10 JRPGs that KILLED the Franchise!

[@TimBitten]

Game dev logic: “We’ve done it. We’ve made a universally loved series. Now, we could continue it, OR, just hear me out now...we use the same sprites in an entirely different game and call it a sequel.” *room erupts in applause, promotions fall from sky*

[@arhturcosta4066]

Ironic Doge Series. Tune on Saturdays and Sundays 9:30 PM on Meme Channel

[@slapchop133787]

It could always be worse. My favorite JRPG franchise (Suikoden) got killed by freaking pachinko machines. 😭😭😭

[@Ladywizard]

Have heart... if it's konami they're sweating knowing Japan's cracking down on gambling especially pachinko

[@kstplt8010]

I thought the one destroy it is 4?

[@slapchop133787]

@@kstplt8010 nah, it didn't. 4 wasn't very good, but the one after it was badass. 5 is my 2nd favorite one behind 2.

[@kstplt8010]

@@slapchop133787 Well, because 4 wasn't very good that 5 unable to achieve Konami's expectations. That always what I think, but I never play 4 before so I want to confirm, hahaha.

[@caellanmurphy4751]

K S T P L T 4 is fine wayyy to cutscene heavy having really low lows but soaring highs you swear you were on drugs

[@ChaosNew]

Golden Sun will always be in my heart, it was technically my first RPG, besides the Paper and Mario and Luigi games back in the day. Can't believe the DS game didn't receive the same support, it was not bad, and I hate that we the golden Sun fans ended in a cliffhanger will never see through.

[@sachadossantos7972]

I played dark dawn and I verified that it really was the one I had because I liked it a lot so I was like it's impossible that it could have killed the franchises (well I guess i'm wrong)

[@ChaosNew]

@@sachadossantos7972 Right? 😔

[@Alche_mist]

I came to this video specifically to cry about the fate of my beloved Golden Sun series.

[@marlonmarinay5102]

@@sachadossantos7972 i feel like camelot is just busy to mario sports game they just dont have enough time to create a new golden sun

[@radmaster4970]

This a very interesting topic. I can't believe someone thought that losing HP while walking around was a good idea. Nice video as always!

[@charlestrudel8308]

while running in fact, its still crazy XD, like, I can run longer than these character, I mean WTH xD

[@FFXIK]

He actually missed one other quirk Dragon Song had. The grind, in battle you either gain money *or* exp, not both. You had to toggle between the two while in the field. The game was an absolute chore.

[@mixednuts69]

RIP to Shadow Hearts, Golden Sun and Legaia. So scared for Star Ocean....

[@croissantXYZ]

Star Ocean should be safe for now. Yes Anamnesis Global server is dead (Already feel it won't last long since the first few weeks), but the JP version still alive and I don't think it will die anytime soon

[@elricskye5562]

Star Ocean has just been gutted over the years anyway. I loved Second Story and Til the End of Time (never played the first game). After that, it's just been a slow decline. I wish RPGs would just stop getting rid of classic things, like overworld maps. "Modernizing" games is not always a good thing.

[@bloody4558]

Shadow Hearts didn't really deserve it's fate and neither did Golden Sun. AS for Star Ocean I can't really say that it died, even the last game wasn't a bad game for real, just very disappoining compared to the biggest names out there. And frankly that 5th game was made on an extremely tight budget(the game was originally rejected by Square Enix, so Tri-Ace had to do it with their own money, but they had 0 support for it from anyone else) so I can easily forgive them for that.

[@TheGoldenPS1]

@@bloody4558 Sony just announced Wild Arms servers for the mobile game will shut down in Feb 2020. I have been saying anime art style is killing Sony's JRPGs. Works out for Nintendo but not Sony. I hope they understand that now after 25 years in the business.

[@bloody4558]

@@TheGoldenPS1 what is killing business is the peasant scum. Who only cares about photorealistic graphics and immediately avoid anything that doesn't conform to that art style. The same living garbage that IS slowly killing western animations while populating subpar live action adaptation of same animations. Men children with 0 creativity and ever dwindling intelligence

[@kaberial]

bof 5 killed the series. bof 6 was the final nail

[@blumiu2426]

BoF 6 wasn't a thing. It never existed. I can see how 5 was hard to get into, but I really enjoyed it. Super easy on second playthrough plus you get more story. It was never that bad, people wanted a return to form. VI was by the point Capcom no longer cared about JRPGs.

[@vateok6840]

Unpopular opinion: i like bof 5

[@shenloken2]

As a follow-ip to the breathtaking BoF 4: Dragon Quarter was an insult. The sixth game was just the final joke.

[@Sesomi3601]

@@shenloken2 BoF 5 was Dragon Quarter..... 4 was actually pretty decent.... But yes, you are correct. I bought BoF5 when it came out..... I traded it in for credit about an hour after I bought it.

[@PissedGrunty]

@@vateok6840 It was ok. It wasn't nearly as good as 3/4 to me.

[@Tyran_Trick]

Same here, I played Shadow Hearts from the New World before the others. I loved it, and after completing it I looked it up online, and it turned out the other two were supposed to be much better. Even though I didn't quite believe that. I bought Covenant next. I was blown away. One of the best rpgs I've ever played. Afterwards I finished the first one. I would throw all my money at the remake of the first two, or even a remaster.

[@sevarogue7903]

And I am still crying about the ill-fated destiny of my favourite Shadow Hearts franchise...😢 Sob!!!

[@stefanoblack2221]

I feel you :"( the last traces of it were an interview of its creator back in 2016 when he said he was working on a new game, that he didn't see himself using crowdfunding yet and that at the moment of the interview there were no plans for Shadow Hearts. Except the possibility of a remaster but again, not back at that time... sadly no more news since then as far as I know :c If you haven't already, check this full interview to him if you wish, it's pretty interesting :3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6aumqWvlNGHaNk

[@shadowmaster335]

ikr, i loved covenant, and after i found out it was the second title i tried the first, vastly different mechanics i must say, i just took one look at the third game and was like "nope, ain't gonna play that happy go lucky vibe game"

[@sevarogue7903]

@@shadowmaster335 It's much more darker than people give it credit for, but mostly near the end. Maybe that's the problem?🤔

[@stefanoblack2221]

@@shadowmaster335 I quite agree on that, the first two Shadow Hearts have this weird gothic vibe to it, eastern and western locations, black magic and rituals, it's pretty dark but also humurous cause the characters are so good! The third really is a mixed bag... it probably would have done better if it wasn't called a Shadow Hearts game cause the characters don't hold a candle to Yuri & co. and while the America setting is fun to explore the story isn't as intense as the previous two... a pity really :\

[@stefanoblack2221]

@@sevarogue7903 I think the cast of character is not as strong as the previous two games but in my opinion the villains of this game are just so weak compared to Shadow Hearts and Shadow Hearts Covenant. It's literally a completely silent girl and a douchebag with red hair ._.

[@tardigrade9343]

To be fair, what killed Breath of Fire wasn't part 6, it was part 5. 6 was just a lame attempt to get money out of its corpse.

[@Ubu90]

we do NOT speak of the 6th one

[@aathanraan8819]

Yeah, 3 was their peak. It just went downhill from there.

[@kangtaw]

Word this

[@DreamyDawnMusic]

Wierdly enough i loved Dragon Quarter and found the story really apealing for its time. I can understand the hate for the battle mechanics but tbh i didn´t had much to play back then so i had what i had and this was really good :) I still love the first 3 games better (haven´t played IV yet but looking into that) The 6th one......yeah i fully agree! It should never have been

[@kyotheman69]

Dragon Quarter was garbage, i hated that game so much, whole having restart adventure over and over drove me nuts, if you going make it like Majora mask, then do it in better way

[@Genethagenius]

The original “Legend of Legaia” had SUCH an amazing and fun battle system that I’m seriously surprised that we haven’t received another title in the series or at least a spiritual successor!

[@keonhobgood1551]

2 wasn’t that bad I loved both

[@suiken3149]

@@keonhobgood1551 The lack of pokemon mechanics on 2 killed it for me. Collecting Seru was such a fun mechanic.

[@Genethagenius]

Keon Hobgood I’ll have to give 2 a second look. I loved the first Legaia game though and it is one of the few JRPG’s I’ve played through multiple times. (And I agree with the other commenter, 2 was sadly missing the Pokémon-mechanics of Seru collecting!)

[@kennethfelipe823]

I love you 2 better but one was so good.

[@C_The_Guy]

Dont sleep on 2... they were both great games in my book.

[@Jay6x]

Lufia II is perhaps my absolute favorite JRPG of all time. It was definitely a shame to see it turned into an action rpg, and just... a completely different game. ;_;

[@BigBrotherGnE]

If you don't get 100,000+ subscribers within the next few months, I'll need to riot and smack someone senseless. Great seeing you posting as always. How is life with you?

[@gabrielpatten6939]

Me seeing title of video: "he better talk about BOF 6!"

[@bawanafox251]

Agree, I really hate Lunar dragon Song, it kill the Lunar series franchise.

[@WiiSage]

i knew breath of fire would be number 1, one of my fav jrpg series, still have a working bof 3 original disc

[@ReaveIdono]

I miss Breath Of Fire soooooo much. It was on the same level as Final Fantasy and Tales of Series for me.

[@RoboBoddicker]

I have a broken original bof 3 disc D:

[@crazykenbei]

@@RoboBoddicker same

[@rensro2138]

It was expected but I loved Lunar more, so Dragon Song is number 1 for me but yeah BOF changed to survival horror

[@kyotheman69]

series died when Dragon Quarter came out, BOF6 was just lifting and playing around with the corpse

[@remreanimated4640]

Thanks for the video. :) I really wish they would make a Golden Sun 4. Although I did have some complaints about 3, mostly about all the points of no return I still would gladly play another Golden Sun game. D: It is a shame companies will often just decide a series is dead and no one wants it anymore if a title flops instead trying to figure out why fans didn't didn't like a particular entry. D:

[@charlestrudel8308]

in the case of nintendo, this company is trapped between doing its old IPs, or doing new ones. at this moment, I think nintendo has at least 25 ips? Thats a lot, And I'm pretty sure that's why some of them just dont come back for more than 10 years. We may have the same problem with square / enix, all the other companies don't have this problem thought, so I really dont know.

[@thencsmaster4343]

The only reason Dark Dawn made Golden Sun dormant was cause of its AWFUL release date and the fact that it had ZERO marketing. The game came out only 2 and a half months before the 3DS. Golden Sun deserves another chance

[@MrEcoho]

kind of late here but thats not the only reason, the forced using of the touch controls was kind of a giant middle finger to older players who didnt like that feature on the DS due to its issues with working at times. this lead to people disliking the game which in turn made the game less popular through word of mouth.

GoldenSun Ds is a very good game!

[@MrGaiakid]

wait, Breath of fire 6? 5 killed the franchise, 6 burned the body and pissed on the ashes

[@paperluigi6132]

1 and 2 are available on SNES online. Should I give them a go?

[@MrMatt0486]

Do it! 2 has aged better and has some really fun town building elements. That's my recommendation.

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

I love playing Shadow Hearts FTNW back in ps2 era...in my mind i always thought it as spin off more than main title.....i kinda remember that i want to get stepped on by Slim Hilda...oh man..was i that perverted back in the days

[@henrytownshend6441]

It is a spin-off technically there was suppose to be another game that was a prequel to the first 2

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

@@henrytownshend6441 yeah! Thats what i thought! Cuz there's no character from the last game! Well aside from Keith which is a cameo..i cant remember much it was long time ago

[@henrytownshend6441]

@@GamerConnoisseurRei good memory though

[@pauljones327]

was both keith and his brother grand papillion also you for about the eternal star child roger bacon

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

@@pauljones327 oh yeah the silver bat right? Roger too! Stuck in Area 51 🤣 and Lenny also a cameo character from Shadow Hearts: Covenant too

[@Valancet]

Just here in the comments to pay respects to the Star Ocean 2 music.

[@kyotheman69]

star ocean will be on this list soon enough, series has gone down hill since 3rd game, i know people liked it, but it had warning signs it was get worse

[@timbermaniac5756]

Sony obviously has shit taste in jrpgs. They stumble upon something good like Dragoon or Legaia and abandon it. I think Dragon Quarter + BOF6 killed the franchise. It had ceased being what everyone loved about the series, from the colorful characters and art to transformations. Hell. I was even a fan of the fishing minigames.

[@demetriuspowell29]

Nobody really supported those game's that's why we'll most likely never see a remaster or remake

[@isaacrodriguez9960]

@@demetriuspowell29 Yikes ultimately true but I heard rumors blueprint games is said to maybe want to develop legend of dragoon remastered.

[@demetriuspowell29]

@@isaacrodriguez9960 you mean remake

[@leegaul2161]

@@isaacrodriguez9960 Which makes me skeptical as they do almost exclusively action adventure. If it's a remaster then, it'll just be a prettier more refined version of the original. If it's a remake, then we are getting something like Shadow of the Colossus but with dragons....so Skyrim...but with Addition quick-time events.

[@JoaoVictor-hh9dx]

Dragon Quarter Killed it, BoF6 is just a money grab they used the BoF brand for extra cash.

[@Wingedspace22]

Star Ocean is close to death and Wild Arms died after the last game

[@mitsudafanni7978]

Star Ocean died after Til The End of Time retroactively destroyed the integrity of the series storylines. None of the followups could be taken seriously with how SO3 ruined the universe.

[@Wingedspace22]

@@mitsudafanni7978 truth!!

[@kaylevy7107]

@@mitsudafanni7978 Nope. That was SO4. 3 Was great. Wouldn't be listed on Greatest Hits if it wasn't.

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

Paper Mario Sticker Star is the 1st that comes to my mind that marked the destruction of a series to me.

[@Lamasis2]

Sticker Star isn't a jrpg.

[@jojonta2119]

@@Lamasis2 Yeah it is

[@Lamasis2]

@@jojonta2119 No, it's not.

[@jojonta2119]

@@Lamasis2 How? It's an rpg (just barely) and it's japanese. Jrpg.

[@Lamasis2]

@@jojonta2119 For me it isn't a rpg, you don't level and fights are needless. For me it needs at least leveling to be considered a rpg. But nevermind, we shouldn't be discussing if it is a rpg or not, because it's garbage, nothing more.

[@rykernugent6176]

Real OG mentioning Vandal hearts. Such a great and epic game. Never got past 20 minutes of Vandal Hearts 2 tho.

[@geoffreychauvin1474]

Game Arts may not have been involved in Lunar on the DS but Japan Arts Media was who was also heavily involved in the previous entries. A lot of Lunar’s charm came from working designs and from the presentation which DS lacked. Having animated cutscenes would have gone a long way. Also the abomination of a battle system didn’t help either. So I can’t select my enemies and I have to scream into the mic to escape. What the hell man...

[@jogymogy3691]

I miss Golden Sun so much :(

[@malicekingofshadows]

You forgot the best part of the lufia remake (sarcasm) suicide leveling why grind wean you can jump off the stage repeatedly in the tutorial to reach max lv. Wish I was joking but the grinding was so bad at times that suicide grinding saved you a lot of hassle.

[@lshanksy1]

Grandia should on here somewhere, so sad that there's not much chance of another one

[@allissonpereira9640]

My favorite Vandal Hearts 1 and 2 music at the beginning!! Auto - thumbs up

[@reyntime1950]

White Knight Chronicles was awesome. Wish the geonet was up and this was playable on ps4.

[@lukaszk8511]

About Vandal heart Judgment this game wasnt even finished it had an ending but well no comments

[@robbg6928]

What killed the Chrono series?

[@charlestrudel8308]

nothing, unless chrono cross was not a sufficient success.

[@takehirolol5962]

The Chrono series? What else is to tell? There is no more story. Just imagine such mounstruosity to have a complete remake with the Unreal Engine...It will sell, but to develop?

[@claire6452]

Reaching too high from the start. A bit like Golden Sun 2. Where do you go from there? You can't beat Chrono Trigger in a Chrono-type game, and you sure as hell can't make a GS as good as GS2 was.

[@rizkaarifiandi5670]

the bar they set it too high themselves

[@rensro2138]

Chrono Cross... way different game. Was a lot of fun but didn't have the charm as Trigger for me, a lot of my more casual gamer friends didn't finish it because they didn't like it but they loved Chrono Trigger.

[@blaire4115]

To be fair, much of this franchises were never THAT popular to begin with. And some of them were already long dead when games from this list were released (like Vandal Hearts, Lunar and Breath of Fire)

[@ReaveIdono]

I don't know about the other two but Breath Of Fire still had garnered a lot of hype until Dragon Quarter. That game was incredibly ass!!!

[@blaire4115]

@@ReaveIdono True. But that was more than 15 years ago. Breath of Fire 6 was released in 2016 only in Japan and i personnaly didnt even know or care about it really by then.

[@ReaveIdono]

@@blaire4115 Well of course. That's thanks to Dragon Quarter imo.

[@foxyman9449]

I feel like Lufia: Ruins of Lore was the true killer of the franchise. Even though it wasn't the last game to come out, it came out years before Curse of the Sinistrals with generic combat and a disconnected story with bland characters. Every RPG player I knew despised the game. Great video!

[@callak_9974]

I bought that game! And yes, it was very disappointing. Other than being set in the same world, it was like, bland. I don't even recall if there was Sinistrals in it, that's how boring it was.

[@kurniapermadi9424]

Erick have you already played Fire Emblem Three Houses? Kinda want to know your thoughts about that game

[@theflashgordon193]

pretty sure he did I want though too

[@thebladeofchaos]

The problem with Dark Dawn was it came at the end of the DS era. it was pretty much sent out to die as opposed to holding off for the 3DS (which to be fair I can't 100% blame) while it had a legend to follow up, and did a damn good job for itself, it did things that Golden sun avoided actively. Points of no return where you can't go back in a game where you have to hunt for something to make yourself stronger is a TERRIBLE choice. otherwise, it's not a bad game. it's a good one, and it's a shame really

[@Hayastantzi92]

16:17 then play some Covenant of the Plume, i never get tired of playing it

[@TheSeriousSentinel]

I love Golden Sun, but DD didn’t do the franchise any favors. For me, it’s main problem is that it is a way too easy. I never once died while playing the game. I beat every boss on the first try, including secret bosses.

[@MathGeekQ]

Same, I beat Dullahan on my first try too. I tried playing it a 2nd time a hacked rom just to reduce the EXP gain to half, and I still didn't die a single time! Except against the final boss, had to level up a bit.

[@ancientrune1674]

please never call that last game on the list Breath of Fire ever again

[@moisescorral8297]

Ooh. Alliance Alive is in the intro. Nice.

[@rtlstien]

There was a game I watched a friend of mine play briefly back when I was 9 or 10. I couldn't for the life of me recall what the game was called. 20 years later that game still pops up in my memory from time to time, and only now do I finally have a name for that game - Alundra 2! The visuals of the game in this video ticked something in the back of my head, and reading the plot on Wikipedia, I can confirm it's the one based solely on the magical wind-up keys element. The scene of that giant key falling onto a whale and changing it is what I still remember all these years later. Thank you for finally helping me put to rest a question I've had for two decades.

[@connorwaltman4966]

Anyone here wants an HD Remaster of the Lunar games? (excluding Dragon Song)

[@HelvecioGomes]

I never played legaia 2, legaia 1 was an amazing game and my very first rpg game.

[@mightymanatee5342]

Legaia 2 is terrible by comparison. The third character you get is literally unusable in battle for three whole areas and the difficulty spikes are ridiculous!

[@ReaveIdono]

I thought Legaia 2 was really good!!!

[@IWfoxhound]

I only played the second one I liked it a lot a specially the battle system, plus a funny story with a light-heartedness too it that made it a good relaxing playthrough

[@Onbosh]

Played it. Liked it because of Legaia 1 nostalgia mostly. If you're a true legaia fan you will be ok with it. Still a total disappointment though. The switch to not having loads of monsters (seru) to absorb as summons for magic was a total let down. Retreading the craptastic sewers was also a giant piece of dung.

[@mikeg5039]

Golden sun was so good it needs a new one. Also legaia 1 deserved a remaster or total remake more than even ff7 did

[@user-qd9rg3wy2n]

"end of darkness" more like a beginning

[@windwaker0rules]

lunar dragon song, why is it people mention that you lose hp from sprinting and only in the speedrun that people mention that running away from battle required blowing into the microphone that is the funniest mechanic ever!

[@jonathynmurray7537]

Still hoping for another golden sun I actually really liked it and I'm a full fledged Golden Sunner 😂😂

[@andrewtaylor940]

How did Grandia III not make this list?

[@TrishaHeron]

so happy someone mentioned it in the comments....

[@BlackFantasy470]

I really liked to see a fourth Shadow Hearts because its gameplay was special with the Judgement Ring. I played the third game first and it was fun. I also own the second game and Koudelka but only a copied disc of the first game I got from a former classmate. I liked their story as well so I won't say the third wasn't as good. On the contrary the third game had the best soundtrack. I always get chills when I listen to Lady Tears (the final boss music)

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

Me too!! I kinda want to play right now.....but i dont have pc 😭

[@pite9]

What? I found the music of the 3rd to be really lacking by comparison. Lady Tears is great, but I prefer both 3 Karma and Battle with Astaroth from the 2nd game. Overall, battle themes is a strong point of the 3rd, but I still think the first two games are comparable or better in this regard. On top of that, the 1st game have so many great edgy and mysterious songs. Psycho Temple, Castle of Silence, Coffin Fetish, Ripper Ripper, Wind Which Blows from the Dark, Angel Heart, Bloody Kitchens, Much Hatred Still Rankles. The 2nd game is a bit weaker in this regard, but still solid, and it makes up for it by having a better depth of great emotional/sad songs, like Faith or Fate, The Fate, Kallen (Karin's theme). Both games also have top tier town and overworld themes. The 3rd game for me really lacks stand out songs. The mysterious songs took an even bigger step back in terms of amount and quality, and the emotional songs are not up to par with the 2nd game. The town themes are forgettable. Will, Fragmentation and Living Sacrifice are some of the few that stands out to me.

[@KayderimGameplays]

Funny enough, Shadow hearts from the new world is my favorite in the series since it's so light-hearted compared to the other 2, and i liked Franky even if he was braindead, and the final boss with that OST and Lady screaming was just beautiful. Covenant had an amazing story but i never feel the need to play the game again since i had completed 100%, but i completed FTNW multiple times because i was really enjoying it. It does have some improvements in gameplay compared to Covernant and much better graphics / animations, and the boss battle (Le Gran Luxe) was my favorite in the series.

[@faidou9954]

Honestly, I still don't get the hate behind Action Jrpgs, it's not like there's no strategy involved in them. You ever tried button mashing in Monster Hunter?

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

Yeah....try that in front of Rathalos face....and see you get obliterated by it 🤣

[@Grnvolpe]

Most JRPG fans love both turn-based and action JRPGs but when a turn-based franchise that people have grown to love switch into action it rubs them the wrong way

[@demetriuspowell29]

@@Grnvolpe exactly

[@musiclover01ization]

I don't get it either. I prefer ARPGs over turn-based games.

[@Guitarherowned]

@@GamerConnoisseurRei Or odogaron. But if you can somehow manage to get a good mid air crit strike to Rathalos face, it'll start screeching like a wounded bat and come toppling to the ground lol.

[@FoxmarineGaming]

Currently doing a playthrough of Alundra 2 and your comment is spot on. Like it should have been named something else and it would probably do well. But since it was connected to Alundra, people already had that expectation. :(

[@CynicalGamingBlogTerry309]

What about Grandia 3? I know the creator's death kinda affected the series but Grandia 3 was kinda the last attempt to keep the series relevant but it ended up being the last game in the series.

[@demetriuspowell29]

Grandia 3. Had the best battle system the story was forgettable tho

[@mariefurukawa2627]

Shadow Heart FTNW is a spin-off that isn't part of the main story - it was meant to just fill time before the actual Shadow Hearts 3 which would follow Yuri's father's battle before the first game and was in development but cancelled when Nautilus' parent company was bought out and they were dissolved, and all development was focused on Pachinko machines. There were even pachinko machines with new stories, so FTNW isn't even technically the last Shadow Hearts game made.

[@matthiassneyers2627]

Alundra II was amazing, should have gotten a different name.. same for Breath of Fire: dragon quarter. Both amazing games. But wrong name. White knight chronicles was amazing, my favorite game. Sadly they wanted to make it into an MMORPG and keeping online servers open was way to expensive for them. That's why they had to close of the multiplayer, that's what killed it IMO. Still worth playing for the story.. Still waiting for a dark cloud III.

[@theresayy]

Yeah, I liked WKC, the ending was kind of a WTF?! moment, but the rest was decent. I heard the post-credit To Be Continued was supposed to be a story DLC on your character, sadly it never got released :(

[@matthiassneyers2627]

@@theresayy yeah, it only got released in Japan.. sadly.. I loved WKC.

[@WorentFelix]

And it is a reason why CAPCOM was Americanized moving away not only from BoF games but from all its arcade games and consoles that made it famous in the 90's, no more Street Fighter, no more Resident Evils, no more Monster Hunter games.

[@samuelmendez7398]

The loss of Shadow Hearts still bother me till this day😔 Hopefully they sell the IP and we can see the series revived

[@forevermagus7706]

Would be awesome. Personally I'd be happy if they got ported to ps4/ps5. Wanna get them trophies hahaha

[@ShiroKatagari]

As a kid, the plot twist to the first Vandal Hearts game totally blew my mind. The moment I finished it, I went back through it all over again. The second one is really good too - once you get a feel for how the AI is going to act each turn, it almost becomes too easy. Flames of Judgement, though, was slow and tedious, and took too long to establish it's characters (such as they were) meaning most people didn't feel inclined to perservere with it.

[@strictlynineties]

Are the stories of each Vandal Hearts games connected? In other words, could I skip the first game and go straight to VH2?

[@user-zr4dg3xq2u]

Agreed on the Shadow Hearts series. The first two were really good (second one was the best imo) but the 3rd one didn't really do the series justice. It's a good game on its own but it doesn't feel like it fits into the series. Also, imo I thought Koudelka was pretty good too. It is a short game and the battle system is slow but if you give it a chance, it is good and the soundtrack is great too.

[@Raximus3000]

I think the fact that they removed Yuri as the main character was the reason it failed, that guy was a badass and had an interesting though cliche backstory, not to mention his ability was amazing!!! This is what the protagonist should be like, a special fit for every tactic you can think off!

[@bretginn1419]

Here's how I see it: Covenant > From The New World > Shadow Hearts And we don't talk about Koudelka. That was an awful game.

[@rizkaarifiandi5670]

how about Wild ARMs ? XF is not a bad game IMHO, but they killed it anw lol

[@alansmilealot]

I'm playing it now, only a few levels in and I like the tactics gameplay more. Story is a lil slow at the moment

[@the13thjoker]

Legaia 1 : Open world map, Fast combat, tons of magic, good story. Legaia 2 : Not open world map, slow combat, only few useless magic, annoying difficulty spike, average story but have cooking system, crafting system, variabel arts.

[@the13thjoker]

@@loto5919 It is linear but it still open world map. Legend of legaia (legaia 1) combat is faster compared with legaia 2. In legaia 2 all of the character take at last 3 second just performing 1 arts. Not to mention in legaia 2 every time your main character defeating enemy or get defeated by enemy, there is always 1 second animation.

[@Daniel_Coffman]

I'd like to see a video opposite this one; RPG's that revived dying or previously-dead franchises; if there are any RPG's in that category. I don't think I'd include RPG sequels that pushed their whole series into more mainstream status like Persona 3-5, though; unless they still revived a dying or dead franchise.

[@phabiorules]

Fire Emblem awakening is one. The franchise was on life support, so they added a ton of features that they always wanted to with the expectation that it would be the last game. Insteas it blew up, and become one of Nintendo's most pushed franchises.

[@pondypoo]

I absolutely loved SH1 and SH2, I fell deeply in love with Yuri's lore and Alice. And suddenly, we're transported to New York to follow a Tidus looking mother fucker trying to solve petty crimes. Don't get me wrong, the game's still really fun, but I just want that gothic atmosphere back. Remember in SH1 when Yuri+Alice were trapped in a cannibal ghost village, that was spooky

[@haseoxv9508]

I would say Johnny is freaking boring for MC like wow even more boring than Vaan lmao

[@PervertedNovaxc3]

@@haseoxv9508 This is probably really late, but I thought Johnny was fine for a protagonist. I always thought he was meant to be the straight man, reacting to all the really crazy shit that goes on throughout the game. Heck they even worked it into the gameplay a bit since Johnny has the absolutely lowest sanity, with only Ricardo being about as low or lower, which makes sense.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

For Lufia II, making it into an action RPG wasn't even the worse. Completely changing the story was kinda pointless, since it kinda defeat the purpose of a remake, but sure, why not. It's not starting well, though... But replacing the amazing puzzles of the original by stupid, mindless QTE? Now that's really the final nail on the coffin. It's really a perfect example of how to not make a remake.

[@PikangsFutaba]

I felt it more like a reboot of sorts, sure, I enjoyed it to be honest, but... Clearely it lost the charm of the original game and cannot be considered a remake with those changes (the puzzles being changed was a big not OK, as the rest was "well, not what I expect but... is tolerable"). But speaking of story changes, the New Game + ending was unexpected for me (and also more like a what if of sorts).

[@EscaVODS]

Golden Sun: Dark Dawn main problem was that it should have spent more years in dormancy to wait for the release of Nintendo 3DS. The DS essentially limited the game's potential. The graphics were amazing, and possibly the best in that console, the music is amazing, the plot was thick and interesting too

[@ZurielMana]

Erick! Hola hermano. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@edcastillo2973]

White knight had SO much potential. Smh

[@reyntime1950]

An actual multiplayer lvl5 square Enix jrpg on ps3 and everyone hated it. It's among my favorite games of all time. Pity... Just as you get your own knight. Wish we got part 3. I really wanted to see what happened next in the story.

[@paulkinder8440]

It's sad to see game series destroying a game franchise. Sometimes some games series, do end up becoming alittle stale. So ending a franchise is the sensible thing to do. Trying something new can often alienate some fans of a series. It's difficult for development teams at times, they're damned if they do or damned if they don't try to implement some changes.

[@awatkhalid9091]

i love how blunt you are in your videos , so real. keep it up!!!

[@psycholuigiman]

Lufia 2 remake goes action RPG: Gets critically destroyed and blamed for ending the franchise Final Fantasy 7 (part 1) remake goes action RPG: Gets game of the year and eager anticipations for the rest of the game to release years down the road. Yeah that makes sense

[@MrStress]

well informed and passionate take. Its sad that people just give up on a franchise rather than just take the message and go back to what worked the first time. some of them aren't even TRYING.

[@akoyisangpinoy4705]

how to kill a franchise? turn it to an action rpg. i'm talking about you final fantasy.

[@foxmulder4318]

lol. FF7 remake battle system kinda resembles Ehrgeiz, so...

[@musiclover01ization]

Nah, Final Fantasy is still very popular despite what you say.

[@MrSpectralfire]

I enjoyed 15. I just wish the 2nd half was as fleshed out as the first half.

[@foxmulder4318]

@@musiclover01ization Yes, it is still popular. It does help to have a three decade plus lifespan. From your statement you seem to say it is beyond criticism. Something popular doesn't make it great always. Branding does quite a bit for a franchise.

[@Aranethify]

I played shadow hearts in order and I loved every single one of then. There was no reason to continue with the same characters, I think their stories end just fine in the second part. To me the third one was pretty refreshing.

[@Ubu90]

we dont talk about bof6, no one talks about it,

[@vvolfflovv]

One day all of our favorite franchises will return... Wait for it... For IOS in Japan!

[@jaruakijal3128]

Not for Suikoden 😢

[@vvolfflovv]

@Most Deadest Pool of em All. lol

[@vvolfflovv]

@@darkfyraproductions7958 FF Dim was decent. I have a few ports like FFT and Secret of Mana too but I feel like I'd be better off just getting an snes emulator

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

I thought Xenosaga II would be in the list. Didn't exactly kill the franchise, but got so much backlash they changed their plans for 6 games to only 3.

[@99nerka]

Let's be honest BoF 5 killed the series. BoF 6 was just beating dead body with a stick.

[@PikangsFutaba]

Yeah, a lot of stuff went wrong with Dragon Quarter (5), but the main feature of the series (transform in a Dragon) was more like a punishment mechanic than a good power up, having to think (literally) EVERY SINGLE MOVE during battles AND outside of the battles was bad already, and EVEN MORE the limited saves (what was Capcom thinking about that aspect of the game... on Resident Evil 1-3 or whar?! (just to name some examples of Capcom games with limited saves back then)).

[@99nerka]

@@PikangsFutaba Yeah my mind was blown when i've realised i just lost the game since i dared to transform 1 time too many.

[@RadishDoctor]

Wild Arms? I see that it did get a mobile game released in 2018 (A generic Gatcha game) , but I don't really feel that counts because it's not an original production. Not counting that the previous one was Wild Arms XF in 2007 (A PSP game) and the last home-console was a remaster of the original Wild Arms Alter-F for PS2

[@lyricalmage]

That thing abiout changing from traditional JRPG to action apply to Ni no Kuni? I'm not sure...

[@astralwyrm3787]

More changing from monster collector to not? correct me if I'm wrong because I didn't play it; but the removal of the genre of the first game of collecting/battling monsters killed my interest in the second. Worse I recall the developer/s saying they chose to make that change because the game was successful in the west. >.> This is what we call backward logic.

[@lyricalmage]

@@astralwyrm3787 Not sure what you mean, but I think we are not in the same channel, I meant the change from the original DS game (which never came to the west, mind you), and was a traditional JRPG in contrast to the PS3 version, which is a semi action RPG. But in regards to what you said, I was kind of disappointed they removed the familiar system, the PS3 game has a system with a lot of potential, but also needed lots of polishing, and in the second Ni no Kuni rather than working in the flaws of the system, they decided to give up and came up with something more similar to Kingdom Hearts (a pure action RPG). it's not bad I tell you, it's very fluid and polished, but it lacks the charming uniqueness of the first one, and adding the mediocre over the top corny plot the second has in contrast to the moving and personal plot of the first one it's just insult to injury, I think the actual reason they removed the familiar system from Ni no Kuni it's because Level5 already had Yokai Watch and wanted to center their efforts of monster battling system there. Anyways, Ni no Kuni 2 it's not a bad game, it's plot is really what drags it down.

[@vDorgengoa]

And I loved WKC..... but I did play them both together though.

[@skyMcWeeds]

Personally I think Star Ocean the Last Hope killed the Star Ocean series but Integrity and Faithlessness just competely buried it

[@supersonicmario56]

I thought Last Hope was pretty good. What I thought killed the series was Till the End of Time, with that plot twist . . .

[@Mitsux31]

IMHO, Alundra 2 is super great!

[@solidxangryjoer4233]

I loved White Knight Chronicles 2, especially online. Man I spend at least about 300 hours into it. 2010 was a great year and it helped me also through some stress like moving weekly almost, always had a way to calm down with this game. And Legaia 2 was such a great game for me, I think I was about 7-9 years old to that time. I couldn't even read or properly understand english so I had to ask my cousin who finished economics school to that time what the hell the conversations were about.

[@MichaelGarcia-fl7rz]

Shadow hearts covenant and growlanser are two of my all time favorite series can’t believe we probably won’t ever get another game ever again heartbreaking truly.

[@KnucklestheEcidna]

stop lying would ya. Golden Sun is NOT a dead franchise. the main developer of the franchise stated that creating a new story for the game takes time and will indeed happen if there is enough demand for it. all we need to do is have a lot of PATIENCE. this was stated shortly after Isaac got revealed as assist trophy in Smash Bros Ultimate a mere 2 years ago. Conduct deeper research into the games you're presenting.

[@caelum1156]

Legaia 2 was one of the first JRPGs I played to completion. It and Final Fantasy X were the reasons I begged my dad to buy me a PS2. I remember pouring hundreds of hours into it and talking about the game with my cousins on the weekend all the time. Legaia 2 holds a special place in my heart for that alone. So to find out no one in the classic JRPG circle really liked nor cared about the game was shocking to say the least.

[@fahadalghamdi9316]

I actually loved the "weird-ass experiment" that is BOF 5. The ideas behind it could have been so much more interesting if they could be developed better. 6 on the other hand, was a catastrophe.

[@markgerardenano5534]

Bof5 sucks who the hell wants there hero to die fast. Haahah

[@vollkerball1]

10:00 ther lack of sinc betewen image and sound was the real deal breaker for me...

[@helmeiragames]

The saddest part of all this is that Final Fantasy isn't dead despite XV being total garbage. And VII Remake chanced the battle system completely too. It's Amazing how Final Fantasy still lives while others, much better franchises(Xenosaga, Shadow Hearts, Breath of Fire, .Hack// just to name a few) are gone. Nice video.

[@Stonegoal]

RIP Breath of Fire And I thought Breath of Fire Quarter(5) was going to kill it.

[@bobsamurai]

Mobile games are where franchises go to die. It’s a shame that the creator of final fantasy is creating mobile games with mistwalker studio instead of creating full length console/pc rpgs

[@charlestrudel8308]

Last story was our last chance I guess in that regard... truly their last story this time...

[@ct2651]

@@darkfyraproductions7958 until that kind of game is illegal i mean

[@christianscellerato5193]

Every single game this guy hates he admits he's never played, or never played much, wtf?

[@Zenaltra]

Came to see Arc the Lad: End of Darkness, and of course there it is. That game was a travesty.

[@jimwhite2049]

They didn't kill the series, the series was already dying, they just didn't manage to save it.

[@Aryanisme]

Alundra 2 ?! Are you serious right now ?

[@christianprincedebates6740]

Ya know, Capcom can pull of remakes of the first 2 breath of fire games. I mean look what gamearts did with grandia, it could be done

[@Tython82]

What about Wild Arms? Your right they also got a mobile game but I have heard nothing about the series since and even that mobile game is only in Japan.

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

As much as I do not think it was a bad game, Chrono Cross's reception and sales made Square stop making games for what should have been one of their flagship franchises for years. Easily one of gaming's biggest headscratchers, in my opinion.