Missing one that's so big that most people forget the original existed. The Suicide Squad were originally a Golden Age team consisting of various military members and scientists, fought various WW2 experiments and monsters. It wasn't till nearly 30 years later that writer John Ostrander revamped the team as mostly consisting of press ganged supervillains, with Amanda Waller at the helm
@superheropow1 Жыл бұрын
Not quite superheroes though :)
@noahjones3955 Жыл бұрын
This video was the perfect one for blue beetle
@PaulADAigle Жыл бұрын
Jay Garrick was actually turned into the Flash by "Heavy Water". The fears of nuclear power was the reason for the "Heavy Water". I believe they reconned that as "Heavy Water" isn't quite as fantastical as they originally thought.
@Bluesit32 Жыл бұрын
They did retcon it, yes.
@panclark8975 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Alan Scott is my favorite GL. The silver age to modern age Corps is a great idea that works well. But Alan Scott follows many mythological tones that are something I enjoy more than the Sci-Fi elements of the Corps.
@44excalibur Жыл бұрын
The problem is that DC already had too many mythological superheroes that didn't really allow Alan Scott to stand out. Hal Jordan being a cosmic superhero is what set his Green Lantern apart.
@rbourne35 Жыл бұрын
Tim Drake was my favorite Robin but not sure I agree he outshines Grayson. I get he did more with his own solo series, but anyone outside of comics still only know Grayson. The go to version for TV an Movies. Even in comics DC hasn't known what to do with Drake for years.
@veillifted Жыл бұрын
Popular or not I will always love the original guardians of the Galaxy characters!
@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Жыл бұрын
Personally I loved the Jim Valentino's version of the GotG. It took the originals and revamped them, bringing them firmly into the 90's. Marvel even tried to plant some ties with GotG's Vance Astrovik being a member of the New Warriors under the codename 'Justice'. Too bad it didn't work out but I also loved DnA's Guardians and the movies are awesome anyway.
@veillifted Жыл бұрын
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 I just read those classic issues over again! Awesome stuff!
@mikelmacrichard4772 Жыл бұрын
@ 12:25 you mentioned the other X-Men country of origin but not Wolverine's who is Canadian.
@stevegallo8483 Жыл бұрын
You could have mentioned the Justice League as a replacement for the Justice Society (DC's superhero team from the 40s).
@veillifted Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct!
@kevinfoster7290 Жыл бұрын
Umm.....where did y'all go??
@buhe1 Жыл бұрын
I hear that Jay Garrick will be getting another series with his time lost daughter Boom and his last one was in the 40's. Joe Fixit has gotten pretty popular, even though readers prefer the Hulk if they had to choose, but still he comes back.
@44excalibur Жыл бұрын
I'd actually say that becoming the new Captain Marvel is what ultimately ruined Carol Danvers' character. She was great as Ms. Marvel, but the moment they had her take on the mantle of Captain Marvel, the Marvel writers couldn't help but maker her an insufferably pretentious and sanctimonious character, succumbing to the excesses of fourth wave neo-feminism, which was a betrayal of her classical feminist origins. Carol was at her best when she was more like She-Hulk and didn't take herself too seriously while still being heroic.
@dw7704 Жыл бұрын
Just pointing a couple of things out Not complaining about the list In Green Lantern Corps, the “p” is silent. And it is Sub-mare-inner, not Sub-ma-ree-ner
@Spootington Жыл бұрын
In the case of Corps, both the p and the s are silent. As regards Lamor, I'd more readily pronounce it sub marr inner as opposed to sub mare inner.
@dw7704 Жыл бұрын
@@Spootington yes the “s” is silent as well But for Submariner, I have to go with how I have heard Stan Lee pronounce it
@GoddessOfWhim2003 Жыл бұрын
6:34 umm Monica Rambeau was Captain Marvel WAY before Carol. she should have that spot
@Bluesit32 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. She has better powers than Carol too.
@GoddessOfWhim2003 Жыл бұрын
@Bluesit32 exactly. Monica had her own story, she wasn't dependent on Mar-Vell but she did want to honor him and when his son Genis-Vell came, she gave him the name and was still a kickass hero in her own right
@GoddessOfWhim2003 Жыл бұрын
i mean Monica led the Avengers for goodness sake
@bobbysworld2819956 ай бұрын
Monica didn't even outshine Carol and Carol had Avengers #200. The readers didn't care and stop pretending you did.
@sergioandrade8735 Жыл бұрын
Both versions of Green Lantern were inspired by non-comic sources. Alan Scott was inspired by Aladin and his Magic Lamp, it was considered to name Alan's secret identity, Alan Ladd however there was a Hollywood actor with that name. Hal Jordon's Green Lantern Corps was inspired by E..E. (Doc) Smith's Lensman series, a series of SF novels which featured aliens from multiple worlds given high tech devices called Lens by an elder alien race, note: great space opera but sexist and racist by modern standards.
@Shritistrang6 ай бұрын
Interesting, considering that there also was a magic ring in the original story of Aladin.
@edwinstovall3334 Жыл бұрын
I personally think that Wally West's evolution as the Flash outshines both that of his uncle Barry and of their mentor, Jay.
@turnerdcentury Жыл бұрын
I agree with the entire list with one exception, Captain Marvel. The original is better
@edaniels240 Жыл бұрын
Interesting they didn't mention Monica Rambeau & Phyla who became Capt. Marvel before Carol
@ProfArmitage218 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Mar-Vell died long before 2012, other people used his name in the interim, and Carol had several other names before becoming Captain Marvel. They make it sound like he died and she instantly became Captain Marvel.
@charlesminor6279 Жыл бұрын
Or Genis-Vell
@Brakdayton Жыл бұрын
@@ProfArmitage218it’s probably because apart from the name they have nothing in common. They’re not an update of the original.
@bobbysworld2819956 ай бұрын
Who actually cared about them?
@44excalibur Жыл бұрын
Let's not downplay Jim Hammond as the original Human Torch. Sure, Johnny Storm is the more well-known and popular Human Torch because of the Fantastic Four, but Jim Hammond was always the more powerful and physically stronger of the two. Hammond's control over fire and the amount of energy he could generate was always greater than Johnny's, and Hammond's superhumanly strong android body was far superior.
@Bluesit32 Жыл бұрын
And Jim Hammond burned Hitler alive.
@foldingend Жыл бұрын
I liked Jim better honestly
@amaelboisson5439 Жыл бұрын
I loved Carol Danvers when she was Miss Marvel, she was iconic, but her replacing the original Captain Marvel was a bad choice, and her character became hard to like
@Canrugger Жыл бұрын
It was a great decision…it took waaaaaaay too long for her to become Captain…she always deserved it
@44excalibur Жыл бұрын
The problem with Mar-Vell is that he just never achieved the kind of popularity that other Marvel cosmic superheroes had, like Nova, or Silver Surfer, or Adam Warlock. Sales for the Captain Marvel comic began to drop off by the early 1980s, so Marvel decided to cancel the comic and have Mar-Vell die from cancer, which ironically ended up becoming one of the greatest graphic novels in comic book history, The Death of Captain Marvel. Besides, when you have Adam Warlock, you don't really need Mar-Vell, to be honest.
@radicalross7700 Жыл бұрын
Starlin killed off Warlock years before he killed off Mar-Vell. But I suppose you can say Starlin showed he loved Warlock more by bringing him back and leaving Mar-Vell dead.
@44excalibur Жыл бұрын
@@radicalross7700 Starlin killed off Adam Warlock because different writers kept coming into Adam's storyline and putting a different spin on it. Since a lot of Warlock's story was inspired by the musical Jesus Christ Superstar, it was decided that Adam had to die saving the world. But his soul was alive and well in Soul World, so there was always the possibility of his return. Mar-Vell was killed off because his comic title wasn't selling, so they just decided to have him die in a way that hit the readers in a way that was very real and human, by having him die of cancer.
@Brakdayton Жыл бұрын
@@44excaliburnone of the characters you mentioned could ever sustain a successful ongoing series.
@tonythornhill9156 Жыл бұрын
Ghost Rider got left off the list. There was a western themed Ghost Rider before Johnny Blaze got the name.
@dzd__2216 Жыл бұрын
Saying that Carol Danvers is “popular” is crazy, specially after Civil War II
@Legacyartist Жыл бұрын
Agreed, yeah when you compare her to the original Captain Marvel she's more "popular". However Rogue was the one who originally replaced Carol Danvers and is still vastly more popular. Even Kamala Khan Carol's second replacement probably has a bigger fan base then Carol.
@GoddessOfWhim2003 Жыл бұрын
the most famous thing about Carol's superhero career is losing her powers to Rogue
@SensoriaMaRia Жыл бұрын
I will always prefer the first female Captain Marvel: Monica Rambeau. Carol Danvers is such an ahole.
@MexikanPanda Жыл бұрын
Carol Sucks… #monicabestcpt.marvel.
@JeremiahEcks777 Жыл бұрын
Carol is only 'popular' to wokeshippers who only know her from the movie. Her comics keep getting cancelled. I don't think comics fans in general think she's all that when she's just a generic Mar-Vell clone. If current Carol Blandvers is your favourite version though, more power to you, but I'd have a read of Busiek's take as a compare...
@RicardoMorenoAlmeida Жыл бұрын
You make it sound like Mar-vell dies and then, almost immediately, Carol took up the mantle. He died in 1982 and she became Captain Marvel in 2012, a full 30 years later. :/
@Sunprism Жыл бұрын
And way before she was Captain Marvel, that title was held by one Monica Rambeau....back when she was the first person of color And the first woman to lead the Avengers
@radicalross7700 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the Wasp/Janet Van Dyne was the first woman to lead the Avengers. Monica Rambeau succeeded her.
@Sunprism Жыл бұрын
always forget her, thanks@@radicalross7700
@martinrivera4493 Жыл бұрын
Sorry MsMarvel (both of them) are not even close to being better than The OG Capt. Marvel
@michaelwallace3105 Жыл бұрын
Many of these examples of 'outshining' are more about the relative popularity of silver age comics to golden age comics overall. In most of these cases, I prefer the original character.
@CidYoshi Жыл бұрын
Carol Danvers was better left as Ms Marvel.
@alonvertz Жыл бұрын
You forgot the Sandman!!
@beartygerevillaugh9418 Жыл бұрын
😂Well you had me until you went on to Carol Danvers…that one’s a terrible take. 😂
@charlesminor6279 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. So many other characters held the name before her and are more memorable as that character and likeable the Carol is
@johnbyrne3402 Жыл бұрын
When they made Danvers into Captain Marvel they made her unlikeable.
@veillifted Жыл бұрын
Yes! I was okay with Ms. marvel or warbird!
@john1701q Жыл бұрын
Danvers has had her book rebooted over and over. They are trying to force her to be popular. She is NOT popular.
@jimmurlevans5487 Жыл бұрын
No, Marvel wants to keep the name Captain Marvel.
@Bluesit32 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmurlevans5487 They could give it back to Monica Rambeau in that case.
@mustafahameed9252 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmurlevans5487Howʻs about Shazam?
@jimmurlevans5487 Жыл бұрын
@mustafahameed9252 That is who they are keeping it from. The law states that If my if Marvel does not use the name 2 years in a row. The captain marvel name goes back to dc
@56postoffice Жыл бұрын
@jimmurlevans5487 Wow, never knew that.
@cherylturner1352 Жыл бұрын
Great Vid 👍
@nicolasgalantini6458 Жыл бұрын
For a second part of this video you could include the vision, the original was an alien that's barely known, on the other hand and thanks to the marvel movies, everyone knows the vision 2.
@sunniedunbar6889 Жыл бұрын
Wally West >Barry Allen and Carol Danvers just makes me want Mar-Vell back. The best thing she did was lose her powers to Rogue.
@coreymasoy7034 Жыл бұрын
Great amazing episode ❗🔥💯⚡👍
@richardplantier1955 Жыл бұрын
I liked the original guardians better, read them when I was a kid.
@GabePuratekuta Жыл бұрын
You forgot Monica Rambeau.
@Legacyartist Жыл бұрын
She didn't replace any one though she is pretty much her own person.
@GoddessOfWhim2003 Жыл бұрын
i said the same thing. she was the second Captain Marvel decades before Carol
@blacksmoke629211 ай бұрын
@@Legacyartist She didn't replace anyone in power set but she was the second Captain Marvel.
@44excalibur Жыл бұрын
Let's not give James Gunn too much credit. To say that Gunn based his Guardians of the Galaxy move on the 2008 version is ignoring the fact that Gunn took a very sloppy and juvenile approach to the material. If you do your research you'll see that the modern Guardians of the Galaxy are actually the remnants of Warlock and the Infinity Watch from the 1990s, which consisted of Adam Warlock, Gamora, Drax, Moondragon, and Pip the Troll. That comic title, which was created in the aftermath of the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, was unsuccessful, as was the attempt to revive the original 31st century Guardians of the Galaxy title in the late 1990s, so Marvel decided to create a new Guardians team out of what was left of Warlock's group. But Gunn foolishly left Adam Warlock out of his films, instead focusing on Star Lord, and cutting Adam Warlock completely out of the entire Thanos/Infinity War storyline, in spite of the fact that Warlock is the one who defeated Thanos and not including Warlock in the Thanos storyline is like not including Superman in the Darkseid/Apokolips storyline.
@JE-zc5jx Жыл бұрын
you guys haven’t posted in forever!! when cam we expect new videos?
@forestgrumpy1192 ай бұрын
No Blue Beetle is criminal
@chadmoore4298 Жыл бұрын
What culture, what happened to your channel¿ You went from 4 videos a week to 1 video a month, maybe... this makes me sad because you were legitimately a good channel 😪
@oliverl.5834 Жыл бұрын
The Hulk outshining himself is a bit of a cop-out, isn't it? Could've gone with Xemnu instead. Sure, he isn't a hero and hasn't had that many apperances, but he was originally called the Hulk.
@garyhewhowalklikeagodgreen3514 Жыл бұрын
Captain Marvel the man is #1
@nickparenti8761 Жыл бұрын
No mention of Rick Jones, Capt. Marvel?
@cynthiaspencer2222 Жыл бұрын
Cindy's Dad here and I just found this video. I have to ask why no mention of Aarkus the original Vision and his replacement? Kinda curious if I'm the only one who remembers him?
@ChrisConnolly-Mr.C-Dives-In Жыл бұрын
The original character from the 40s was re-worked into the 60s android character.
@SHADOWZEROKYO Жыл бұрын
I had to thumbs down this cause mar-vel is way better than carol danvers
@AG-od3dc Жыл бұрын
John Stewart is the best Green Lantern, in my opinion.
@GabePuratekuta Жыл бұрын
The backup? Agreed.
@Bluesit32 Жыл бұрын
I prefer Kyle. The guy is an artist, meaning his creations are insanely detailed and imaginative.
@Legacyartist Жыл бұрын
Definitely though I do have DCAU bias.
@clarenceriley60507 ай бұрын
mine to funny thing is I actually thought he was the first Lantern as him in the Justice League cartoons was my introduction to the green Lantern, then was like who are these other guys and why aren't they as cool as John
@AG-od3dc7 ай бұрын
@@clarenceriley6050 Bro, same!
@Canrugger Жыл бұрын
Was Guardians popular before the movie though?
@charlesminor6279 Жыл бұрын
They were more popular then there original team so from a d list team to a b list team.
@clarenceriley60507 ай бұрын
huh always thought Barbra was the first batgirl
@marcprimo1471 Жыл бұрын
So your forgetting about Monica second marvel Captain marvel!
@kaljaxa5365 Жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed both versions of each that you listed. In what I'm sure will alienate from most others and we will have to agree to disagree, there are some you listed that I prefer the original. We agree on the Teen Titans we agree on Guardians of the Galaxy I prefer the original Batwoman/Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) We agree on green Hulk though I did enjoy the first 6 issues. Tim Drake...yeah, don't even get me started on the whole Robin thing in its entirety. Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel. I prefer the original Ms Marvel and Captain Marvel. Anything after that I felt was a cash grab. While I did like Hal Jordon as Green Lantern I much prefer the original, Alan Scott. Human Torch? Loved the FF back in the day but the original Human Torch is my fav of the two. Jay Garrick if my fav as the Flash. X-men -- oh boy, I loved the Giant Sized X-Men #1 that brought us the new version of the group but I still liked the original almost as much. I guess, in general, I prefer golden age characters.
@gargnob Жыл бұрын
I still prefer the ORIGINAL Captain Marvel: Billy Batson. And, not surprisingly, I prefer the ORIGINAL Captain Marvel movie that came out in 1941. I feel so old when kids these days don't know the classics...
@The_Phantasm Жыл бұрын
There's also Wally West as the Flash who was an improvement over Barry Allen.
@justme-ti1rh Жыл бұрын
Lol that's funny.
@The_Phantasm Жыл бұрын
@@justme-ti1rh Lol that's reality.
@richie3208 Жыл бұрын
Easily better than Barry to be fair 👌
@gra9 Жыл бұрын
@@justme-ti1rh DC literally gave Barry Wallys personality when they brought him back, Wally clears as a character.
@brandonscott5544 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT
@bobbywoodart5269 Жыл бұрын
Spiderman came before the Fantastic Four
@poppaspank Жыл бұрын
I believe in the '30s, '40s and '50 there were characters called Spiderman, Silver Spider, The Spider, etc. In terms of the Marvel characters, The Fantastic Four who debuted in November 1961 did pre-date The Amazing Spider-Man's debut in Amazing Fantasy #15, August 1962. However, the made for TV Spider-Man movies from 1977-78 were before the unreleased Roger Corman Fantastic Four movie from 1994,
@KajiRider1997 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but Carol hasn't outshone Mar-vell by a longshot. She hasn't even outshone Genis-vell let alone Monica in the title. Even Then Billy Batson is Captain Marvel
@charlesminor6279 Жыл бұрын
You left out Phyla-Vell as well
@KajiRider1997 Жыл бұрын
I know she existed but I temporarely stopped reading comics around the time she debuted. Love her design though@@charlesminor6279
@killingragethrowback Жыл бұрын
No mention how they used Kathy Kane to tell stories about LGBT+ when she was created to make sure Batman and Robin were not mistaken for gay due to the actions of a scumbag bigot masquerading as a wise man? And the Flash actually did this more than once. Well maybe not. Wally wasn't Barry, but he did alright. That's why it felt like a step back instead of forward when they brought Barry back. Honestly, he HAD his perfect awesome death. He didn't need to come back.
@dramaturge231 Жыл бұрын
Kyle Rayner is the most artistic Green Lantern and my favorite. The best, in my opinion.
@Bluesit32 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Kyle's imagination has incredible detail. One of my favorite panels with him was in the Marvel vs DC series where he shows up to battle riding a space craft of some kind with huge mounted guns on it. If it wasn't glowing green, you'd never know he used his ring to make them.
@alastorcorvus Жыл бұрын
Weeb lantern is best lantern
@dramaturge231 Жыл бұрын
Who’s that?
@johncole015 Жыл бұрын
After Marvel rebooted Spider-Man with that ludicrous one more day/brand new day story I quit following the character.
@FoxyAlphaRogerTango Жыл бұрын
I like Ted Kord, but Jaime Reyes' Blue Beetle should be on this list. Same with Zatanna over Zatarra. Sandman (Neil Gaiman vs Golden Age)
@lewismize4581 Жыл бұрын
This list feels like it is saying “Silver Age is so much cooler than the Golden Age”
@tyrone1544 Жыл бұрын
Ok jerk off.
@paulcarr5918 Жыл бұрын
While the OG Guardians from the 1960's was not that exciting, I personally like the 1990-1994 run best. Vance Astro, Yondu, Charlie 27, Martinex, Nikki, Starhawk/Aleta. Drax showed up as his character was originally intended to be, as opposed to what we see now. We got the Spirit of vengeance ( Ghost Rider ) and Hollywood (Wonder Man), Silver Surfer, and Krugarr, popping in. We got a version of Yellowjacket, Talon, and Firelord joining at points. For me that was much more fun and interesting than the later group that got moved into the MCU.
@peterrealar2.067 Жыл бұрын
You're delusional thinking Carol is an improvement on anything.
@masterrserch397111 ай бұрын
8:27 "corpse"....... smh...🙍
@rustydaboyrobot Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of your take. Of course, Hal Jordan as Green Lantern is so iconic, no one remembers the previous iteration. And Capt Mar-Vel is 1,000 times better than the toxic feminist they have pretending to be a heroine. The story is better, has depth, and even adding Ms. Marvel felt genuine.. or mostly so. Of course, a feminist can't get her powers from a male.. even if he's alien. 😄
@Gettinsketchyonbourbon Жыл бұрын
Damien Wayne should be the only Robin. The other ones just seem out of place. A billionaire taking on an orphan and giving them all of his secrets…
@pauldesigncomics2625 Жыл бұрын
Monica Rambeau was better Captain Marvel than Carol Danvers
@Martynde Жыл бұрын
Does Image Comics not exist in the WhatCulture Universe? It does on my world.
@GabePuratekuta Жыл бұрын
They rarely mention anything from a publisher that isn't Marvel or DC. It's why I sub to Casually Comics.
@bdpickett Жыл бұрын
How many legacy characters exist in Image's roster?
@MatthewTyreeKS Жыл бұрын
@@GabePuratekutaSame for me.
@JeffMaple-j8f3 ай бұрын
A lot of daddy issues in the new teen titans
@martinrivera4493 Жыл бұрын
duh....BOTH/ALL Batgirls were silver Age....Get it RIGHT!
@JeremiahEcks777 Жыл бұрын
I'd agree that Tim Drake was the better Robin than his predecessors but DC have told us all that Tim never became Robin thanks to the New 52. He was Red Robin only. Yeah DC, let's ruin the immensely popular character because he was made in the 90's. Sigh. (See also Helena Bertinelli Huntress) As an aside, green Hulk IS Grey Hulk. Sigh.
@ThatJohnKillion1970 Жыл бұрын
You had me and then you lost me immediately.
@anthonybeaudry1547 Жыл бұрын
Jon Stewart is the best, both hands up!
@t.jefferson6365 Жыл бұрын
Uh oh, did this channel fall off? Harsh.
@americanhero1234 Жыл бұрын
Clearly you dont comics.....callings Carol Denvers popular 😂😂😂
@garyhewhowalklikeagodgreen3514 Жыл бұрын
Marvel first super hero
@anthonycurreri3792 Жыл бұрын
Storm isn't really African, she was born in Harlem.
@VetalIsVetal Жыл бұрын
Nobody can replace "THE NIGHT,THE VENGENCE,THE BATMAN"
@martinrivera4493 Жыл бұрын
Corps is NOT pronounced corpse...it's pronounced CORE. You sound English/Aussie?, but you can't pronounce it
@rudiscarrasco3320 Жыл бұрын
The X-Men came from different countries, such as Storm from Africa…..
@Bluesit32 Жыл бұрын
It's sad that it took me a moment to realize what point you were getting at. Where was she from? I know she spent a good deal of time in Cairo...and that's where she stole Xavier's wallet when she was a child...but I think she was in Kenya when Xavier recruited her.
@rudiscarrasco3320 Жыл бұрын
@@Bluesit32 she’s from the States but her dad was from Kenya and that’s why she was in the continent.
@radicalross7700 Жыл бұрын
Actually, Storm's father was an American journalist who, if memory serves, met Storm's Kenyan mother while traveling/working in Africa. She came with him to the US, where Ororo/Storm was born. When she was six years old, she was with her parents in Cairo when they were killed.
@bobbysworld2819956 ай бұрын
Welp, the incels found this.
@ctw701 Жыл бұрын
Super lame…the original Guardians of the Galaxy is WAY better than that Starlord nonsense
@tyrone1544 Жыл бұрын
In your opinion ya freaking hommo. Get a life douche bag.
@jopiaspieder1184 Жыл бұрын
Kyle Rayner is the best Green Lantern and Wally West is the best Flash
@dananderson8906 Жыл бұрын
Wally West is by far the best Flash
@JE-zc5jx Жыл бұрын
you guys haven’t posted in forever!! when cam we expect new videos?