#10 HOW TO GET BETTER AT SURFING AND HOW TO DO IT FASTER

[@jammbo]

Interview Jack & Zoard!! Would love to hear their perspective on what it's like to follow you guys around 24/7. Their approach to filming/editing content, and some comments on the highs/lows of the working-friendship/relationship/partnership with you guys.

[@KapoorAri]

Agreed it would be super cool to get an insight into filmers lives and their opinions on shit + how they got into it

[@wcc1212]

@@KapoorAri ---agree--it would be very insightful.

[@tommathews3964]

Excellent idea! Love to get their "behind the lens" perspective!

[@hunterdavis3003]

Yes!!!

[@ethanamata3670]

Agreed

[@markohrtman7897]

He says, ‘free range of the subconscious where your instinct has the upmost freedom.’ Like that. Nailed it. Yup.

[@m00ftak]

Would love to see Makua come on. Bet he's got a lot of good stories to share

[@chrisrobinson6975]

Such a cool dude too. I love when he does the WSL commentary

[@timeli6021]

Like when Makua threw a hissyfit on MTV in 2002 on I wanna be a pro surfer reality show. People don't forget Makua lolol. Same one where Sunny García knocked a 17 yr old kid out on the beach for looking at his wife.

[@nottherealChickenJoe]

@@timeli6021 These times were gnarly. You can probably find some mad story ike this about every singe pro surfer back then...

[@feelinghealingfrequences7179]

Makua seems like a gangsta thug and talks like one too imagine his stories of fighting surfers in the line up and back on the beach

[@12nate13]

@@timeli6021damn sounds like you don’t want to see him on an episode 😂😂😂😂

[@nayatimoodfilms3783]

This is the best episode so far. The conversation is so engaging it makes me feel like I’m actually there with you guys.

[@charlietaylor799]

agreed. best one yet

[@tommathews3964]

Nate and that "Epoxy" shit had me rolling! John says "it's your board" and Nate finally quits beating his head against the wall! I just really enjoy the frank, open "conversations" you guys have. It's like you're just sitting around shooting the shit and letting us sit in. Totally natural! I'd love to see Luke or any of the North Shore lifeguards and hear some of their perspectives.

[@samkirchner8133]

Just swim to train paddleing muscles!!!!!Use a boogie board in the pool to get even closer to the paddling position.

[@J_CostaPT]

This podcast is just so "light" to listen. Like the way you guys talk about and explain stuff is just so natural. It's informative and really fun. keep on going dudes! if you guys ever run out of topics ( which i doubt) would really appreciate a : top 10 world surf hidden gem spots or where to surf in hawaii for each level of ability, good alternatives to pipeline to get the skill to surf it ( like your progression when you were kids throught all the spot steps to get to pipeline and identify them so tourists can maybe do that instead of crowding pipe). thank you for the content , hyped for the EP. 11 !

[@williamdrose9350]

Really agree it's meditative to watch.

[@rzadigi]

Pretty sure they don’t want their local spots and the secret spots any more crowded 😂😂put your time in and pay your dues before stepping up to heavy spots.

[@danbrown4205]

I surfed for many, many years in the cold water of Northern California. Im now in my late 60s and now both knees, one hip, one shoulder, and some degenerated discs in my back. Surfing definitely takes a toll on one’s body (I’m sure the rock/ice climbing, skiing, and mountain biking contributed as well). With that said, I wouldn’t change a thing! (Pro tip: have an orthopedic surgeon in the family)

[@vertical8infinity]

Wish me luck. I’m a 46 yo kook in Norcal and just started surfing a couple years ago. My dream and goal is pipeline. Hopefully get there in my 50’s

[@danbrown4205]

@@vertical8infinity You'll do great! Where in NorCal are you surfing? I grew up in Pacifica (went to Terra Nova). Stay with it, it's a great sport to get into :)

[@bakerbishop420]

19:49 this is gold. John learning how to teach you what comes natural to him. So cool.

[@tujaded]

Mason Ho as guest - Yes! & CoCo & of course Michael Ho; all wildly talented & fun! I agree on Makua as a guest and add Nathan Fletcher (& Herbie Fletcher); Kai Lenny; MOANA Jones Wong; Paige Alms; Mark Healy; Luke Shepardson; Billy Kemper; PLEASE Dave Wassell... is that too greedy?! Love both of your surfing & attitude of appreciation & pushing yourselves & each other.

[@wcc1212]

That's a good list. I think Dave is still a NSLG too. He caught that epic wave in the movie White Rhino. Def a underground big wave guy.

[@tujaded]

Yeah, he was in White Rhino. And he's definitely one to talk story; and he's hilarious! I should have included Keala Kennelly. Kalani Chapman (& Owl Chapman). What do Nate & Koa think about the WSL CT Shaper's Challenge?

[@mikeuptegrove]

Nate’s best videos are the ones where he gives tips. There was one about wipeouts i recall, something like trying to spot light through the foam, that I thought was great. I wish you guys could do more of those, and have examples of clips that give a better visual. I was trying to take in what you’re saying here, but the only take away is square shoulders on a steep drop, press into front foot harder. I was one of the YT people urging Nate to not go as heavy working out. It has been my experience that if you overdo the weights, you get injured. At 41, I workout more like Laird, for longevity, than I do to deadlift for strength. Deadlifts have taken out more discs in more people than they’re worth doing. There’s just certain lifts that aren’t worth it. Plus, you don’t necessarily need heavy heavy weight to get time under tension. You can pretend 100lbs is 1000lbs. But, training to avoid injury is all about proprioceptive exercise.Do all the stabilization and mobility training no one else does. Then deadlift every once in awhile. And you’re right Nate, shoulder mobility is everything for a surfer. I’m 37 weeks into surfing through a rotator issue while doing everything possible short of surgery to keep pain at bay. I let my shoulder get tight. Now I’m paying the price.

[@austinpepin5737]

Love the Robin Hood idea! Great episode boys🤙

[@robertjuterbock1099]

Hahahaha this shits funny. I love the investment convos. Yahhh boys gettin rich!

[@bonez_westoz]

Another Epic episode my brothers , looking foward to another guest , Koa's dad Eddie would be Gnarly , Makua , Tamayo Perry, maybe even the water patrol Gnarly dudes , keep up the great work lads , all the best From Margaret River 🤙🌊💚

[@patricknoveski6409]

Yeah boys U tube is better than t. V. Got to surf good waves today not far from home. Thanks to u guys getting me fired up. At 69 Im still in da game from watching Nate & Koa. My identity is a surfer. It has been for 50 yrs. Still stoked. Thanks boyz . . .

[@Cabrinhakite]

The Gym stuff off the water was great Nate Koa 🤙🤩🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Thekaostheory1]

Please, never stop sharing your knowledge guys!! superfan of both of you!! Cheers from Spain!!

[@kevingyurecz]

Same here dude. There both awesome surfers and podcasters

[@TheAlohabrudda]

Hilarious. Laughing at the investment shenanigans 😂. You guys are naturally funny, great episode.

[@samhat2510]

Love how you guys relate to and understand the average surfer like myself. For you it’s making a barrel but for me it’s just popping up and catching a decent line. Nothing like that high.

[@rickybecklund2488]

Awesome...number 10 already. Koa That sunscreen line keep it simple easy and awesome , call it KOA then In your this is livin font it stands for keep on applying 😉

[@escalationclaws8941]

Pushups and pullups perfectly replicates paddling. If you can do 70 full range pushups in a row, and 20 full range pullups you will be able to paddle your ass off regardless if you surf regularly. I know because i surf 3-4 times a year and ive always got more paddle power than anyone in the line up.

[@diegosellanes9147]

I'm a beginner surfer, and I get frustrated all of the time, like 60% of sessions, some sessions are amazing (when I see progress, then I get happy), but this is not the normal scenario. This video is probably one of the best in terms of mental strength I've seen from Nathan and Koa, I have been following these guys for a long time now, and seeing how frustrated Nathan gets, and how he deals with it and gets over it is so inspirational. I love your videos guys, keep it up! I am sure many amateur surfers like myself feel so grateful for your content. This video is just pure gold.

[@lau-guerreiro]

Great episode. I'd like to hear you interview Eli.

[@saudigold50]

Yes! Eli is, hands down, an impressive young man, in a myriad of ways.

[@CallyCmart]

Keep rockin the Podcast and your indie channels You both are sooooo fun, awesome and informative. Keep it going!!!

[@deanquady9787]

I almost fell out of my seat laughing, when you described your dad tired on the surfboard. Great job on the Pod, keep it up.

[@bbwvelvet]

Love you guys! Id love to see Koa's dad and Nate's mom on or whomever taught y'all to surf and then have clips cut in or you as kids learning, then teens etc I think that would be cool.

[@OrionsMako]

I feel like you guys are such an outlet for those of us who once were hardcore surfers and can't be there anymore. I haven't surfed in 9 years now and, it hurts bad. May you guys surf all your days.

[@adamloughrey3610]

Quality Humans and a great conversation. Thanks Koa and Nathan!

[@Chimichurrii]

Epic 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💪🏽💪🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽👏🏽👏🏽😀😀😀

[@wolfofwaimea]

Yeeew! Portfolio updates 😂. LFG!🚀🚀🚀

[@auntyvic]

I used to get all the mags as a kid and at the time I loved them but I prefer how things are now with KZbin. Like you guys mentioned it’s kinda all out on the table whereas before I think it was too easy to idolize a**holes (hence, don’t meet your heroes). I also think that the reason people love even watching “bad” surfers is because there are so many people who love surfing so much who are landlocked or obligated to a job for one reason or another and believe it or not seeing any kind of surfing was better than nothing. Still love y’all and the podcast v much!! Just offering a different perspective.

[@phillipgrandy3701]

Absolutely love the pod, so amazing youre sharing all this information and insights of yours! 🙏

[@jimmyskinnie]

You guys should interview jack, be nice to hear his side of filming and whatnot ....Thanx, awsome podcast! Your brother too Koa!

[@kairandbellinger1973]

Have a Desert Surf FAN. Someone who loves surfing and watched you from the beginning. Someone who can speak from our point of view.

[@LiamODell-n8c]

You guys are awesome, learn so much from just listening!

[@malakaipoppyadventures4579]

You lads honestly saved my life I’m not going to go into it cause it’s too deep but I was ready & willing & my phone notification cmon & it was your podcast with John & I put the shit down watched the podcast then got up flushed that shit down the toilet went surfing & everything is getting better but thank you 🙏🏻 legends you will never know what you did for me thank you 🙏🏻 from me & my family ✊🏻💯🤙🏻⚡️ 🇦🇺

[@philipwhicker8072]

hope your doing well

[@malakaipoppyadventures4579]

@@philipwhicker8072 thank you 😊 much better back surfing everyday 🤙🏻momentarily lapse ! Never have thought about it before & hopefully will never think about it again ✊🏻💯🤙🏻 the ocean 🌊 has been my therapist I’d be lost without it ✊🏻💯🤙🏻 but thank you 🙏🏻 just a simple phrase like hope your doing well ! Can be life saving so thank you 💯✊🏻🤙🏻

[@staceymalaniff7801]

Serious respect, you got this.

[@petersterling5334]

Great Work you Guys! So Nice to see the New Mics. The Sound is So good now. I saw an early episode when you just using the Camera Microphones. We appreciate you Guys!

[@C.Hawkshaw]

This is incredibly helpful for me. For some reason l think “Nate wants to do airs, a week later he’s doing airs.” Same with investing and epoxies, and Koas start in surfing. I want to be great at something in 2 months. So encouraging to be reminded that mastering anything takes practice.

[@dottie3755]

started learning to surf at 17-18 and i’m determined to become a sponsored free surfer! podcasts like these just have so much knowledge engrained within and it’s a joy to listen and learn!

[@rzadigi]

Good luck bro! Pretty sure no one ever gets sponsored when they start that late. You could be the first!

[@chettjr1140]

@@rzadigilol your tripping brah anything possible free surf sponsorship are for other reason that competitive surfers will get sponsors young

[@surfingbilly9654]

love the stock investing idea, super fun to talk about.

[@RoyceJakob]

Riot Blockchain BOYZ haha. The play that started it all. 🌊🌊🥇

[@AnabelleLinkous]

Oh Yay Stoked For You Guys🤙🤙🤙It's A Sick Podcast💦🌊💨SoFunSeeing All The Content OnYour ViewsOf The Surf World💯👍👍👍OMyG Your 🌊Pipe Yiiikes SheIsInsane😁😁😁

[@surfininmy40s]

Took me 7 years. Started at age 40. I’m now only a yellow belt in surfing but starting to understand what I want to do out there. I’ve always surfed twice a week though. I don’t miss.

[@jayweiable]

Starting at age 43 now. So you’re saying I’ll get to yellow belt at 50…

[@surfininmy40s]

@@jayweiable you will do better than me I’m sure. 🤙🏾.

[@josephwest7006]

As a long term subscriber to most of your platforms I’ll tell u as a fan what gets me psyched is your engagement with us… surfing content is not blown up to the point of Hollywood so as a fan I’m loving it it’s more of a community for now ….

[@TruthIsNot4Sale]

Fabulous episode 10 I’m first gonna enjoy this👏👏👏

[@thenoahyy]

Been following both of you for a while but just started surfing (moved to Costa Rica for 10 months). This past week I finally started to catch unbroken waves 😂 and it was the best feeling ever. Super small waves but still felt great, just smiling out in the ocean. And to be honest, at this point there’s no such thing as a bad session for me. I’ve always wanted to surf so even just eating shit over and over is enjoyable. Love the podcast and your channels.

[@Jak3stetter]

Huge fan of both of you guys and the new podcast. Aloha from San Clemente.

[@larryfelix]

😂 Koa love the sticker on your phone. 😉that’s livin.

[@why_t_roy]

Love the pod and poly boards all the way. Margaret River, West Oz 👍🏽

[@CodyBunker]

What's cool to see. I've been subbed to your KZbin channels when you only had a few thousand subs. Now not only have you become even better surfers your ability to communicate all the things you do through your channels has gone through the roof. It's inspiring

[@robpagnotta5689]

Epic....and getting better every episode! Great podcast!

[@connierichards2875]

Started following Nate because of John and now Koa is making me a fan ….. such a real chat - keep it up🇨🇦💖🇨🇦

[@aileenmartucci422]

Thanks for the new mics. So relaxing. None surfer who likes the science of sports and ocean lover. Thank you!

[@seblivefloormanager]

Ep 10 of the World's Greatest Understated Podcast. The ONLY podcast I watch/listen to 😂 Thanks again gents for making my cold UK winter Friday mornings so sunny and full of warmth. Great chats as always. Mahalo 🙌🙏✨️🤙

[@Growninfaith]

Thanks for the good motivation to keep pushing through even when you want to give up and give in.

[@alexmuniz3858]

Straight up this is the best pod

[@johnhaden]

Bro… it’s amazing you guys talking investing good for you! Can you imagine if the pros from the 80’s had done this? 😮

[@thiagogeff]

Keep simple, is the best part of the podcast.

[@aidanloeser4890]

Bring Mahina on! Ivan! Makua! Been watching both of your channels for a long long time. Thanks for years of surfing and content and ridiculousness. Now you're helping me get through med school away from the ocean.

[@martincorbeel8154]

Digging the content guys keep it up!!

[@FoilFroth6284]

Another great clip you guys. Thanks heaps...

[@jdelorenzojr001]

Great freaking podcast episode..you guys hit the next level.

[@gabrielk4120]

10 minutes non-stop freestyle swimming for warm up then 8x25m serious sprints 30 sec intervals. Build your swimming up to this trainnig 3-4 times a week plus a bit of chest and back swimming (5 mins each) and within some time you'll have great paddling and much easier and earlier drops.

[@jeffasbury43]

Great podcast you boys rock

[@austinadams1732]

Nathan, thank you for talking about your struggles with learning airs! I have been struggling with learning to surf for a while now I surfed yesterday and I was struggling with my bottom turns. I've been getting so discouraged lately, so hearing you talk about how frustrating it is for you is inspiring. I cant wait to get back in the water today and keep grinding. Love the podcast guys, cant wait till you guys hit 100k subs!

[@haroldoftherocks1205]

Love the market talk. You guys are awesome.

[@tedded1]

Love to see you interview Nate’s mom!

[@MensGroup]

Thanks for sharing guys. I've been trying to improve my janky takeoff which I learned 10 years ago. I'm at 6 months and was feeling defeated. Was nice to hear that airs took Nate 9 mos.

[@Sam-gj2ec]

Great convo! Small account challenge I'm in

[@Rodeo353]

Equine sports are very similar because you have to be fully present in what you are doing! If you aren’t fully focused that’s when you see injuries because you are working with a 1200lb animals with a mind of its own! Great episode guys! !

[@dubhutx]

Nice pod episode guys. Can see the progress and Nate’s learning the mic volume distance too! 🤙🏻 keep ‘‘em coming along with the vlogs. Shout out from Bali. Be cool to set up an intro clip too!! If you need OG music hit me up 🎶

[@1jonege9]

I have been watching both of your individual KZbin channels for at least three years, and as much as I love the surfing, I really like seeing you guys just hanging out talking, too. So, I am really happy you guys have started this podcast! Oh, and I also really got a kick out of the “I ❤ASS” sticker on Koa’s phone! Pretty funny having that sit there prominently the entire 51+ minutes! 😆

[@JQualitymusic]

Awesome topics! Keep showing visual content of what you’re talking about, love it!

[@happygen001]

Guys you are the Best! Suggestion: if you could work out the audio it'd be great to broadcast outside under hawaiian palm trees... The vibe would be awesome!

[@ryanf1560]

you guys are real ones, super cool to see you guys be such solid, relatable individuals, outside of being some of the best surfers alive...i came away from this feeling encouraged and like a better person for getting to know you guys better, just like any other cool person you come across in life that you are lucky enough to be friends with. cheers fellas from a fellow young guy, born and raised on the big island, living and learning to surf in sf, ca

[@ryanf1560]

also, some guest recommendations, shane dorian, ian crane, michael ho

[@MrLeeson660]

Absolutely love this stuff. Took so much from this pod

[@foufdog]

Awesome to listen to boys, nice little vibe you have going🤙 and what you said is spot on some of us don’t always get the opportunity to travel to such exotic places and Hawaii is a pipe dream for me being in little old England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇬🇧 hopefully one day I’ll make it over to your shores, but at least for now I get to see it throughout your eyes and vids 🙏

[@____________4510]

Be dope to see Mason on here, dudes the definition of psych.

[@BladesofHoney.]

Solid on the new mics boys!

[@dylannewlands6122]

You guys are the best. Would love to see more workouts for surfing stuff and definitely love the insights into late takeoffs etc.

[@jarrettaguiar5112]

Keep it going boys. I love the insider scoops of the pro surf world and how it’s so funny at times. All the conversations are great, you guys are great, shows great.

[@andreahiga]

It’s amazing how naturally engaging your content is. At first I was like there can be nothing I can relate to about what you’re talking cause you guys are pro surfers whereas I’m a really bad surfer (but I love to surf, more than anything I’ve done before). Listening to Koa say how rewarding is when you accomplish something you have envisioned for so long, even the smallest progress was like: Yeah, that’s exactly how it feels, and there’s no feeling like it. I’m glad I found you, this podcast is awesome!!

[@Gregorrable]

Gents, loving your insights! Keep yer lit! PS tell Koas makeup artist to take it easy on the the eyebrow fill, he’s starting look look a like a cartoon

[@em_punkt9113]

Love to hear you guys talking about the paradox of surfing!! Being so open, reflective & transparent of what you feel in the water, all the insights really show why are so stoked about doing this sport. Psyched about the meditation-in-the-water-thing - same here!! Please keep on doing this guys! Best episode ever

[@jywave1969]

Thanks for sharing your life's and passion. More power to you for making a living at it. my passion took me a different path and living as a chef. Rather be surfing ha!!

[@skinrat81374]

Watching surf content, and stuff like this, is great because it’s entertainment for guys who just can’t enough surf. Sure beats TV. And so it’s both the lifestyle/personality aspect and the surf itself that draws me to it. Style matters more than skill, imo, and entertainment value trumps all 🤙

[@simwaxofficiel]

On your level i think it IS so blessing to overpush fear and difficulty gnarly situation 💪

[@ms10000]

Keep it up guys, hawaii is so interesting for people living in all the worlds boring places :D

[@clairecoad4034]

Keep going don't give up, is the aim of the game! Content is good and varied on this episode. Could always do a cooking podcast.....might be funny.

[@simwaxofficiel]

You are so right Nate for weekend warriors !

[@mattboast8437]

You guys have the most honest,informative and entertaining content, great work. I reckon Markus could dish up some great stories about you guys as groms. 👍

[@damiencollins8124]

3 podcast episode ideas, 1: Get someone on, like a Luke Swanson, JJF, Zeke, or an air guru and do a show on “how to do airs” and actually break down everything JJ teaching you. 2: Exactly what boards you ride and dimensions, When you’d step up to a 6’2’4’6, 7 and what boards your ride where. At home, Mexico points, Teahupo'o 3: Take us though a week of training, workouts, reps in the gym. You could legit do a mini series as part of the channel, in which people could follow along. I mean you could even sell the program if you were really inclined. Keep up the great work

[@dalj9875]

Great podcast on the little things that can make a difference, like the shoulder turn...dj

[@James-gm4lv]

Great episode

[@FlippinPaperWithBilly]

Also throw up an air tutorial, Break down clips, and show what is right and wrong. I’m not a great skateboarder, but learned air by using a skateboard, acting like I am headed down the line on a wave and hit a little sidewalk driveway bump and ollie off in a 180 movement, it helps a lot. We want to know from the pros!

[@Timc220]

Great video fellas! Agreed, Guga’s burger and steak video’s will make you want to go out and cook some meat!

[@bpplus9713]

Love this channel ! Any chance of putting it out on Spotify? Love to listen on the road. Keep it up!

[@gaylepuou7214]

I enjoy listening to you guys. Look forward in seeing more.

[@surfish4112]

Brianna Cope would be a great guest.Smart and funny. She could bring her two puppies?😊

[@danielneethling757]

Nate we need an air progression from you! So sick!