10 Misconceptions in Entry Point

[@mytho_actual]

"Entry Point is just Roblox Payday" Notoriety: [nervous sweating]

[@karolkarol2952]

Exacly.

[@ghostyhd2795]

If someone wanted to call ep a payday clone i would kill them but if they said notoriety was a payday clone i would be like meh justified

[@panchi2090]

Yesss Ofc, the way you interact with doors, power boxes and that stuff is definetly based on payday 2, but I think that while most of the mechanics are similar to payday 2, they've evolved so much that you wouldn't be able to know what to do in ep if you've only played payday 2 and viceversa.

[@RBXDuy]

lol

[@agentnhr6000]

Notoriety is just Payday 2 but crappier. Unclosable doors even though they are lockpicked and not broken, you can get stuck behind doors and get spotted, and tons of other unrealistic aspects, as well as the fact that it's just blocky as frick

[@superluigidummy]

I think Rose realized a life of crime is bad and only helped form Phoenix for the purpose of ending Halcyon's reign of evil, and afterward, Phoenix would disband.

[@TheMastermind7259]

Well, Rose didn't liked the criminal intelligence service, which is halcyon basically. But phoenix (Jackdaw) promised her to destroy them, but she didn't realized what he meant by that until it was late: he meant to kill Rose, Freelancer and the tech workers who just needed money to live with their family alive. To have roof above their heads. That's why Rose hates Jackdaw and doesn't have any good relationship with him.

[@Kaviboy55]

I also think uno is right because she does call steelcove so I think she was lie, this isn’t right

[@adj8383]

"Pls do ironman legend grenade only but u have to throw grenade at feet no armor no perks omg pls"

[@НикитаБурцев-ч6г]

💀

[@Funrmunt]

The way i see stealth being canon is that the freelancer does the night heists, which are forced stealth, and they do the setup, which is too. Sure they do the score, but technically so does harvey (i think), another thief. Additionally, epilogue doesnt make sense with doing black dusk loud, only stealth. Its the same operative all the wah through, so i think they picked a way and stuck with it, in this case it was stealth

[@Antonio-wh8lh]

The *official* pronunciation of Oo-nof

[@Kriegter]

it's You-nof you idotis

[@DenlixCutix]

I prefer the *unofficial* one

[@iamsam-cu9rz]

Ok, I know the Freelancer died. But the April Fools 2020 dialogue raises a good point. There WAS a blast door, and he (Freelancer) doesn’t say that the blast door was broken.

[@tetraxis3011]

Ignoring the blast door, there are Other ways the freelancer could hace lived as the explosives were not placed in the elevator shaft.

[@alistairvan4059]

Did you mean the elevator blast door

[@iamsam-cu9rz]

@@alistairvan4059 yes

[@Acousticmf123]

I mean the bombs would weaken the cement surrounding the elevator making it collapse in on itself

[@alistairvan4059]

@@Acousticmf123 yeah that makes sense why the freelancer didn't actually survive

[@Stuntmanforlyf]

Black dusk definitely has to be stealth. The epilogue shows that Halycon had just found out that they’ve been infiltrated. If it was loud then it wouldn’t be a surprise to halycon that the freelancer was there and the base needed to go into lockdown after the bombs were planted

[@giulgu17]

Yes, this was already confirmed. In fact he said *most* of the missions

[@thefreddygame28]

I still don't know why he made bd stealth cannon, he could have just said that they locked down the elevator, and cut out the part about how they found out.

[@athrowaway3487]

I mean, if they did loud they *certainly* would have found out

[@Stuntmanforlyf]

@@athrowaway3487 exactly my point. If Cish made the epilogue dialogue more ambiguous then it could’ve worked for both mission types

[@blackice7050]

I think you mean the opposite Black Dusk should be loud only Explain the No kill bonus that doesn't exist in the Black Dusk

[@tetraxis3011]

I have a personal headcannon that the freelaner survived Black dusk but decided to atleast leave the shadow war behind(and maybe even crime in general,as in dedication he shows regret for what he has done) and follow rose’s advice.

[@errrrrrrr05]

Me, a Vietnamese: "people were saying uh-nof?"

[@Lemomars]

why did I think of WhiteGXRoblox when unof said that one misconception is that EP KZbinrs are best

[@bloxable9031]

I guess its just the legend gameplays and challenges lol

[@Chris-ym7fd]

Same😂

[@realwhitegxroblox]

those are what the community think! not my fault, I play because I like it. and I'm not here to compete with anyone. I hate winning & losing

[@Chris-ym7fd]

@@realwhitegxroblox it's fine

[@Lemomars]

@@realwhitegxroblox yeah its better not to compare and just rate in skill without regard to others' achievements

[@stealthyninja7964]

Please make a video about what unconscious means. So many new ppl think they will wake back up and they kill them.

[@realwhitegxroblox]

They supposed to. But in Entry Point Universe, They only wake up after the mission end. or until you kill them that marked as (Dead)

[@hotdogs4177]

some people straight up kill, they really need to learn about that chat feature

[@m.a.s4203]

@@realwhitegxroblox I WATCH YOUR VIDS AND THEY ARE GREAT

[@blackice7050]

Wow how dumb are these people? Even when I was a noob I never thought that unconscious people would wake up

[@blackice7050]

@@realwhitegxroblox Well you are wrong . its more realistic that people wake up after the mission You have hit them with the gun on their head that should keep them down for a few hours and by the time they awake up the mission would be already done

[@balcuv]

2:23 Proof that rose DID die... When your in the main menu Under the XP bar where ur level and EXP is, If you click. on the bar under it you can type things, If you type "MEMENTO" You get alot of information about Rose, It states that she is "Deceased" Meaning dead.

[@crock3251]

nooooooo second-best girl

[@sundayambalada1225]

At least show her dead

[@user-og7pj4ut6u]

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that's a dossier, I doubt she's alive, but she could be for all we know

[@user-og7pj4ut6u]

Not a dossier, written by the same people who wrote it, my bad

[@CreationEmerald]

Yeah, the youtube thing is true, I am byfar not the best player and people giving impossible challenges just demotivated me.

[@reclaimer0018]

I click on this video and then there is an ad about misconceptions about gaming

[@stallsunguy3064]

Some People NEED to understand #6. I'm on the same boat as you, except i aint big yet lol. I consider myself to be a top tier stealth player, but lots and lots of stuff are far out of my reach. The person I consider to be currently the best stealth player (Bawak) isn't even a youtuber lmao

[@bloxable9031]

Ur skills are insane lol

[@stallsunguy3064]

@@bloxable9031 thanks lol, but there are people better by far

[@stallsunguy3064]

@Barricade You mean one of the YT worshippers? I used to be but i stopped imo

[@stallsunguy3064]

@Barricade If a player wants to decide they'll ignore the story, you can't do shit but suck it. Insisting in this argument will only make me tempted to make my freelancers alive again, all of them.

[@stallsunguy3064]

@Barricade idgaf

[@dianasetiawatie7407]

notoriety is clearly the most matching game that looks like payday 2, same map, same mechanic, etc. try matching the first notoriety heist and the payday 2 heist (jewelry store)

[@afonsitito4099]

3:02 when the freelancer is sus

[@JxsonKing]

Another misconception is that Rose set up the freelancer to get confronted by Jackdaw in Ashes. It’s potential canon, but not confirmed.

[@blackice7050]

Its confirmed in the wiki that Rose has set this up

[@SolaroidSF]

Cish didnt write the wiki now did they

[@grunt655]

@@SolaroidSF it is on the lock. Rose did set him up

[@splat-a-tat6780]

@@SolaroidSF He actually does edit it lol

[@rickthecookiegoesmassive2723]

@@rozetinarozetina4042 their gender is not confirmed

[@Liquidstein]

7 misconception as i think is exactly correct. If freelancer was traitor, then i guess he would Just killed Wren

[@nolandonahue795]

4:31, there are copies of payday on roblox which include about every aspect of that game in their game. I think Entry Point is kind of like a mix between Payday and Hitman, put on roblox with a bunch of new ideas to the table, and also original lore.

[@aelorus7902]

4:32 This is just unfair. Ep and payday are far from being the same. I wouldn't say this is copying, this is inspiration. They have their own missions, their own storyline and different mechanics. Some people act like they're game is the first ever game to have that kind of mechanic. Now. Lets discuss who is most similar to payday. *everyone looks at notoriety*

[@rednova05]

Thanks for pointing out these misconceptions I will no longer have to silently get triggered because of them Finally someone else who uses angled and stubby grip

[@sasin2715]

People who think that EP is a payday rip-off, have you even seen *cough cough* a certain game starting with n and ending y *cough cough*

[@yaboil7774]

Rose called Steel cove yes, but she wouldn't be able to call Jackdaw being that she was in deep cover she obviously realized that the onyx would be better off back in the hands of the government rather than letting it fall into the hands of Halcyon

[@Litleo276]

Rose could be alive. The video spero made explains this. So basically falcon did have a history of ignoring orders for a moral purpose back in steel cove. The lock code shows roses death but what if it was faked? Falcon probably ignored orders for moral reasons once again. She just wanted to be a ghost and its true she hated this war so its possible rose survived

[@DenlixCutix]

Im pretty sure everything is canon like its a straight line but not you do loud rivera dies but you still get the stuff riveras alive and you get the stuff still its a straight line but not. It goes away from the timeline then goes back. Entry point has a pretty unique timeline

[@ssniper-mb7js]

In the withdrawal, the police refuse to negotiate with you and rose says something along the lines of “they’re not willing to negotiate, seems you’ve got a bit infamous” so I’m guessing the deposit was canonically loud

[@Kriegter]

The freelancer is in a similar situation to Killer Bean

[@thedirector9871]

maybe the Freelancer IS killer bean

[@fuze7885]

the freelancer entered a life of crime because the directors son was playing the music too loud

[@deltawarrior543]

The Deposit is canonically Stealth because in The Withdrawal, Jackdaw states they never even knew about the hit in Cincinnati (The Deposit)

[@1227rsshook]

ok this still isn't stopping me from knowing how to do deposit loud from heart

[@uiuelite]

Well I don't know because here a conversation when you do the cache Jackdaw: you know they upgrade the security Freelancer: I don't think I can say I don't do impression Also withdrawal is in another country

[@Sam-gy4yr]

​@uiuelite Withdrawl is in San Francisco, and the deposit is in cincinnati both of which are in America

[@gamergaming376]

I don't understand why people say "ep is just a rip off of payday 2" even though ep has no stolen assets from payday 2

[@Auoxiss]

4:31 that edit is so epic!

[@mategetsnosleep3612]

I have played payday and entry point and they feel very different.

[@AI_VIRUS101]

Notoriety

[@minibigbox8313]

​Notoriety is pay day 2 ripoff, also notoriety is nowhere near to ep level except loud missions and (I played pay day 1, pay day 2,ep,notoriety, mgs (game that inspired ep dev) @@AI_VIRUS101

[@noah95748]

"entry point is roblox payday 2" Notoriety: hold my beer

[@tlcheng2846]

i wonder if rose would be happy in the killhouse nightmare if we all bring thumpers because she does not seem happy

[@theglocktopus8988]

If you do The Cache night heist mission, theres a dialogue where the Freelancer says they left quite an impression on the bank from their previous visit, making The Deposit loud very likely canon. And the Onyx Unit in Black Dusk loud is definitely not canon. Other than that, all the other missions don't have a definitive method which is "Canon" or not

[@blackice7050]

That doesn't make the Deposit loud a Cannon , if you do it stealth The Manager (if He or She is still alive) Would maximize the Security on the bank so there goes your theory and I refuse to believe that Black Dusk Stealth was a canon , as you see you have the choice of going stealth or loud which makes Loud is a canon

[@Dr_Grease]

@@blackice7050 Oh what is wearing the freelancer on epilogue on the elevator scene? Oh, its A ELITE HALCYON OPERATIVE SUIT

[@ReconDVN]

At Lakehouse, stealth is definelity the canon, bc in scientist briefing, it says "We didn't even knew that you hit the lab in Michigan"

[@blox2991]

3:25 update with new bd lock code, rose wanted to leave everything. she just wanted to have anormal life

[@blackice7050]

10 reasons why the Black Dusk should be loud canon 1. It shows that the freelancer Is more superior than any created weapon or Super Soldier 2. It makes more sense even if in the Epilogue The Freelancer says they knew I am here maybe Halcyon sent some operatives to close the elevator after The Freelancer killed the Previous ones 3. There is No (No Kill Bonus) so that means the freelancer fought their way in 4. It would fit more than stealth Black Dusk as if the freelance got sick of stealth and they wanted to blow this facility to the ground by going full loud 5. it saves more time 6. It fits more when you do Ironman Legend that if the ironman is cannon 7. The ??? and Kill house Nightmare refers to The Black Dusk and The Score which kinda makes the method was loud 8. Its a lot easier than stealth Black Dusk and gives the player the feeling that this the end of the Journey rather than the boring stealth Black Dusk 9. It was mixed mission so that mean both methods were cannon even tho loud should have been the cannon in this mission 10. It finally shows us what it is Project Onyx rather than finishing the game without knowing it or seeing what it is

[@blackice7050]

@@oilflanker Well that doesn't stop the Freelancer from going automatically to the elevator after the Loud is completed

[@tetraxis3011]

Good comment makes sense that the freelancer is sick of this and decides to go out in a blaze of glory

[@kingalex_3334]

most of your reasons are just opinions/headcanons

[@BoboW.I.P]

The reason why theres a no kill bonus, is because you blow the whole place up, also in the epilogue the freelancer says "they know we're here" wouldn't make any Sense on loud, they already knew phoenix was coming and they should've locked the elevator as soon as they got in, since it was the freelancer It would've been very effective

[@krzystajer5485]

so...ever heard of the theory where Rose faked her death? yeah that Falcon:Case study video,i know its just a theory but i like the thought that not everybody in Entry point dies,so let me cure my deppresion.

[@poitydidnot]

Technically since the FBI first discovered the freelancer in The deposit The blacksite, and the Financer are what i call full stealth. Its when anyone who was gotten to 2 bars of suspicion meter is killed and therefore no one being able to remember their face and the fbi not knowing who did what. For the Score though, i actually think that though in the game it IS loud and WE go in i dont think that the freelancer who did the stealth missions are the same as the ones who did the Score.

[@xx_gam3r_aress1ed_2oo5_xx3]

11: Wren was the pilot in the Blacksite.

[@toastitis9752]

3:07 HOLY SHIT

[@claiminghawk]

EP isn't the Roblox version of payday 2( despite the similarities), the only game that is heavily based on payday 2 is Notoriety by Brick man , in which the game has the same game mechanics as payday 2.

[@ctanimations8488]

Dedication happened AFTER lakehouse, but... In the lakehouse in loud, the phoenix operatives will try to kill you, which I don't really think they would do that to an operative of their own organization, so what happened probably is that before dedication, the freelancer was still with halcyon, but after they tried to kill him, the freelancer noticed that they SHOULD NOT be with halcyon, so they joined phoenix

[@Deimos_PeanutFlavour]

The Freelancer had no other choice, they were betrayed once before Dedication, then twice after it. Since Halcyon wanted them dead, they had to repay Jackdaw for saving them by joining Pheonix.

[@justanotherwalkingfurret]

Fun fact: notoriety is the payday 2 rip

[@earthkung1218]

Indeed

[@ritamorel5871]

But wait notoriety was created in 2010 and payday 1 in 2011

[@StampedMars]

@@ritamorel5871 maybe notoriety overlapped an old game?

[@lidller]

My opinion about the is stealth canon debate: Blacksite: Loud Financier: First half stealth then it goes loud when you knock out ryan Deposit: Loud Lakehouse: First half stealth but then steal cove arrives Withdrawal: Loud Scientist: Goes loud after freeing Rivera The SCRS: Loud Black Dusk: Loud

[@WantedFugitiveInAlgeria]

2:25 if you played black dusk rookie with aegis armour then your character probably survives

[@iAnonymous877]

That is pretty funny but in rookie you still die instantly to grenades

[@MykeGG]

Entry point isnt a copy of payday 2. Notoriety literally has same armor, weapons and heists

[@Cec451]

I still won't believe that the freelancer is dead.

[@byteland_]

I had the same experience of the last Misconception.

[@thedaranesianconfederation7221]

The wiki says that Rose and the FL are Deceased... which means they recently died... not that they are dead. I know this doesn't make sense but... The killhouse has real swat's with real people dying. We know this because the Loot bag in the vault isn't between quotation marks. The Freelancer died, this doesn't imply that he is dead. He also can interact with the real world. He collides with walls and can open a vault... INTERESTING

[@dungeondemonrbyt4354]

the kilhouse can be a dream, a afterlife, or maybe an alternate universe becaues its confirmed that the killhouse happened AFTER epilouge

[@tetraxis3011]

Im pretty sure freelancer is listed as MIA ínstead of deceased

[@thevoices1984]

The first thing i thought when i played entry point for the first time was 'Wow, this game is so much like Hitman' not 'Wow, this game is so much like Payday 2'

[@sebastiangabaldon4090]

I just realized… The Blacksite Hoxton Breakout (From Payday 2)

[@uiuelite]

2:30 even if the freelancer was alive or he go in hig security hospital the time he get healed and go to prison or he have to leave the unite state/canada/alaska and have to live on low profile for not get fond because he hus the 4 perssone the most wanted by the fbi and he cant live in state because you know he cant in canada whit the scrs incident and in alaska vecause he a part of state and the scientist incident so even he alive he still "death"

[@monkeyfootz]

Bro notoriety is roblox payday THEY HAVE SIMILAR MISSONS LIKE GOLDEN GRIN CASINO LIKE BRO

[@sasin2715]

I played all three games, entry point has some inspiration, i can see that, but notoriety is just a straight up scuffed copy, big bank, golden grin casino, mallcrasher, jewelry store that brick man confused with ukrainian job, shadow fucking raid, overkill weapon pack, the armor names, units, four stores, nightclub, art gallery, cloakers, dozers, you name it Surprised he didnt cram in captain winters yet

[@monkeyfootz]

@@sasin2715 I hate captain winters with a passion pal

[@sasin2715]

@@monkeyfootz explosives moment

[@lowkey2917]

@@sasin2715 notoriety did had the captain it was removed

[@johntory8330]

"Ep is roblox payday" Notoriety: thats the wrong game im the real roblox payday

[@javasiege]

It's an unofficial official pronunciation now.

[@lakesummitabelo8848]

For the 7th misconception, here's my theory. So basically, maybe the MC (Main Character) is just neutral. And he might not be supporting Halcyon nor Phoenix.

[@no-one6790]

Payday has better graphics and (mostly) more polished movements, but with the story and actual game mechanics, ep takes the cake.

[@cinderleaves3949]

In my opinion, every mission is canonically stealth except for the Score and Black Dusk. Its just my opinion and someone else could have a different opinion, and I don’t mind if its not true.

[@pablo-it3qh]

Its out yay!!!

[@MrFlubber]

3:19 didn't rose literally help create Phoenix? Not exactly loyal, I would say she is Phoenix

[@LUFT-WAFFE]

Actually they didn’t suspect that the freelancer was a traitor. They just did the same thing they did with jackdaw. Shot them in the back for their work.

[@sillykicker64]

The black box in the withdrawer, like srsly what is that?

[@GigaKerbal]

#7 in the lock they say they would take out the rest of roses crew to be safe.

[@victorius2975]

the sort of bad thing of the game is the huge predictability if you know how the mechanics work

[@fa_ic7415]

he didn't talk about how falcon killed rose

[@theglocktopus8988]

Yeah until I saw the lock codes, I thought Wren killed Rose

[@4420satori]

There's still a chance for stealth to be canon. Remember the ??? mission in Halloween Hitlist 2020? The mission takes place in the construction site, the same place with The Score second part. I think about the ??? mission is actually The Freelancer's hell, the SWATs in the mission are the SWATs that The Freelancer killed in The Score. The Score is the only mission that can only be done in loud. I think Cish want us to understand that The Score is the only mission that The Freelancer killed someone. This is just my theory so don't scold me if you don't have the same opinion. My theory can actually be wrong because The Freelancer did loud in the The Freelancer tutorial mission. (Sorry if I have bad grammar)

[@TheFakeMakotoYuki]

didn't kill anyone there tho

[@tetraxis3011]

Perhaps in the Score things actually got particularly brutal and that is why only the SWATs are present and not other kills madre by the Freelancer

[@Kaviboy55]

Pretty sure for the financier quiet is canon cause you have Ryan Ross

[@northstar1727]

Whoever thinks EP is a copy of pay day... You are not just the clown nor the entire circus BUT THE ENTIRE FREAKING ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY

[@sumrandomdude7234]

Yes EP have inspirations from pd2 Blacksite in my opinion takes inspiration from Hell's Island And Black Dusk? Look kinda like Henry's Rock And Idea of SCRS on a sky scrapper? I dunno man seems like diamond heist In my opinion notoriety is a rip-off

[@WhatIsThatThingDoing]

Ever thought about the alignment of Steel Cove, whether "good" in the scope of the plot, or "bad"?

[@tetraxis3011]

Steel Cove is a US goverment organization I Believe

[@AI_VIRUS101]

Notoriety

[@History_Nurd]

Roblox payday is not Entry Point because that one would be notoriety Why you ask? Well on EP you get disguises On PD2 you don't And in general, heists, weapon system, units, Entry point is not Roblox "rip off" payday. That one would be notoriety since they are basically the same thing, just that notoriety is even more buggy, with less customization, less perks, AND more unfair... But never the less... It's a good game.

[@O5-29]

Its called the freelance heists because you're freelancing

[@sillykicker64]

Oh i get it now

[@funnynamehere424]

I say Halcyon Hal-k-yon stop me

[@Jouks]

Notoriety is f a n g a m e Entry point is a more realistic game, and has a more in depth story-line

[@sasin2715]

Fan game and a straight up copy are two different words

[@Dr_Grease]

@@oilflanker More realistic? Ah yes, I love when i heal my partner that was hit by hundreds of bullets by yelling "Get the fuck up". I totally love when i put on a mask, I don't holster my guns and bring a fucking assault rifle and shotgun to a silent mission. I also love how when i walk behind a guard he seems to have eyes on his back and detects me when he is looking at the front. I love how i can run faster by damaging myself, I love how i can throw a body bag 3 meters away.

[@ianorr1388]

ep yters are def really good tho

[@desmawatibustami4749]

Lol

[@ianorr1388]

@@TheYessor yes

[@thefunnyzean]

irrelavant question but: how do you get such good shiny graphics?! I have mine at max, it lags, yea, but i dont have the same graphics as you and all the other roblox youtubers have!

[@bloxable9031]

It depends on the computer specifications

[@jacobliddiard8493]

You don’t die if you plant c 4 instead of bombs to see the boom you alive

[@theseeper422]

Apparently those who think EP is a roblox Payday have not heard of Notoriety, how TF is EP a roblox Payday, most of it's mechanics are far from that

[@blackbed5108]

rivera lives in scientist stealth right?

[@sinyo2010]

Dude EP IS DIFFERENT THAT PAYDAY NOTORIETY IS PAYDAY

[@Toasted_Failure]

I haven't played this game yet I am more interested on the cool lore

[@jhayaniv]

Best difference between between entry point and payday 2 is no slang language

[@saudgame_ytnice1864]

How knock out in Xbox?

[@vavys1429]

unof can u do financier legend loud no kills? If u cant then no need

[@sparrowEP]

Unof: how about no armor?

[@CaptainPlaythrough]

HOLY CRAP I JUST REALIZED YOU CAN GET AN EMPTY SERVER ON THE ROBLOX WIKI

[@deadperson6227]

1. Correct, but all grips are personal preference. 1.5 Angled on mm20 2. Yes 3. What about Black Dusk and Epilogue 4. Yeah, in the military you learn after awhile that MIA just means Killed in Action, but we can't find the body (90% of the time) 5. Correct, Not going to name anyone, but there are some popular ytubers that are disgustingly bad at the game. 6. Stop saying their alive dipshits. 7. Yes 8. Yes 9. Ok 10. Payday sucks.

[@PoisonIvory088]

Yes thx unof!!!

[@EarthItself]

Epic challenge: Do ironman black dusk stealth without walking, moving, crouching, sprinting, breathing, eating, drinking, or existing in under 20 seconds without knocking out any guards and without entering half the map. No armor and only the up9 with no attachments. I know you can do it because you are the best player ever!

[@catalinasalcedo1444]

Is that even possible-

[@EarthItself]

@@catalinasalcedo1444 That's the joke. In the video he said that he couldn't do impossible or extremely hard challenges, so I commented an impossible challenge for him.

[@catalinasalcedo1444]

@@EarthItself Ik, my comment was a joke too. Seems like we got stuck on April fools 🖐🤣

[@skulldozer7722]

i play payday 2 and ep and there are two things that makes ep easier. Lack of bulldozers and cloakers

[@Dr_Grease]

Both easily to avoid

[@dungeondemonrbyt4354]

that is in loud, but ep stealth is harder than notoriety and pd2 since its involves disguises and cameras and stuff

[@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221]

cloakers my worst nightmarer

[@fuze7885]

​@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 ok but like payday 2, and by extension notoriety, have cameras as well the rest of your points are valid though but only against notoriety, since im able to stealth the toughest stealth heist in notoriety on the highest difficulty but have only been able to do super easy stealth heists in pd2 on the highest diff. and ive only been able to barely complete the deposit on legend once in ep

[@dreamingsus9996]

How to Unofficial: Unofficial.

[@wolfzard4617]

Just a question, is your intro just you snoring?

[@catalinasalcedo1444]

You forgot one: N.11: People thinking Rivera was a man, not a women I SWEAR- I thought she was men until I saw dialogues and realized they called her a she and I was like: 🤡👊 (For those that might say that by the hair it was obvious, I thought that hair was for men too-)

[@grandiloqentc6507]

weab would be proud

[@antek3526]

Looking for a payday 2 roblox game? Try notoriety

[@blackice7050]

Notoriety Sucks It will never be better than EP

[@antek3526]

@@blackice7050 bruh i never said ep sucks:(. And i like notoriety

[@FNG143]

Ep is not payday noterie is

[@khalifabinhendi6107]

Calling EP a Payday 2 Ripoff just shows how ignorant they are of EP and Payday. Payday is a walking shitpost of a bank robbing simulator, while EP takes a more serious approach to it. Also, we cannot wear custom masks in EP and we are quite limited in terms of melee options in EP, compared to Payday where we can use a Comically Large Spoon.

[@NO-jk3fp]

Yes