10 Incredible Facts About Crowd Psychology

[@thomasdarby6084]

Years ago, I was visiting a friend who owned a restaurant in downtown Oakland, California. There was a peaceful demonstration going down the street by his door, carrying signs and shouting slogans. It remained peaceful until *someone* began throwing rocks at the police. The police responded with pushing shields and, ultimately, tear gas. Cars were overturned and set on fire, and shop windows were broken as looting began. Luckily my friend's restaurant was not a target. The main crowd was trying to flee the area, and police let them go. Some of the looters, and those who threw rocks and overturned cars, were arrested; and NOT ONE of them lived in Oakland! Most were from the Seattle area, hundreds of miles north. They were simply anarchists, purposely causing a riot. They wore all black and covered their faces. Now, I understand what you've said about crowd psychology... but the most peaceful crowd can be disrupted by those whose goal it is to disrupt.

[@jaspr1999]

The last large crowd I was in was a concert in Dallas and something I think should be pointed out. There was no way I could possibly reach the handicapped seats through the mass of people. The end result was a bunch of fellow metalheads helped me and my wife to a better vantage point so we could watch the concert. I'd guess that over a hundred people moved aside and/or actively help us get to that position. Other than to be heard over the music and the crowds, there was not one angry voice. Group mentality can be a wonderful thing too.

[@dirtydirt421]

Metalheads..we are all violent unintelligent devil worshippers they say..hows those country concerts work out..riots trashed parking lots and venues..yea metalheads are a problem haha

[@jaspr1999]

@@dirtydirt421 - Yeah... You're so right! I'm a '70's to current metalhead, and the concert consisted of us older farts and the younger crowd all jamming out together. Yup... Violent folks we are... And proud of it!!! Keep Rockin' on Dirty Dirt!!!

[@dirtydirt421]

@@jaspr1999 🤘🤘 same to you brother

[@aftersexhighfives]

My favorite videos online involves a bunch of metal heads. One was a girl was in the mosh pit and lost her top. Four men formed around her to shield her nudity and five others found her top and one gave her his top shirt. Everyone back to moshing. No talking, just action. Other is a mom and young child she was carrying at a very very large music festival were very lost and ended up in the moshing area. Several formed around her and safely got them to their family. The relief on the mom's face really sat with me. Metal heads are the best crowds honestly. Land of the misfit toys really can party hearty and some of the best people I know.

[@spacealienrissley]

Bsa 2010 national jamboree amd the 2013 one a few mistskes of amnulances running people.over and scouts dieing

[@ktwei]

While in a crowd I like to chant "IMHOTEP" repeatedly

[@AtheistOrphan]

Kev Tan - So I’m not the only one then?

[@aftersexhighfives]

I wanna know what the artist would do if everyone started chanting Imhotep at them. Deep monk drone voices. Would be a great twilight zone short.

[@Mustlovebooks15]

Every time

[@lifewuzonceezr]

You are my laugh of the month! That will stick with me! Bravo!

[@superpikkle3983]

I chant "JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!"

[@christineparis5607]

We were in Los Angeles when the riots happened and it was multiple violent clusters of people who began to act out in different areas all over the city. What I found scary was the repeated announcements on every channel that EVERY police unit available and EVERY fire dept. were in that area and making it clear that it was the perfect time to go nuts because the city resources were overwhelmed. On one channel the news casters were asking people not to use 911 because there would be NO response. Within minutes, our neighborhood had groups of people smashing car windows and throwing bottles at passing cars. LA handled everything so badly I'm surprised the whole place didn't go up in flames...

[@RaydeusMX]

That's because 99.99% of the people living in the city in that situation just stay peacefully inside. So even the most powerful crime organizations would require a lot of prep to take down a portion city, and thus a bunch of vandals would have no real effect in the end. Unsettling yes, but it would require Government level of resources or complete societal collapse to do the kind of damage you are thinking about.

[@aftersexhighfives]

They were told the cat was tied up. Of course the mice will play.

[@seraphina985]

@@RaydeusMX Even then there probably isn't any organised crime organisation that could hold the territory against the full might of the US government, a poor third world country or a state with a collapsing government due to civil war or massive economic collapse etc maybe but even the biggest most powerful organised crime organisations don't have the resources to take on the US government when they resort to using the military to reoccupy the area. Same goes for pretty much any first world country really the resources their government have at their disposal or at least can bring to task if the situation calls for it could take down pretty much any organised crime group if they force the matter to become an all out military engagement.

[@seanm191]

Dark Democrats for ya.

[@robertcatesby7055]

"There's no justice like angry mob justice." -- Principal Skinner

[@samanthamonaghan7579]

As a former security guard and Event moderator and safety officer, I found the best way to guide crowds is to not be authoritarian, but rather another member of the event. I would put on a performance and interact with people.

[@RavenCain23]

I'm always surprised by how many people show up for a crowd.

[@cliffordhodge1449]

Not sure where this fits in here, but I believe it was in the 90s that body passing was a problem in college football stands. One person even got passed up to the very top and over the wall entirely, taking a fall from the top of the seating area to the pavement below.

[@momop1848]

People are shockingly chill. The fire alarm has been set off a few times in the museum I work at. Almost no one acknowledges the alarm. We have to tell people to leave. Otherwise they continue looking at exhibits or trying to buy souvenirs. I'm glad people don't panic. But I'm also concerned by the complete lack of concern and/or urgency.

[@annettefournier9655]

Nope, still hate crowds, avoid them at all costs.

[@chrisbalfour466]

I agree and I think safety in numbers is overrated.

[@lifewuzonceezr]

Watching this has me clenching my jaw! Inside day !

[@jhoughjr1]

Ignores riots like Ferguson, soccer riots, other sports riots and all the people who died when trampled at concerts. Nothing is more dangerous than a crowd of people.

[@mybraineatseverything7404]

I've actually helped people out of mosh pits. The one I remember most is at Guns 'N Roses in the 80's. Two really tiny girls were getting smooshed by all the big guys in the pit. Literally, no one could see them, they were so short. I'm not a big girl either, but I could hold my own in the pit, so I basically pushed with my hands and feet on those in front of me to make a tunnel of sorts to get them out. Fortunately the people closer to the edge saw what was happening and helped clear a path for them the rest of the way out.

[@michaelfrench3396]

This first to was taught to me in first aid class twenty years ago. Point at the person and tell them what you want then to do. If you point, there isn't any confusion as to whom is being asked and people feel responsible

[@joyceblackmon1745]

Michael French yea be t could you imagine the confusion when a stranger tht is injured everyone stating at him and lets say he has a broke leg and all of a sudden he points at U "hey u fix my leg" lol not sayim i wouldn't help but it would be strange

[@steved2008]

This channel is strangely addictive

[@edwordwhy9491]

I worked in a pet store in Queens on Austin Street. The rear doorway was where Kitty Genovese's body was found. No ghosts to report, but the locals were very aware of the history.

[@Quacks0]

I am the "odd one out" when it comes to crowd mentality, and proud of it, I must say. At more than one funeral, after family members made speeches, nobody else got up to speak till I made the first move, and then lots of other folks followed suit. And at a model-boat race, I was the one who actually took it upon himself to clamber down the back and remove a shoreline-fringe of seaweed that was messing up the boats' propellers. :)

[@waggonroyce4611]

This is the best video on youtube.

[@kellykerr5225]

There are huge crowds at Disney World and the like every day. I just hate the long lines. I did go to a concert with a crowd and people accidentally spilled their beer on me. I thought to myself how much fun I used to have there but now I’m just too old for that.

[@jessbragg1]

5:03 true,humans aren't always crazy in crowds UNLESS there's a sale somewhere

[@josephstalin8423]

Thank you for the info Simon, now I can reunite the Soviet Union.

[@mybad.7164]

Crowds are not violent France 🇫🇷: hold my beer

[@Kris-wo4pj]

France is a terrible example that country has been a powder keg for years.

[@TheSadButMadLad]

Individuals within a crowd are violent. The crowd as a whole isn't.

[@anti-victimGenX]

Crowds are not violent. Antifa... Hold My Soymilk!

[@shebbs1]

Not just France, look at all those supposedly morally superior, preachy liberal types, always BS-ing about tolerance and how they reacted when Hillary lost in 2014.

[@acepilot1]

Mandie Smith nah Antifa isn’t violent, most of what they do is stand up to violent right wingers

[@LoringHanley]

Very interesting. Thanks Simon.

[@yvette889]

i cant stand crowds or even busy shops. i stay away

[@nicolek4076]

Herding cats is easy ... if you understand your particular cats' motivating factors.

[@thomasdarby6084]

I've herded cats before. My neighbor had about thirty of them when I was about 12; she was nutty, but loved her kitties, and paid me to watch them while she was in a hospital. All I had to do was carry out two big platters full of wet cat food, and they'd follow me wherever I went until I sat them down. Of course one or two feisty felines tried to take a shortcut by climbing my legs, which made me glad they were cats, not cows.

[@Punnikin1969]

Herding cats is a whole lot easier if you have access to a fire hose.

[@saraa.7760]

Every once in a while it is fascinating to be part of a crowd..concerts, demos and so on.. And just wonder: could i now step up and do something that all those peopke would not like?

[@Aled1976]

Firstly, 96 people died at Hillsborough and it was the fault of the police, who lied, manipulated and distorted the law and the truth for over 25 years before the Hillsborough Independent Report exonerated all fans of any wrongdoing and recommended that the courts opened manslaughter charges against those involved. This is actually happening right now. As I was there, maybe your researchers should do proper research before you comment on an incident like this because not only did you get every fact about it wrong, but you could potentially upset those who were there by your ignorance. I enjoy your channel but I suggest you read the Hillsborough Independent Report which is available to download for free online, and then come back and say it was accidental etc!!!

[@bobthegoat7090]

Did he say anything that accused the fans? He even said it happened because of bad barriers, they were let in too soon and in the wrong places. He also said that the fans wasn't even aware they might be crushing someone else

[@Aled1976]

@@bobthegoat7090 he also claimed that "accidents" such as Hillsborough when it was no accident and could and should have been avoided as has been proven. I never said he said he blamed the fans, did I? No. I stated the real facts about it, something he failed to do so get a grip.

[@theibecks]

Agreed. He did say ‘incident’ rather than accident but it wasn’t a case of anyone being able to stop ‘causing the crushing’ because they didn’t have a choice. The line “officials were never sure where the problem started” is inaccurate. The Hillsborough report specifies exactly what caused it and the families have so far had to spend 30 years campaigning for justice for their loved ones who were blamed. They were killed due to negligent crowd management. And there were 96 victims, not 93 as he stated.

[@lifeisoverated81]

Boondock Saints. Great movie. Young Norman Reedus. We're sorta like 7-11. We're not always doing business, but we're always opn.

[@PiousSlayer]

The Bystander Effect can be very scary. I watched a video a long time ago of a guy holding a machete trying to pull a woman from a crowded trolly. (This was somewhere in the Middle East, I am not sure where and I refuse to look up the video again). The guy proceeded to remove her from the trolly, she was basically kneeling and screaming and the guy proceeded to behead her, right there. Surrounded by people on the trolly and also on the street. There were so many people, yet no one did anything to try and save her. They just stood and watched it all happen. On one hand, the guy had a machete, so would an unarmed person try to intervene and be killed instead of/with the intended victim? EDIT: This was not a Hollywood video or anything like that, the person filming was on the sidewalk of the street and you could see it all happen. I think this took place at a bus stop and the guy boarded the trolly when it stopped to let passengers on/off. Again, details are a little hazy.

[@lisamac1986]

If it’s the Middle East could be because she’s a woman?

[@tymajenga276]

Watching this in 2020 and i just have to laugh out loud because there were mass riots world wide and billions in damage

[@senses70]

Simon, I love your channels, however, on this subject, you forgot the biggest killers in a crowd, the stampedes and crush of people following a panic. I was involved in a small one in France in a tunnel, visiting a bridge. 2 motorbikes enter the dark tunnel before the bridge and the terrifying amplified noise of their engines created a sudden panic among the hundreds of people around me and my family, resulting in a fast communicated fear that ended with hundreds of people pushing each other, killing 2 children and injuring countless others by simply pushing and running over them. If you look in Wikipedia, there is a page about the worst stampedes in history, resulting in hundreds of death. The people involved of course didn’t want to kill but my point is that, yes, in a panic situation, a crowd can be deadly, whatever the reason the people grouped together in the first place.

[@OzSteve9801]

There are dozens of cases where an injured or ill person has tried to get help, only to be ignored by passers by. My grandmother had a stroke in a busy shopping centre. According to the CCTV it was 2 hours before anyone checked to see if she was OK. By this time she had died. In general, people don't want to get involved or they think someone else will do something. Don't be one of those people.

[@Robert-yc9ql]

This has grown in relevance since last year. I agree that those who "have an agenda" are the ones who act violently, often using the crowd as cover for their nefarious actions. I highly recommend that those participating in peaceful protests keep a sharp eye out for those who would ruin that peace. "Police yourselves" could be a valid mantra for demonstrators.

[@christiaankinne8186]

Thanks Simon & Company!

[@ktkat1949]

I live in a small town so have never really been in what others would call a crowd. The first time I went to London I was gobsmacked at the number of people just walking on the street! However, I have two comments. One I am always amazed, happy and gratified when I see people working together to save someone. For instance helping to push a car off a motorcyclist who was trapped underneath or as the gentleman below commented about helping people getting to seats etc. Crowds can be very helpful. Simon is correct when he says humans do want to help humans. The second thing is that video of Queen at Live Aid. The gigantic crowd watching their performance just floored me. Everyone was so happy. As the cameras covered the crowd you could see everyone so happy and into the moment. No pushing shoving just enjoying the show. Another example of a great crowd. PS was waiting for the comments about the Hillsboro disaster. That will remain a abscess on the British memory for generations.

[@Quacks0]

7:20 So can simply saying, "Excuse me"... many a time I have been able to fairly quickly make my way through a large throng by merely saying "Excuse me" to others as I unobtrusively thread my way though among my fellow humans :D

[@IxyMorningstar]

I go to a 2-week event every summer (less COVIDsummer) where there's an average of about 20 - 30 thousand people at any given time. A few years back, a twister almost touched down near the site. There wasn't insane mass panicking with everyone trying to exit the site all at once. There's only one road in and out of the event site, and people knew that rushing like idiots wasn't going to help them escape. Most people remained relatively calm and tried to get into a shelter of some sort, whether that was one of the few permanent buildings on the site or in dense corps of trees. The twister didn't end up fully forming, but I think people would have remained about where they were, even if it had.

[@AldershotDave]

96 people were killed at Hillsborough in 1989, not 93!! The clue was on the banner in the picture that you used!!

[@s.knaturegirl9895]

198 is me or my brother's birthday I for get who's

[@nla440]

Great video! Love it

[@hotdrippyglass]

I would like to see this one followed by one about "hooligans" at - football games - as well as rioting revelers after team sports winning games. You and the team do great work Simon. Thanks.

[@drzarkov39]

"Crucify Him, crucify Him."

[@swampk9]

I'll just go with whatever other remarks everyone else is making

[@spisie130]

this channel gets me through my work day like 10x faster

[@mybraineatseverything7404]

I've been to loads of concerts, many with mosh pits, and the only violence I've ever seen was between two people who had a beef with one another. One happened right in front of me at - believe it or not - a Rod Stewart concert! Didn't expect that one! The other time was my friend's stupid boyfriend at a Who concert. Dumbass started a fight with some guy who was climbing over the chairs row by row to the front, but was moving on. MY boyfriend politely asked if he planned on moving on and dude said yes. Then my friend's idiot boyfriend saw dude in our row and punched him without a word! Never went to a concert with him again - and they broke up soon after that. :-D

[@maryannbrackman4338]

Tabula Rasa. You said it was in the Middle East, a place where men seem to be ' disciplining ' women in public places at times, and usually people don't intervene because they don't get into the middle of such things.

[@twisted_introvert]

Watching this during the 2020 BLM protests is very enlightening.

[@Quacks0]

I can't help thinking of the "Cabbage Patch dolls" incident where some people were injured and killed by the mad rush to get the first toys of the season... totally crazy actions to take merely over kiddie-toys, and besides, why anyone would have even wanted those hideous-looking things is beyond me, anyway.

[@roedhunt]

Very interesting. I think it also has to do with where you live. I lived down south for a while and in a crowd, people were still so friendly. Where I live now, however, the majority of people here are rude and in a world of their own and will basically ignore everyone. Now imagine a crowd of them at Christmas time. You couldn't pay me enough to go out in those crowds.

[@natalie8212]

Just look at the difference between Woodstock and Woodstock 99.( Not taking into account some facade of hippie love and gentleness). At Woodstock there was cheap, even free food and places to separate yourself if you needed to. In 99 it was 5$ or more for a bottle of water, and food was astronomically priced. And you weren't allowed to bring your own in with you. So in both cases it was hot and overcrowded, but one ended as the most peaceful coming together of people, while the other ended in rapes, murder, arson and arrests.

[@social-mathematics]

Humanity needs you. Keep going.

[@mikeacton2203]

swarm theory, the crowd as collective, where individuality is suspended, morality forgotten, basic human decency no longer a factor

[@Jodonho]

Charlottesville and tiki torches

[@clintbandura9018]

After antifa showed up and initiated violence

[@Blank55600]

Have you not seen a deathcore crowd?

[@ollienang7253]

Nicest people ever!

[@dirtydirt421]

Pretty much any metal concert

[@BogWitch8440]

Worst crowds? Black friday crowds of shoppers, especially back in like 2000, when Internet shopping wasn't a big thing. I was crushed and almost smothered by a horde of southern proto-Karens piling into a small town Walmart to buy five dollar blenders and some stupid toy their kids would forget about thirty minutes after opening it on xmas morning. I hated that job.

[@brianwalters8641]

Yeah. Whenever I see a crowd, I 'Nope!' myself into the opposite direction.

[@hankw5086]

The TV show Brain Games had a fascinating episode about going along with the crowd.

[@kaitlyncramp3100]

Started writing a comment relating to a social experiment about group think but the last part answered my confusion

[@rgerber]

Have you ever seen a crowd in a movie? They behave just like a irrational bunch of maniacs, opposite this video

[@danielsjohnson]

Rgerber that was part of Simon's point in this video. Movies are based on stuff pop culture got wrong.

[@isladurrant7895]

Movies aren't real life

[@Joshliftsandfitness]

What is the name of that island fromed by drunk Canadian fisherman that went to war with the USSR

[@rebelwilly2319]

Minneapolis riots brought me here

[@tjr3145]

Republicans: "Jobs not Mobs". Simon Whistler: "Mobs are friendly and act ethically...…..Also FDR was a Republican who wanted redistribution of wealth and an overreaching government" (and yes, he did say FDR was a Republican).

[@teamspaceman]

this video hits differently after Jan 6th 2021...

[@rickyhunt4075]

Can't speak for all situations however When I was in high school there was a fire and people went crazy and just ran like hell to get out some people fell and were stomped on fortunately there wasn't any deaths but some people went to the hospital for injuries.

[@kittn831]

So are crowds a solid or a liquid?

[@Diogenes323]

I'm really fascinated by crowd behavior

[@matthewjackson9615]

Come ride with me then, I'll show you what it looks like.

[@joannivaldi2106]

There were a couple of times when me and my kids were trampled at Disneyworld.

[@TheShayneMay]

I normally do not comment, but this definitely seems to be a redefinition of the term "groupthink". Come on now you guys. I expect better from you all!

[@MiXVoy]

Forgot to mention the 2006 Ultra Coliseun Stampede in the Philippines

[@MeyaRoseGirl]

I'm an enochlophobe, so this video is helpful.

[@mikeacton2203]

the crowd, a study of the popular mind, by Gustave le Bon, a seminal work on the subject of crowds

[@AtheistOrphan]

mike acton - Wasn’t he the lead singer of Duran Duran?

[@bernzeppi]

“Suffocated due to a lack of air”

[@sinnombre-xs9ub]

Excellent topic & presentation! See Mackay’s “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”, 1841.

[@guernseydonkey17]

I have just watched Today I found out about places where people live the longest, I live in Guernsey & wish to point out a few things, there are rich people on the island but they are mostly ones who took advantage of low tax rates & were not born here but for a lot of local people it'a harder to survive & we pay for our medical care which is why we have a decent one though a lot of people end up in dept to the doctors. Would you do a program on why we are English though we live close to France please

[@TheGrmany69]

There is a need for an analysis on Venezuelan crowd behaviour, even in the worst of the oppression and madness, and State terrorism, most people remained peaceful the 2017 and 2018 riots, riots where government paid gangsters attacked and killed several individuals.

[@kathykay2010]

It would take the appearance of my Savior to lure me into a crowd of people. And, most likely, that event will find very few people gathered or caught up in that moment. I pray that I will be happily surprised with a endless crowd that is beyond measure!!!

[@1TakoyakiStore]

I was unfortunate enough to be at a music festival in Orlando Florida called Earthday Birthday (probably in 2008 or 2009) where a scantily clad lady was crowd surfing when everyone around her started sexually molesting her, to the point where guys were attempting to pull her remaining clothes off (one guy even attempted to finger her). At the time that it happened I would have eagerly joined in yet prior to that I wouldn't have thought of myself capable of doing that. The experience disturbed me because it was like the crowd had hijacked my brain. I never want to go through something like that again.

[@eurosonly]

More reasons not to go outside.

[@kenxclout]

I clicked on the video then got a notification 🤯 I think I am faster than the speed of light

[@poorpoorentertainment5593]

Damn so close

[@christelheadington1136]

That's what she said.

[@joannivaldi2106]

Faster than the speed of Simon lol

[@randibeal8591]

Yay! Psychology!!

[@tigerstyle4505]

Not hard to make me violent in a place like Disney lol

[@llongone2]

#9 is actually totally easy...if you are in Philadelphia.

[@FeedMeSalt]

It's almost like we are pack animals or something.

[@poorpoorentertainment5593]

Yes I'm the first one to comment please do a video on Richard Ramirez the night stalker

[@BuickDoc]

However, if a crowd is organized and certain people wish to start a riot, they can do it easily, as opposed to a 'random' crowd

[@hermangre]

So what did Bernie Jacobs really do? How does he really fit into this?

[@YahBoiDrip]

No Simon, thank you for informing.

[@pdmark311]

disney is amazing at crowd control

[@saulthechicanootaku]

The price rises and new policies are helping.

[@kieranosullivan4966]

96 people died at hillsborough not 93 and the police, football club and ambulance service all played a part the tragedy.

[@gregorymyers3886]

We apologize if there were any technical errors with that part of the story, especially considering how important and sensitive a historical event it was for so many. I certainly did not mean to forget any of the dead, and I thought I got it right from the sources I used -- I apologize for missing three of their number. As for the rest, the point was that the entire situation was not caused by "the crowd being unruly". Yes, the owners of the stadium (the football club) and everyone involved in the official response played a role, but the crowd was not to blame. I didn't mean to miss any responsibility where it lay, just to make clear that it wasn't about "crazy crowds", but failures on multiple levels by people who should have been properly corralling and caring for the safety of said crowds.

[@Veronika-il1ms]

Number 5, crowd tragedy is accidental...

[@PoolKid75]

Your sports references are from a European perspective. In North America we don't have sections for fans of teams. Fans of both teams and interspersed throughout the arena or stadium. IMO far less chance of a riot starting that way.

[@jonnunn4196]

It was probably an accident; season ticket holders have first pick, and here they wanted the best seats within their sections for a given price, in the game of football and basketball, they preferred sitting closer to the action even if it meant being on the other side of the stadium. Hockey is a bit different, with three innings and switching sides every inning, it's not symmetric and so season ticket holders will concentrate on the side in which the home team attacks twice. With most of the single game tickets concentrated on the other side of the stadium, the visiting fans will also be more concentrated.

[@yll1551]

Have you ever been to South Africa? Not one of these points apply to us here. Sociology and psychology has it completely wrong when it comes to our country.

[@Eckister]

"if you liked our video press the like button" (and do it as a group)

[@dudepool7530]

"you'll never walk alone" seems a bit insensitive for people trampled in a crowd...

[@sgtmarty9682]

Big difference between a crowd and a mob, and mixing comparisons of the two in this video is both distracting and deflecting. Each time there is an element of higher emotional states, commonality of active purpose, and criminal actions you are talking about a mob and not a crowd. Mob psychology is very, very different from crowd behaviors.

[@markcarey67]

If crowds were inherently chaotic and violent police wouldn't have to resort to agent provocateurs

[@Leftyotism]

The higher the amount onf the conventioned, the lower the IQ of the mass : > i forgot who said that

[@jonpaul857]

What about war?

[@beepboop9464]

Pitchforks and torches aren't as outdated as you think. Look no further than Charlottesville, va a couple years ago.

[@mlfeathers7527]

Clare Keys 😢😢😢

[@TomAndersonDH]

Wasn't that just a small group of people?

[@beepboop9464]

@@TomAndersonDH Not really. I mean it wasn't massive, but it's a small town and it was over a thousand I am pretty sure.

[@TomAndersonDH]

@@beepboop9464 ​Well I just went ahead and searched it out of curiosity. It said it was about 250 people and not all were from that town. I've seen bigger crowds of people causing more damage with their "Protest". I feel like most people when they form groups and protest it's just a way to unite hate while under the guise of justice. I think this only got so much publicity because a person died and it was a group of white guys in the rally. Some white girl got killed by a car driven by a white guy and while 19 other people were injured it doesn't really say anywhere how extensive their injuries were. Could have been scrapes and bruises. We live in a time of outrage so things like this get blown out of proportion. Also many conflicting reports on casualty number and injured. Some say 1-3 dead and some say 19-35 injured. I chose to say only one died because I only found evidence of only one person dying while searching. Some white girl named heather. The other reports that say 2-3 people died don't list names. Yeah somebody died and thats messed up, but it was the action of one person filled with hate. It wasn't like all those people started trying to kill black people because they were white supremacist. Ferguson rioting with a majority of black people seems to still be considered a protest by most people these days even though many hate crimes happened and people not only died but many were injured as well. Beyonce once openly dressed in black panther attire once in support of it and everyone thought it was great. Their is clearly a double standard going on in this world and some people are just to woke to realize it.

[@beepboop9464]

@@TomAndersonDH the rally happened within a couple blocks. I lived in the town right near there. The woman who was killed by a white supremacist on purpose. I also used to live outside of Detroit so I have seen real riots. It doesn't lessen what happened in Charlottesville.

[@momcat2223]

How to explain sports fan violence ... _especially_ riots in the city of the winning team? Recent example = Philadelphia after the Super Bowl, but this has been going on for decades ... because???

[@johnhardin4358]

In the eastern Roman Empire there was a problem with the horse racing fans getting mixed up in politics. One day they filled the stadium, the legions sealed it off, and none came out alive. Colloseums are all about social control. During the Chilean fascist regime Colloseums were used as concentration camps where people were gathered to be tortured and murdered. I look around and see city councils whose lives are not complete until they have built a Colloseum. I stay away in droves. The one in Rome was famous for centuries for mass murder for entertainment. The rest are built on the same model. Occasionally the Emperor herded spectators into the slaughter. Served them right.

[@seraphina985]

Crowds where most members are fanatically passionate about one particular thing whether that be a sports team or a political issue etc can be among the more dangerous crowds. The problem is that there is a built in common thread to bind the group together that makes it a lot easier to trigger and us vs them mentality with any opposing group. This is especially dangerous if you introduce another group even a relatively small one that the first group perceives as their mutual rival such as a group of opposing team supporters or another political group that is advocating against what a political group are advocating etc. The less homogeneous the crowd is the less strongly they will feel a strong group identity and the less likely they are to fall into herd like behaviours thus why something like a theme park crowd would be much harder to rile up they don't really have anything common to unify them that can be used as a rallying cry.

[@slayallthedeamons]

Take all the points and reverse them, and then you get Slavic/Easern European crowds.

[@lagitanavderoscio]

perhaps you could do biographies on events like Hillsborough massacre, Suez Canal, etc. Just don't do 9/11 - i mean I love my home but there are so many 9/11 out there; conspiracy theories, perspectives, etc.

[@lagitanavderoscio]

@George Walker That is why we need eventographics. I never heard of Hillsborough

[@lagitanavderoscio]

@George Walker It's a crowd; a crowd that is not maintained properly. Whether it was the police or others 'the crowds' ' Hillsborough could have been on this list. Thank you for explaining the event.

[@northcliffe4lyfe]

These points keep on contradicting each other...