10 Facts About Being An Admin 3F5X1 in the U.S. Air Force!!

[@tinomartinez7820]

SNCO Admin here. As this young lady stated, we have a pretty amazing job. Once you earn the trust of your Commander or the Chief you work for it can open up so many doors for you in the AF. No matter which level you get sent to (I started at the Group level as an A1C) just kill it and never treat your customers like crap or get a big head just bc you work for the Commander. Try to do a couple of years in downtown D.C. or the Pentagon bc that is where our jobs full potential can be realized. There are so many cool 3 letter agencies and Defense Attaches that you can work for and so many lives you will touch as an admin. We can go to any base in the AF, work for any careerfield besides medical (they have their own admins), and any joint command under the DoD.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Tino Sanchez yes sir/ma’am DC and or the Pentagon is a goal of mine! Thank you for your input.

[@tinomartinez7820]

​@@ImperfectlyAshe Nice to hear. Easiest way to get out there is applying on AMS or doing a short tour and just putting D.C. open area and Pentagon on your dream sheet. Once you get out there its easy to network and move around the different agencies. Some spots even let you wear civilian business attire at work. Goodluck!

[@emmaknightt]

How often do you deploy?

[@Ashley-yt24]

Finally, a video that answers what the typical day-to-day administration job is really like. 👍 Thank you so much!

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Ashley You’re very welcome!!

[@danielgadberry4998]

Thank you so much for this! I leave in 20 days for BMT as admin. So excited.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

You welcome and Congrats!! Its a lot of work at times but its the best job!

[@mickfunny4185]

@ZEUS BERRY are you still in the USAF, hows it going🤔

[@dante6276]

I’m getting medically cross trained from being a crew chief right now and I’m really considering this career field and I couldn’t find much on this except through other people I know on my base, Thank you !

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

I was a crew chief on KC135 before I cross trained

[@matthewellis663]

Wow. All I could have wanted and more. Thanks for being real. I’m gettin’ excited.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Matthew Ellis you’re welcome and best of luck

[@hello_jojo2394]

Thanks for posting this video!! Currently in the process enlisting in the air force reserve. Admin is one the jobs I qualified for.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

twocupsofJo thank you for watching

[@meganhelton4523]

I just got approved for Administration for the Air Force and I'm so excited. Than you for the tips! Do you have a video on how Teach School was?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Megan Helton no only because when I went to tech school for admin I was considered prior service so my experience was nothing like a person new to the Air Force or Military for that matter. Thank you for watching

[@key2499]

I’m doing administration in the AF very excited. My recruiter wants me to do the DLAB however.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

MJC 5 I think you should do it if you feel linguist is a good fit for you now or even in the future

[@key2499]

Imperfectly Ashe late reply, but I’m an e2 in tech school already lol. They switched my job and I went to open general.. it sucked. I’m a 2S011 material management in lackland..

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

MJC 5 I know sorry I swear I thought I replied a year ago....did you ever take the DLAB?

[@key2499]

Imperfectly Ashe I know about it, but didn’t take it. It’s to see if you can take a linguistic job. The test has an auditory part and it revolves around a made up language the Air Force made to see if you can identify the “ language “ correctly.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

MJC 5 oh I’m very familiar with the test just wondering if I it ever went to take it because if you did I think those scores if good would make you eligible for a linguist job if you wanted to cross train down the line

[@bstatt8109]

I just took my ASVAB and went through MEPS and got 3F5X1 👌

[@chall7684]

what was you score?

[@fobbyP]

thank you for this video!!!! muchly appreciated

[@soiceygang6649]

On my top list of jobs I qualified for, I put materiel management as my number 1 choice. Hoping to get that and I put personnel as number 2 but I been in the dep program since January 22nd since I swore in. Hoping to get a job open this month

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

So when I first was doing Active Duty I was in DEP for 4 months but I know everyones timeline is different.

[@soiceygang6649]

Imperfectly Ashe so why u switch

[@soiceygang6649]

Imperfectly Ashe my recruiter said I’ll be in dep for 2-3 months at most tho but hopefully I get a job opening this month

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

@@soiceygang6649 At the time I thought I fell in love with someone smh

[@soiceygang6649]

Imperfectly Ashe sorry to hear that so when you was in dep for active duty, u changed for reserves? Add my IG yungballer618 so we can talk more on this( not the bf situation)

[@ismailadiaby8524]

Thank you ! It was helpful

[@jaynell5695]

Thank you for posting this! I couldn't find much information in regards to the 3F5x1 position! I was offered an Air transportation job or Admin, hopefully I made the right decision. How is tech school and exams?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Tech school is easy far as work and the block tests. This job is very much learn as you go

[@yashikacolon7986]

Oh wow I didn’t know the Air Force did DTS too! Awesome!!!

[@Ezek44]

Would you happen to know more information regarding prior service? I have an honorable discharge from the Marines as Administration. I'm wondering if I have to keep my MOS or is there a way where i can change my job? Btw good video. All those tips are accurate, different branch but basically the same thing.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

No you don’t have to keep your MOS. They will evaluate your ASVAB and go about picking jobs from there...I would advise you research the jobs you are interested in to make sure you have the ASVAB scores for it first. Taking the asvab again is always an option

[@billybob5859]

Hi I top my top list for admin I’m really excited. How long do I have to wait for open spot job for admin and for bmt.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Well my first job was actually as a maintainer. I crossed trained into this job after 3 years so I can’t give you a timeline. My 1st job I left quickly.

[@EthanE12545]

Wish me luck bc I will be goin got Air Force marines and navy it’s gonna be hard but my family was in some forces and some in every force so I want to be like them and be a rank in the navy my fam was so huh they could not go any higher if nobody believes me just don’t but wish me luck in some years or a little Time away

[@augustosiqueira3111]

I just had a stroke reading this

[@jazmynroth265]

Admin vs personnel? Im thinking of cross training from OSS. Im looking for a job to transfer to that will translate best on the civilian side. I know personnel transfers to Human Resources does admin aswell? Or if not what does it transfer to? Thank you 😊 love you video

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Jazmyn Warren both transfer well to civilian specifically government contracting and government civilian. I recommend cross training to personnel because military/government agencies are more familiar with what personnelist do. I can’t tell you how many people assume I’m a personnelist because of the knowledge and systems I know but all admin don’t get the chance to learn all systems. Now that I have my 7 level I’m actually considering getting the personnel AFSC it’s just more opportunities. If you do government contracting both AFSCs will transfer over well but I recommend personnel. Hope this helps. Thank you I am working on my consistency as I say in every video🤦🏽‍♀️ but stick around I have more coming. DTS tutorials, MiLPDS etc

[@ItsAsiaShannel]

DO you know any other jobs that schedule best fits a single parent?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Asia Lewis admin, personnel, logistics, comm, cyber

[@ItsAsiaShannel]

@@ImperfectlyAshe thank you

[@rand_-mk5lb]

@@ImperfectlyAshe What do you think translates better for civilian work, logistics or personnel? And yes, I like both.

[@cpaul57]

In this careerfield, you can make E7 in 8 years in the air national guard.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

I’ve worked, maintenance, HQ, Joint Staff and DISA and also been in the Reserves you’re statement isn’t only exclusive to this career field. It all depends on your leadership

[@cpaul57]

@@ImperfectlyAshe but in admin, people like u have a easier chance to E7 promotion in 8 years. Just about everyone wants to retrain in to FSS. I wouldn't because its a glorified secretary position.

[@Minha_Viagem28]

Hello! I loved your video thank you for the info! I am debating whether to go Officer or enlisted to the AF (mostly because the wait is so long to ship for officer and I was told I can enlist and then go officer a year after being in my duty station). What is your opinion on that? I REALLY love Admin and personnel jobs. Would Personnel Officers work in conjunction with your job as admin? My husband is Active duty E 7 in the Army and his MOS is pretty much anywhere since he works with computers so I am happy that you said admin jobs are every where because I want to make sure our probabilities of getting based together are WAY higher by me choosing a job that's not restrictive with choices of bases. Would it be the same if I go officer, or are there less positions available as officers vs enlisted? I really appreciate all your input :)

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

My personal opinion is wait for the officer position. As a personnel officer you will work directly with ppl like me and will do similar tasks. Executive Officer, Military Personnel Management Officer there a couple. If you like helping people than this field enlisted or officer is the way to go. It’s hard to go Officer after being enlisted it’s something I plan to do next year but it is doable. What I can say that if you go enlisted the knowledge will help you tremendously when you become a personnel officer later. Thank you let me know if you have anymore questions

[@Minha_Viagem28]

@@ImperfectlyAshe Thank you! I will continue studying for the AFOQT. Do you know if there are less options available for officers when PCSing vs Enlisted?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

No it’s about the same for new officers Ltd and Captains. When you say PCSing what do you mean?

[@Minha_Viagem28]

@@ImperfectlyAshe sorry I meant when is time for you to be moved to a new duty station. I know with the Army is about every 3 years, not sure how often the AF moves individuals.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

I’ve always been in the reserve components the Air Force so I can’t speak to PCSing and how often bc that’s more so on the active duty side

[@JasperKaamino716]

How long did you have to wait to get this job???

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Not long but that was right before the tech school wasn’t bombarded with new admins.

[@marjorie_shaiann5321]

Hey, so I am currently studying to take my test and this job is on my list how likely would I be able to get this job and leave for bmt ASAP? Or would I have to wait for a ship out date

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

From what I here the tech school is booked up so you may be waiting a while but it’s worth it

[@marjorie_shaiann5321]

Imperfectly Ashe aw man what about health service management one then lol

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Medical usually is a long wait as well 😬

[@alopecianbeauty_9783]

Hello! How long where you DEPd in before you shipped out? I’ve been DEPd in for 2 months I’m going admin but i still haven’t got my ship out date I’m so ready to leave! I know people that DEPd in a month after I did and they know their ship out date already

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

So when I first joined I was USAFR Air Force Reserve which I think is handled the same as active duty...but I enlisted in October and ship in November. But when I first joined I wasn't admin I was a crew chief (aircraft maintenance) too that makes a difference. Admin and Personnel school fills up quick

[@imjusthere4thecomments...951]

Thank you so much for sharing. I'm Air Force Reserve prior service that's going to be at the 3F tech school within the next few months. I hear I won't have to stay in the dorms with tech school students right out of basic training so where would I be staying at? How are the dining facilities on base?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

More than likely you’ll be in on base lodging/hotel. I was lucky enough to get a 2 bedroom condo off base because lodging was unavailable. Dinning Hall is cool I ate off base most days.

[@imjusthere4thecomments...951]

@@ImperfectlyAshe yeah, I hear that sometimes you can get to stay off base. I'm kind of excited to go. I'm cross training into the Admin field and it's something I wanted to do when I was active duty years ago but it never happened. Thanks for the response and I look forward to any more Air Force admin videos you do. Stay encouraged.

[@candisnicole1417]

Hey I just got this job I leave March 10th can you do an updated admin job please ❤️❤️

[@billybob5859]

I put this on my top list. I haven't got my ship date yet i hope i get this job.

[@candisnicole1417]

billybob5859 I did the same I’m sure you will I just got it just stay on top of you’re recruiter

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Ok...what questions do you have so I'll know what to hit on....I'm also a full-time student so I haven't had time to upload

[@candisnicole1417]

Imperfectly Ashe thank you and I understand stand I wanted to know 1)some topics we will go over during tech school 2) is this job flexible for trying to start school 3) what’s the day to day tasks 4) how long is tech school 5) how doesn’t it feel working close to the commander 6) not related but any tips on how to become an officer 7) how to prepare to promote btz or to staff Sergeant 8) Dos and don’t working with a commander 9) why do you feel this is the best job to choose

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

@@candisnicole1417 Got it will be sure to include them all....this weekend I'll put this on my to do with my other video on my move

[@dcerda2000]

How do your meetings go? Are they a everyday thing first thing in the morning? Do y’all present it?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Dave yes as a CSS in my org we ran the slides and briefed/presented on any admin/personnel issues. When you say how do they go it all depends on the purpose of the meeting

[@nasia928]

What’s your work schedule? Monday through..? And times

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

natavia goodwin depends on the organization but traditionally 8-4 or 9-5 I was working 0630-5pm Tuesday-Friday

[@yashikacolon7986]

@@ImperfectlyAshe you only worked Tuesday-Friday?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

@@yashikacolon7986 yes 10 hr days

[@linx1409]

Can u be an admin in Air Force national guard and will I expect to travel a lot in this job if I was in AFNG

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

It all depends on the organization you support and if they travel a lot. If they travel a lot and allow you to come than yes you will

[@gusmccarty1068]

I’m starting tech school for admin soon. Pretty worried about the course work because I don’t know what to expect. Do you have any tips for studying to get good scores?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Course work isn’t hard you just have to remember you learn something every week and have a block test in what you learned every week. You learn things like how to write a memo in word, how to properly title and write an email, steps of organizing a retirement ceremony etc just pay attention you will be fine

[@gusmccarty1068]

@@ImperfectlyAshe Thank you ma’am!

[@adonismorton9943]

Do you have to know how to type good and it is it a chill job overall?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Chill job? That depends on the unit your supporting and the commander. If you work at a unit that deploys a lot the tempo will go up and down because you’ll have to prepare to get them out than prepare for their return.

[@Quiznos67]

Hello, I’m currently in DEP, and hopefully I’ll get my date soon. I have Administration has my first choice and will start as a E3. You brought up that it is more female based on the job, and I’m a male. Have you ever seen any males in the job? Also is there a way I can learn these programs now to have a better background? Thank you, Qais!

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Hey….yes there are men in this job and I’ve worked with so even currently just in my experience I’ve seen more women. Unfortunately most of these programs are CAC enabled so no you won’t be able to.

[@brandonallen7836]

I just enlisted to become an Admin im also a male have you already went to basic and tech school?

[@bgurley1998]

I would love this kind of job in the Air Force. do you know if it is hard to get?

[@ThePaganSun]

I thought Personnel does MilPDS but not Admin??

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

So some places will give admin access after they have been trained by a personnelist.

[@insidiouskitty1]

As an admin, do you deploy or go on the field?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Yes you deploy most admin deployments are 6 months....unless you volunteer for the field I don’t see why an admin would be in field conditions

[@michellerivera6621]

Imperfectly Ashe is deployment often??

[@denaedutrieuille1605]

girli know i am super late but does your job require a clearance?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Yes it does and the level of clearance depends on the mission.

[@emmaknightt]

How often does admin get deployed?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

@@emmaknightt so that depends on a lot of factors to include whether you’re RegAF, Guard or Reserve. I have only been tasked once in 8 years in the Guard. But there have been so many opportunities where I could have if u wanted to. Most people in my experience have wanted to deploy and welcome it so rarely does it happened that you are forced to.

[@taniyaroberts7695]

What do you mean by programs????

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Ta'Niya Roberts what I mean is having the ability to learn the programs we use. For example a program we use is MilPDS it’s like a HR program that we use to manage a persons military career and personal information. I can’t think of a civilian equivalent to compare it to but Microsoft Suite is a program

[@taniyaroberts7695]

Thanks this helped a lot

[@peaceloveandsunflowers]

I want a medical job or admin... but I noticed some “medical jobs” like pharmacy and public health are under admin... do you think i should go open general or open admin?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Sunflower Child all I can say is if it’s a medical admin you can ONLY work for medical but if your just admin you can work anywhere except medical. So it depends on how broad you want your career and experience

[@peaceloveandsunflowers]

Imperfectly Ashe thank you! how do you book open admin? Did you still have to make a list? Or did you just list that one thing on your job list?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Sunflower Child I was Reserves than Guard so I picked my exact job

[@peaceloveandsunflowers]

Imperfectly Ashe aww ok I’m gonna look into reserves too... is it a hard transition

[@lyndonlonzanida]

Question: How would this translate to the civilian world? I am stuck between choosing jobs and I am wanting a career field that can translate to the civilian sector.

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Honestly you would be a well rounded secretary with a security clearance and knowledge of government systems

[@lyndonlonzanida]

@@ImperfectlyAshe May you please say that in like simpler terms? I apologize, a million of things are running in my head. I got denied going to OTS and I have a B.S. in Criminal Justice and my recruiter is mostly pushing me into Security Forces.

[@real_true_boss3236]

Does Admin deploy a lot?

[@0110101100011010]

Is Admin tech school hard?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

In my opinion no. Just don't get distracted and stay focused

[@jacuibell8118]

Philly or Baltimore

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Bladamore.

[@Wildbilly-x1v]

Would this job transfer to civilian life?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Yes it transfers well especially as a govt contractor

[@candisnicole1417]

Imperfectly Ashe hey being nosey but what is a government contractor if you don’t mind explaining I’m really into computers I really wanted a cyber job it looks like that’s not going to happen with the job list got because I wanted to get out and join some part of the government and I heard you mentioned you had to be good with software would this job be marketable for let’s say FBI ? And last question do you receive a top secret clearance for this job or just secret

[@mochinat2083]

Do you travel outside of the US?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

I will give a general answer of yes, it's possible.

[@michaelmitchell5377]

What score on the asvab do I need to get this job?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

I believer you need at least a 65 in the General category but don’t quote me on that.

[@missjennie4841]

But its waivable at 55

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Waivers are not a guarantee they are a option

[@Stephoya]

I thought is was 45 in the admin category? I scored 41 in admin which is good for personnel but too low for admin. I did however scored 68 in the general category.

[@Stephoya]

@@ImperfectlyAshe I thought is was 45 in the admin category? I scored 41 in admin which is good for personnel but too low for admin. I did however scored 68 in the general category.

[@misha8019]

Do you get to choose where do you get your assignment like which area as an admin after BMT if you are active duty or they choose or for you?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Misha 801 no you will get to submit a list (dream sheet) of bases you want but ultimately it’s where the Air Force needs you.

[@Amjlove]

Is it a boring job ?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Not at all...IMO

[@bgurley1998]

are you from Baltimore lol

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

Yes…you can hear my accent lol

[@willowmccullough2311]

I’m 17 and in the DEP. I’m worried about being an AA woman in the military and keeping my hair in regulation (especially in boot camp!) I have very long natural locs now, too much for a bun. Any advice?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

So I’ll try my best to answer this but I have never had locs and no one in my BMT flight had them but you have to find a way to either bun or pin them neatly above your collar. Please look up AFI 36-2903 they have updated it to show pictures of AA women with natural hair so you have an idea of how it should look. If your hair is too much for a bun you are going to struggle every morning or night to securely pin it or whatever you’ll have to do and BMT is not the place because it will make you a target. But it’s not impossible I’ve seen women with long locs who get them braided and pinned down

[@candisnicole1417]

Is 3f531 same as admin?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

yes the AFSC is 3F5X1...as you progress the X turns different skill levels...3 level, 5 level, 7 level. When I made this video I was a 3F551 5 skill level and now I am 3F571 7 skill level. I hope that helps

[@candisnicole1417]

Imperfectly Ashe thank you yes it does ❤️😊 do you have a say in where you are stationed like pentagon, embassy and ect ?

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

@@candisnicole1417 In a way, yes I do. If you are in the Reserve Component (RESERVES AND GUARD) I've been both you can apply for assignments at those different locations.

[@candisnicole1417]

Imperfectly Ashe thank you last two questions and I promise I will leave you alone I just can’t find anything on this job ... is this job really marketable as a civilian I am really into computers I wanted a cyber job it looks like that’s not going to happen with the job list received but I’m aiming to join some part of the government after getting out and I heard you mentioned you had to be good with software would this job be marketable for let’s say FBI ? And last question do you receive a top secret clearance for this job or just secret

[@ImperfectlyAshe]

@@candisnicole1417 So your clearance level is based on the organization you support so if you support a Cybe or Intel unit yes you will get a top secret but the AFSC itself only requires a secret. Far as civilian to be 100% honest in the civilian world they will look at you as secretary unless you stay within the govt or govt contracting.

[@crisarouca6932]

Hi, thank you for sharing your experience...Im trying to find the arrow computer program but im not sure if it is the right one..www.arrow.com/ecs/na can you please confirm? im already found excell 2016 courses online

[@danielrhome3652]

I have a wife sooo idk if I can do the #10