10 Flat Ride Cymbals Compared | Which Is Best For You?

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@jasonb2180
@jasonb2180 Жыл бұрын
This video did confirm that I am not a flat ride person, but I always enjoy a good DCOP video !! Well-done, as always, and I am sure some folks will be snapping these up soon!!
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@canoedoc2390
@canoedoc2390 Жыл бұрын
Great video. To my ears the 22" Paiste Masters Dark Flat Ride is the cat's meow. Have been in love with my 20" Ufip Flat rides in 3 different weights for 20 years. They are my go to rides but keep various 20," 21," and 22" standard Ufips with bells for louder applications or if using the bell for latin grooves. A stick with a wooden barrel tip, like the Vic Firth Dave Weckl signature, has a wonderful rebound feel and crystal articulation on flat rides.
@JasonSmith-jr7jh
@JasonSmith-jr7jh Жыл бұрын
You speak truth and wisdom, kind Sir.
@richardkemp5550
@richardkemp5550 Жыл бұрын
Loved all the Paistes but the 602 thin is what I'd like for Christmas, please Santa.
@supraphonic88
@supraphonic88 Жыл бұрын
lol at the Tom Morello photo I’ve been intrigued by flat rides ever since first being exposed to Carter Beauford’s 20” A Custom flat ride, so I’m going to say the brighter, cleaner sounds epitomize the concept for me personally.
@IAmInfinitus208
@IAmInfinitus208 Жыл бұрын
Paiste definitely. Especially the Masters 22!
@alexalja
@alexalja Жыл бұрын
And the winner is…RFM bass drum! Wow! Seriously, all flat rides sounds great. Some of them sounds more traditional and some got a trashier and modern vibe but all can shine in the right musical situation. You guys always doing an excellent job for the drum community. Thanks!
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@rok_koritnik
@rok_koritnik 2 ай бұрын
I just realized it's a flat ride I need. Either Paiste Traditionals or Masters. I've been battling dissonant overtones in ride cymbals and almost removed a ride from my setup. The flat rides (at least the two I liked) have very faint undertone and hardly a discernable pitch. I like that. Thank you for this comparison.
@winniemacchickenjack
@winniemacchickenjack Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Tom Morello picture when explaining that Joe Morello invented the flat rise.
@powbobs
@powbobs Жыл бұрын
That was hilarious.
@JasonSmith-jr7jh
@JasonSmith-jr7jh Жыл бұрын
The only thing Tom Morello (thinks he) invented is being a spoiled brat college kid '1 percenter' who preaches that Capitalism is evil and Marxist Socialism is virtuous and "true justice". Whoever put that picture in knows as much about Drumming and Drummers as Tom Morello knows about Flat Rides and having to work a real job. He may be a decent guitarist, but they are a dime a dozen. Otherwise, this was a fantastic foray into the underated realm of current Flat Rides!
@dustjacket1000
@dustjacket1000 Жыл бұрын
Settle down Horace
@chizzadbc
@chizzadbc Жыл бұрын
Classic DCP prank 😂
@shogun2215
@shogun2215 8 ай бұрын
Unchecked capitalism is evil. You Americans have been brainwashed just as badly as the Soviet Union brainwashed it's citizens.
@kevinremsen5627
@kevinremsen5627 Жыл бұрын
Paiste all the way. I've grown to appreciate the flat ride sound. Very musical given the right application!
@TH-pq3ly
@TH-pq3ly 7 ай бұрын
The fact that Paiste can even make B8 alloy sound that musical is a testament to their awesomeness.
@jerewind
@jerewind Жыл бұрын
Paiste Masters! this serie is extremely impressive in every respect: volume, sustain, crashability, weight and sumptuous hammering with very well-balanced harmonics.
@klauth_Yksyn
@klauth_Yksyn Жыл бұрын
Great to see Tom back in the mix, really enjoy his playing. 👍 The flat ride has been a secret weapon of mine (for recording) for quite some time now. nice to see and hear it being brought to the forefront.
@p.diddle
@p.diddle 6 ай бұрын
I own a Paiste Masters Dark 22 flatride, and it is hands down the best flat I have ever played. It is perfect for low to medium volume music and records very well. I love the clear stick and crystaline sound of the Paistes. They dont drown in a mix but stand out with clarity.
@SimonSaysDrum
@SimonSaysDrum Жыл бұрын
Cymbal Craftsmen/Royal Cymbals was my fav!! Great vid
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh Жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@RA2Music
@RA2Music Жыл бұрын
If I have any kind of a signature sound to my playing, it would be my aluminum snare and flat ride. I fell in love with the flat ride concept when I first played a 20” Zildjian A Flat in the mid ‘90s. For many years I played a vintage Sabian hand stamped 20” Flat (what would now be considered an AA). I recently switched to a Bosphorus 20” Black Pearl Flat and am enjoying it immensely. I would respectfully submit that a key consideration in choosing a flat ride is also the hats that will accompany them. The flat ride has a unique, crystalline sound that not all hats match up with sonically. For my Sabian I have a set of 14” Regular Hats from the same early ‘80s time period and with the Bosphorus a set of factory tonally matched 14” Black Pearl hats. Thanks for highlighting this unique type of ride cymbal and the various companies that continue to produce them.
@dancalabrese3523
@dancalabrese3523 Жыл бұрын
The Paiste's owned this category. Just the way I'd want a flat ride to sound. They'd be wonderful for jazz or some Latin numbers. Tom is so right about stick choice and cymbal sound and his playing is always so musical. Thank you for another great video.
@cosmokramer1213
@cosmokramer1213 Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I have preferred the Paiste's over everything else. Cool showcase DCP!
@LouProsperi
@LouProsperi Жыл бұрын
Of those I think my favorite was the Paiste 2002 20", followed closely by the Paiste Masters Dark 22". Earlier this year you had a used Zildjian A 20" Flat Ride that sounded AMAZING! If I'd had the budget I would have taken it home.
@omarcortes5754
@omarcortes5754 Жыл бұрын
I'm not much into flat rides but the Cappadocia and the Club Sizzle sound wonderful.
@woody4269
@woody4269 Жыл бұрын
Grt vid other Tony(?). I didn't even know flat rides were a thing. T kit sounded like a perfect choice for t demo too. Especially how t bass was tuned. Thank u 🍻
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bilbobeermaker8397
@bilbobeermaker8397 Жыл бұрын
Another great review, thanks guys. Awesome as always.
@CharlesTPrimm
@CharlesTPrimm Жыл бұрын
Fabulous drumming! I personally dig the 20" 2002. Sounds splendidly metallic.
@BrassAttack1
@BrassAttack1 4 ай бұрын
Out of all the players at DCP, Tom sounds like the most experienced and seasoned. As a result, he has the best touch, execution, language on the kit. and pocket. His playing best illustrates how these instruments sound when played well. I'd be happy if he did all of the demos. He is an asset to the DCP sales and marketing team. Also, kudos for demonstrating how the various stick types affect a cymbal's sound. This is often overlooked in video demos.
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh 4 ай бұрын
Tom is great!
@joc8
@joc8 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video, guys. I purchased my first flat ride about 8 weeks ago, a Meinl 20"Jazz Club Sizzle, and it hasn't been off my kit since! The Turkish Cappa caught my ear, too. Basically, they all had their own unique voice, although I'm not a fan of the Istanbul Agop Xist for general ride use. Enjoyed your playing, Tom. Thanks DCP for your videos!
@nickdenardo6479
@nickdenardo6479 Жыл бұрын
oh hell. i'm finally subscribing. i watch all your videos anyway..... i like the woodier sounding ones. Istanbul Turk flat ride, Meinl Jazz Tradition flat ride. the Turkish Cappadoccia (sp) was a nice surprise. love the funk of the complex sustain at the end. i own one flat ride, which is probably enough, but i have been toying with the idea of picking up a Meinl Jazz Tradition flat ride. the one on my floor over here is a 24" Bosphorous (that's right, 24") it's a Masters series. unlathed except for about 1/8" around the very edge. another fun and informative video. also, well produced
@indigo4953
@indigo4953 4 ай бұрын
Nice to hear some of the latest flat rides. I've use a Sabian Flat Ride (used to be called Flat Tops) since the mid 70's. I like the clean sticking and if I need more volume I just add a SM57 below the cymbal to match the standard one I have above it.
@stevecarter6707
@stevecarter6707 10 ай бұрын
Paiste 2002 or Formula 602. Both sound amazing. Fun fact, Charlie Watts used a flat ride with the Stones for many years.
@ynotw57
@ynotw57 Жыл бұрын
WOW! The Paiste rides 🤤🤤🤤 but mostly that Signature won me over.
@CornerStoreDrums
@CornerStoreDrums Жыл бұрын
DCP is top notch always! 💯🥁 I dig the Paiste 2002 myself. 🤙
@TheAngry-AmericanGuy
@TheAngry-AmericanGuy Жыл бұрын
WOW THAT 2002 IMMEDIATELY CAUGHT MY INTEREST, PERFECT JAZZ RIDE ! The 22 Masters Dark Ride is another damn good one ! ( This would be my choice purchase )
@JulioFalavigna
@JulioFalavigna 4 ай бұрын
Cymbal Craftsman 22 Flat Ride has got the most balanced/pleasing sound to my ears...
@Muskoxing
@Muskoxing Жыл бұрын
Wow, those all sound great. I think my picks are the Paiste Masters and the Cymbal Craftsman, but that 2002 sounded awesome as well.
@acidbran
@acidbran Жыл бұрын
I have a 602 blue label 20" that kills. All of them sound great.
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa Жыл бұрын
I can imagine situations for most of them, but if I were going to buy one for myself, it would almost certainly be the Paiste Traditionals. It has just the right balance of sparkle to wash for my taste. The second it came on, I thought to myself, "that's the sound". I half expected to hear Brubeck and Desmond join right in. Even after hearing all the others, I'd probably still choose it, and the only other contender for my ears was the Paiste Masters. I usually love everything 2002, but in this case, I felt the 2002 was just too much treble with too hollow of a middle.
@martinlaporte2112
@martinlaporte2112 Жыл бұрын
The 2002 flat ride is by far the best sounding one. A 22" version would be even better but Paiste doesn't make those...yet...😊
@Cmart50
@Cmart50 Жыл бұрын
yeah, wow that 2002 is nice. i have to look at that one with a bell....
@sumnerkinney2166
@sumnerkinney2166 Жыл бұрын
Great job Tom!!!
@James1623
@James1623 Жыл бұрын
That was a fabulous video was ever! The only thing I was slightly disappointed about if you didn’t showcase any Zildjian Flat Rides 😮
@C_475
@C_475 Жыл бұрын
istanbul really took a single cymbal from their clap stack and called it a flat ride lol
@LeakyJAZZ
@LeakyJAZZ Жыл бұрын
Hammered differently, larger than any clap stack cymbals, but also conveniently shaped so that yes you can actually use it to make a super phat clap stack, that was on purpose.
@telsonalves8060
@telsonalves8060 Жыл бұрын
Adoro os videos da DCP ,sempre explicativos , profissionais e que tanto ajudam aos anantes da Bateria ! Parabéns pessoal !!!
@RalphOnofrio
@RalphOnofrio 10 ай бұрын
GREAT demo....My next ride 22'' Flat ride....I like the Istanbul Turk 20'' ..My favorite is the Turkish 22'' Cappadocia ride....That one sings to me...........Ralph Onofrio.
@johnkelly4351
@johnkelly4351 Ай бұрын
There's a characteristic "old" 50s sound from the Turk Flat Ride 20". Reminds me of large Zildjians, but without the buildup.
@Ashlord
@Ashlord Жыл бұрын
Flat rides are 100% not my thing and I don't ever see myself playing one, but my favorites were the Paiste Masters Dark and the Istanbul Cappadocia :) That Cappa was super unique
@PrinceVinceOfficial
@PrinceVinceOfficial 5 ай бұрын
The Byzance sizzle was my fav, but man those Paistes are so nice.
@bobsondugnutt7526
@bobsondugnutt7526 Жыл бұрын
602 for me. Needle-like attack sounds great. Not sure what ride is used on Chick Corea - Return To Forever but I like that ride sound :)
@stevenkamperman9003
@stevenkamperman9003 Жыл бұрын
Legend has it that it is all the ecact same cymbal on Chick’s records, starting with Now he singa. And that was a 602. I believe an 18”, not sure about the size though.
@bobsondugnutt7526
@bobsondugnutt7526 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenkamperman9003 cool, thanks for the info!
@C0zyDunt
@C0zyDunt Жыл бұрын
Great vid again. Paiste Masters Dark 22" for me please.
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh Жыл бұрын
Thanks and great choice!
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 Жыл бұрын
I love my flat ride! It's excellent for baking pizza or use as a shield during sword practice!
@luigisavoia2401
@luigisavoia2401 Жыл бұрын
Hey. The search function at your website, how do I put this delicately , sucks. If I type ludwig drumset I get 0 results. If I type ludwig drums I get three pages of snares and toms. If I type just ludwig I get 3 pages of tee shirts and hardware before the first drumset shows up. Seemed to work better in the past.
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback- we are working on this.
@aaronraulston6248
@aaronraulston6248 Жыл бұрын
Paiste absolutely has the flat ride design and sound nailed down!!! All of them sounded incredible!! The 22 Masters and 22 602 thin were my two faves of the whole bunch!
@aaronraulston6248
@aaronraulston6248 Жыл бұрын
Of the non paistes…. The 22 Byzance jazz traditional was tops IMO
@dennislester9395
@dennislester9395 Жыл бұрын
What about Zildjian? I have two, 20" & 22". The first one I ever heard was a Paiste in the 1970's.
@the6ig6adwolf
@the6ig6adwolf Жыл бұрын
Flat ride + China = stacked goodness
@gaffroman
@gaffroman Жыл бұрын
I really want to know what this would sound like...
@carlupthegrove262
@carlupthegrove262 Жыл бұрын
I have two flat rides... the Sabian Royalty Ride (modeled after the Paiste ride Roy Haynes used with Chick Corea 18") and a 20" K Custom Flat Top Ride .... They are both great in the right situation. Which for me is mellow jazz in an intimate indoor setting. The Zildjian is brighter and probably projects a little more. The Sabian is darker and has a really nice 'smokey' quality. It's #33. Of the ones you demoed I really like the Paiste Masters 22". I can see having that in my collection The sizzle ride was nice too....hmmmm maybe I should add rivets to my Zildjian Flat Top
@Lumerdrums
@Lumerdrums Жыл бұрын
the 602 thin was really nice, but flat rides are not my type of cymbal :D
@jamesdennett196
@jamesdennett196 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the brighter ones, so the 602 and 2002 were the ones that caught my ear in the Paiste. I have a 2002 med ride and it was interesting that I could hear the 2002 sound still front and centre in the flat ride. Of the darker ones I liked the Meinl Byzance Trad. Interesting sound. Special mention has to go to the Royal Craftsman. A bit deeper in pitch for my taste, but still an exquisite sound. That Xist though???? What the hell? I genuinely don't get that one. I guess if you want that sound, fair enough. But to my ears it wasn't much different to just hitting a bit of sheet metal.
@pablokagioglu2546
@pablokagioglu2546 Жыл бұрын
I liked the Paiste’s best and in particular the 602 and Dark. I would pick one of those two and use different sticks for different responses.
@grantmarshall8879
@grantmarshall8879 Жыл бұрын
my mel lewis signature agop might as well be a flat ride and honestly its GORGEOUS. also dont sleep on Mike Mongiello's Prestige series, pretty flat rides.
@JulianFernandez
@JulianFernandez Жыл бұрын
makes me think of Roy. gotta love flats!
@BrassAttack1
@BrassAttack1 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha! At the intro, that's a picture of Tom Morello, not Joe Morello!
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh 4 ай бұрын
All part of the joke 😉
@peterwilborn3233
@peterwilborn3233 Жыл бұрын
The epitome of flat rides: 602 ( I’d pick the 18). Next, Masters Dark. I okay the Sabian 18” Royalty. Great combo of the 2.
@pibroch
@pibroch Жыл бұрын
I just picked a 602 18 thin! - to not overpower double bass, piano, or singer in quiet music, and quiet delicate music in general.
@ruffryder13
@ruffryder13 Ай бұрын
Gotta gets the weights up online too.
@howardk4016
@howardk4016 8 ай бұрын
Paiste Signature Trad or 2002!
@Monsterdrumma
@Monsterdrumma Жыл бұрын
The Paiste signature by far for me then the masters and third the Byzance jazz tradition brown looking one in case I got the name wrong.
@toneclassics
@toneclassics Жыл бұрын
Great Kick drum tone!!!
@LeakyJAZZ
@LeakyJAZZ Жыл бұрын
Very unfortunate that you missed out on the very best flat ride ever made, the Agop 20" or 22" Traditional Flat ride...
@idogillan
@idogillan 7 ай бұрын
Paiste for sure. I have the 602 formula and it is perfect
@llock3hart
@llock3hart 5 ай бұрын
❤ Meinl Traditional Flat Ride - 22"
@craigjohnchronicles2504
@craigjohnchronicles2504 Жыл бұрын
OH! That Meinl Byzance Jazz Sizzle...
@guyjeffrey3999
@guyjeffrey3999 Жыл бұрын
Paiste takes this one convincingly! Formula 602 22” thin would be my choice, it screams classic jazz or should I say, whispers.
@RA2Music
@RA2Music Жыл бұрын
Though not presented in this video, and not technically a true flat ride (there is a mini bell present), the Dream Dark Matter Flat Earth Rides are really interesting instruments and well worth checking out if your in the market.
@stevengood6434
@stevengood6434 Жыл бұрын
I would have to take the paiste 2002
@rhythmcaster2018
@rhythmcaster2018 Жыл бұрын
This time, Paiste is what I imagined a flat ride would sound.
@vladislavbarakin9599
@vladislavbarakin9599 Жыл бұрын
No Zildjan and Sabian?
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh Жыл бұрын
Didn't have any in stock.
@coreyroberts47
@coreyroberts47 Жыл бұрын
Agop Turk all day
@jonmurphy9424
@jonmurphy9424 Жыл бұрын
Charlie Watts has entered the chat
@justynhppdrummer98
@justynhppdrummer98 Жыл бұрын
PAISTE ❤❤❤❤❤
@stefanaleksic4113
@stefanaleksic4113 Жыл бұрын
Pasite cymbals have the best maybe the only sizile sound.
@kushking420
@kushking420 Жыл бұрын
Hard to choose for me tbh
@seppoinnanen5577
@seppoinnanen5577 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of zingy Paiste flat ride sound. Too me, it's way too one dimensional. That's why Istanbul xist ride would be my choice. Played alone that taco might sound awful, but the fast jazz pattern with drums sounded like nothing else, added with a dark and short china-like tahh... great 👍
@jamesdennett196
@jamesdennett196 Жыл бұрын
I think that's a real Marmite cymbal. Love it or hate it. No in between 😅
@kajem575
@kajem575 2 күн бұрын
R.I.P. ROY HAYNES.
@dustjacket1000
@dustjacket1000 Жыл бұрын
Paiste created the flat ride and Paiste wins the flat ride.
@christopherslater7365
@christopherslater7365 8 ай бұрын
Astounding Zildjian and/or Sabian are not represented in the flat ride market.
@rickjones507
@rickjones507 Жыл бұрын
they all sound a little flat to my ear
@carlupthegrove262
@carlupthegrove262 Жыл бұрын
LOL!!!!
@philipnestor5034
@philipnestor5034 Жыл бұрын
A rim shot and cymbal crash! Ba dum bah!
@ClayDoogun
@ClayDoogun Жыл бұрын
No Dream cymbals ??
@adamfrost3722
@adamfrost3722 Жыл бұрын
We considered them, but all their “flat rides” have bells.
@timcline2799
@timcline2799 11 ай бұрын
Tom Ash is an awesome drummer
@drumcenternh
@drumcenternh 11 ай бұрын
You should hear his puns.
@timcline2799
@timcline2799 11 ай бұрын
@@drumcenternh lol Tom. But, his samba solo on Pearl maple gum, high tuning some years back is one of my all time favorite solos ever. Magnificent drumming
@Neil-pv8pw
@Neil-pv8pw 13 күн бұрын
That’s Tom morello not Joe
@supmet2
@supmet2 2 ай бұрын
The Paiste collection wins hands down. The 2002 is my least favorite however.
@loucontino4804
@loucontino4804 Жыл бұрын
No other manufacturer touches Paiste.
@jamiedrake3324
@jamiedrake3324 Жыл бұрын
Um... that is a real choice to put a picture of Tom Morello instead of Joe Morello in the intro to the video? @drumcenternh
@nickhaldin8674
@nickhaldin8674 10 ай бұрын
That istanbul is awful, sounds like a trash can lid😂 great playing though, and great sounds for the most part🤙🏼
@mancuniancandidatem
@mancuniancandidatem 9 ай бұрын
Paiste know how to make a flat ride.
@martin.official
@martin.official Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't like flat rides.
@peterl2820
@peterl2820 Жыл бұрын
Paiste’s sounded best…!!
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