10 KPOP Groups That Are Flopping in Korea But Are Popular Overseas

[@helenasouza9196]

Dreamcatcher is just everything a k-pop group should be. Unique, talented, beautiful, well managed, no scandals, members get along on a professional and personal level, dedicated, hard-working, there's clearly a good relationship between employer and employees, all the members are responsible and committed to the group, their live skills and stage presence are just unmatched, their experience in performing these crazy and elaborates dances while live singing shines through. It's Korea's loss really. I'm happy DC is pretty stable overseas and doing just fine turning a profit good enough for the company to keep them afloat and the members to continue to do the work.

[@lee.chaeri06]

yesss!!!

[@yes_hunny]

yes i agree! i became a fan just this year because i had never heard of them before and it's such a shame because they are so talented and charismatic! i wish i could have gone on their tour, i only found about it when it started

[@moongirl8807]

Ksomnies are getting more every comeback, we need to work more with them. We have to be careful not to alienate them, some are (rightfully) annoyed that we always talk like they don't exist. Dreamcatcher was nugu, and it was probably hard for rock fans to find them bc they weren't even thinking of looking into kpop.

[@asmft2809]

They deserve all the love, they have everything they're sweet, Real they Never Fake who they really are and most importantly they're very talented, i Hope they get what they deserve.... Stan Dreamcatcher Always ❤️

[@darkmike7983]

I started listening to kpop a couple months ago, and Dreamcatcher was one of the first groups I was recommended and now I stan them.

[@tiawasneverhere7696]

it’s great that now ateez is finally getting more and more recognition in korea and international. i’m so proud of them

[@our_verse96]

Yes I’m proud of them! They work really hard to show their creative musics and I hope more people can see their talent in korea & overseas💙

[@hevxhev]

Me too ❤

[@swaggaqueen0391]

Same!!

[@reginanyirubugara4428]

youre not alone... the fact that for the next tour brussels were sold out in seconds with the presale alone with the capacity of 40k is insane... amsterdam is nearly sold out with the capacity op 17k...... damn it is insane to see how ateez was touring in small arenas in 2019 but is now able to fill the biggest arenas now damn this is very impressive

[@CocoOT8]

So proud of them. I get emotional every time I see how far they’ve come. That clip of Captain asking if anyone was going to come, and then having it cut to a sold out arena. Oof 😭😭😭😭

[@santoshsharma483]

Dreamcatcher not being appreciated in their own home country is down right criminal. Kpop world is stagnant and groups like Dreamcatcher are a breath of fresh air. Dreamcatcher is the DREAM.

[@shovelfvce3781]

Dreamcatcher is such a great group!!! Hurts my heart that Korea doesn't love em like the rest of us do.

[@moongirl8807]

It's getting way more in SK, they had their first awards and win this year. We can only dream of what will happen the next years if the support keeps growing...

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

I think one thing about Dreamcatcher.. they don't have many casual fans. If you Stan them, you REALLY stan them.

[@darkmike7983]

I agree. I started listening to them a couple months ago and now I stan them

[@haringalikabok5642]

I agree with this. You can stan DC with just their MUSIC. Other aspects are just bonus unlike other mainstream ggs that have fans because of hype and visuals lol

[@GLawSomnia]

@@haringalikabok5642 i really agree with this statement. I am one of those fans who is in for the music and i consider everything else as a bonus

[@multinsomnia5455]

That's so true, they're the full package! But we appreciate casual fans too :)

[@StarlitSeafoam]

Found them because of their music, stanned them because of their homemade MVs for Break the Wall and Sahara 😆

[@jessi5288]

Monsta X has had a growing fanbase in Korea these days. Especially amongst college students…

[@Cantonesecubanalee]

I am monbebe both Kmonbebe and IntlMonbebe and been here since debut they have been through so much but are so talent and I am so proud they are getting so much shine!!!!!!!

[@vixxexo6855]

Monsta X may not be as famous as Seventeen, Exo and BTS in Korea, but they are still stable there and known. Many idols look up to Monsta X and many do covers of their songs. The same can also be said to Stray Kids now. Both Monsta X, GOT7 and Stray Kids may have bigger fandom internationally, but they are still known in Korea just not the same level as BTS, Seventeen and Exo.

[@tb9441]

@@vixxexo6855 but they're not flopping like this video suggests so

[@tb9441]

MX themselves have said they've reached a career peak and Kihyun said he just cashed his biggest paycheck since he started 8 YEARS AGO

[@jurionmx]

@@tb9441 definitely not 😃

[@514toinfinity]

Monsta X are far away from being flop in korea. I've been mbb since 2017 and comparing to 2022, they have become very popular! South Korea is one of the top countries streaming their music according to data analysis this year. It's true that they've been more popular internationally but past 1-2 year, they have grown a big fanbase in korea. Pretty annoyed that some of you never keep up with them always underestimate them.

[@rookie_s]

Everyone boycott LOONA's upcoming comeback, it does not support the girls, only the company.

[@laneydelacoithe8379]

#boycott loona

[@Castformsupremacy]

Yep, Loona has revealed many time that they doesn’t even get paid But with the situation going on now I don’t even think they would have a comeback since 9 of the members are literally sued BBC And when BBC said that the girls from Loona are preparing for a comeback Hyunjin literally said “what comeback?” Lmao And I think Hyunjin is currently too busy to file a lawsuit and Vivi is a foreigner so it is harder for her Hopefully everyone leaves that damm company

[@jksws1234]

Please pin this

[@saaliym]

don’t tune into MV & Album dont stream song… only on SoundCloud don’t engage with main sns loona accs

[@ONLY1JAYJAY]

YOO, ANOTHER CUB?

[@danygomstan]

Monsta X has been growing their kr fanbase for years now and they recently had 70k people fighting for tickets to their Seoul concert... They're very stable right now to the point that they've reached career highs even when most groups generally slow down.

[@getlucky7452]

Dreamcatcher is my favorite girl group That have songs in different genres and all of them are bop People should really give some attention to them KARD is the K-pop group which still keeps me in kpop fandom they are so talented and unique

[@claomd]

Monsta X has been growing slowly but very steady in Korea at the moment! Last concert in Seoul there was like 70K people fighting to get tickets on the presale, so they're getting more recognition gladly

[@ldive]

As they should, they're so funny AND their music is amazing

[@imdemonic2393]

Yes, it's great to know they have a fanbase that is growing steadily in Korea...

[@tiredbylife.5589]

I just want GOT7, The Rose, Dreamcatcher and KARD to blow in SK as well 😭😭😭

[@colorcyannne]

the rose

[@moongirl8807]

Dreamcatcher is getting more attention in SK now! Will probably still take another few years but it's way better than at the beginning.

[@cubsgirl101]

GOT7 is pretty big in SK even if they’re more popular abroad. They’re probably right under NCT in levels of popularity and have some of the most listened to songs from 3rd Gen on streaming platforms.

[@casualsuede]

I think you meant to say "blow up". When something "blows" it usually means "it sucks".

[@poushaldas7897]

We have literally a great fanbase of Dreamcatcher here in India! We are in top 3 of most watched countries who watched Dreamcatcher !

[@ruchijha6998]

I hope so. Cause I don't know any other Somnias apart from my sister here

[@diya489]

Let's support DC more 💪🥳🇮🇳

[@melo3285]

In France we are a lot of Insomnia too 😁

[@whatwhatwhat8587]

Indian somnias💕

[@abiramikrishna]

Indian insomnia

[@shanicestella2226]

Dreamcatcher So criminally underrated Although They’re So Unique because Embracing Kpop-Rock Concept Something that most K - girlband don’t do it

[@riibuns]

thankfully Dreamcatcher is growing in some aspect from their recent push at university events and charity performances ! i wish success for all groups in this video.

[@AznIntegra521]

Well a big reason y their growing domestically is because dreamcatcher’s sound has evolved from the hard rock sound they debut with. Their label has tapped into korea’s edm fan base. Raves and edm music is huge in korea and it’s getting more popular. So dreamcatcher tapping into that has helped them and it has a positive affect as their domestic base has grown a lot. SM entertainment understands that edm is huge which is y they have also tapped into this market and y sm has a dedicated edm label. SM has a strong hold in the edm area in korea and it’s just now that other labels has picked on it. Trust me dreamcatcher tapping into the edm market in korea has been the boon that they needed to grow domestically

[@multinsomnia5455]

Yes I'm so happy k-somnies get to see them in more events recently and the girls have new opportunities with their performances "everywhere"!

[@TheRatt96]

I adore Dreamcather's songs, I just got into them so I only know their songs. I could listen to Scream on repeat for hours, it helps my tendious job. I also got into Stray Kids a year ago, I love the song Side Effect, my fav. Best leader Bang Chan!

[@BruceLee-gg6ro]

Dreamcatcher is my top favorite K-pop group. Thanks.

[@suzanesuzi8851]

Monsta X korean fanbase is growing recently and they are almost in every variety show in korea now

[@jurionmx]

Speaking about Monsta X you are not quite right. Yes, some fans had left fanbase after Wonho departure, it's not surpise, it's happening to all groups who had lost a mamber. But to say that they lost their popularity is very misleading. Wonho left group in 2019. Their first Daeseng was in 2020, they had 5 wins first time in their career with Rush Hour comeback last year (just 5 mambers) and they are breaking their sales and streaming records with each comeback! They have stronger fanbase in SK now than back in 2019.

[@laytamong2445]

That’s right, speak that facts! This creator babbling nonsense, should’ve get their information straight and updated!

[@dominiknovotka6817]

Why someone left fanbase after just one member leave a group? It's not true fan then, i like most Jooheon but if he left instead Wonho i will still like their music, they have still 5 members it's enough for group

[@reemyfairy09]

MonstaX went through alot of hardships you can't even imagine the pain we as monbebe and MonstaX has to suffer but they got stronger with every comeback but now steadily are moving forward and getting all respect and admiration from home and internationally ..

[@cubsgirl101]

GOT7 and Monsta X might not have the same big k-fanbase as EXO, BTS, or SVT, but they’re still easily among the top ten most popular 3rd Gen boy groups in Korea. They definitely aren’t “flopping” domestically.

[@laytamong2445]

i agree!!! this video creator need to get their facts check!

[@Sehrii-21]

I agree

[@reemyland]

First I wouldn't say flopping that's a very strong bad word second MonstaX are making great achievement charting, selling , attending popular shows in SK. They are really respected by other idols and seniors so if you don't follow them that much it's not nice to say this about them...they are more known internationally and recently are even more famous in their hometown..

[@pinkbloodedmultistan]

I heard about Loona's existence because of their fans. Like they are everywhere promoting the group especially in some random comment sections. Until I got to discover their Cherry bomb dance cover and started listening to their music. I hope things get better for Loona. They are talented. Visual hug for all Loona's fan.

[@monbebepabu]

when monsta x’s ticket sales opened for their FANCON, this year, over 70k were in queue to get tickets. they are not flops in any way and it’s about time y’all stop talking without doing your research. they are well known, well respected and break their own records with each comeback.

[@LadyTiferet]

Ateez sold out their first world tour about 4 months after the debut (USA/Australia/Europe) and a year later set the record for the fastest (after debuting) sold out 100k+ tour in the history of kpop. And they're now halfway through their SECOND world tour of the year. They're the most successful non-big company boy group in current kpop, and for a good reason.

[@heidi8242]

And there's some toxic fans from big 4 groups that are hating on Ateez. Feeling threatened by their talent and growing popularity.

[@cathyxx7395]

Still flop

[@seempt]

@@cathyxx7395 flop deez nuts

[@purpleantidote6120]

@@cathyxx7395 lol why so threatened?😅 must be stay or army for sure!

[@ICE_OnMyTeeth]

@@cathyxx7395 Somebody is crying in the replies. 😂 Love that for Ateez.

[@GLawSomnia]

My top 3 groups Dreamcatcher, Monsta X and Ateez are all here. And there are 3 other groups that i like (Stray Kids, Got7 and CLC). So it seems i really fit into the international type of fan 😁

[@jurionmx]

Also Monsta X had korean comeback after combeck all 7 years, and released 4 japanese albums, so to say that Starship forgot about Asia is so wrong. The fact thay they managed to release 2 english albums and had 3 world tours is because they worked hard as hell. Starship CEO even once said that Monsta x is like cash cow, so they were milking them as much as they could. At one point they were so overworked that many mambers had injuries so they went on hiatus. Therefore many fans had left the fandom, so after that monsta was so afraid to take longer vacation or leave SK for longer period of time.

[@woahthere_dami]

DREAMCATCHER & ATEEZ FIGHTING✨✨✨💜💜

[@alantes]

MONSTA X and got7 are the pride of Gen 3 and as for the ppl who don’t pay attn to them? Their loss.

[@kyu534]

Right! They have good music, insane choreographies & very talented members. I wonder why people sleep on them 🥺

[@hehe-fl6vm]

Frr

[@Dreamcatcherot7]

I'm so happy to see so many comments about DREAMCATCHER cuz the more we talk about them the more people might get intrested to check them out!! 😍

[@kyu534]

With Got7 & Monsta X ones, I can confirm that they're more popular outside of korea. Got7 is my ult group for 6 years & Monsta X is one of the first groups I've stanned. (I still do 🤗) Both groups hold special places in my heart. But I want to say that they're not really flopping. I'm not sure about Monsta X's korean fan base. But Got7 korean fan base is increasing. Their comeback this year gained them lots of new korean fans.

[@tb9441]

MX's korean fanbase is the biggest it's ever been and the boys have confirmed it themselves. They had 70k fighting to go to their seoul concert alone

[@kyu534]

@@tb9441 Oh it's good to know that. I'm glad they're getting the recognition they deserve in their home country 🥰

[@jennifermay6990]

Same with Monsta X. They got a lot of attention for Hyungwon's interview with Youngji recently in Korea and have had sold out concerts in Korea as well. They also have won quite a few awards on a bunch of different music shows. I will agree that they did lose a lot of support in Korea with the loss of Wonho, but they are not really flops, they just have a bigger overseas fanbase.

[@tb9441]

@@jennifermay6990 correction on the last sentence: "...they did lose a lot of support *internationally* with the loss of Wonho, but they are not really flops, they just have a *big domestic fanbase now* "

[@nunuosito8637]

@@jennifermay6990 Están perdidas, desde antes ya Monsta X ha crecido en Corea.

[@loonas.sapphics]

Loona & Dreamcatcher are overseas legends 😍🫶

[@KayPoppedUp]

I would love to see a Dreamcatcher and ATEEZ collab stage, please and thank you. I feel like the companies and their music managers (because they're affiliated) could make an amazing collab for them.

[@multinsomnia5455]

THIS We're still waiting (as the girls re-signed their contract it could be possible)

[@ericalin4884]

Insomnia for life dreamcatcher fighting!

[@shapley4743]

Dreamcatcher debut at the time where everyones focus was on IOI members new group like Pristin, Weki Meki, Gugudan .Their debut album sales was 3k+ while their competitors all had a good start with 10-50k sales. Then theres Gfriend Mamamoos uprising popularity and Momolands hit song. Everyone might thought Dreamcatcher going to be left behind, time proved other wise, Dreamcatcher broke 100k album sales starting in 2020 eventhough they still dont have a music show win, while the other groups which had a good start fall out due to company issues. They pull through 5 years coming 6 years they are one of the fewer groups from small company where all members renewed their contract. They are the living proof of organic growth in Kpop, no hit songs, no viral cam, no big company privilege, no popular variety show appearance marketing. Everything was build step by step

[@rulezzzureal]

Dreamcatcher breaking the K-pop mold with their B-side, Silent Night...

[@Matt..-]

I really miss CLC, one of the best kpop groups out there and they weren’t appreciated enough. They have an amazing discography if not one of the best discography’s in kpop out there.

[@sliverhalo9286]

same! Devil is my favorite song they released

[@Chestar493]

Yes they were gaining alot in 2019 but cube again placed the on haitus

[@mushroomexpress3049]

i think their discography are okay. what make clc good is their perfomance skill. probably the best among cubes artist.

[@AznIntegra521]

La vie en rose was supposed to b clc’s song but 🖕🏼cube gave it away. Yes elkie has confirmed that la vie en rose was supposed to b their comeback song.

[@Kidakakasz]

I love the fact, that Ateez has also concerts in Europe, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Atiny from Asia and South America that they will be able to see them one day too ❤ Most companies see the world tour as "USA, CANADA, JAPAN, AUSTRALIA", yes Skz and MX, I'm waiting for you to come to Europe-.-

[@LadyTiferet]

They're definitely trying, they went to all those available festivals/cons in new to them countries, so they're doing research and gauging interest.

[@muzikcaulwell421]

So agree.....sometimes I wonder if JYP has something against Europe 😂

[@tb9441]

Ummmm Monsta X themselves literally have said they're at a career high and Kihyun just cashed his biggest check EVER this month. Also sold out tour since 2017 and that didnt change in 2022 either They're one of the top boy groups in South Korea these days. 70k people were in queue to get PRESALE tickets to their Seoul concert alone. They're also one of the few bgs that chart on Melon Top 100 with every cb

[@Mariana_Mirai]

Kard,Got7 and dreamcatcher are really popular here in brazil

[@KpopNiDontStop]

Although not huge yet in Korea I think dreamcatchers fandom there is growing and becoming stable.

[@WhippedForJeonJungkook]

Most of the groups do well overseas than in their home country, where they are not as appreciated. Success comes easily for them overseas and the fans are more supportive there

[@rookie_s]

truee

[@Christabell0]

omg yes i agree with this. perfect example alot of rock/metal bands do way better in europe than here in america when it all comes down to $$$$$ they are always bigger overseas regardless

[@chayazeff1995]

Not true. Bts for example are very popular in Korea but also internationally.

[@hevxhev]

@@chayazeff1995 no op is definitely correct. I'm a debut Army but honestly any Army would know it was never ALWAYS like that for BTS. Their grind has been talked about so much so wdym

[@ainajoe5874]

Because most Korean don't appreciate them

[@jeybox]

i absolutely love dreamcatcher and they are one of my favourite groups

[@ethelsj4278]

3:48 emmmmm.....no, let's put this timeline straight, ok? Monsta X around and before 2019 well pretty known internationally but not domestically; after Wonho left the intl fandom lose some members but tbh their numbers actually never showed that their popularity was decreasing (always consistent and getting higher), when 4th gen started to be the rule on the kpop world, then was when mx popularity saw an impact but more than anything it is bc 4th gen fans are so into numbers that almost every 4th gen group that is making it big have crazy numbers, mx didn't have that big jump so people started to create this narrative of them "losing popularity", but this concept has never be supported by the fans themselves; now monsta x domestically is having a crazy increase for a boy group, i mean they are practically one of the 8 most famous active boy groups in Korea rn despite what antis are saying, the fact only nct, txt, bts, btob, svt and winner have better numbers than them tells you a lot, considering boy groups are basically extint on streaming plataforms this year and that, the groups I mentionated are big names in korea, so yeah, monsta x is doing pretty well, this "oh my good poor them" narrative that no fans tries to put on monsta x out of lack of acknowledge or just for hate is not good and monsta x only deserves more praise, not you pitty them

[@tb9441]

Exactlyyyyy like sure some international fans dropped them after wonho left bc they token stanned the group but reality is, mx are at a career peak in SK (they've said so themselves) and their international support is STABLE, still selling out world tours and huge venues just like 4th gen groups are. For a 7.5 year old group, that's impressive. They no longer have to fight for recognition like they did as rookies, that's 4th gen's turn now. Also they literally got a daesang in 2020? This video is so misleading

[@sassyking6029]

Dreamcatcher IS the moment, although they're not huge in korea there's no group doing like these talented girls, thankfully they're popular overseas

[@sabrinaleedance]

Also, my husband who doesn't rlly know anything about Kpop knows who Monsta X is 🤣 his boss is into Kpop but the fact that he remembered her talking about them is interesting

[@Lisa-hd8ey]

monsta x fanbase is still growing though! they are doing so well

[@sabrinaleedance]

After Blackpink. Dreamcatcher was the second Kpop girl group I ever discovered and started listening too so I think that says a lot ! I mean I think KZbin suggested them to me bc I listen to other similar music and was becoming interested in Blackpink but still

[@novascape128]

Omg same! Blackpink was the only gg i stanned until i found Dreamcatcher. They're both my gg ults now

[@izadorad]

Same here! Black pink got me into kpop but Dreamcatcher is what made me fall in love and stay a kpop fan.

[@alicetappers8942]

Same

[@franklina9853]

omg same here😍😳

[@Yooh_The_Pooh]

Same story

[@CocoOT8]

ATEEZ. So talented and so underrated. Who else went on TWO sold out WORLD ARENA tours in less than a year… Million+ preorders on their latest cb. Top 3 on Billboard. Glad to see SK is finally waking up to their talent, too.

[@mushroomexpress3049]

stop using the wrong term. they're not underated. search up the word underated. which part of them are underated. none

[@KamaliYuyu]

@@mushroomexpress3049 They are underrated 😁

[@cathyxx7395]

They have no talents that’s why they flop

[@kpopfanphotos]

@@KamaliYuyu Ateez is selling over a million albums right now lol... they're not underrated.

[@KamaliYuyu]

@@kpopfanphotos Yes..but where is the acknowledgement for that from others. They did sell album, achieve so many things but apart from atinys others always belittle their growth despite being visible. Also Ateez is still Underrated in Korea compared to Big company BGs and new GGs gaining attention. Ateez is underappreciated for their International growth and their music is underrated among Knetz if that makes sense.

[@zoedelaney171]

Dreamcatcher are underrated!

[@saleigha5558]

The way Ateez, Loona, Dreamcatcher, and Stray Kids are 4 of my 5 ult groups:) I'm so proud of all of them and how much they've grown and I remember when they weren't as popular before and now looking at them makes me so happy :') And everglow is my second fav girl group I love them all sm

[@YCHTT]

When one tells you Dreamcatcher is so underrated considering reading the achievement list below which shows Dreamcatcher has already achieved a lot but definitely not to the point they really deserve. They should be at least like BTS or Blackpink level famous and invited to every TV shows for live performance. Here are some of their achievements: - In 2017 Dreamcatcher (debut year) achieved: 1) First EP album 'Prequel,' reached top (#1) US iTunes K-Pop Top 100 Chart, debuted #5 on the Billboard World Albums Chart and #3 on Billboard's Best New K-Pop Acts. 2) Nominated for Melon Music Awards (New Artist of the Year) and Mnet Asian Music Awards (Best New Female Artist). - In 2018 Dreamcatcher achieved: 3) First K-pop girl group to complete a tour of major European cities. 4) Second EP album 'Escape the Era,' reached #1 Hanteo's album chart, #1 China's Yinyuetai, #3 on Gaon reached and debuted #7 Billboard World Albums Chart. 5) Latin American tour in South America. 6) Won the Keum Yeong Star Awards (Promising Idol). 7) Nominated for Korean Brand of the Year (Female Idol of the Year). - In 2019 Dreamcatcher achieved: 8) Second European tour and 1st US tour. - In 2020 Dreamcatcher achieved: 9) 5th EP album, 'Dystopia: Lose Myself,' #3 best selling album on Hanteo among girl groups / female soloists for August 2020, beating group or soloist such as Red Velvet (Monster), Blackpink (How You Like That, and Kill This Love), Twice (More & More), GFriend (Song of the Sirens), Hwasa (Maria), Jennie (Solo), April (Hello Sumer), Rocket Punch (Blue Punch) and just behind Itzy (Not Shy) and (G)I-DLE (Dumdi Dumdi) at #3. 10) Won the Ten Asia Global Ten Ten Awards (Best Artist). 11) Nominated for Soribada Best K-Music Awards (Popularity Award). - In 2021 Dreamcatcher achieved: 12) DC became first K-Pop girl group to reach #1 Billboard's Next Big Sound chart 13) Sixth EP Album 'Dystopia: Road to Utopia,' reached top (#1) iTunes Worldwidie Album chart in 16 countries, #2 in Netherland, and top 10 in 35 countries 14) Dami & Siyeon's OST for the drama Black Hole debuted #1 K-OST's chart 15) Nominated for Brand Customer Loyalty Awards (Hot Trend Female Idol Group) and Asia Artists Awards (Female Idol Group Popularity). - In 2022 Dreamcatcher achieved: 16) First & second music show win with Maison on MBC M's Show Champion and SBS MTV's The Show respectively. 17) First K-Pop group/artist invited to Primavera European Music Festival in 2022 18) Second US tour 19) Won the K Global Heart Dream Awards (Best Music Video). 20) 3rd European tour in November.

[@jaytibby]

2022 was a good year for Dreamcatcher

[@bigbeef8190]

Dreamcatcher is amazing. SK yall sleeping on these talented beauties.

[@airis4898]

i feel like dreamcatcher is working in the US because of their genre. but nontheless, i still love my girls

[@tabitasutharsan_winklemon33]

"It won't take long before they're mentioned alongside the big groups of their generation" YES. Y E S. SLAY ATEEZ FOR LIFE

[@sentou2353]

I kinda find it very funny that Monsta X is in this because yrs ago I think this applies to them where they are more popular overseas than in Korea. Antis always called them fl0ps at their own home country but nowadays since they kept getting viral moments in Korea, gaining bigger kfanbases, charting better etc suddenly kpop stans say that’s because they are only popular in korea and not overseas. People even got mad that Monsta X are called global artist. One things for sure, Monsta X are still thriving both domestic & overseas. Even tho their rise is slower compared to other groups, they never fell off or lose their relevancy if you compare their results from previous cbs to newer ones. They keep steadily rising and this is a miracle for a group who went through A LOT, whose career is at the verge of breaking back in 2019 when their member was forcefully kicked out, them having planned attacks against them trying to get them disbanded. But they overcome all of it to be where they are now because of their loyal fanbase. Not many groups are able to do that. Only a select few did & Monsta x is one of them. Just because they are not most talked about by the genz, doesn’t mean they lose any bit of their popularity. They are still very well respected in the industry & all the people inside it. I am just too proud of them & as a Monbebe I will never be embarrassed to say I stan them & will do it for a very long time❤

[@nasv7605]

Right? and i was shocked when Monsta x got Global Artist award and people hating on them like they are not famous outside of korea. Like what? Most groups don't even have english album, world tour with 37 cities, america tour, global artists featuring and japanese album almost every year. And they were all successful & sold out. What's wrong with people...

[@SmallTownLife0208]

Monsta X are far from flopping. They’ve been through a lot of hardships & continue to overcome & grow. Selling more records, charting better, & selling out arenas on tour. Their fanbase is even growing in SK. So this video is pretty inaccurate.

[@amiramegali9688]

Monsta x in the top 10 most streamed boy groups in South Korea this year and CONSTANTLY in the top 10 melon group chart... a korean streaming app. Why lie like this and saying they flopped in Korea??

[@JaneJannie]

SKZ is getting bigger in Korea nowadays for real! So happy for them ☺️

[@perkybo9848]

why are armys always lying on Monsta X??? it's either "they're only popular in SK" or "they're only popular internationally", whatever matches their current narrative lmaoooo MX been on the steady rise in popularity and sales, especially in Korea in the last few years, with big growth amongst the college age fans. 70K people fighting over MX concert tickets from PRE-SALE show exactly how popular MX is nowadays in Korea

[@jurionmx]

Every monbebe now they're obsessed with Monsta X or they feel threatened by them, because no one can deny their talent, visuals etc

[@jurionmx]

Monsta X comeback 2023.01.09 BE READY!

[@tenwupai]

I just stan one group only in kpop..DREAMCATCHER✌️

[@wonbb]

I love how antis and this kind of 'journalist" like this channel changes the narrative of the popularity of monsta x... like 3 weeks ago... at first was 'no one knows monsta x overseas' and then the MMA awards was 'they are only famous in korea' like.... be serious.

[@chelsuh614]

Monsta X is a truly international group 🙌🥰

[@multinsomnia5455]

And their English releases are amazing!

[@kiki0girlify]

When Deadpool (Ryan Reynolds) stated he was a fan of stray kids, I saw the viewing sky rocket. Also the fact that Hugh jackman is also a fan helps. They had both dc and marvel actors as fans 😅

[@merve.864]

I don't know if you mean they gained popularity thanks to Ryan and Hugh but I'll just comment anyway 🙂 I'm following Stray Kids more than 3 years and I can easily say that Marvel fans do not care about kpop at all and Stray Kids' success and views are purely because of their album and performance success. Even before the Ryan interaction, Kingdom deadpool performance was getting lots of views because I remember how hyped we were back then, even Lisa fans when Lisa collabed with other group were watching skz performance because it caught everyone's attention. And the mention thing, It was a nice interaction so tweets got lots of attention from kpop fans but not marvel or dc fans. It is my opion though you can disagree ofc

[@jayavanzado0927]

LOONA, KARD, EVERGLOW & CLC are my K-Pop Bias Groups on this List!!!

[@changki8113]

'flop' is a huge word, it aint monsta x. monsta x has becoming popular on korea too.

[@cheongshinyi5546]

LOONA and DREAMCATCHER is such a talented group. I am lowkey rooting for them. And also ATEEZ,.i discover this BG because of their BLACKPINK song covers.

[@xxpersephonexx6847]

Did Ateez cover Black pink? If so can you send me a link please.

[@purpleantidote6120]

@@xxpersephonexx6847 they didnt cover blackpink though?

[@xxpersephonexx6847]

@@purpleantidote6120 I commented that because they state they discovered this BG due to them covering Black Pink

[@purpleantidote6120]

@@xxpersephonexx6847 ye sorry I meant to reply to the og post

[@preciouslyunhinged]

I can say this, An glad kpop is internationally famous...yes fandoms matter but the fact there still bigger fandoms for these groups is epic and loyalty is insane...bse these idols are still recognized for there talents too since international fans we have different tastes in music genres or like me we listen to almost every genre

[@MommyAda21]

Finally someone agreeing on Everglow's ROTG sales, 42k isn't bad but for them it's dangerous, their previous comeback sold over 50k and since their debut, their sales were growing, but once the sales are going down, you know it's very dangerous and risky

[@EmelyPhan]

Atiny from Canada who was introduced through their collab with Pentatonix. The Beginning of the End Tour was about 3 years after they debuted in 2018.

[@tabitasutharsan_winklemon33]

She was talking about their expedition tour which was their first tour they went on about 4 months after they debuted

[@twixee.]

It’s funny how so many people want to say that groups aren’t popular, when they are just not in Korea.

[@laytamong2445]

I hate how you non Monsta X fan still thinks that Monsta X is still flopping in korea and now flopping in the US. Let me educate you, they recently had their US tour despite being delayed for years and no promo, also 70k Korean fans lined up for the first day of their concert on a venue with only 5k capacity. Every month they enter top 10 monthly bg rankings, even shownu is still a topic despite being in the military. Korean monbebes are top 1 (according to data) in terms of streaming like youtube. “Let’s hope that would change soon” and it really have been changing. Sure they’re not as popular as EXO, BTS, SVT but their sales are increasing, charting more, breaking new records, gaining more fans every comeback without sign of decline. I need you non fans to get your facts straight and updated.

[@Kalakeiko]

Exactly. I agree that Monsta X deserves even more popularity and success because they're so incredibly talented and they deserve every bit of recognition and love after everything they've gone through, but I'm really tired of the "Monsta X is flopping" narrative and like they barely have any fans anymore and that they should just disband when the people that claim that aren't even familiar with Monsta X and their achievements smh

[@bbbbbbbbbb0]

Monsta X are currently bigger than they’ve ever been in Korea rn.. in the past 1-2 years they’ve managed to match their popularity in Korea to their international fame. I wish y’all did better research because the so-called “journalism” of this channel tends to be subpar!

[@suayesbabyyes2696]

❤️🔥Dreamcatcher ❤️🔥

[@aph.switzerland]

I absolutely ADORE Everglow, and I have been a fan of them forever!! Even when I fell out of my kpop phase 3 years ago, Adios was STILL on my playlist and it hasn't left!! My kpop phase has returned now, and I still stan them!! Yuehua, please give them a comback, I'm very worried for their future and I would hate seeing them disband.

[@yasminchan7425]

This list just shows international fans has better taste

[@Meme-fe6nl]

MONSTA X are far from flopping

[@imdemonic2393]

They never flopped. Since their debut, they are always growing ;) but people can't pinpoint why they are not following the hype system that usually is the norm for kpop. Well, i would say one reason is because it's music first, for their aficionados, and bc their music is a niche, sort of (for kpop at least ; they have built their own identity and sound). They are stable, and growing always. Very proud of them! ^^

[@kihyunspen]

Monsta X? I guess a lot of you still living in 2019. A quick research would show that actually they're on the top 10 boy groups in Korea now, even their solo releases charted higher than some popular groups

[@wonbb]

Thissss they still charting without no comeback, this channel is just pure hate, not just to monstas...

[@our_verse96]

All of the groups are amazing! Talented period. I think international fans accept most of their songs, music and genre, so we keep supporting them nevertheless. Meanwhile, some korean fans are kinda picky with the concepts and type of music. If they love it they stan, if not bye bye. That’s what I see and observe in kpop. Kinda sad but that’s reality.

[@justwalkin1928]

Baby stays will never understand the struggles skz and old stays faced when they used to get little to no attention from korea 😭

[@HailToTheMeep]

These days, they don't have to rack up numbers in Korean music shows. Don't worry. Plenty of love for DREAMCATCHER and ATEEZ around the world. As well as for all the other groups. The sad thing about the kpop model is that a group is practically a product. As soon as the company decided you are not profitable you are axed. Like American TV shows. Like RAISED BY WOLVES, a BRILLIANT SERIES cancelled because the network decided that another series is more profitable. Not that the cancelled one is not good. The members do not have a choice about carrying on for the sake of the fans, their music, or their dreams. Hopefully one day this will change.

[@mushroomexpress3049]

?? what are you talking about. dreamcatcher company literally redebut dreamcatcher and dedicated their company for them. the CEO are a big fans of dreamcatcher, and said he close the company and make a cucumber shop to support them if they failed as dreamcatcher. jiu also mention whenever they wait for show winner announcementt, the CEO always smoke outside. also. they renew their contract long before the contract end. jiu said the contract are very satisfying.

[@diyachaudhari9520]

Everglow deserve way more... None of single bad songs and they having best discography amongst 4th gen so far but Yueh0e neglecting them and treating with royality to Tempest & Yena😔

[@ruum9]

They're not "flopping" in Korea stop misusing that term. They're just relatively unpopular but they still have fans.

[@meiyang9824]

exactly

[@ecelabucay6864]

because antis don't know meaning flop imagine Ive straykids nct win daesang nut antis calling them flop lol

[@nushisam4409]

Monsta x fan base growing up korean to monsta x best best

[@aquarius489]

CLC's 'Crystle' was my first kpop album and it did not disappoint. No skips. That group deserved more than what they got from Cube as well as the GP.

[@ryujins.smile.]

LOONA’s international fandom is 🔥. On twitter I always see Stan Loona so much it’s a daily occurrence. These music shows just be rigged to not give Loona much wins 😢 Also, forgot to add that LOONA’s fandom is toxic so be careful if u decide to stan Loona. Also, kookielit, I’m a big fan and I’m always first for your videos ❤

[@bear.hugsubzz]

HEYY

[@ryujins.smile.]

@@bear.hugsubzz hello 👋

[@retricallltann6243]

Rmb to boycott their cmb next year since the girls are not getting paid and being forced to comeback as 11 after bbc kicked chuu boycotting their cmb will prevent bbc from gaining money to use in lawsuits against the girls suspending their contracts

[@toastlover555]

Skz wasn’t very popular in Korea because JYP treated them like an experiment. They let chan pick his members and let them debut and said “alr go on fly into the world”. Even though they’re under a big 3 company, the members had gathered their audience themselves with chan talking in English in his vlives and such. Their growth was completely organic and then after kingdom that gathered like millions of fans. I’m happy they have a lot more recognition world wide now

[@OurSunshineLixie]

Chan knew all the members long before they debuted he even said this himself if the guys wasn’t happy at JYP they would of left already they are doing very well for themselves they are very big and I’m happy for them. I really like stray kids. They make great music they multi talented group.

[@toastlover555]

@@OurSunshineLixie Well yeah I know that, ik they would’ve left if they didn’t like it but you can’t deny JYP treated them like they a random experiment in their first 2 years (probably cuz of their concept and cuz they were self producing). They already debuted so they couldn’t actually leave or anything they just had to try their hardest to promote themselves

[@askara9234]

@@toastlover555 I think maybe it was mutual agreement between jype and skz. Something like ' I'll give you a full creative freedom but in exchange I won't invest much in your promotion'. And I think the freedom skz got is much more valuable in the long run. But of course it's just my theory. Anyway I'm happy div1 finally started giving them proper promotion.

[@quadling3521]

JYP told 3Racha straight up that he was happy for them to be a group that might not be a group that appeal to everyone but was a few people’s absolute favourite group. I think he was probably tired with having groups that had to appeal to everyone and have GP hits in order for the company to stay afloat. Because that would put a strain on his relationship with the idols, all of whom he seems to really care about if you hear their stories of him reaching out to them and talking to them (it definitely seemed to put a strain on his relationship with GOT7 as he couldn’t let them do what they wanted in case it didn’t have mass appeal). But then the massive success of Twice (and 2pm’s big hit in 2015 and their explosion in Japan) allowed JYPE to have groups like Stray Kids, Xdinary Heroes and NMIXX to be a bit different and to be free from requiring mass appeal. But what KOOKIELIT doesn’t mention is also that a lot of the Stray Kids (at the beginning) did not fit Korean Beauty Standards (this has changed in more recent years with them growing up more and probably having surgery - and Hyunjin has always fit them). A lot of KNetz were calling them ugly at the time and dismissing them, so they lost attention at the first post.

[@terrymontgomery3295]

So far this year I’ve seen Seventeen, Enhypen, Black Pink, Ateez and SF9. Loved them all! Have tickets to see Oneus, P1Harmony and Stray Kids. Really looking forward to Stray Kids!!

[@herj.6982]

Thanks to international fans. These groups could've have ended up disbanding if they debuted decade ago, when kpop was not that popular outside of domestic market like these days

[@BRK5813]

I came here to see CLC!! But, I hung around for Loona, Dreamcatcher & Everglow!

[@emptyvoid5272]

So im conclusion, if the group is: From the Big 3, not much foreign members, good looking, boring overused cutesy/girl crush concept if girlgroup -> more popular in Korea Mostly from smaller company, probably more than two foreign members, more preference for talent than visual, unusual music concept for girlgroup -> more popular globally

[@ahgavlive4517]

Yeahh GOT7 truly is getting more recognition! ^^ Especially bc some members truly attract the korean audience just like Youngjae with his popular radio show, bambam with his appearance in the really successful and popular dating-show transit love 2, and Jinyoung with his successful acting roles in Yumi cells, Devils Judge, Reborn Rich and now Christmas carol!!🔥💚 Jayb is also doing great with his fanbase which also leads to them checking out GOT7~ GOT7 really had some moments where they gained a lot of korean fans With the releases of Hard Carry, Just Right, You Are, Look and bside-tracks like Page a lot of korean fans joined the fandom but like you said are they always changing their concepts which can also lead to a disadvantage!! But GOT7 has a solid fanbase in korea! They are maybe a bit small but they are as consistent as the international ones^^

[@Sehrii-21]

I agree

[@FF-rg6uo]

Yeah, while GOT7’s intl fanbase is very strong, GOT7 still has a lot of local music show wins and awards. This video seems to overlook that

[@nicolemontcadadupont935]

The ones I was shocked by because I stan them are: ATEEZ KARD STRAY KIDS MONSTA X GOT7 THE ROSE If I were them I wouldn't be worry about not doing good nationally just because it's better to have million of fans WORLDWIDE than only have a few national ones specially because been known nationally won't help them grow compared to be known internationally also I would have preferred to win a BILLBOARDS award that the entire world watches than a MAMA award that only asian countries watch so its fine if they don't do well in Korea what counts is to do well internationally that's what gets u the money and fame.

[@lesleyblackvelvet7647]

This literally came out when Everglow cancelled their ENTIRE SEA TOUR

[@cmotl1]

Dreamcatcher 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@evoletterhze]

Ma'am, if you're gonna do this, do it properly. 🤣 I had to double check when this was uploaded. MX ain't flopping in KR. They are getting recognized more and more with every comeback. We're literally swamped with contents, the boys are booked and busy in KR with all the hostings, guestings and promos. 🤷🏻‍♀️ And no, the group didn't lose popularity when Wonho left, Monbebe's are Wenees too. We get more contents. 💖 All 7 of them are very popular internationally but I wouldn't consider them flops in Korea, specially now.

[@preciouslyunhinged]

I love ateez..even in my country Rwanda,(East Africa)..monsta x bse of there English album, ateez,skz has more fans after bts bse of there strong concept and unique and kard bse there both unique sound,got 7 ..especiallyafter they left jyp peaple got curious and liked there humor too......there

[@jeongincanspeakorean]

AFSJDKL a fellow African? Hi!!!

[@preciouslyunhinged]

@@jeongincanspeakorean 👋🏿 hey

[@jeongincanspeakorean]

@@preciouslyunhinged I'm from Kenya tho, and my ultimate group is Stray Kids ❤❤

[@preciouslyunhinged]

@@jeongincanspeakorean am Rwandan ,it's amazing to find a Kenyan here....my ult group...there alot😂seventeen,Bts,skz,ateez, monsta x,mamamo ...alotttttt

[@preciouslyunhinged]

@@jeongincanspeakorean ur user name is creative btw

[@ICE_OnMyTeeth]

Nothing against people thinking Ateez needs more kfans. That def helps in the award shows but an artist that can appeal to many types of people all over the world is amazing. Ateez is actually growing in Korea. They sold out multiple tour dates in Korea with a capacity of 11k each night. Ateez has the 0st Gravity from the #1 ranking drama Reborn Rich. Ateez has the 0st, Like That on the Korean adaptation of the hit webtoon Lookism and it's on Netflix. They also did the song Let's Get Together on the Mimicus 0st . They pulled off 2 arena tours in the same year.

[@tea4099]

Well, despite huge success overseas I’m sure having the support and acknowledgment of your country is a main priority for these artist. Yes, you can have great streaming #s and album sales but if you’re not charting on Korean platform you will never get the awards and will at some point disappear from the public spotlight. Int fans are great but Asia fans however are very loyal to 1 group and rarely multi.

[@ICE_OnMyTeeth]

@@tea4099 Yes, they've said they would like their own country to appreciate them and to win awards in their own country. They've also said they aren't going to change their music etc, just to get them. They're going to do what they like . I already acknowledged that a bigger kfan base for Ateez would make winning awards easier however, the fact is they've won plenty of Korean awards and that is the majority Ifan effort. If we left kfans to do it, Ateez would have nothing because the numbers are not there to give them that support. They've been on k platforms. Itinys stream too. Bug passes are being bought for their 30 Dec release. Ateez would win and chart even more if more ifans streamed. Knetz are dedicated to artists from big Korean labels not small label groups like Ateez and then even more so, girl groups. Ateez have been doing what they always do yet knetz ignored them. Now we see more and more how they are talking about Ateez massive success outside and are praising them now. Ateez are def thankful for the kfans they have and I appreciate how we work together for Ateez and I know Ktinys are thankful because they know they can't pull the weight right now for Ateez. Ateez highest Hanteo global certifications has Always been U.S. I hope more knetz open their eyes. Ateez deserve that support and acknowledgement.

[@imdemonic2393]

Monsta X next comeback is 2023.01.09! 🔥 They are stable and built their own sound & identity 💕🎶 & growing in Korea rn... I love to see it! 🖤🥰