#7 TEAHUPOO VS NAZARE VS JAWS, STEROIDS, HOTDOGS ON ACID

[@michaelyapp6099]

Seriously, you boys should have your own commentary after each WSL event. An honest, candid conversation without the hype.

[@alexlaux3995]

Yes pirate stream please!!

[@petermcguinness8222]

Everyone I know watches WSL events on mute. Literally unbearable to listen to. Would be great if you blokes could do a 'Manning brothers' version of commentary. Not that the big machine would ever agree. But...we can dream.

[@matt3082]

Maybe occasionally when it is pumping would be cool

[@justintindel9271]

You guys are really on to something with your desire to take ownership of the awards and recognition. Just want to encourage you to keep pushing this envelope and keep us posted how we can help. Thanks boys 🤙

[@nol3231]

I’ve struggled with insomnia for years. I overcame it with meditation, no screens before bed, a lot of exercise, quitting caffeine and cutting way back on cannabis. The biggest help by far was meditation. Ruminating thoughts will keep u awake all night. Calm the mind and sleep becomes way easier. It’s usually not a sleep issue, it’s an over active mind issue.

[@C.Hawkshaw]

Meditation makes new pathways from your gut to your brain and the rest of your body. It gives you a better “gut instinct”. Then you don’t have to think so hard with your brain about reading every daily interaction with people, and waves, and animals.

[@joeblow1942]

I struggle with insomnia often too. Can’t do caffeine at all and cannabis kills REM sleep.

[@djrakman3909]

meditation does not work for me anymore ever since i had a life changing head injury, the ruminating thought never go away and get worse as i am trying to sleep. If anybody is in the same catergory as me and struggling i suggest zopiclone. I basically puts your brain in the same mindstate as deep meditation but heavier and more sedative. Quitting coffee and pot and cutting back on sugar is vital, also fasting during the day and eating only once at night as much as possible makes a huge difference to slowing down your metabolism and getting to sleep at nights. Serious insomnia can not be cured with anything else except meds like zopiclone....

[@BeatingBanger]

Petition to release the filmers cup supercut!!! Keep it up guys, enjoying the talks and banters!

[@cosmicbackwoods]

this is the best breakdown on big waves/slabs and how to measure them ive seen so far. makes total sense to me

[@marckindl1071]

I swear Nate turns Koa into his best version - You can tell they have been friends their whole life lol

[@wasabiginger6993]

😂 … Koa looses the grumpy old man when Nates around

[@seblivefloormanager]

​@Wasabi Ginger I'm guessing Nate has that effect on most people 🤣

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

Nate is infectious

[@ranaya241]

Keep it up Boyz!

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

Damn you should drop chicken joe some dough so he can get a pair of fins

[@solomon6082]

This channel needs to blow up … its the duty of the people to make that happen

[@Dude-qs3pe]

Nate, just as the megaburst of energy you get since you started eating early in the day,Try to reverse the process at the end of the day so you are not generating the insane energy. The reason you feel so different and crave food is how the name breakfast was formed. It is when you break your body fast. Once done the cycle starts. Good luck with upcoming year and don’t worry about what is appreciated by the masses. Pioneers aren’t appreciated. Look how long Jeff Clark surfed Mavericks by himself. We watch and appreciate every time you are in the water. You and Koa are the future!!

[@GabrielLeFrancois]

Best Pod on surfing you will ever see. These two are real. Love it.

[@jimmyskinnie]

You guys should do a breakdown of all these waves, from a technical standpoint while showing them. That would be fun

[@robinlathim8221]

That would br super cool!

[@jonbellomy8972]

Yeah boys love this podcast, Nate where I’m can I score the sauce?

[@bbwvelvet]

Loved this ! Thanks Jack for splicing in the reference images too as it helped me better understand. Love yall!

[@williamgriffith6061]

Listening to ya'll talking about the intricacies of different flagship landmark world class waves is so interesting.

[@reaperfishingnj8623]

Awesome vid yet again guys!!! It's like i'm there with ya. Very hard to keep my attention for 30 minutes but you guys can. Heal up Nate

[@tommathews3964]

Filmer's Cup=Epic entertainment! It's a must release! It would, unfortunately, be more entertaining than these winter WSL events there. I'm hoping you guys find an audio equipment company that wants to mic you up! That echo is a little rough. I'm really enjoying these podcasts!

[@andrewjones7971]

A really enjoyable podcast and discussion about big wave and slab surfing. A lot of big wave surfing at Nazare for example, seems like the surfer is outrunning the wave as opposed to surfing it (apart from Kai Lenny and a couple of other notable exceptions) Slab surfing seems to be far more about the surfer getting into the wave and locking in to the barrel using speed and technique; as Nathan states, it is far more technical to surf a slab. Cheers

[@SasoCasablanca63]

Best podcast by far. Its different , witty , real and funny. Keep it up!

[@Rupprod141]

Nate you’re probably over-training and pushing your body into a permanent fight-or-flight mode, which is why you can’t fall asleep at night.

[@joeblow2183]

Yea that cortisol can do it

[@cosmicbackwoods]

yup adrenal fatigue is no joke man. it fucked me up bad for a while. i read Beyond Training and stopped working out so hard. started sleeping way better

[@wasabiginger6993]

If I have caffine after noon, can’t sleep. And have heard of what Rod says here regarding over training is true.

[@ericjames9087]

Caffeine has a half-life, meaning your body is still metabolizing it in half it's intensity even after the obvious stimulation has worn off. It could still be present in your system for up to 9hrs after ingestion. And that midday coffee or energy drink is like hitting replay on the process; your sympathetic nervous system will be all keyed up. In terms of exercise, everyone's thresholds are different, but if pushed too far, a sustained adrenal response leads to a cortisol response. At that point, your sympathetic nervous system is overstimulated. Flood your body with caffeine and cortisol and you're looking at the recipe for "tired but wired." Parasympathetic nervous system activation will help. Meditation, yin yoga, breathwork (pranayama) - these all stimulate your parasympathetic nervous system. And alcohol for sleeping is a fools remedy. It will put you to sleep initially, yet keep you from deeper stages of restorative sleep as your blood sugar spikes throughout the night, resulting in low quality sleep. That equates to low quality athletic recovery which cumulatively leads to stress and eventual injury. Stay away from caffeine after midday. Avoid alcohol before bed. Be kind to your adrenal glands. Foster a relaxation practice 🤙🏼

[@0warami_7oo]

use kr4t0m instead of coffee and ashwagha to soothe the nerves after xl adrenaline dumps

[@isabellejaubert-fried1622]

Best best best collab and now I fav surf show ever!!!!!!!!!

[@williamgriffith6061]

Oh man, I asked for this episode, I know I'm not the only one, but man, I'm hyped

[@joeblow2183]

Koa got that pipe wave that he almost finished. It was wave of the year.

[@internetballet]

Boys are legends. Thank you

[@kevingyurecz]

Nate’s idea of measuring wave size from when the lip lands to the flat top. Is the best idea

[@kairandbellinger1973]

Brothers - Desert Wave hunters Here - I found a new surf spot for you two! Perfect Left reef break - rolling lines. I was watching the Disney Show 'Shipwreck Hunters'. (I love anything ocean) Check out Eps 5 'Survivers of Stefano' at the time stamp 6:39. Perfect lefts rolling in and no one out. I jumped out of my chair!!!!!

[@MG-gf1nw]

been loving this, thank you!!

[@42papyrus]

not only that but Teahupoo is also the coolest looking and the most fun to watch on YT

[@tonysmario]

the difference to surfers is when the ocean is FLAT on the back and 20 feet on the front, like teahupoo, and the lip is 10 feet thick...it's really about the amount of ocean folding over the reef...that's why teahupoo is so unique.

[@RMalise]

I loved the studio, it seems like Koa’s house, you guys are on another level You guys should do it twice a week hahaha

[@sosai8406]

Are we sticking to Nate and Koa Podcast now? i think its a great name. Also, I like the cuts and edits, and showing images (funny or informational) for some context 🤙

[@NathanFlorence]

we are!

[@Utcas]

Thanks a lot, awesome stuff

[@teauesera9236]

Keep up the content boys. Hilarious shit!!!

[@scottcannon3154]

Agreed with the new WSL format. Bring back the old tour schedule and end the season at Pipe

[@SuspiciouslyStickySock_808]

You should add their breathalyzer number or percentage to their score.. for instance if they get a 7 and blow a .08. They get a 7.8.. thus rewarding the drinking and commitment levels haha. Party on Garth

[@MrCbowman84]

This is soooo good!

[@beachman1221]

Another GREAT vid, keep pushing the awards get it done the right way.

[@suterfloyd16]

Great podcast! Would be cool to hear some old school pipe stories, Andy and Bruce, wolfpack days, also get Jamie on as a guest aloha and mahalo🤙🏽

[@AgSummerStudios]

Waiting for a new episode! We check everyday! Love your podcast!

[@norneva775]

Just learning the surfing lingo and different waves from these two the last 3 months and their explanation on surfing is super helpful and easy to understand

[@benwoody3202]

Aloha nui loa bois! Great stuff as always. Cheeee hoooo. 🤙

[@solomon6082]

15:28 even koas a smart dude.. he just takes his time with it.. and good for him.. i do too.. these conversations are deep man… this deserves more. Surfers need a voice too, and nobody hearing you.. money rules.. koas right on the money with that one… real stuff.. its not clear cut easy 123… but he keeps it simple and real. Many people cant do that.. 20:57

[@IMGDirect]

I need to see this filmers cup thing. Sounds so EPIC!!!

[@mikegillard1479]

Enjoyed that !! Have fun and stay alive 🔨🤙🏽

[@CarterParry]

Nate, awesome job biking Peacock Flats. I just shot a video a few months ago doing it with only one leg and lung... nearly killed me but the ride down was super fun

[@scottsobkajr2526]

Can you ding a bell or something when you play a video on the screen? I’m normally listening to this on walks so I’m not really looking at my phone. Thanks, love the show!

[@sferguson1130]

Listening to the big wave debate, and it made me think of Bert’s suggestion about drama lol. Good shit as always 🙌

[@FernandoLima-on9qc]

Keep pushing! You guys are crushing, can’t wait to see what you guys do for surfing 🔥

[@ethansanquist]

Love the podcast guys. It would be great if you also went over kind of what you did for the week with surfing and some upcoming trips and things that are going on in the surfing community. Would also be cool if you guys attack topics from the perspective of not doing anything about surfing so that you appeal to a wider audience. Maybe just could be done by explaining terms. Something else that I feel like what up the game is also, if you guys had your own independent mics and maybe some good background noise like the ocean or outside with the birds. Also, I would love to hear your guises take on the Apple series, make or break and maybe what do you think its affect on the surfing culture and popularity it has.

[@charlievaughn0000]

“I eat cameras!” - Koa … haaaaaaa!!! epic

[@mikihanaminamishin7039]

SLAB OF THE YEAR should be its own award 🤙🤙🤙

[@freekick129]

Man I could hear you guys talk about the nuance of waves from your experiences all day long

[@aaronbaker2003]

You really should do your own award contest. Guarantee it becomes THE award.

[@spencerbrady6791]

You guys are cutting edge in the podcast space

[@naturodoc]

You guys are great. Stay real. Stay you.

[@jacobthompson8083]

I would love to see a slab series surf comp. Jaws, Teahupo'o, and finishing at shipsterns

[@slkslk15]

For insomnia highly recommend no caffeine past mid day, and meditate / breath work before bed. It completely changed the game for me 🤙🤙🤙

[@cynthiawaters2050]

Nate's laugh is infectious lol!!!

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

100% agree on the measurement topic. Measure from where the lip lands.

[@jonathansurkis9188]

sucks JJF board broke yesterday. he should of won rd of 16. anyways u two are hilarious and make good content so far. and can't wait to see u back at Nate

[@markfitzurka9995]

I agree with the wave talking. slab waves look crazier. It looks like they crash down instead of rise up. One thing they have in common is I would never get near them. Shoulder to head high is right about my max. I have the most fun on waste high but I only surf in San Diego and not as often as I did at your age.

[@Snookninja386]

Nates face at the beginning of the podcast 😂😂😂

[@redeyestones3738]

I'm gonna have to get really stones, and come back and watch later, so I can be on you guys' level.... 😆

[@arf138]

being hurt sucks.. sitting there awake.. at 3am listening to podcasts about insomnia and about getting to sleep..

[@zacharymarston5316]

Question for you guys… what is your thoughts on helmets at pipe and in big wave surfing, and why don’t you wear them? This came from watching the Eddie, anytime someone ate it on a big drop, it looked like their heads slap pretty hard on the water. Does that actually happen or was I just seeing things? If you guys are wearing impact suits for the big falls and reef, why not use that same protection for your head?

[@auntyvic]

Great question!!

[@michelemeixner7604]

I just love U2! One of my favorite podcasts, ever. Every time, 💯i feel uplifted 😁

[@VisionEmerald]

this is great boys, good vibes 🤙

[@josephdolan7566]

Well I was eating 9 eggs a lot of days but there too expensive now!!! Haha always stoked for a new episode

[@williamward7801]

Awesome ending boys!

[@thenewtowncryer]

It's great that they are not directly trying to top the last pod.

[@southvaron757]

I have been thoroughly enjoying you guys, since I found your Podcast. I grew up just north, of a strip of sandbars where Koa showed up around a year or so ago, and I believe he left a bit surprised over the conditions he found there that day. There is a very interesting guy, from the NS community, who also grew up here, and regularly commuted to that same strip in N.C. at an early age, where he developed such a love of Surfing, that he left here at 17, and moved to the NS. A Buddy of mine, who I met in the early 90's, kept asking my girl & I, to go to Hawaii with him, & meet his childhood buddy, who was an established Surf Photographer there. In Feb. of '96, we finally agreed to go, and it turned out, that his Buddy was everything Dominic had bragged about. When we arrived, Brian had set us up with a bedroom in Foo's back house, that everyone there claimed, was the room right below a little room where Mark once slept, and could check the waves from when he woke each morning. It was also likely a good spot to watch Koa the morning of the Eddie, panicking & parking his truck. This trip set off a few incredible experiences for me. Like Dominic, & Brian convincing Melissa & I to postpone our return flights, & extend our visit from 21 to 25 days. On the 24th day, we drove to Brian's(likely very close to Koa's house), to thank him for his hospitality, and arrived to find his roommate Vince, in a springsuit holding his flippers & camera. He asked us for a ride to Pipe, to shoot a contest being held that day. We had no idea, but even though it was raining & overcast, we were there. We saw some big names, and I joked around with this cool old guy passing out jerseys, about trading my WRV sweatshirt, for his HIC contest tee shirts. And the winner, of his first Pro Contest: Some Kid named Andy Irons. But this is about a guy some of the younger people may not know very well, but would make a very likeable & interesting guest on your Podcast- Brian Bielman! Sadly, our mutual friend Dominic passed away a couple of years ago, but Brian has very interesting stories about people he's met while waiting for contests all over, he has an incredible knowledge & interest in Rock & Blues music, and a one of a kind collection of his photography, perfect for any residence or business. I hope he's available if you guys are interested. I know I'll enjoy it..... Mark's sister Sharlyn, told me that the old guy passing out jerseys, was "Original Hawaiian Beachboy": Rabbit Kekai. I have a cool photo of him and Derek Ho. I also have rare video of A.I. in his Semi & Final heat, but I had never used a Video Cam before, & didn't know there was a zoom. "Dork!"

[@patricknoveski6409]

Love the banter. Put more clips in please. Mathee sp. Rules. Steroids kill! No Koa. Don't try. Keep going boys. Make your own contest.NO ALCOHOL.

[@teauesera9236]

Yep. You guys need to get your own awards. N AND K XXL awards and Wave of the Winter.

[@kairandbellinger1973]

KEEP GOING! Desert Mind Surfers are behind you!!!!

[@scottburrow8717]

Love watching both of you surf Teahupo’s. My favorite break to watch guys surf.

[@Cabrinhakite]

Legendary Duo 🏋️‍♀️🏋️‍♀️

[@guiart4728]

What a laugh!!! Jamming on how much caffeine you’re pumping and ….HELLO… having trouble sleeping??? Shocking!!! Not…you guys are hilarious!!!

[@0warami_7oo]

geniuses

[@solomon6082]

31:49 koas laugh 😂.. koa makes people laugh to see him laugh true is a gem.. hes a rascal sometimes.. lil bandit… but hes a real one…

[@cassio2341]

I used to have super bad insomnia. I gave up caffeine, and that fixed it. Even though I always stopped drinking caffeine before 3pm, and had only a couple drinks a day, it was still keeping me up at night. Made a huge difference. I still miss coffee though 😢

[@ethansanquist]

guys please upload these on apple podcast

[@michaelanderson3710]

Does the WSL do any ped testing or is there any sort of anti doping in comp surfing?

[@stephenlewis7756]

keep these going

[@frankymacf]

No XXL awards this year is a bummer. Nate’s Mullaghmore paddle was a shoe-in for ROTY

[@C.Hawkshaw]

About sleep. You might have some PTSD from the spinal fracture. Your brain and gut are arguing about whose fault it was that you went ahead on that wave. It was your brain’s fault. Your brain has ego. Your gut doesn’t. Your brain can never process as quickly or deeply about danger as your gut can. After an injury, your gut will work harder to send you the message about that incident. If you resist it, and let the brain say “I got this” , the war rages on, and you won’t sleep, for the tension. Let the message come in. Embrace it, feel it. Don’t think. Keep feeling it until the gut is reassured that next time you will humble your brain to the gut’s supreme processing power. Your gut wants to protect you.

[@garyrobinson4847]

Koa Nathan thank you 😃🤙 😂😂👏🏼

[@jontylansbury9059]

(Conversation at ~16 mins) the difference with other sports is that the playing field is the same. That's not the case with surfing. Some people rip at lowers but cannot compete at Chopes and vice versa. I would love them to go back to the old way of crowning the Champion. Also, other countries outside of the US don't operate on the "Super Bowl" model so it does really suck for us. Love the podcast!!!

[@notleeland]

16:30 Completely agree, should be decided at Pipe

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

Gotta cater to the brazzos….

[@notleeland]

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd ya true haha what’s up Chicken Joe

[@sweetwater1962]

Listen to "The Drop" by Thad Ziolkowski to put drugs/drinking into a surfing context and watch "Facing Monsters" if you want to talk about Gnarly slabs.....

[@bloblablah7409]

Nate, get some sleeping pills with diphenhydramine in them. I got some sleep aid ones from amazon, each pill has about 50mg per pill. It’s essentially benadryl and that stuff knocks me out cold. I’d definitely avoid taking it every night but it’s a good last resort if I really can’t fall asleep. It can definitely make you groggy the next morning so keep it in mind, but the stuff works

[@0warami_7oo]

perfect after too many coffees

[@seawolf3565]

Speaking slab truth to power! 🔥💪🏼🤣

[@Bergstorm]

Cant get enough u guys are greT

[@paulhansen6496]

Best workout advice I ever heard " Start out slow and then taper off".

[@paulhansen6496]

@NICEGRAM_ME_NateAndKoaPodcast thanks for all your excellent Podcasts. Why would I deserve a prize?? Stay well!!

[@algorerhyth]

The new Mics really add a lot of production value

[@jonreally7315]

Deep breathing before your ready to sleep … it works

[@Sol_Weird]

Agreed, Griffin won twice, and still didnt make it to the final event... Best K&N Podcast yet!

[@vokstar]

I used to really struggle to get to sleep, then I started to use self hypnosis. It was meant to be used in a way to give you positive messages and all that kinda thing but I modified it so that my body was relaxed and more importantly I thought about nothing as that was the problem for me getting to sleep, my mind would race. It does take an age, at least a month every night doing it and I'm well out of practice, but it's worth a go.

[@fritzvdw]

Do you have to pay at the sunrise shack? Discount?

[@fritzvdw]

You should show your best wave of the week at the end of each podcast

[@seblivefloormanager]

Great idea!

[@clinterbox808]

Braaa, 33 minutes is a lil too short for me. I need an hour! I'm happy with any amount of time, but.....I really want more cuz!

[@Gangazz4Life]

Get Nate to try athletic greens - everyone I’ve seen take it has had some significant positive impacts & they could potentially sponsor the podcast

[@freekick129]

Great idea they would for sure sponsor this podcast too!

[@CalisthenicsWork]

Definitely find the same when coming off intermittent fasting - appetite goes crazy. Training burpees hard gave me awful sleep problems.

[@solomon6082]

17:59 look.. nathan chugging it koas slow roll… 😂