10 Easily Busted EV Myths

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Double J's List

Double J's List

20 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching! When you get a chance, send this to your conservative uncle!
Here are the myths that are busted:
1. They make more carbon dioxide when they are produced than what they save.
2. The electricity used to power them burns more fossil fuels than what a traditional car with an internal combustion engine produces.
3. Charging an EV at home will make your electric bill skyrocket.
4. Electric Vehicles are expensive.
5. Batteries are terrible for the environment to produces and they aren't recyclable.
6. EV batteries have a really short life and are expensive to replace.
7. EVs are bad in the Winter
8. Electric cars are more likely to start on fire.
9. The Government is forcing you to buy an EV.
10. EVs are no good for roadtrips.
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@philbo7770
@philbo7770 16 күн бұрын
BEV’s are not for everyone, and are not ideal in every circumstance, but have worked for me for 6 years.
@doublejslist
@doublejslist 16 күн бұрын
You nailed it!
@Whole_Leash_It
@Whole_Leash_It 17 күн бұрын
Why do they always omit the transportation and distribution of gasoline and diesel produces a large quantity of CO2 gasses in ships and diesel trucks. Distribution of electricity produces next to nothing? Also that it requires cobalt to refine gasoline?
@user-fl4pi2ut9c
@user-fl4pi2ut9c 17 күн бұрын
It's inconvenient for the people who told them that false info.
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
The electric grid infrastructure is overburdened as it is. Don't they still burn fossil fuels to produce some electricity? The Grid can be easily shut down by storms like in Texas as we speak. They can also be hacked and shut down through sabotage by evil people.
@doublejslist
@doublejslist 16 күн бұрын
They also forget that the process of extracting oil from the earth is pretty awful too.
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 16 күн бұрын
Are you advocating battery powered container cargo ships?
@onpoint2292
@onpoint2292 16 күн бұрын
No; he's advocating that some people online cut the BS. Internal Combustion Vehicles pollute more than EVs. You don't even have to like EVs to acknowledge that basic fact. The production process for both Electric and Combustion engine vehicles is similar; the argument the other comments are making is that the studies that claim EVs pollute more as part of their production process or as part of operating them have poor methodology that is lenient in ICEs and strict towards EVs. Just look at the reduction in Smog in major cities that widely adopted EVs. With EVs the Cobalt, and Lithium mining is very dirty, but with ICEs the Petroleum mining is dirty too. And don't forget, once that Crude oil gets refined, it can only get used once before you have to mine for more.
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 18 күн бұрын
I once had a grown person tell me, in all seriousness, that if they drew a circle around my car with salt, my Tesla would no longer function.
@doublejslist
@doublejslist 18 күн бұрын
Next time I stop by I’ll bring the Morton’s.
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
Probably a "conservative uncle" or "certain news agencies"...
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 16 күн бұрын
@@pinkysgarage4517 nah it was a friends gf. My trump loving, conservative uncle really likes my Tesla. He was surprised at the build quality because all you ever hear is how bad it is (it isn’t) and how fast it was. Not to mention, hoping for the failure of Tesla is hoping for the failure of a massive American based company. My model 3 is more American made than your Ranger. By a large margin lol.
@st-ex8506
@st-ex8506 16 күн бұрын
This person was into voodoo?
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 16 күн бұрын
@@st-ex8506 lol I didn’t ask the specifics
@dhs1985
@dhs1985 16 күн бұрын
I mostly clicked because you've got an AMX in the background, I own a 1969 Javelin, but I daily drive a 2012 LEAF, working on an EV conversion so I can daily something in-between. I'll never stop being an enthusiast, I'll always enjoy driving my old cars and look forward to being able to choose between stock, modified and EV converted chrome bumper cars. But for now, a cheap LEAF is a great run around car.
@evanleo7633
@evanleo7633 17 күн бұрын
One point people forget about EV is EV is not just for the environment, it’s also very important in geopolitics, no matter how efficient and clean a gas/non- plug in hybrid is, it still uses OIL and most of the countries in the world can’t produce enough oil for itself (including all superpower except Russia) with adoption of EV a country can greatly reduce it’s oil dependency on foreign nations, because EVs are the most “multi fuel” vehicles out there, it can runs whatever produces electricity
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 16 күн бұрын
Gasoline consumption increases at a faster pace than so-called EV adoption. If you attended a bar-b-que and only ate a salad, someone else would eat the briskette! The dog isn't going to eat it. The same thing happens with petroleum. Petroleum has a multiplicatude of uses - every drop will find a buyer. EVs can never shrink petroleum consumption - unless there are political bans. Even the roads are paved with asphalt made from the residual tar from refining.
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 16 күн бұрын
On Yahoo News : Mitch McConnell’s Sister-In-Law Died After Accidentally Reversing Tesla Into Pond "Chao then made a panicked call to a friend as her electric car became further submerged into the Austin-area pond. Chao’s friends reportedly tried to rescue her, with at least one jumping into the water." Angela Chao was a billionaire, the sister of a former U.S. Transportation Secretary
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 15 күн бұрын
@@timothykeith1367 it’s probably a good idea to not drive any car period into a pond. And a good idea to learn where the emergency door handle is.
@stephenwhite3576
@stephenwhite3576 15 күн бұрын
She could have been drunk.
@doublejslist
@doublejslist 10 күн бұрын
That’s terrible, but it could have been done in a non-EV.
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 10 күн бұрын
@@stephenwhite3576 she most certainly was drunk. And rather than doing anything to save herself in the minutes the car sank, she called people and talked to them about what was happening. They couldn’t help her, and she died.
@psychosis7325
@psychosis7325 16 күн бұрын
I'm a mechanic by trade and have owned and worked on significant portion of everything that ever come to Australia... I broke down the entire life cycle carbon equivalent of a Tesla model 3 vs most of the cars I ever owned for doing an engine rebuild and general freshen up and driving it for 500,000km or making the Tesla from scratch and driving it the same distance including all the servicing, tyres, fuel/electricity, the lot. Only vehicle that punched on with the Model 3 was my old Suzuki Might Boy 553cc little 2 seater ute that is built like a can of coke and if you crash doing more than 40kmh you will die..... So what do I drive??? A Subaru Forester 👍 I drive about 1000km a year and will never touch the emissions of any new EV with the used gas guzzler and would be a waste me using up good new batteries anyway. I have been keeping an eye on used Leafs though and they are almost in the sweet spot for me to get one soon 👌
@doublejslist
@doublejslist 16 күн бұрын
You are an Aussie and you drive a Subaru?! Get out of town!
@psychosis7325
@psychosis7325 15 күн бұрын
​​@@doublejslist yep, 04 Forester at the moment. Had an EJ swapped and lifted L Series many moons ago that a fell in love with and after a spine injury and not being able to off road I built a VT Super 6 with the L67 for burnouts, set of high ratio rockers, custom 3" A2A manifold and high rise fuel rails etc to accommodate, dekka 65lb injectors, shaved snout blower with a ""20psi"" pulley that made about 17-18lb with the big intercooler and stuff, 4.11 swapped diff, nvram swapped ecu etc etc etc.... Was fun but with roasted spine it hurt like hell to really give it to her so put her up for sale for a bit but got little interest as was too custom for most and really wanted an e80 tune, more efficent blower or some water meth cos she was hot AF even with intercooler and could make a lot more power with more timing if that was proper controlled. Got lots of interest in the blower and A2A as I'd hand polished it all so took her out and skidded a few sets off while dialing in more and more timing expecting to melt a hole in a piston but she took well more degrees than I expected and I ended up doing a wristy instead. Was a bonus cos I sold heads with the blower and I expected to kill them...... Foresters SUV high seat/position is great with a bad back but I honestly F'n dread doing anything to it or driving it much. Its had most the stuff done that is a typical issue but she has not had some MLS gaskets and studs yet and I'm questionable on the clutch kit they said was done... She should do for what I need in an intrem vehicle waiting on EV market. I drive so little now the unsealed combustion environment my oil is exposed to and short drives it's just not conducive to a happy ice engine.... Batteries that prefer shallow cycles and sealed electric motors though 👌 perfect for my now days use, would of been useless in past as I lived rural and needed tow range. Can't load a trailer on now so not a worry.
@psychosis7325
@psychosis7325 15 күн бұрын
@@doublejslist oh should also add I owned 2x Geminis, a white 1.6 and a black 2l, also had an RX7 rail car, misti express van, excel, 121, suzuki hatch 800 and probably a few things I can't think of 👍 I like a bit of everything but mostly lean to small engines and least favorites like the super 6, could of easily made same power cheaper with LS but that's not as cool IMO, 800cc swapped and turbo'd mighty boy is tho..... Ultimate dream car is a Suzuki Cappuccino. I'll take like 6 👌 lift one, ls swap one, rotor one, ev one, OG one and a spare to think about.
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
For the record, Double J is a personal friend of mine. I like him and respect his opinions. I enjoy his videos. The last couple of days have been so fun. Discussions and opinions matter. I sincerely hope everyone has a safe and happy weekend. I will be enjoying my weekend with a bunch of fossil fuel!
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
JJ, you're welcome for getting your newest video off to a good start. If you make money from this, you owe me lunch!
@michaelkennedy8888
@michaelkennedy8888 18 күн бұрын
In mass, the supercharger rates are 30-40 cents per kwh. My home rate is 31. It is basically even with the gas cost. No tou option here with ngrid.
@doublejslist
@doublejslist 18 күн бұрын
My home rate at night is $0.09!
@TeslaDo_d
@TeslaDo_d 17 күн бұрын
Wow! Is it the same National Grid that serves upstate NY with an off-peak rate of $.04 to $.08 over the last 4 years? You're getting screwed.
@diydrivenGA
@diydrivenGA 16 күн бұрын
In Georgia, public charging is .47 kw and home electric rate is .17.... for now.
@cuzzman01
@cuzzman01 17 күн бұрын
I think on the first point, what they are saying is, the battery life of the car is nearly over at 7 years by the time the EV surpasses ice vehicles. Maybe thats true for some ev's but many have longer battery life
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 16 күн бұрын
On most grids it's around 40,000 kms. So it depends how far you drive the car, the amount of C02 in the grid and also the car manufacturer's actual processes.
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 16 күн бұрын
IE it's not 7 years.
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 16 күн бұрын
EV batteries would age just sitting on a shelf - if thst could ever happen, just like gasoline can go bad, the battery chemistry degrades with age. Regardless of the miles a ten year old EV battery is questionable. A Totota Yaris with its easy maintenance will go 500,000 miles and then it's repairable for more - a used motor from a wrecked Yaris is cheap. Yaris are the atomic cockroach of cars. Until there is an EV like Yaris the masses won't trust EVs.
@st-ex8506
@st-ex8506 16 күн бұрын
@@timothykeith1367 BULLSHIT! I haven't seen or heard of a single ICE car who ever did 500k miles on the original engine, without a complete top- or even compete overhaul. The only part left of the original engine is often the crankcase with the serial number plaque! The masses, at least here in Europe, scrap their ICE car after 100k miles on average for petrol models, and 150k miles for diesel ones. The number of cars getting to 500k miles is around 0.00167%! EXCEPT Teslas! The huge advantage with a second-end EV is that you can have a thorough battery diagnostic done easily and for little money. A comparable ICE engine diagnostic would require what amounts to a top-overhaul to the least!
@dchubworldsharenetwork
@dchubworldsharenetwork 9 күн бұрын
If you haven't seen any ICE vehicles over 500k with an original engine, maybe it's because you don't want to hear. How my BMW E46 2000 now has 200k, and how could 6 of our cars have/had between 160-220k with the original engine? Ok, we sold 2 cars that had between 210-240k with the original engine but were still running normally. Yes they are gasoline, except for 2 that we sold had 210k and 240k diesel. You have no idea what your talking about at all! 100k on average 🤣 You literally have no idea what your talking about.
@uniwerksdesign
@uniwerksdesign 18 күн бұрын
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@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 18 күн бұрын
H8r
@uniwerksdesign
@uniwerksdesign 18 күн бұрын
@@94wvwglxvr6Much love my friend. 😘
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
Best comment yet! Short but sweet!
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 17 күн бұрын
So many cities across the USA have issues with the electric grid during the summer. Rolling brown outs and/or blackouts. If they can't keep up with air conditioners, how would they cope with a large increase in EV's?
@Whole_Leash_It
@Whole_Leash_It 17 күн бұрын
@@pinkysgarage4517 Current grid issues DO NOT stem from EVs as they are mostly charged on off peak times. The current threat to grids are the energy to run AI systems
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 16 күн бұрын
I think most grids in the US that have problems, they stem from weather related events rather than people running aircons. Ok - I'm not that familiar with all of the US but if it is a problem, it's a power company problem not an EV problem. To put it simply - do better. Put in the capital works to make it better. You're one of the richest countries in the world and there is zero excuse for a poor quality grid. EVs can actually help the grid by charging up when demand is low and when V2G becomes commonplace selling power back to the grid at peak. Or powering your whole house if a storm takes out the grid.
@GabrielSBarbaraS
@GabrielSBarbaraS 16 күн бұрын
My electric company shuts my hot water tank and ac off remotely when they are in trouble, I would guess they can do the same with high power ( level 2 ) charging of electric cars.
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
@@Whole_Leash_It I never said it was caused by EV's. But to drastically increase the number of EV's would further tax an already fragile infrastructure.
@Whole_Leash_It
@Whole_Leash_It 16 күн бұрын
@@GabrielSBarbaraS Exactly where do you live that a public utility has control of your home appliances?
@normyanke2515
@normyanke2515 17 күн бұрын
in an emergency you can't wait for an ev to charge up, many buildings don't allow one to park underground, insurance due to fires and depreciation is huge, not looking good.
@bellshooter
@bellshooter 16 күн бұрын
In an emergency you don't have to drive to a gas station as your EV is is 80+% charged every day! What buildings don't allow EV parking? Insurance is a few % higher as garages are mostly not competent with EV repair. Gas cars are 30 times more likely to catch fire than EV's, from real data not myth.
@ObiePaddles
@ObiePaddles 16 күн бұрын
So much crap in 1 sentence
@oldarkie3880
@oldarkie3880 16 күн бұрын
1) after about 5 years the EV will need to be replaced (sooner if in minor accident) 2) The grid will not support EVs 3) the cost of depreciation and batteries makes you a fool compared to fuel cost. 4) Insurance cost is very high, some will not even cover you. I object to taxpayers helping pay for your EV myth NOT busted 5) The battery technology can not reinvent science 6) The EV has a 1000 lb battery very similar to cell phones do not work in cold or hot weather. temperatures make the range go way down 7) Just fine if you only need to go 50 miles If your ICE runs out of fuel you can put gas out of a can in 2 minutes 8) Entire ships and parking lots of cars have been lost. 9) Just give the government more time. Used ICE cars will be more expensive. See California 10) Road trip limited and stressful.
@onpoint2292
@onpoint2292 16 күн бұрын
My man. Are Electric Vehicles really your concern or is it that EVs go against your political views? I used to be very strongly anti-EV, and anti-climate change policy less than 2 years ago. I listened to the likes of Steven Crowder and a whole host of conservative commentators on the issue. I am still conservative, but I realized that EVs and climate related issues are a major blind spot for the Republican party. There's a lot of people who strongly dislike organizations such as the IPCC and Democrats so much that they lose their objectivity on the science behind these matters. What changed my mind was focusing on my career in STEM, and staying informed on the topics that I was told I was being lied to about. I'm not gonna go point-by-point; you can do your own research. But I would encourage you to step back from this issue for a second and see why you disagree so strongly when it comes to this piece of technology. Are you sure that this video creator was wrong about every single point? Even the claim that EVs pollute more than ICEs? 🤨 Even the fact that Electric grids are successfully charging EVs? Dude stop listening to people whose specialty is Politics when it comes to matters of Technology.
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
Excellent points. Thank you!
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
@@onpoint2292 You cheapen the discussion by bringing in politics. Nobody has been referencing politics. EVERTYTHING has become political.
@doublejslist
@doublejslist 10 күн бұрын
I pretty much countered all of your points in my video already. I’ve actually owned EVs, a plug-in hybrid, and other traditional hybrid vehicles. What’s your real-life experience with alternative energy vehicles?
@bobbybishop5662
@bobbybishop5662 17 күн бұрын
EVs are a pain in the butt .
@user-fl4pi2ut9c
@user-fl4pi2ut9c 17 күн бұрын
Only if you're selling gas cars
@philbo7770
@philbo7770 16 күн бұрын
This is true If it comes with poorly designed or badly constructed seats.
@ObiePaddles
@ObiePaddles 16 күн бұрын
Not as much as people making stupid comments like this.
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 16 күн бұрын
@@user-fl4pi2ut9c If they are SO popular, why does the government have to FORCE automakers to produce EV's? Why does the government have to give huge tax credits to people that buy them?
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 18 күн бұрын
Oh, and EV car fires are almost IMPOSSIBLE to extinguish. They burn until they stop burning.
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 18 күн бұрын
It’s a good thing they hardly ever happen!
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 18 күн бұрын
@@pinkysgarage4517 I’ve seen more gas cars burn with my own eyes in real life than I’ve seen Tesla fires on the internet.
@DeveloperChris
@DeveloperChris 17 күн бұрын
ICE cars are 60 times more likely to catch fire when sitting parked. Hybrids are something like 80 times more likely. also CATL and BYD have self suppressing batteries that put themselves out in the very unlikely event of a fire. some new chemistries cannot catch fire to begin with. so in a few years people will go "WTF are you talking about whats an EV fire?"
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 16 күн бұрын
There is no doubt EVs are more difficult to extinguish in the rare event they do catch fire. But firefighting depts are catching up with the use of special blankets, water devices designed to penetrate the battery and cool it down and short it out. Also, apart from catastrophic accidents, EV fires generally start much more slowly than gas fires, giving occupants more time to evacuate the vehicle. We've heard a lot about EV fires but not many fatalities resulting directly from the fire. They just tend to make the news because negative EV stories get clicks and clicks make money.
@bellshooter
@bellshooter 16 күн бұрын
@@mondotv4216 Absolutely correct , EV's 20-100 times LESS likely to catch fire, from real published data.
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 18 күн бұрын
The mining of lithium for batteries rapes the land in many countries and often employs child or slave labor. Replacement batteries for EV's are astronomically priced. Recycling the old batteries is challenging at best. EV chargers across the country are being pillaged for the copper, making charging challenging. Good luck going on a road trip with your family. Hybrids make SOME sense. EV's do not to most people. Yet the government is FORCING them on us. Used EV values are close to nothing. Try trading in an EV and getting a decent buck for it. Know you and love you like a brother, JJ, but I think EV's are NOT the answer. At least not in their current form. By the way, I gave you a "like" just for the effort. And don't talk about "conservative uncles" and "certain news agencies". You're better than that.
@kelviskelvis7140
@kelviskelvis7140 18 күн бұрын
@pinkysgarage4517 Thieves siphon gas which leaves the victim stranded all the time in ICE vehicles. Gas pumps have skimmers to steal credit card info when you travel. Ice vehicles are astronomically over priced purely for profit for the elites. Good luck going on a road trip with your family when the transmission fails every time. Hybrids make no sense when an engine is used. Try trading in an ICE vehicle and getting a decent buck for it when every one knows you are selling unfix-able problems with the engine and transmission. And always stay away from "certain news agencies" because they are force feeding the oil industry lies on us. And drilling for oil used to produce gasoline rapes the land and oceans in all countries and always employs child and slave labor. JJ hit the spot with this post. An EV may not be for you but the rest of us it is beginning to make sense.
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 18 күн бұрын
Hoping you posted this from your coal fired computer! Cobalt is found in any lithium battery, along with catalytic converters for gas cars, computer hard drives, it’s used in the process of refining crude oil into gasoline, airbags for all vehicles, drill bits, superalloys which are used in making jet engines for planes (hopefully you never took a plane ride) magnets, tires, enamels, paints…. I could go on. But, you live a cobalt free life with that comment, correct?
@94wvwglxvr6
@94wvwglxvr6 18 күн бұрын
As far as the road trip comment, the 1.5% of the year I go on a roadtrip and don’t charge off of a dryer outlet in my basement, I have had zero issues. The Tesla infrastructure is the best in the business and growing every day. The 3rd party ones (electrify America EVgo etc) are hot garbage and I will not defend that at all.
@TeslaDo_d
@TeslaDo_d 17 күн бұрын
Just did a flawless 3600 mile roadtrip from upstate NY to Black Hills, SD. We even used a couple chargers in Canada. No problems, no waits, no sweat in a Tesla. But I agree that JJ should not talk about conservatives and political sides. I am a conservative...a fiscal conservative. Hence the EVs, battery powered lawn equipment, solar panels and VTOU electricity rates, which all make my wallet much 'greener'. EVs, solar and wind power, are all economic certainties from which no county or household will be able to escape. They are cheaper for me NOW. They will be cheaper for everyone EVENTUALLY (within 5 years).
@DeveloperChris
@DeveloperChris 17 күн бұрын
I hope you ditched that mobile phone of yours and went back to a landline. In other words don't prove yourself to be a hypocrite.
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