added Donna and every companion who died when they were with the Doctor, as well as Tosh, Owen, Ianto and Jack's grandson Steven (though they were in Torchwood and not Doctor Who). I also think what's worse than what happened to Singh and Diagoras is what led to what happened to them; after the Cult of Skaro exited the Void Ship, Dalek Sec asked Rose, Mickey and Singh who was the least important of the three and Singh nominated himself (effectively sacrificing his life for Rose and Mickey). Mr Diagoras meanwhile allied himself with the Daleks and he was told that his loyalty to them would be rewarded, only for them to kill him. And although I might not make this any better, but you do know that the Amy the Handbots killed was an alternate version while Amy from the real world was saved from them. It's also good to see that Bill was somewhat resurrected into the sentient oil (and not really turned into an emotionless being forever).

[@luketube7207]

imo, it is just the transformation of becoming one of the empty child that does it for me

[@jeffwalker7185]

The Family of Blood storyline also had the original occupants of their bodies effectivly killed at the start of the story.

[@DexTag]

The old Amy death was honestly heartbreaking. It's true that all went "back to normal" since they had the normal Amy back, but these are the same Amies. Imagine you fight for your life not really knowing what's going on, and after several decades of hope that you'll be rescued by the 2, they do show up and you're left behind, instantly giving up, having you being replaced by you, but those are still split brains.

[@hvlogsmagic7709]

I would just like to mention rose tyler who was trapped in a parallel universe, never allowed to see the doctor again and captain jack harkness who is doomed to live forever having to watch everyone he loves grow old.

[@rhodopisdenile8977]

Yeah but she got a happy ending, the doctor and donnas weird clone form got to live with her.

[@JarikMorningstar]

I somehow just now found this channel but happily subscribed!

[@kemmdog4444]

Couldn’t they just clone Ursula a new body?Or maybe a flesh avatar?

[@sonowbrand7824]

Yes, but she's a non-recurring side character so no.

[@kemmdog4444]

@@sonowbrand7824 They should do a Doctor Who Lockdown on it.

[@joeyreeve6017]

If you look at the episode there is some explanation in it. Still pretty stupid tho.

[@jacobmangus2382]

I didn’t know this channel existed and now I’m happy

[@yourimaginaryfriend9075]

Bill Potts is not dead, her girlfriend \spaceship turned her back into humanoid\spaceship in the end. She is still alive

[@tommy_t684]

I don't even want to think about what your man there got up to with his girl in the paving slab when they're alone 🤣

[@jrheiselt]

Amy: You think you are just going to come back to life again? Rory: When don't I? You have to admit Rory has had it pretty rough. He had to wait over 1800 years. He has died like 7 different times. I think the only character to die more times in a series is Yamcha.

[@Dasharr]

In Heaven Sent, the Doctor died every few days for several billion years.

[@Here_is_Waldo]

@@Dasharr Yeah, but he doesn't remember any of the other times, just the last.

[@Dasharr]

@@Here_is_Waldo But he still died a lot more times than Rory.